I have been trolling this forum for a while now, trying to figure out just how much I want an SRT8. I am currently looking for a new car to replace my 06 Mazdaspeed6 and my two best choices are the 335i coupe or the SRT8 cherokee. I know, big difference, but let me explain my choice problem.

I want the 335i because it is a good looking (but still kinda bland) sports car that I can make very fast without much work, and I can get a manual tranny.

But I also am looking at the SRT8 because I would like a larger car for trips, something high off the ground because I work for a construction company (but its not a must), but yet something pretty quick that I can still get my speed fix with. The only big problems I have with the Jeep is the auto tranny, lack of good towing options, and MPG.

So what am I missing? What else is there to the SRT-8 that I am missing out on, things that trump the 335? Thats all I want to know. Thanks for the help.

SRT Tromps the 335i.

Yeah - performance isn't even close. Even with a bunch of mods, I don't know that the 335i is going to have the get-up the SRT will have stock. And if you threw the same sort of mods into the SRT, you'd have a real bad beast.

(Also, don't think that the SRT has much in the way of ground clearance... it's really quite low. I have to go off my driveway curb one wheel at a time...)

If you are worried about the MPG then your better choice is the BMW..

If you look through some more threads you'll find about 5 other guys asking the same exact question? There have been alot of comments its worth it to check them out.

PROCeed the 335i.......Ride, handling, mileage, resale, quality.

But, best bang for the buck is the SRT....The Jeep will pull like a beast from a Dig, and the AWD is great in the rain and snow.
But, you can get AWD in the 335i, which will cause you to lose time..the Jeep has the 6.1 and the gearing.

Two completely different animals. However, I respect whatever choice you make. The SRT is just raw horsepower with performance to back it up and fun to drive at the same time while the 335 would be a better daily driver, and of course get better gas mileage. You should test drive them both and go from there.

Well, you won't be taking the JGC to any construction sites unless the roads are already paved & you can park in a paved area. These things have about 5" of ground clearance at the front spoiler.....and those spoilers WILL break when struck( ask me how I know:mad: ). And yes, towing capability & mileage SUCK. And you could make the 335 VERY fast with the proper intake, exhaust, and computer work. BUT....a 335 will never have the same in your face "Presence" of the SRT8. From the sound of the 6.1 liter V8 exhaust to the "Oh My God" stomach turning launch, you just won't be able to get the same testicular swelling from the Bimmer.:D

The only big problems I have with the Jeep is the auto tranny, lack of good towing options, and MPG.


You write this and your other option is a BMW that can't tow either. There are several towing options available depending on what you plan on towing. If MPG is a concern you all ready have answered your question yourself.

Buy them both. Drive the BMW when you feel slow and lethargic and drive the Jeep SRT8 when you feel like driving the best all around ride ever. The 335i coupe does not come in all wheel drive only the sedan does. The Jeep SRT8 has it ALL. How many whips out there can fit 5 and kill nearly every sports car and keep up with most exotics regardless of price.

[QUOTE=skoobz2001;112679]Yeah - performance isn't even close. Even with a bunch of mods, I don't know that the 335i is going to have the get-up the SRT will have stock. And if you threw the same sort of mods into the SRT, you'd have a real bad beast.
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Not true at all. Ya, stock for stock the Jeep is faster, but NOT a ton faster. Stock 335s have gone mid 13s. Next, the 335s come stock turboed (obvious) and a simple tune can put them around 400whp and tq.
anyways, they are both sweet rides. If you don't mind the gas mileage, I'd say go for the jeep... fast, looks cool, not that many around and still is a practical ride to have.

Or you could always get a Trailblazer SS??? haaha jk guys, i know the ss is just a big pos

A "simple tune" doesn't put the 335i around 400whp.

The V1 ProCeed is good for 380 fwhp / 320 rwhp with 93 Octane.

The V2 ProCeed plus aftermarket cat-back ups you to between 335-350 rwhp depending on the gas you want to run.

Vishnu has reported 400 whp on 98 Octane at 15 psi but has not released a consumer version, only betas. There is still a lot of doubt as to where the limits of the stock turbo-back, intercoolers, and fuel system lie in terms of capability to support anything more than 400. The beauty of the matter is that this is the still the first year this engine has been in production, its only the beginning of what the new turbo bimmer motors are capable of. In a few years it won't be uncommon to see full bolt-on 500whp kits for a few thousand bucks... straight-six, direct injection, twin turbo is a great recipe for a tuner platform and leaves a lot of room for upgrades.

Posted this on a similar thread not too long ago. I have both a 2007 GCSRT and a 2007 BMW 335i...without doubt the SRT is more fun to drive on a daily basis. The Beemer is fast but doesn't feel fast...lacks that punch/torque thing that the SRT delivers. The Beemer handles better though.

I like the SRT for daily driving and the Beemer for road trips. But if I had to pick one, I would pick my SRT over my Beemer.

At the track, I ran a new 335 Turbo. I ran 11.6 at 117 and he ran a low 13 at 122. Top end is strong.

At the track, I ran a new 335 Turbo. I ran 11.6 at 117 and he ran a low 13 at 122. Top end is strong.

Are you sure about his ET/MPH? Those 2 numbers don't fit together.

A "simple tune" doesn't put the 335i around 400whp.

The V1 ProCeed is good for 380 fwhp / 320 rwhp with 93 Octane.

The V2 ProCeed plus aftermarket cat-back ups you to between 335-350 rwhp depending on the gas you want to run.

Vishnu has reported 400 whp on 98 Octane at 15 psi but has not released a consumer version, only betas. There is still a lot of doubt as to where the limits of the stock turbo-back, intercoolers, and fuel system lie in terms of capability to support anything more than 400. The beauty of the matter is that this is the still the first year this engine has been in production, its only the beginning of what the new turbo bimmer motors are capable of. In a few years it won't be uncommon to see full bolt-on 500whp kits for a few thousand bucks... straight-six, direct injection, twin turbo is a great recipe for a tuner platform and leaves a lot of room for upgrades.


Ok maybe not 400whp, but I still consider it a simple mod. The point I was getting at was that somebody said a mildly modded 335 couldn't keep up with a stock srt8 which obviously isn't true.

Yeah - performance isn't even close. Even with a bunch of mods, I don't know that the 335i is going to have the get-up the SRT will have stock. And if you threw the same sort of mods into the SRT, you'd have a real bad beast.

(Also, don't think that the SRT has much in the way of ground clearance... it's really quite low. I have to go off my driveway curb one wheel at a time...)

Off the line the Jeep's all-wheel-drive help it a lot. But once past about 60 the heavy jeep is no match for the BMW http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY4U4QCb_HU

For less than $500 you can get the JBS2R for the 335I and run 113 in the quarter mile http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=96793 I think the Jeep would need some pretty heavy mods, like a supercharger, to go that fast in the quarter.

But the Jeep is more practical, and plenty fast for most. Unless you live at high altitude, where a normall aspirated engine will lose quite a bit of power compared to a turbo engine.

The 335i coupe is available in AWD, i don't know who said that but it has been for a while now (it was late availability when it first came out). Both are great cars, but as everyone else has said completely different. People on here are going to be biased and obviously tell you to go for the Jeep. Truth is the 335i is almost as fast and with not a lot of $ in mods will be faster. With that noted i see 335's all over the place and the driver usually has no idea what their car is or what its capabilties are. I have never met an SRT driver like that ;) . You will be happy with whatever you get, but i'm also going to have to give the nod for the jeep.

That youtube video is kind of worthless without more information...was that at sea level? Higher elevation is going to favor the FI vehicle.. (and eventually there would be a crossover point in elevation where no matter what the SRT-8 is going to run slower than the 335i)...
Would be worthwhile to see both head to head at the track with information regarding the DA/Elevation to go with it.

I don't know how a 335i stock is going to pull out a victory against a well driven SRT-8 considering I personally don't expect a win against the jeep and I don't expect a loss against a 335i. (at sea level...as I said at high elev/DA there is nothing I could do)

Off the line the Jeep's all-wheel-drive help it a lot. But once past about 60 the heavy jeep is no match for the BMW http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY4U4QCb_HU
stock v stock the jeep is quicker through the 1/4. who knows what went wrong there (or what wasn't said...:cough:procede:cough:) don't go out trolling for SRT8s in your stock 335 and expect a win ;)


For less than $500 you can get the JBS2R for the 335I and run 113 in the quarter mile http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=96793
One guy with some gtech readouts? Uhh k. I call BS that hes stock aside from the JBS2R with race gas as well, probably atleast an exhaust.


I think the Jeep would need some pretty heavy mods, like a supercharger, to go that fast in the quarter.
Maybe but it won't need much in mods to run quicker in the quarter.

Hey guys, My wife and I are suppose to pick up our new 335i tomorrow or Saturday. Can't wait to run each other on the way back! I ordered the xi/steptronic. For some reason I am addicted to all-wheel drive! I will post the initial results even though there will be < 30 miles on the OD when we race. I expect the 335 to be faster after whatever tune I choose to purchase later. I've been following the E92 Forums and there are some cars running 12.6-12.7 and have spent only $379. However, it will never replace the raw, brute power you experience with the GC.

stock v stock the jeep is quicker through the 1/4.

Well Edmunds.com certainly wouldn't agree with you:
Jeep 1/4 13.4 @102 http://www.edmunds.com/apps/vdpcontainers/do/vdp/articleId=122969/pageNumber=4

335i 1/4 13.3 @106 http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FullTests/articleId=117669/pageId=105658 :)


One guy with some gtech readouts? Uhh k. I call BS that hes stock aside from the JBS2R with race gas as well, probably atleast an exhaust.

Nope, he doesn't have an exhaust http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1716933&postcount=36 :)


Maybe but it won't need much in mods to run quicker in the quarter.

I doubt that. It would need a supercharger, and that's a lot of money comapared to $500 for a chip. That's the beauty of a turbo. Cheers.

Well Edmunds.com certainly wouldn't agree with you:
Jeep 1/4 13.4 @102 http://www.edmunds.com/apps/vdpcontainers/do/vdp/articleId=122969/pageNumber=4

335i 1/4 13.3 @106 http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FullTests/articleId=117669/pageId=105658 :)

Ah but every other rag would. (as do the few people in this thread who own both..) :)
C&D 335 coupe 13.6
http://www.caranddriver.com/roadtests/11733/2007-bmw-335i-coupe.html
C&D SRT8 13.2
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/10848/2006-jeep-grand-cherokee-srt8.html
R&T 335 13.5
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=3&article_id=4638
R&T SRT8 13.2
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=3&article_id=4065&page_number=3


Nope, he doesn't have an exhaust http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1716933&postcount=36 :)
So he does have an LSD then? That's what 5 grand?



I doubt that. It would need a supercharger, and that's a lot of money comapared to $500 for a chip. That's the beauty of a turbo.
Notice I said quicker. As in the better E/T. This is what matters when talking 1/4 mile times, not MPH. I suppose MPH is indicative of roll on performance but for those of us who don't spend most of our day cruising at 100mph on the freeway looking for a race the difference between 108mph and 115mph in the 1/4 is meaningless.

SRT8s have dipped into the 12s stock (the exception of course, but I imagine your guy with gtech results is too). Meeting a 12.7 for $500 wouldn't be too tough, hell I think cobra kid did with about $200.


Cheers.
And to you. :)

Ah but every other rag would. (as do the few people in this thread who own both..) :)
C&D 335 coupe 13.6
http://www.caranddriver.com/roadtests/11733/2007-bmw-335i-coupe.html
C&D SRT8 13.2
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/10848/2006-jeep-grand-cherokee-srt8.html
R&T 335 13.5
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=3&article_id=4638
R&T SRT8 13.2
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=3&article_id=4065&page_number=3


So he does have an LSD then? That's what 5 grand?



Notice I said quicker. As in the better E/T. This is what matters when talking 1/4 mile times, not MPH. I suppose MPH is indicative of roll on performance but for those of us who don't spend most of our day cruising at 100mph on the freeway looking for a race the difference between 108mph and 115mph in the 1/4 is meaningless.

SRT8s have dipped into the 12s stock (the exception of course, but I imagine your guy with gtech results is too). Meeting a 12.7 for $500 wouldn't be too tough, hell I think cobra kid did with about $200.


And to you. :)


1/4 mile speed is the most important indicator. As a car with a fast time but slow mph like the Jeep simply shows it gets off the line quick only because of the all-wheel-drive grip. This video says it all http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY4U4QCb_HU Cheers :)

1/4 mile speed is the most important indicator. As a car with a fast time but slow mph like the Jeep simply shows it gets off the line quick only because of the all-wheel-drive grip. This video says it all http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY4U4QCb_HU Cheers :)

Whatever helps you sleep at night. ;)

I am debating between same two vehicles to to make as my dd
the bmw is quality and value through and through but at the same Time the srt is fast and practical

Decision decisions still can't pick my horse!!

Are you sure about his ET/MPH? Those 2 numbers don't fit together.


This 60 foot was 2.4

Hey guys, My wife and I are suppose to pick up our new 335i tomorrow or Saturday. Can't wait to run each other on the way back! I ordered the xi/steptronic. For some reason I am addicted to all-wheel drive! I will post the initial results even though there will be < 30 miles on the OD when we race. I expect the 335 to be faster after whatever tune I choose to purchase later. I've been following the E92 Forums and there are some cars running 12.6-12.7 and have spent only $379. However, it will never replace the raw, brute power you experience with the GC.

If you expected, or wanted to beat a Jeep SRT you go with RWD 335, not the AWD version. You just lost some valuable time. Still a great car.

How so? I test drove a 335i w/stept. I power-braked/built boost and it spun wildly at 15ft. An awd will not do that. RWD step-cars have posted 1.9's 60' on the stock RFT'S. As I posted earlier I will know first hand soon.

I guess my post went over your head. I said the RWD 335 is faster....work with me here.

Perhaps it did! ALL 335's are RWD unless you order AWD. Would your GC run faster if it were RWD? Please explain your comment for the slow one here. Thanks.

If I had to explain it, you would not understand it.

If I had to explain it, you would not understand it.
Oh, I get it now. You're just be a smarta**. You either cannot or do not care to participate in a meaningful, constructive conversation that would perhaps enlighten someone to your viewpoint. Thru with u, dude.

Thank you. Now go read the previous posts.....if you still can figure it out, I will provide some clues....but to stay with a Jeep SRT you need the RWD version as the AWD 335X is slower.....and still does not have the Jeeps gearing. You can ProCEDE the 335 for some cheap HP. The Jeep is still 0-60 in uder 5 sec, wet or dry. You can now go back to being "the best you ever had".