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Well its been awhile since I installed my Eibachs, and I will say it does look better than stock. I think its a must for any SRT8GC owner. Anyways, I wish my front sat a touch lower and the back about and 1.5" lower. I had 4 guys and the whole trunk full of luggage and the thing looked slammed I loved it. I already have a bagged truck and dont ever want to go that route again. I dont mind the ride right now, however when I hit a bump my passengers nearly s*** themselves. Does anybody besides RM/BWOODY and Eibach make a kit? I think a 2/2.5 or maybe even 2/3 would look sick if even possible with the AWD system and wheel wells.
 

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No one makes anything. The problem is there isn't enough travel in the rear, so even if you tried to do that, it probably wouldn't work. I did see one Jeep on air a long time ago that sat lower that the springs, but you said you don't want to go that route again. There was another guy who cut his stock springs, so it say a little lower, but I imagine it rode like hell. So you might be outta luck.
 

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BC coilovers should be coming out in a couple months. The guy testing them has been riding around with the wheel well heights at 30" in the front and 30 3/4" in the rear. He's been testing different set-ups for over a year and claims to have only had any contact issues with a really big pot hole.
 

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I agree, I had lowered trucks before even lower than the Bwoody's and Eibachs....Excellent lowering springs seem to be available for the Ford's and Chevy's but not for our ride. The Bwoody's I had rode like hell and I got them off within less than a week of driving them, they had a very uncomfortable ride..you should not need QA1's to supplement for poor lowering springs, cheaper shocks should still give a great ride! I am not interested in the Eibach's either because there is a strong likelihood that the problem will remain. I will keep my ride stock until a manufacturer makes a decent spring set or coilover set for our ride...I was actually thinking of calling a few of the top spring manufacturers and having them make me a custom well specked out set using our stock spring as a blueprint and that will probably be route I will go if nothing else better comes along.
 

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I have zero complaints about the ride quality of the Eibachs (and I was nervous about this before the install). When compared side by side, my SRT looks considerably lower than a stock one, but on its own there is still enough wheel well space to make one question if it's lowered..... The truck looks low from all angles, except when you stare at the wells sometimes. I'm hoping my slightly taller 22s will fill the wells enough to give me even more of a lowered look..... :)
 

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With my bwoody setup I'd say it was near the limit of dropping it with springs. I think it looked great, rode awesome, and worked very well for me.


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Lowering beyond the 1" that the Eibach/RM/BWoody front springs give you is treading on thin ice for two reasons:

1) Shock tower contact with the upper control arms. There was one post about someone going below 1" with COs and there were contact problems with the stock A-arms. I don't remember how much more that 1" it was lowered, but it tells you that clearances are approaching the limit. Those of us with the JBA upper control arms cannot go below 1" because the A-arm is longer and will make contact sooner than the stocker.

2) Ball joint angulation is unfavorable at stock ride height and gets worse with lowering. Worse case scenario with lowering beyond 1" is binding of the BJ, which is guaranteed to make a loud snapping sound followed by your front end collapsing. More likely is greatly accelerated BJ wear.

What is really needed is a drop spindle, but no one is going to make that for such a limited market. I'm not saying you should not go lower than 1", but it is not clear how much more you can go with out problems.
 

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^ This guy knows his stuff.

With my JBA control arms with the 1" front drop with bwoodys I had slight contact issues under extreme conditions. This was while I was riding on the front bump stops. I trimmed them for a better ride, but that'd only make contact easier to come by. I have a thread somewhere detailing it all.

But yeah, it's pretty much at its limits with the current springs.

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BC Coilovers are being produced as we speak. If you need info on who is going to be selling them, you can PM me and I can give you any info that you may need. Thanks!

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Spot on re the drop spindles. They are definitely a solution because you maintain your factory suspension geometry, but, unfortunately i dont see anyone making them in the future. I watch this thread with interest. I too am waiting for these anticipated Coilovers.
 

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If you guys are referring to the B Ops coil overs I was also looking at those. I was curious as to why they have the price crossed out and now they're on back order. I have to the BWoodys and my front end rides like dog crap and bounces a lot. I also need a good fix. They have pics also, what a tease :)


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I found some new lowering springs on Moderen Muscle Web site.. Its called H&R they drop the front 1.3 n rear 1.2... Ima call the tom n see if it will surely fit the jeep srt8..if soo ill buy em in a heart beat.
 

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I found some new lowering springs on Moderen Muscle Web site.. Its called H&R they drop the front 1.3 n rear 1.2... Ima call the tom n see if it will surely fit the jeep srt8..if soo ill buy em in a heart beat.

If these H & R springs have been thoroughly tested, that suggests the maximum that a stock SRT8 can be lowered is 1.3" in the front. Beyond that, shock tower interference will occur. Again, this is providing it has been properly tested.

When I was searching out an adjustable ball joint for the SRT8 to correct the camber, I found the Eibach 5.23410k adjustable ball joint listed for the standard WK. When I called them, they stated that they did not know if it fit the SRT8 because it had not been tested. So I decided to take a chance and installed them. I found that these ball joints interfere with the shock towers and are inappropriate for the lowered SRT8. Shortly thereafter, they listed them for the SRT8. I called them on it and they responded by telling me that they had been thoroughly tested. So much for thorough testing. I told them that these things do not work for lowered Cherokees. They refused to refund my money and instead offered to make me thicker bumpstop. Now, you no longer find them listed for the SRT8 on the website.

Still, the ball joint geometry concerns me greatly. The JBA control arms do correct the angulation of the BJ.
 

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I have alot of history in the air ride and lowering game, Call up max biomax customs in cali. he can make spindles
Thanks. Might be a solution, but I wonder how much it will cost.
 

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If these H & R springs have been thoroughly tested, that suggests the maximum that a stock SRT8 can be lowered is 1.3" in the front. Beyond that, shock tower interference will occur. Again, this is providing it has been properly tested.

When I was searching out an adjustable ball joint for the SRT8 to correct the camber, I found the Eibach 5.23410k adjustable ball joint listed for the standard WK. When I called them, they stated that they did not know if it fit the SRT8 because it had not been tested. So I decided to take a chance and installed them. I found that these ball joints interfere with the shock towers and are inappropriate for the lowered SRT8. Shortly thereafter, they listed them for the SRT8. I called them on it and they responded by telling me that they had been thoroughly tested. So much for thorough testing. I told them that these things do not work for lowered Cherokees. They refused to refund my money and instead offered to make me thicker bumpstop. Now, you no longer find them listed for the SRT8 on the website.

Still, the ball joint geometry concerns me greatly. The JBA control arms do correct the angulation of the BJ.
So they can be installed without having to do anything else?
 

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I don't think I would drop the jeep that low in the front. Another 0.3" lower (~5/16") will be pushing it to the limits for sure. I wouldn't want to do it with the stock control arms, and the JBA arms already can hit at a 1" drop. Plus, there won't be much travel left in the shock. You'll need to trim the front bump stops to even have it drop the full 1.3" in front. After trimming there will be barely anything left for travel and bump stop protection.


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if somebody make short shocks for the rears of these and shorter struts along with a shorter steering knuckle set thats all we would need...they could even rectorate the alignment into the new knuckle castings so we wouldn't need any special upper arms... i have eibachs and would also like to go lower, personally i don't like how the springs are tightly wound at the tops just to allow for lowering so the springs won't fall out when suspension unwinds, i find thats what hurst the ride vs OEM design.... my eibachs and oem springs were the same static length, the lowering comes from the tightly wound coils
 

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