This is probably a question for GS Motorsports but here it goes.... With the current configuration of the air intake, is there a reason that no one is coming out with a whipple super charger that mounts on top of the manifold? I know that GS has there's but it is a side mount. If not familiar with the whipple, it seams like a better design because it can have a single screw or a double screw that forces a higher amount of a gas air mixture into the cylinders. Thanks for the explanation.

lol, I just made a thread on a something similar with the kenne bell blower.

As ours sits, it adds 100+ whp. I see nothing wrong with that and the design and layout has proven effective over many, many Hemi installs. As far as the Whipple charger, I have my own opinions. It'll work on many applications, and no so well on others. Paxton has proven to be the leader across the board.

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This is probably a question for GS Motorsports but here it goes.... With the current configuration of the air intake, is there a reason that no one is coming out with a whipple super charger that mounts on top of the manifold? I know that GS has there's but it is a side mount. If not familiar with the whipple, it seams like a better design because it can have a single screw or a double screw that forces a higher amount of a gas air mixture into the cylinders. Thanks for the explanation.

Thanks for the response. I was looking for the pros and cons of the whipple. I am a boater and see a lot of them used in marine applications. Most of these are compact in size and would fit nicely under the hood. Are the twin screw whipples able to produce more PSI's than the side mounts. Thanks!

Ill chime in here as one is coming out soon? This came from a big west coast engine builder. It is liquid cooled with a front mount condenser. Much like the Ford Lightning. This builder doesn't like the current SCs because of possible lean out of the front two cylinders and the fuel distribution problem. Possible enternal engine damage can happen due to this lean out condition. So wait as this new system is in the final design now. When? How much? I'll post the info when available. A lot of new stuff for the 6.1 is coming out real soon so be patient. MO Gene

This truck with it's tq and the way a positive displacement blower makes it's pwr would be awessome on this truck. This truck would run 3sec 0-60 with a whipple or bell blower. The centrifigal blowers are better in the mid to high end range. If I was in the market I would do a positive displacemnet blower on this truck it would be crazy. I have had both blowers this is my opinion.

I have a whipple on my cobra...love it!! A twinscrew on these beast would snap a lot of differential covers....gotta love torque!!

I have had a Whipple on my 454 Suburban for years now, their compressors are reliable but the customer support and their tune were not.

Ill chime in here as one is coming out soon? This came from a big west coast engine builder. It is liquid cooled with a front mount condenser. Much like the Ford Lightning. This builder doesn't like the current SCs because of possible lean out of the front two cylinders and the fuel distribution problem. Possible enternal engine damage can happen due to this lean out condition. So wait as this new system is in the final design now. When? How much? I'll post the info when available. A lot of new stuff for the 6.1 is coming out real soon so be patient. MO Gene

I agree with you, I heard so many stories about guys who had holes in thier pistons from the fact that the 6.1L intake manifold is not designed for an aux. injectors. some cylinders in the engine will get more fuel and some will lean up ending by major damages.

Reference to the guy you are refereing to from the west coast, i know him, he is a very decent guy and a very straight forward in everything he says

Please update us whenever you have any news about his project..
Thanks for the info

I need someone to explain to me the lean out of the front two cyliders theroy. We are multi port injected, and a pressured intake system shouldn't cause two injectors tied into the same fuel rail to all of a sudden fire less fuel than 6 others at the same opposing pressure.

If we were TB injected, and there were many bends which the fuel must make inorder to reach the cylinder, I could understand, but, this idea
I have some trouble with.

The twin screw blowers (Kenne Bell, Whipple) are excellent blowers, you will get big time torque right off idle.

I agree with you, I heard so many stories about guys who had holes in thier pistons from the fact that the 6.1L intake manifold is not designed for an aux. injectors. some cylinders in the engine will get more fuel and some will lean up ending by major damages.

Reference to the guy you are refereing to from the west coast, i know him, he is a very decent guy and a very straight forward in everything he says

Please update us whenever you have any news about his project..
Thanks for the info


Is the builder top secret information????

Its not a secret, but i would leave the floor to SRTJeep :)

If the builder info is not top secret, can someone PM me the company or additional info?

I've had both a roots style and centrifical in the past and there is no comparrison when it come to the low end grunt of what a whipple could produce. If they build it, I will come. :D

Kenne Bell is working on a Hemi 5.7 kit so I would assume it could be configured for a 6.1 as well.

Kenne Bell is working on a Hemi 5.7 kit so I would assume it could be configured for a 6.1 as well.KB has "been working on" the 5.7 Hemi for over three years now. They publicly gave up on the '03 Hemi Ram trucks. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for them.

Yeah I know, however it would be pretty cool if a twin screw blower was offered for the GC SRT8.

well, call me crazy, but I'd get it:eek:

i would too .. :D

Any lean out has to do mostly with air distribution. The west coast tuner is very knowledgeable, knows the 6.1 engine, builds a lot of Fords. (not Bell) The piggy-back fuel system is what he doesn't like, with the current SC. (lean spikes that can cause internal engine damage) A twin-screw, whipple, is the ticket. A cold air liquid cooled intercooler is the ticket, along with a better fuel enhancer. MO Of course. This builder is going to sell this new system, maybe has some input in it's design? I'm trying to find out more information and will post any new details. Gene

Any lean out has to do mostly with air distribution. The west coast tuner is very knowledgeable, knows the 6.1 engine, builds a lot of Fords. (not Bell) The piggy-back fuel system is what he doesn't like, with the current SC. (lean spikes that can cause internal engine damage) A twin-screw, whipple, is the ticket. A cold air liquid cooled intercooler is the ticket, along with a better fuel enhancer. MO Of course. This builder is going to sell this new system, maybe has some input in it's design? I'm trying to find out more information and will post any new details. Gene

Dude,
let us know.. I cant wait to hear about it.. Now we can have some competition
Thanks for your input:)

In case you guys forgot, this truck of ours weight four thousand eight hundred pounds. Two and a half tons. It needs TORQUE to get this behemoth off the line, horsepower is nice but getting moving is our hardest challenge. The torque a whipple delivers is second to none.

I have nothing against a centrifugal supercharger, they are easier to deal with and easier to install, and usually cheaper.

I also have yet to see a car that comes stock with a centrifugal charger. They all have eaton-roots style blowers. Why is that? Easy guaranteed boost with more efficient air delivery.

Torque... yummy. :)

It works on the "Ford Lightning"! I don't buy it. I'm trying to find out more info as this will be real trick, liquid cooled with a front mount cooler, SC, made buy a big company that has a lot of experience with SC, Blowers! Low RPM Engines (like the 6.1H) do respond to torque enhancers more than HP but both will increase some. All this is a waste until the PCM is hacked and re-flashed. A power programmer with this kit would be trick. Stay Tuned. Gene