Considering a loaded 2013 can be had at around $60k if you shop hard I'd offer them $55k and hope to get it for around $57k. Otherwise just wait. When the 2014s hit dealers should be a lot more willing to deal. Some are holding firm because the 2012 and 2013 are the same.
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I don't see that happening. Your best bet is to find a lightly used (1000-2000 miles or less) and buy that. No sales tax either. If you want deals like what you mentioned you'll probably have to wait for the 2014s to drop. The big improvements should put the '12-13 within range.
Also, given how short the 2013 model year is and when the 2014 starts production, there is a good chance a few brand new 2012's will be remaining.
Regardless I'd love to see someone get a new loaded 2012 for $55k OTD.
Technically, the "end of the year" has already come and gone. Car model years start at August/September, so the time to strike would be around then. Dealers want to get rid of '12s now that '13s are coming. Granted, they usually have rebates and incentives at this time of the year to get people to buy for the holidays. I know I'D love a $60k Jeep for Christmas
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