Been reading the kill threads around here and havn't seen anyone talking about EVOs. Has anyone ran any? What was the turn out?

Not an Evo but a newer WRX STI on the highway from 70-120. Put 3-4 cars on him twice when I had a DUB AIR CAI (POS) and T-stat only.

Also ran a friends WRX with larger turbo, exhaust, intake, tune (supposedly 295awhp) and destroyed him by 5-6 cars from 0-100 and 10+ from a 15 roll to 100.

Got smoked from a stoplight by a blue one (400awhp)...

Then I beat a Cams,Intake, CAI EVO from a 55 roll to 150ish... (he should have tried me from a stop if he wanted to win but everyone thinks Z28s are turds for some reason).

Our bad boyz will beat an evo and a wrx sti stock from zero to 100 ?

Our bad boyz will beat an evo and a wrx sti stock from zero to 100 ?

yes those cars have no torque was eatn up a sti on the high with an exhaust on his ride fun times

lol.. ok.. any cars I should look out for that we cant beat off the line to about 60 mph? Lotta stop lights here in chicago, and I dont mind getting on the dirty right side of everyone to beat them for pole position :)

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(Here in Chicago the two X lanes get filled up big time, but if you travel down on the right most side, its either a turning lane (NOT MARKED TURN ONLY) or a quickly merging lane with the other right lane. So in my Viper I always go in the J lane (Short for Jon :) ) because with a 10 sec car, im not to worriedabout whats in the other lane :) But the jeep srt8 I am curious about, will I beat everything off the line to 60 too? (except say.. my car, which I will test with my gf shortly)

Thanks!

Jon

I would say unless there is a 911 Turbo you are pretty safe.

Next to impossible to beat a Jeep off the line on the street, regardless of weather. Automatic + AWD + big torquey engine + rather short gearing = Killer Launch everytime.

hmmmm.. even with Drag Radials on my 640rwhp Viper? hmmm.. might have to try that.. I thought I could beat it, but maybe not.... I'll try it with my gf driving the srt8.. Viper isnt her cup of tea. Plus the srt8 jeep I pretty much got for her anyways, so she needs to learn how to use all its power :)

911 Turbo will beat it an srt8? right from the get go ? or only after like 40+ mph, due to it needing to build boost.

hmmmm.. even with Drag Radials on my 640rwhp Viper? hmmm.. might have to try that.. I thought I could beat it, but maybe not.... I'll try it with my gf driving the srt8.. Viper isnt her cup of tea. Plus the srt8 jeep I pretty much got for her anyways, so she needs to learn how to use all its power :)

911 Turbo will beat it an srt8? right from the get go ? or only after like 40+ mph, due to it needing to build boost.

Unless you're heating the DRs up on the street and nail a perfect launch I bet the Jeep stays with you until the top of 2nd gear (in jeep). If the roads are anything less than in perfect condition the Jeep is going to win at least to that speed.
911 will pull it from the line, manual (with driver mod) or auto.

hmmmm.. even with Drag Radials on my 640rwhp Viper? hmmm.. might have to try that.. I thought I could beat it, but maybe not.... I'll try it with my gf driving the srt8.. Viper isnt her cup of tea. Plus the srt8 jeep I pretty much got for her anyways, so she needs to learn how to use all its power :)

911 Turbo will beat it an srt8? right from the get go ? or only after like 40+ mph, due to it needing to build boost.

The newest 911 Turbo's will destroy it. They are also all wheel drive.

My buddy has an EVO MR and swears he will smoke me...We'll have to see one day. I think from a roll it'll be even but from a dig I should take him.

They can crack high 12s and run low 13s with ~103mph traps bone stock... an evo would probably be a good matchup with the SRT-8 having the nod.

I owned 2 Evo 9's in the past year...if they are stock (rare) then a stock Jeep will beat it. All a 9 needs is $1300 in mods (exhaust, boost controller, tune) and they are running 12.2-12.3 @ 113 or so. The only problem is that on the street there aren't many that are willing to give a hard launch so it should be close.

An Evo 8 needs the above mentioned mods as well as cams, and possibly a different hotside on the turbo (depending on year) and then they are close to a 9, but most will still be edged slightly by the 9.

All 911 turbos are all wheel drive for as long as I can remember (going back to early 90s).. so no biggy that the new one is too. I expected it was. I just figure they gotta be pigs off the line trying to get the power up from the turbos, so by the time you hit 45 or so, you should have jumped them hard, but then they reeled you in and their mph is way faster at that point they blow past you. But again its just a thought.


Oh and on the DR front, its not really hard to warm up DRs in a viper, you have enough torque to spin them, so you just heat 'em up on a side street, and your good to go. Their is definitely a discernable difference between drag radials and even the amazing ps2s on the street. I personally love driving around with my DRs now.. when initially they scared the Sheet outta me the first time I got up to high way speeds with them. Now I dont even notice the "swagger" :)

Jon

All 911 turbos are all wheel drive for as long as I can remember (going back to early 90s).. so no biggy that the new one is too. I expected it was. I just figure they gotta be pigs off the line trying to get the power up from the turbos, so by the time you hit 45 or so, you should have jumped them hard, but then they reeled you in and their mph is way faster at that point they blow past you. But again its just a thought.


Oh and on the DR front, its not really hard to warm up DRs in a viper, you have enough torque to spin them, so you just heat 'em up on a side street, and your good to go. Their is definitely a discernable difference between drag radials and even the amazing ps2s on the street. I personally love driving around with my DRs now.. when initially they scared the Sheet outta me the first time I got up to high way speeds with them. Now I dont even notice the "swagger" :)

Jon

I'm not sure you should notice anything on the highway except possibly during an emergency lane change. What psi do you run on the street?
I'm guessing Paxton with 640rw?

All 911 turbos are all wheel drive for as long as I can remember (going back to early 90s).. so no biggy that the new one is too.

Jon

I was not saying that it is a biggy, I am only saying the new ones are insanly fast and will walk away from our jeeps like we are tied to a light post. Even from a dig. I have never raced an older one, only the newest one so that is the only one I have any experience with. Hence "the newer ones" comment.

I win evo and subaru sti IN 1/8 mile race

Search U-tube (something like GC SRT8 vs 911 Turbo) if you want to see a brand new 911 have a GC for lunch from a dig. I wanna Porche when I grow up.

Search U-tube (something like GC SRT8 vs 911 Turbo) if you want to see a brand new 911 have a GC for lunch from a dig. I wanna Porche when I grow up.

Unfortunately I have seen it first hand and still see it all the time. My brother recently bought one an automatic 07 and he screws with me the same way I would screw with a mustang GT. It does not matter what speed we start from he leaves me like he was shot out of a cannon. From a dig by the time I hit 100 he is disappearing over the horizon. If I could justify spending over 100k on a car I would buy one today.

Yup this is pretty much how it looks when my brother and I race. Insane isnt it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWQGq9F61E4&feature=related

yes those cars have no torque was eatn up a sti on the high with an exhaust on his ride fun times

ha you say they have no torque like you are talking about a honda or something.. the new EVOs have 300 ft-lb and the old ones had like 280, and thats on a car that weighs at least 1000lbs less than you guys. A stock EVO 9 can cut low 60's just like you guys and can run 1/4 times just like you guys.

I'm not sure you should notice anything on the highway except possibly during an emergency lane change. What psi do you run on the street?
I'm guessing Paxton with 640rw?



Get on I-90/94 in Chicago, you have to do a min of 80 mph to keep with the flow of traffic in a 55 mph zone. So its merge quickly, or get run over, so yes, rapid lane changes are very common on these highways. Not really emergency ones, but rapid, and I am an agressive driver to boot, so I like weaving in and outta traffic. The first time I did it with the BFGs it scared me, I have since learned their soft side walls, and have no problem with them.

And yes, paxton, stock boost 7-8 lbs. (But now after reading again, you probably are asking about the Tires. 34 LBS, so I can keep the side walls stiff. Per the recommendations of Jon B @ Parts Rack.. the formost in Viper world for this stuff.

She is coming back from Woodhouse with a few power adders though :) so that number has changed, just dont know what it is yet.

Jon

PS. thanks for the video, case proven.. wow... that was a killing. Like I said, love to see what my Vip will do on DRs against my srt8. I'll find out shortly :)

Have you gone to a drag strip since you put the DRs on and what psi (tires again) do you run for the track?

ha you say they have no torque like you are talking about a honda or something.. the new EVOs have 300 ft-lb and the old ones had like 280, and thats on a car that weighs at least 1000lbs less than you guys. A stock EVO 9 can cut low 60's just like you guys and can run 1/4 times just like you guys.

yeah with a brutal launch and perfect shifting

ive killed a handful of STIs from a dig and from a roll, pulled on my friends evo9 (lightly modded) from a roll, and hung dead even with an evo 9 MR that must've been more than lightly modded from a roll

Have you gone to a drag strip since you put the DRs on and what psi (tires again) do you run for the track?

Went to DR strip 2 times with them. 18 to 20 lbs for the track. 345/30/18s you dont want to sag too much with really low pressure, due to the huge real estate your trying to get a flat patch on. (Dont want it to dome/wrinkle up towards the rim in the center.)

Jon

I've posted numerous times about my races with my cousins modded STI. With all of my mods, I pulled a 12.4 in the 1/4 (spinning the tires) against his 13.00 at the track. On the ride home we did a few pulls. From 45-115 I had him by two cars. From 60-145 we were dead even. He had a TBE, Custom Tune, Up-pipe. He just bought an EVO 8. The Evo has a TBE, Cams and Cam gears, an intake and a crappy flash. No tune yet. We are dead even from certain speeds. Sometimes I edge ahead, sometimes he edges ahead. I know he cant run a 12.2-12.4 at the track. I find it hard to believe that people are putting 10+ cars on 300 whp wrx's. His STI barely had 300whp and i had a tough time beating him.
It all depends what speed you start at, as different speeds = different power bands.

I find it hard to believe that people are putting 10+ cars on 300 whp wrx's. His STI barely had 300whp and i had a tough time beating him.
It all depends what speed you start at, as different speeds = different power bands.

I am sure that when and if this happens it is due to a crappy driver in the other car. We all know that just because a car has the ability it does not mean the driver does. Especially on cars with manual tranny's.

I've posted numerous times about my races with my cousins modded STI. With all of my mods, I pulled a 12.4 in the 1/4 (spinning the tires) against his 13.00 at the track. On the ride home we did a few pulls. From 45-115 I had him by two cars. From 60-145 we were dead even. He had a TBE, Custom Tune, Up-pipe. He just bought an EVO 8. The Evo has a TBE, Cams and Cam gears, an intake and a crappy flash. No tune yet. We are dead even from certain speeds. Sometimes I edge ahead, sometimes he edges ahead. I know he cant run a 12.2-12.4 at the track. I find it hard to believe that people are putting 10+ cars on 300 whp wrx's. His STI barely had 300whp and i had a tough time beating him.
It all depends what speed you start at, as different speeds = different power bands.

So did my boy with the 295awhp wrx. I put buslengths on him from a 15 roll which means I'm in first gear ready to rock and his ass can't built **** for boost. It was a raping.
He fared better (5-6 cars) from a dig but the funny thing was I pulled him harder in 3-4th gear than in the first 2.

A friend of mine I work with has an Evo 8 with a reflashed ecu and some other bolt-ons, We have raced at the track several times now and I spank him every time, I think the best he runs is 13.4-13.3 my stock jeep ran 13.0 uncorrected, I have not been to the track with the new Bwoody set up yet, and my friend broke the crank in his Evo.

broke a crank or a connecting rod?! you don't break a 4g63 crank, a rod or piston go first, maybe spin a bearing...

i'm running 272 cams, full tune w/ 2 step launch control (holds 6200 rpms & builds 10psi of boost), MBC @ 22psi, TBE...and a bunch of other things i can't think of. anyone willing to line up? :)

He just put cams in and did not lock-tite the adjustable cam gears, the exhaust cam advanced itself about 12 degrees allowing the piston to hit the valve, all hell broke loose after that, now he is left with a large inspection hole in the front of his block with a crank journal haning out of it!! He just bought a longblock with 9000 miles and is have it put in this week.

I've posted numerous times about my races with my cousins modded STI. With all of my mods, I pulled a 12.4 in the 1/4 (spinning the tires) against his 13.00 at the track. On the ride home we did a few pulls. From 45-115 I had him by two cars. From 60-145 we were dead even. He had a TBE, Custom Tune, Up-pipe. He just bought an EVO 8. The Evo has a TBE, Cams and Cam gears, an intake and a crappy flash. No tune yet. We are dead even from certain speeds. Sometimes I edge ahead, sometimes he edges ahead. I know he cant run a 12.2-12.4 at the track. I find it hard to believe that people are putting 10+ cars on 300 whp wrx's. His STI barely had 300whp and i had a tough time beating him.
It all depends what speed you start at, as different speeds = different power bands.

Good Post. I don't see any EVO or STI with 300awhp having any problems with a stock or near stock JeepSRT8 from a roll. My old roomates EVO9 with bolt ons and tune (320awhp) was good for 7.8 in the 1/8 with a crappy 1.9x 60' at a ****ty track (qualcomm stadium). There was a Jeep meet there a few months ago and I didn't see any come close to those times, except for the nitrous guy. I know Sgtstanko was getting 8.5s or 8.4s and some other guy was running mid to upper 8s.

GotStroke, unless you were modded pretty good, I can't believe you put buslengths on a close to 300awhp WRX. I don't know **** about the subies, but I know my buddies EVO had just about no lag if he starts in the right gear. I guess its possible, but I bet he has a lot less power than he claims, or he can't drive for crap or something was wrong with his car.

Good Post. I don't see any EVO or STI with 300awhp having any problems with a stock or near stock JeepSRT8 from a roll. My old roomates EVO9 with bolt ons and tune (320awhp) was good for 7.8 in the 1/8 with a crappy 1.9x 60' at a ****ty track (qualcomm stadium). There was a Jeep meet there a few months ago and I didn't see any come close to those times, except for the nitrous guy. I know Sgtstanko was getting 8.5s or 8.4s and some other guy was running mid to upper 8s.

GotStroke, unless you were modded pretty good, I can't believe you put buslengths on a close to 300awhp WRX. I don't know **** about the subies, but I know my buddies EVO had just about no lag if he starts in the right gear. I guess its possible, but I bet he has a lot less power than he claims, or he can't drive for crap or something was wrong with his car.

Same mods as in my sig. 401/400rw SAE in 4th gear. I'll have to get it on video next time. My buddy was embarassed as hell (he was kind of proud of his car). BTW he ran 12.9@105 at the strip with around 1700+ DA over the summer. He has a larger turbo (I posted all the details reg. the race in this or the performance forum a few mos. back) which does lag a bit more. By the way I literally ran away from him from a roll I'm guessing it wasn't spooled, or close to it. Again though, the most surprising thing was how I not only continued to gain in third and fourth but did so more quickly than in first/second.

Here you go:

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With a friend in his non STI WRX with 17.5psi of VF30 IHI (45mm) turbo, up/downpipes, exhaust, intake, and UTEC tuning.
How do you think I'll do? I'm thinking I should hold him off until the 1/8th mile. I'll report back asap.

http://www.cherokeesrt8.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8311&highlight=race+wrx

Good Post. I don't see any EVO or STI with 300awhp having any problems with a stock or near stock JeepSRT8 from a roll. My old roomates EVO9 with bolt ons and tune (320awhp) was good for 7.8 in the 1/8 with a crappy 1.9x 60' at a ****ty track (qualcomm stadium). There was a Jeep meet there a few months ago and I didn't see any come close to those times, except for the nitrous guy. I know Sgtstanko was getting 8.5s or 8.4s and some other guy was running mid to upper 8s.

GotStroke, unless you were modded pretty good, I can't believe you put buslengths on a close to 300awhp WRX. I don't know **** about the subies, but I know my buddies EVO had just about no lag if he starts in the right gear. I guess its possible, but I bet he has a lot less power than he claims, or he can't drive for crap or something was wrong with his car.

The one time I actually got traction at the track was the one day they were only running 1/8's cause it was too windy. I pulled a 1.7 60ft, with a 7.8@87.19mph. Thats my best run to date. I have MUCH respect for the Evo's and Sti's. If I could afford another car right now it would be one of those. Very easy to mod, and fun as all hell. Feels like I'm driving a go-cart on the juice. :D

Same mods as in my sig. 401/400rw SAE in 4th gear. I'll have to get it on video next time. My buddy was embarassed as hell (he was kind of proud of his car). BTW he ran 12.9@105 at the strip with around 1700+ DA over the summer. He has a larger turbo (I posted all the details reg. the race in this or the performance forum a few mos. back) which does lag a bit more. By the way I literally ran away from him from a roll I'm guessing it wasn't spooled, or close to it. Again though, the most surprising thing was how I not only continued to gain in third and fourth but did so more quickly than in first/second.

well at least you aren't stock. How much HP do you guys typically put down stock?

well at least you aren't stock. How much HP do you guys typically put down stock?

On average it appears between 345-360rwhp/tq SAE.

The one time I actually got traction at the track was the one day they were only running 1/8's cause it was too windy. I pulled a 1.7 60ft, with a 7.8@87.19mph. Thats my best run to date. I have MUCH respect for the Evo's and Sti's. If I could afford another car right now it would be one of those. Very easy to mod, and fun as all hell. Feels like I'm driving a go-cart on the juice. :D

I have to admit they've (or their abilities) have grown on me, however I still can't deal with the look of the cars themselves--they just scream teenager IMO. Wish they had a visually toned down version (ala 5.0 LX) that still had all the powertrain/suspension goodies.

I have to admit they've (or their abilities) have grown on me, however I still can't deal with the look of the cars themselves--they just scream teenager IMO. Wish they had a visually toned down version (ala 5.0 LX) that still had all the powertrain/suspension goodies.

The EVO Xs look better, I think. They aren't quite as boxy and I don't think the have the huge wing.

The EVO Xs look better, I think. They aren't quite as boxy and I don't think the have the huge wing.

Just read the rag test (MT) on one, damn they gained some weight and slowed down (straight line and around a track) though didn't they?

How are the previous gen owners taking that?

I have to admit they've (or their abilities) have grown on me, however I still can't deal with the look of the cars themselves--they just scream teenager IMO. Wish they had a visually toned down version (ala 5.0 LX) that still had all the powertrain/suspension goodies.

Agreed. They put out a limited addition Sti, that did away with the huge wing, and had a just a lip on the back I think. It looked good in a graphite color. Not too..... HEY LOOK AT ME!!!!!!!! I really like the Subaru Legacy GT spec B. Nice and clean looking. Fast too.

Just read the rag test (MT) on one, damn they gained some weight and slowed down (straight line and around a track) though didn't they?

How are the previous gen owners taking that?

They probably take it good, it always sucks when a newer version comes out thats faster!! jk I dont know actually.

And ya, the Legacy GT is a very nice looking car, there is one on display in the mall here and it looks really nice in person. I think they even have a legacy GT R or somethign like that with a 3.0 instead of the 2.5.

They probably take it good, it always sucks when a newer version comes out thats faster!! jk I dont know actually.

And ya, the Legacy GT is a very nice looking car, there is one on display in the mall here and it looks really nice in person. I think they even have a legacy GT R or somethign like that with a 3.0 instead of the 2.5.

It (IX to X) went from 13.4@102.2 to 14.0@96.9mph

0-60, 4.7 to 5.4 seconds

3254lbs to 3585lbs

Sucks for the purists.

It (IX to X) went from 13.4@102.2 to 14.0@96.9mph

0-60, 4.7 to 5.4 seconds

3254lbs to 3585lbs

Sucks for the purists.

wow that sucks. Car and Driver had a little better times, 5.0 0-60, and the 1/4 at 13.8 @ 102. Where'd you get your times from, they are horrible!! I hope, for the EVOs sake, that the Car and Driver times are more accurate.

wow that sucks. Car and Driver had a little better times, 5.0 0-60, and the 1/4 at 13.8 @ 102. Where'd you get your times from, they are horrible!! I hope, for the EVOs sake, that the Car and Driver times are more accurate.

Motor Trend Jan 08 issue. MTs times/traps are typically closest to what we see in the real world (though usually still slower). C&D isn't too bad, most of the time anyway. R&T flat out sucks.
They had both cars on hand for the test (IX and X).

broke a crank or a connecting rod?! you don't break a 4g63 crank, a rod or piston go first, maybe spin a bearing...

i'm running 272 cams, full tune w/ 2 step launch control (holds 6200 rpms & builds 10psi of boost), MBC @ 22psi, TBE...and a bunch of other things i can't think of. anyone willing to line up? :)

My pleasure. Ever in the Chicago area?;)

I cant wait to get home and run all my buddies who have WRXs. lol

Here, this was a highly modded EVO. From a start I would have wooped him even more.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2xcZ__cBUk

The Gto was a heads cam intake running 12.2 in the 1/4 wooped him bad

I get smoked repeadtly in every gear at every speed by my friends Forester. Talk about sleeper. As you can see from my name, I am Subaru guy at heart. As I have posted before, be weary of both subaru's and EVO's. They can be fast. My other friend owns IAG Performance in Westminster MD and his STI will make everything look like its standing still from a stop. (Including 600whp+ cars to the 1/8) It does take some skill to drive these cars, but if I can pull 1.7 60ft times and a 12.6 1/4 in a 315whp 02 WRX, I am pretty sure alot of subarus can hand our Pig of a Jeep's its ass.

I really like the Subaru Legacy GT spec B. Nice and clean looking. Fast too.

I am actually highly contemplating selling the Jeep for one of these. I cant have one thats slower than my jeep though, so it will be in the shop the day I buy it for a lowering, and a huge turbo setup. Thinking about shooting for 450whp on pump gas. That should be pretty sleeper.

I am actually highly contemplating selling the Jeep for one of these. I cant have one thats slower than my jeep though, so it will be in the shop the day I buy it for a lowering, and a huge turbo setup. Thinking about shooting for 450whp on pump gas. That should be pretty sleeper.

They are definatly sleepers. Lower it, tint, gunmetal rims, no small wing on the trunk, 30 or 35r. Bye Bye!!!! :cool:

I am actually highly contemplating selling the Jeep for one of these. I cant have one thats slower than my jeep though, so it will be in the shop the day I buy it for a lowering, and a huge turbo setup. Thinking about shooting for 450whp on pump gas. That should be pretty sleeper.

450rw shouldn't be hard, but I'd hate the see the power curves on one of those--can you say gutless on the street.

450rw shouldn't be hard, but I'd hate the see the power curves on one of those--can you say gutless on the street.

Unless the driver mod is good..... Anyone that can break boost at a 40mph roll should eat our lunch..... including mine. But this will be a very modified EVO;)

Unless the driver mod is good..... Anyone that can break boost at a 40mph roll should eat our lunch..... including mine. But this will be a very modified EVO;)

Yes a two step from a dig or brake boosting while moving will help a ton during a race, but that still won't make it fun to drive the other 90% of the time. There's a good bit of lag in my buddy's 295awhp WRX, I can't imagine what it would be like at 450aw.

I am actually highly contemplating selling the Jeep for one of these. I cant have one thats slower than my jeep though, so it will be in the shop the day I buy it for a lowering, and a huge turbo setup. Thinking about shooting for 450whp on pump gas. That should be pretty sleeper.

They don't handle too hot in my opinion. Maybe after coil overs or something...

I have to admit they've (or their abilities) have grown on me, however I still can't deal with the look of the cars themselves--they just scream teenager IMO. Wish they had a visually toned down version (ala 5.0 LX) that still had all the powertrain/suspension goodies.

the Evo comes in a RS model. its a true Evo sans the wing, power windows/locks, radio and HID's. if i were keeping mine the wing would be off and i'd slap on a trunk lip (think BMW M3).

I get smoked repeadtly in every gear at every speed by my friends Forester. Talk about sleeper. As you can see from my name, I am Subaru guy at heart. As I have posted before, be weary of both subaru's and EVO's. They can be fast. My other friend owns IAG Performance in Westminster MD and his STI will make everything look like its standing still from a stop. (Including 600whp+ cars to the 1/8) It does take some skill to drive these cars, but if I can pull 1.7 60ft times and a 12.6 1/4 in a 315whp 02 WRX, I am pretty sure alot of subarus can hand our Pig of a Jeep's its ass.


Throw money at turd and it will be fast. The point is a Jeep which is two tons is faster then a EVO, STi, and WRX stock. Also from what has been posted lightly mod EVOs and Sti's and WRXs still cant hang with lightly moded Jeeps. :D

Actually, with a rotated mount ball bearing turbo like a Garret GT35R (450whp), The lag is no worse than my 315hp standard mount journal bearing internally gated turbo. It really is amazing.

You guys are right though, even my buddies 500+whp STI feels slow compared to the jeep due to lack of instant torque. Although, even from a dig, he kills me halfway through second gear. I enjoy the jeep, but i want something that will run 11's w/ no juice and total cost <40k

Actually, with a rotated mount ball bearing turbo like a Garret GT35R (450whp), The lag is no worse than my 315hp standard mount journal bearing internally gated turbo. It really is amazing.

Honestly, I'd have to feel it to believe it.

You guys are right though, even my buddies 500+whp STI feels slow compared to the jeep due to lack of instant torque. Although, even from a dig, he kills me halfway through second gear. I enjoy the jeep, but i want something that will run 11's w/ no juice and total cost <40k

Leftover 07 C6 and a few bolt-ons. I'm still confident we can run high 11s with the stock longblock (maybe tires/converter) we just need a little more time with them. You could also have a 2003-2004 Cobra with HP twin kit (base uses 57mm turbos) and make 750rw on 93 octane and over 900rw on 104, with plenty of cash leftover. Hell, Gen 3 Vipers will probably be close to 40 by spring.

Actually, with a rotated mount ball bearing turbo like a Garret GT35R (450whp), The lag is no worse than my 315hp standard mount journal bearing internally gated turbo. It really is amazing.

You guys are right though, even my buddies 500+whp STI feels slow compared to the jeep due to lack of instant torque. Although, even from a dig, he kills me halfway through second gear. I enjoy the jeep, but i want something that will run 11's w/ no juice and total cost <40k

If I were going to get an Import EVOs and STis are great plateforms. I just dont like the 4door family sedan look. Also last time I checked big turbo kits plus bolt-ons and tuning cost a pretty penny for the STi. Thats why my Buddy sold his and bought a 03 Cobra and is now running low low 11s with less into his Cobra then what he was going to spend on his STi.


Leftover 07 C6 and a few bolt-ons. I'm still confident we can run high 11s with the stock longblock (maybe tires/converter) we just need a little more time with them. You could also have a 2003-2004 Cobra with HP twin kit (base uses 57mm turbos) and make 750rw on 93 octane and over 900rw on 104, with plenty of cash leftover. Hell, Gen 3 Vipers will probably be close to 40 by spring.

I have only 1-2K in mods in my 03 Cobra and thats the time I ran in my sig. Thats also on DRs. I never had a chance to run my 26x11.5x17 MT ET Streets. :cool:

Been reading the kill threads around here and havn't seen anyone talking about EVOs. Has anyone ran any? What was the turn out?


My friends EVO turns in the 11s, don't think to many GCSRT8s are going to beat him in the 1/4. Get him in a roll and you'll eat him up, those Turbo's aren't all powerful, Turbo Lag you know.


Jack

turbo lag can easily be eliminated, not 100%...maybe reduced is a better word. adjustable cam gears, ball bearing turbos and meth injection all reduce lag.

Leftover 07 C6 and a few bolt-ons. I'm still confident we can run high 11s with the stock longblock (maybe tires/converter) we just need a little more time with them. You could also have a 2003-2004 Cobra with HP twin kit (base uses 57mm turbos) and make 750rw on 93 octane and over 900rw on 104, with plenty of cash leftover. Hell, Gen 3 Vipers will probably be close to 40 by spring.

Yeah, but can you put 4 people in it and drive it around unsuspectingly kill almost anything on the road? Can you drive it in the snow? Can i take clients in the car and have them not even realize they are riding in a 500hp monster?

The answer is no. I was even contiplating buying a terminator convert and doing twins a couple months back....then the wife decided she wanted a new house! I agree with you on all your points, there are ways to go faster for cheaper with even a better looking, cooler sports car. But at this time in my life, I want my DD to all things well. Thanks for the ideas though.

Plus, Legacys can be super hot. Imagine this w/ 450AWHP! Thats a slick M5 beater.

Yeah, but can you put 4 people in it and drive it around unsuspectingly kill almost anything on the road? Can you drive it in the snow? Can i take clients in the car and have them not even realize they are riding in a 500hp monster?

The answer is no. I was even contiplating buying a terminator convert and doing twins a couple months back....then the wife decided she wanted a new house! I agree with you on all your points, there are ways to go faster for cheaper with even a better looking, cooler sports car. But at this time in my life, I want my DD to all things well. Thanks for the ideas though.

Plus, Legacys can be super hot. Imagine this w/ 450AWHP! Thats a slick M5 beater.


LOL, you never said anything about all the other restrictions on purchase. Definitely a nice looking car, what's it run?

That car there I believe has standard mount turbo probably around 280 to the wheels. So maybe mid 12's with me driving. That is just what I want mine to look like. Mine will be much faster.