camshaft selection

[mikeT]

he blew up one of my buddies jeep's on purpose, and was sued by my freind, and lost....search KRC on here you will even see a copy of the final judgement.

[Shep]

I apoligize for bringing that name up I should have done a search first. most forums will not let you search short words or at least I have not figured out how to.

[Power Ported Performance]

Originally Posted by Shep

So you are saying that I have to get the cam , figure out the lift, rocker ratio etc. so I can set the springs up ? I understand keeping ramp profiles a secret but lift is lift and is easily measured. To me having general specs for my knowledge will most likely make the decision as to whether I try the pro series or not.

As mentioned before I am very competent with engine and head work. Our 2.0l runs nearly twice the rpm of a stock hemi 11,400-11,600 rpms and makes over 10hp per c.i.

Having said that I have no problem buying springs, locaters ,etc from you if you sell them seperately with a cam purchase.

We release all of our specs now, but the pro-series are not common knowledge. the owner of the cam gets the specs, but we ask that they not release the specs to anyone else.

Originally Posted by maansy

but dont the road & comp 260 cams make almost the same power in low end and also in general HP? correct me if i am wrong plz

and what doesThe comp cams are very lazy with very soft lobes mean?
sorry for my lack of knowladge of cams terms

The comp 260 and the Road Warrior have nothing in common.
Comp 260: 208/212 522/525 113LSA
Road Warrior: 214/222 565/547 114LSA with 3 degrees of advance

Soft lobes means that the valves are opening and closing slowly as opposed to our cams opening the valve quickly to get as much air as possible into the combustion chamber.

Originally Posted by mikeT

I still think the idle has to be bumped up a little even with the 260 or road warrior (correct me if I'm wrong andy)

You can run a stock idle with the Road Warrior. Here is a road warrior in a 5.7 with no tuning and a stock idle.
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/2...PPP_122826.htm

This one is the 5.7 Custom
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/P...der_147915.htm

426 Race


5.7 Custom


426 Race Pro Series

[srt8suv]

I know a friend running PPP Race worrier, and it idled fine for that big cam.. in my opinion, i would eitehr go for Race or Track.. to justify the build, otherwise why should i spend all of that money for a near to stock cam!

[maansy]

Originally Posted by Power Ported Performance

.... The comp 260 and the Road Warrior have nothing in common.
Comp 260: 208/212 522/525 113LSA
Road Warrior: 214/222 565/547 114LSA with 3 degrees of advance

Soft lobes means that the valves are opening and closing slowly as opposed to our cams opening the valve quickly to get as much air as possible into the combustion chamber.



You can run a stock idle with the Road Warrior.

can you explain what is the benifit of 3 degrees of advance?

so to clarify things, no need for tune/rais idle with Road Worrior? and no code issue with that?

also, do you have a video of the Road Warrior Cam on stock jeep 6.1?
thanx

[Shep]

Wow maanzy you must be a thread killer

Still waiting to hear how the track compares to the track pro. Is it more aggressive than the race ?

Lucky for me I found out that Andy ( got stroked ) is less than 2 hrs from me.

[Power Ported Performance]

Originally Posted by Shep

Wow maanzy you must be a thread killer

Still waiting to hear how the track compares to the track pro. Is it more aggressive than the race ?

Lucky for me I found out that Andy ( got stroked ) is less than 2 hrs from me.

Andy (gotstroke) is not the same Andy as myself. We are in Cincinnati, Oh.

The Road Warrior does not require a tune, but it is highly recomended. There are no cel's with the road warrior.

You guys are asking questions that could be answered 100 different ways. First, I need you to define "more aggressive".

The idle of the track pro is more aggressive.
The lobes are more aggressive.
The ramp rates are more aggressive.
The lift is more aggressive.

None of that means its going to make more power, but it might. We have never dynoed 1 car with both of those cams, so I cant answer that question. The pro series cams are not for customers who are concerned with rough idles, misfire codes, and custom tuning requirements. If you want to race at the track every weekend and are fine spending money on a custom tune, the pro-series are for you. If you just want more power for every day driving, the standard cams are for you.

[Shep]

Originally Posted by Power Ported Performance

Andy (gotstroke) is not the same Andy as myself. We are in Cincinnati, Oh.

The Road Warrior does not require a tune, but it is highly recomended. There are no cel's with the road warrior.

You guys are asking questions that could be answered 100 different ways. First, I need you to define "more aggressive".

The idle of the track pro is more aggressive.
The lobes are more aggressive.
The ramp rates are more aggressive.
The lift is more aggressive.

None of that means its going to make more power, but it might. We have never dynoed 1 car with both of those cams, so I cant answer that question. The pro series cams are not for customers who are concerned with rough idles, misfire codes, and custom tuning requirements. If you want to race at the track every weekend and are fine spending money on a custom tune, the pro-series are for you. If you just want more power for every day driving, the standard cams are for you.

Well this was a thread I started so please do not group me with worrying about if a dealer is going to catch my idle. I don't care. I took a 08 with 60 miles on it and ripped it apart. I expect to not have a warranty and am ok with misfire codes and a custom tune. I thought that was a given. With that being said Maansy please dont hijack my thread

I aso am aware that got stroked is a different Andy that is why I put his screen name beside it

The track pro-series has the upper rpm power of a race warrior and the low rpm grunt of a standard track warrior

I do have to ask if the two cams hever never been tested on the same vehicle how can this statement be made? Just curious please do not take it as a jab.

First, I need you to define "more aggressive".

The idle of the track pro is more aggressive.
The lobes are more aggressive.
The ramp rates are more aggressive.
The lift is more aggressive.

yes that is basically what I am asking. I thought we were limited with piston to valve clearance. Again with specs it would be much easier to get a feel for how much more but it's your rule so we have to judge by other means which is why I/we need to ask more questions. Let me ask it this way. On a jeep application does it fall between the track and race or does the pro series take off after the race? if you would rather take this question up on pm please kindly let me know.

[maansy]

ma bad Shep
its your cake, cut it however you want in my friend

[mikeT]

I'll get a video of my truck with the borla-s, stage 2 ppp heads, and race warrior cam up for you soon shep!..........with these mods, it shaved around .5 off my 1/4 et.....next I may upgrade the torque converter so it launches a little harder. If you are mainly going to run your truck on the street go with the track warrior because the truck will be faster 0-60....but the race will edge it out in the higher rpm, thus giving you a slighty better 1/4 mile. The race has more lope at idle, and requires a slightly higher idle setting than the track warrior........