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Alignment Issues After Drop

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#1 ·
Title says it all. I've had 3 alignments done since my Eibach drop, one of which was done at a shop that says "lowered vehicles are our specialty". All 3 alignments were done on state of the art Hunter Hawkeye alignment machines.

The first two alignments my steering wheel was turned to the right. Now it's turned to the left.

I'm not well versed in this subject, so I'll try to describe it in layman's terms. Throughout all 3 alignments the steering wheel has felt disconnected from the wheels. I feel like there is some wandering in the wheels before the steering wheel moves. Let's say the wheels move 20% from a groove in the road. The first 15% of that movement the steering wheel stays stationary. The steering feels very loose. This would make sense if I had not had an alignment, but I've had 3, all aligning within factory spec. It's only the steering wheel not centered. So how can it be loose if it's aligned with only the steering wheel being off?

The best way to sum up what it seems like is this: Right when I get the car back it feels good, tight. But after a little driving it gets looser and looser. It's as if they didn't tighten bolts enough and the settings gradually fall out of spec. I could see this happening with alignment, 1 shop. But 2 shops and 3 alignments??

My last hope is to go to the dealer and instruct them not to give it back to me until it's perfect.

Any help is appreciated. This is driving me mad! I'm a bit OCD so it's really ruining my driving experience.
 
#2 ·
Wow, now that is weird. When you brought it back the 2nd & 3rd time, did the shop say the alignment really was off?
 
#3 ·
Alignments are tricky. They do give you a few degrees of steering wheel travel for it to be within spec. In other words it can be off a hair to the left or right and still be ok. That's not ok with me and I never give customer cars back until the steering wheel is dead nuts perfect, because I'm OCD like you for that kinda shit. That said, the shops could also be leaning on one side to get the number to be in spec just for a printout. Unless you've seen the jeep on the alignment rack all within spec. It also all depends on how they lock the steering wheel in place. Some shops just chuck the lock up there and don't actually sit in there while doing so to make sure. I'd take it back and watch them do it.


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#4 ·
I have the same kit and got it aligned with no issues, but my dads jeep had that same light steering feeling you mentioned after his Bwoody kit but they finally got it right.
Maybe that shop is Poo?
 
#5 ·
Well I went back and they got the steering wheel straight, although it still feels loose. I've gotten some solid advice from a few forums, but the problem remains: Finding a shop with a tech who knows how to get it correct, and will take the time to do it.
 
#6 ·
Find a new shop. I had my jeep aligned twice a year at my local Firestone tire shop without any problems.
 
#7 ·
Akon...I am having the same issues...running Road Magnet Aggressives...not to mention the severe camber issue in the front...I bought the BWoody arms for the rear and it's perfect...I think I need to swap springs and get the Mid-Level drop...
 
#8 ·
I just ordered from ******** the aggressive drop 1.8/2.8 curious is there any issues with the front camber and how do we address this. Haven't read any forums mentioning front end issues besides the steering wheel having pulls to the right. Let alone my WK2 does this since I've had it ( October ). It's more like a pull with groves on the high way.
 
#9 ·
Yes...the front wheels almost look tucked. Some people like this look, but I personally do not. But I was too impatient to wait for the Mid-Level springs (they were about 2 months out when I got my Jeep at the end of October) and now I feel like I've put too much in to the rear with aggressive springs to turn back. I've had multiple people ask me if my car was on air bags...LOL ! I've spoken with Chad @ Black Ops and he's told me that have front control arms to fix the camber issue in the works but no date as of yet...I will be buying those as soon as they are available !
 
#10 ·
The life of a vehicle with so little time out .. Not sure when mines will ship out , at this point I could careless about the camber my OEM tires are shot :weary::joy::joy: 8 K miles in less than 3 months
 
#11 ·
The life of a vehicle with so little time out .. Not sure when mines will ship out , at this point I could careless about the camber my OEM tires are shot :weary::joy::joy: 8 K miles in less than 3 months
 
#12 ·
a-kon... you ever get this sorted out? Though a WK1, mine is doing the exact same thing. New LCAs, multiple alignments by different shops but still feels loose. It is so bad at times I am afraid to go over 80 around a slight turn... just no confidence in steering at speed. I can feel it over speed bumps if I go slow and off angle a bit. Also, when braking, sometimes I get a small sudden pull to the left or right at lower speeds.

Not lowered and everything is stock except for the Bwoody Endlinks (did it before I put them on).

I've had it up on 4 jack stands and checked bushings front and back including the pan bar, rear upper/lower control arms, tie rods, ball joints and everything along the steering path. It is driving me crazy... must be finally time to sell and buy a scooter and funny looking helmet.
 
#13 ·
I have had three alignments when my Jeep was stock to straighten up the camber. Getting rid of the summer tire Pirelli run flats really helped too. I have not had it aligned since the Eibach drop a month or so ago but that is being done tomorrow. I may or may not need or go for adjustable ball joints and rear control arms. I would make sure the tie rod ends are good. I've already had an inner tie rod end wear out and a crappy end link go. Make sure your end links are on tight by using an air gun and holding in place with a wrench and not just use an air gun. Make sure ball joints and bushings are good. My 15 came with a chuckle noise in the front end brand new and I've been eliminating the noise sources ever since. Woohoo! I love this Jeep addiction!
 
#14 ·
My 2012 camber setting stock were -1.60 front and rear and the lower i could get them was -0.60 and never had any inner tire wear. All lowering springs have there own built in -camber and that makes it hard to even get it back to stock setting so you may have to get the aftermarket A arms to lower the camber. IMO 4 get the lowering springs.
 
#15 ·
I love the Eibach springs. No complaints or issues. It has eliminated much of the side to side body roll. Today I drove two hours with a total of 5 adults in it (first time for that) and I didn't notice any ride difference or noticeable ride height difference. I suppose I could have taken a picture which would have been 4 people not 5. Very comfortable. One of the best mods for the buck I've done. With the more powerful motor there was no noticeable get up and go so it was hard to tell there was a Jeepful except for all the talking. Only complaint was from my mother in the back about the exhaust level. My straight laced, well behaved, non wild, non crazy, McMaster University graduating 22 year old daughter who also sat in the back liked the exhaust sound...lol.
 
#20 ·
Thanks for the numbers...I got one of the first Eibach kits from Tire Rack and it is STILL sitting in my garage in the box. Hopefully I can get it on there this weekend!

Did you do it yourself or take it somewhere? I've done plenty of suspension work (mostly solid axle stuff), but the front still scares me a bit...the rear looks like cake.
 
#21 ·
I have a full time mechanic and he did it. Didn't take him long. Only fun issue he had was I think the front drive axle came out on the driver's side and took some persuasion to get it back together so be aware of that. One of our fellow members had the same challenge. I drove it a couple of weeks before getting it aligned and it drove fine but it's good that I got the alignment done as my tires are new.
 
#25 ·
Doing the springs is an all day job for the average garage mechanic. It took me probably about 8 hours? I'm sure someone has finished it in two hours and will tell me I'm an idiot though. #theinternet

Check out the writeup, its not a bad job if you've done suspension work before. Just bolts and nuts ;)

Chuck
 
#26 · (Edited)
Yea, the rear was cake and only took me a 1-2 hours. Hardest part was getting the endlink nut off as it kept spinning with my impact, but I was finally able to hold the backside with vice grips and zip it off. I'll probably tackle the front this week. Any trouble getting the struts out? Several people said it was physically impossible for the strut to clear the axle shaft, but I find that hard to believe.