OK, I need help trying to take off the rear sway link...I am trying to install the BWoody upgraded links...

I have an 08...maybe they are different.

The top connection of the rear sway links (connecting to the frame) has a bolt and nut on top that was easy...on the lower portion (the one that connects to the sway bar), there is a nut but the bolt head is not there...it has some plastic cap on it. So I have been loosening the nut but it is not coming off....

I need help...I am an idiot...

Look at the stud that the nut goes on. You can put a torx bit into it and spin it. Use a wrench to hold the nut still and turn the stud with the torx bit. You'll have to go clockwise with the torx to spin the stud back out of the nut.

Hope this helps.

If I understand you correctly, that would be a pretty big torx bit...I don't think I have one that big

Do you know the size? The biggest one I have is T20...

Post a pic of what you are looking at.

Do you know the size? The biggest one I have is T20...



T20 is pretty small. I have a set of Torx bits on Ebay right now lol. Bid on them.:D

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Snap-On-Torx-Socket-Set-12-piece-T8-T55_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ43993QQihZ020QQitem Z300158609516QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

OK, I need help trying to take off the rear sway link...I am trying to install the BWoody upgraded links...

I have an 08...maybe they are different.

The top connection of the rear sway links (connecting to the frame) has a bolt and nut on top that was easy...on the lower portion (the one that connects to the sway bar), there is a nut but the bolt head is not there...it has some plastic cap on it. So I have been loosening the nut but it is not coming off....

I need help...I am an idiot...

If you have channel locks or vice grips, you need to hold the part under the rubber boot or it will keep spinning.

pm sent.....

Greg, I got the PM.
T40 fits but that is not worth it. Used vice grips and it came off easy.
Dang Chrysler engineers....

Greg, I got the PM.
T40 fits but that is not worth it. Used vice grips and it came off easy.
Dang Chrysler engineers....

Good to hear! Those BWoody sway links are awesome! Have fun!!

Greg, I got the PM.
T40 fits but that is not worth it. Used vice grips and it came off easy.
Dang Chrysler engineers....
That HAD to be done for the assembly line.
The SRT engineers would say"Damn Plant Engineering, screwing with our stuff".
Bill

Man, we need a GTG to go over installs. I am looking at the drawing of the install and mine do not fit like this. I pm'ed Greg.

Man, we need a GTG to go over installs. I am looking at the drawing of the install and mine do not fit like this. I pm'ed Greg.

What's wrong? Post pics.

I installed mine last night and had a difficult time on the rears but I git it installed and hopefullt it is OK.

- on the drivers side, the link is intsalled on the outside
- on the passeger side the links are intsalled on the inside
- be careful the links have an offset on one end
- when I instaled the driver side, there was a gap between the links and the sway bar. I installed the top first but when I intsalled the lower ones, there was a gap. I loosend the top until I was able to pass the bold trough the lower one and tightened the bolts and torqued it.
- when I installed the passenger side, the sway bar was in the middle of the link. I looked at the picture again to make sure I did the driver side correctly and it was exactly as the picture. Again, I loosend all the top bolts and I was able to pass the bolt through the lower end. I tightened the bolts and torqued it.

Hopefully, I am OK. If I did not have the pictures, I would have put the driver side on the inside and the passenger side on the outside. But I just followed the pictures.

Hoefully you are OK now with the install.

Fledda, is your an 08?

I am tightening the passenger side now and mine are on the outside. Offset is on the bottom attached to the sway bar.

One mistake I did make was not removing both tires at the same time. Once I did that, the sway bar is loose enough to move up and down. But the picture on this forum does not match the printed instructions that came with the links.

I am doing the driver side rear now...standby.

Fledda, is your an 08?

I am tightening the passenger side now and mine are on the outside. Offset is on the bottom attached to the sway bar.

One mistake I did make was not removing both tires at the same time. Once I did that, the sway bar is loose enough to move up and down. But the picture on this forum does not match the printed instructions that came with the links.

I am doing the driver side rear now...standby.

The drivers side should be on the outside and the passenger side should be on the inside. Want me to post pics?

This is how mine looks.


Here's a shot I took of the drivers side. This view is looking up at the sway link from in front of the left tire.
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e32/PALELLA/Picture005.jpg

Here's a shot I took of the passenger side. This view is looking up at the sway link from in front of the right tire.
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e32/PALELLA/Picture006.jpg

Thanks for the pics Pae--- i wanted to keep going so I did not post any of mine. I am about to do the fronts.

My sway bar attachment points in the rear on BOTH sides was inside of the frame attachment- weird.

So I put both of my new links on the outside with the offset on the bottom attaching to the sway bars. I hope to God this is right.

Thanks for the pics Pae--- i wanted to keep going so I did not post any of mine. I am about to do the fronts.

My sway bar attachment points in the rear on BOTH sides was inside of the frame attachment- weird.

So I put both of my new links on the outside with the offset on the bottom attaching to the sway bars. I hope to God this is right.

Sorry to say, but I think you installed them wrong. I'm pretty sure they should look exactly like the pics I took if installed how BWoody designed them.

Yes, the stock has them both on the inside. For the Bwoody, the driver is on the outside and the passenger on the inside.

One question before I revisit the rears --

One the fronts, I have jacked the front passenger side but cannot get the jack high enough to get the tire off the ground--

is it critical to get the tire off the ground? Do I need to lift both front tires at the same time like I did in the rear?

One question before I revisit the rears --

One the fronts, I have jacked the front passenger side but cannot get the jack high enough to get the tire off the ground--

is it critical to get the tire off the ground? Do I need to lift both front tires at the same time like I did in the rear?

It doesn't have to be off the ground completely as long as the pressure is released from the sway bar. Give it a shot and if it doesn't work, just jack it up with a spacer either under the jack or on top of it to get the tire off the ground.

rear links on the passenger side should be on the inside of the bracket. on the drivers side it should be on the outside. if it is on the outside of the bracket on the passengers side, it might rub the tire.

I'm done. Thanks for the advice guys!

Gregg even called me from BWoody- you can't find that kind of service anywhere else on a Sunday!

Fronts were a piece of cake. On the passenger side I jacked until the tire was just off the ground. I then used a bottle jack to line up the bottom hole.

On the driver's side, oddly I did not have to use the bottle jack- the hole lined up without help.

Used a torque wrench to tighten everything to specs.

I really don't know what to do about the rears...
with the tires back on, if I can get a clear picture with a camera, I'll post them and see what you guys think...

but when I had the back end jacked up and the tires off, the attachment point of the rear sway bar on both sides was lined up inside of the frame attachment but only by a bit.

I tried every combination to see what would fit, and the only one that did was having the end of the link with the offset attached to the sway bar and the regular end attach to the frame- with the offset facing the sway. And this was on both sides.

So I need to know if anyone else faced this same issue...?

rear links on the passenger side should be on the inside of the bracket. on the drivers side it should be on the outside. if it is on the outside of the bracket on the passengers side, it might rub the tire.

OK, I have got to post pics asap then before I drive it.

I really don't know what to do about the rears...
with the tires back on, if I can get a clear picture with a camera, I'll post them and see what you guys think...

but when I had the back end jacked up and the tires off, the attachment point of the rear sway bar on both sides was lined up inside of the frame attachment but only by a bit.

I tried every combination to see what would fit, and the only one that did was having the end of the link with the offset attached to the sway bar and the regular end attach to the frame- with the offset facing the sway. And this was on both ends.

So I need to know if anyone else faced this same issue...?

Make sure that the rear is installed like my pictures showed. That's the way they were designed to be installed.
http://www.cherokeesrt8.com/forums/showpost.php?p=91701&postcount=17

Make sure that the rear is installed like my pictures showed. That's the way they were designed to be installed.
http://www.cherokeesrt8.com/forums/showpost.php?p=91701&postcount=17

Pal -- on the passenger side, is the offset at the bottom (sway) or top (frame) and which way was does the offset face (toward the inside or toward the tire)?

Thanks,

Pal -- on the passenger side, is the offset at the bottom (sway) or top (frame) and which way was does the offset face (toward the inside or toward the tire)?

Thanks,


Just look at the pics.:D

OK, it looks like from your pics that the offset is on top attached to the frame, facing toward the inside of the Jeep-- correct?

OK, it looks like from your pics that the offset is on top attached to the frame, facing toward the inside of the Jeep-- correct?



The drivers side is to be on the outside of the sway bracket and outside of the sway bar.

The passenger side is opposite. It should be on the inside of the sway bracket and the inside of the bar.

The drivers side is to be on the outside of the sway bracket and outside of the sway bar.

The passenger side is opposite. It should be on the inside of the sway bracket and the inside of the bar.

Yes, but on the link itself, there is an offset- each end is different- where did the end with the offset go? attached to the frame or the sway bar?

Yes, but on the link itself, there is an offset- each end is different- where did the end with the offset go? attached to the frame or the sway bar?

hmmmm, as far as I recall, they were the same top and bottom. :confused:

Maybe i gotta go take a look......

One end of the link has an offset. Depending on which side you are doing the offset on one side is on top and on the other side it is in the bottom. I cannot remember. Look at the picture in the installation instructions.

According to the install pictures.

For the driver side - the offset is in the bottom pointing towards the inside.

For the passenger side - the offset is is on the top pointing towards the outside

I think left side the offset should be on the bottom and right side should be on top.

One end of the link has an offset. Depending on which side you are doing the offset on one side is on top and on the other side it is in the bottom. I cannot remember. Look at the picture in the installation instructions.

OK, now that I think about this, whether the offset faces in or out won't matter...the distance and the effect are the same...what matters is whether the offset is mounted top or bottom and the link is inside or outside of the frame and sway bar attachment.

According to the drawing that came with mine, the passenger rear goes like this: mount link with offset end to the inside of the frame (top). Mount the bottom end without an offset to the inside of the sway bar.

Driver side: offset end mounted at the bottom to outside of the sway bar and top to the frame, also to the outside.

The only problem is I could not move my sway bar in and out. I could only move it up and down. There was no way to get the links to fit in the way it shows on the drawing. Maybe if if loosen the rubber grommet that holds the sway bar?

you can try it. they should be able to be tightened, and will pull in to place. if your still having problems, i will have mike call you in the morning, well afternoon here morning there

Bolt the top first BUT do not tighthen it (just enough so that it does not fall then thread the bolt in the botton and bolt it loosely. Now tighten the bolts going top to bottom until it is tight and then torque it.

OK, I will try it and let you guys know...Thanks.

I am about to jump back on this--- to help me understand, what are the offsets for? What are they trying to correct ? Were the links too far to one side from the factory? I am confused.

I am about to jump back on this--- to help me understand, what are the offsets for? What are they trying to correct ? Were the links too far to one side from the factory? I am confused.

The offsets are to make the links stay vertical. if they were not offset than the links would be angled in or out a littls bit.

The drivers side should have the offset on the bottom and on the inside. The passenger should have the offset on the top and on the outside.

Want me to shoot some close up pics??

The offsets are to make the links stay vertical. if they were not offset than the links would be angled in or out a littls bit.

The drivers side should have the offset on the bottom and on the inside. The passenger should have the offset on the top and on the outside.

Want me to shoot some close up pics??

Pal- how well did yours fit in there? I guess I did mine wrong the first time because it seemed to be misaligned badly if I followed the instructions.

Pal- how well did yours fit in there? I guess I did mine wrong the first time because it seemed to be misaligned badly if I followed the instructions.

I brought it in and took off the wheels to take better pics. Here ya go.


DRIVERS SIDE
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e32/PALELLA/101_0018.jpg

PASSENGER SIDE
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e32/PALELLA/101_0017.jpg

Which way are you facing in each picture?

Which way are you facing in each picture?


I am actually in the wheel well from behind the links looking forward at them.

Sorry to revive this thread, but can someone post the torque numbers for the rear sway?

they are on the instruction sheet on the bottom

OK, I need help trying to take off the rear sway link...I am trying to install the BWoody upgraded links...

I have an 08...maybe they are different.

The top connection of the rear sway links (connecting to the frame) has a bolt and nut on top that was easy...on the lower portion (the one that connects to the sway bar), there is a nut but the bolt head is not there...it has some plastic cap on it. So I have been loosening the nut but it is not coming off....

I need help...I am an idiot...

Allan,
give me a call, i am very interested in knowing about this install myself as i also have the sway bars and wish to put them on. 7204803387

roger

they are on the instruction sheet on the bottom

Are your instructions online for those that don't have a copy?

FRONT:

Lower = 85 ft. lbs.
Upper = 80 ft. lbs.REAR:

Lower = 90 ft. lbs.
Upper = 75 ft. lbs.

Showing both BWoody sway bar links mounted (front):
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y283/texastourist/Bwoody.jpg

Showing the driver side:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y283/texastourist/bwoodydriverside.jpg

Passenger side installed corrected for 1" oem swaybar offset:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y283/texastourist/bwoody3.jpg

Driverside mounted exactly the same as oem:http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y283/texastourist/bwoody4.jpg

REAR:
Lower = 90 ft. lbs.
Upper = 75 ft. lbs.

When you say upper and lower, do you mean upper and lower bolt on the bushing carrier (circled in red) or the links (circled in blue)? Based on the pics that you posted, I assume you are referring to the torque specs of just the links. If you are referring to just the links, what about the torque specs on the bushing carriers?

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a245/Serbonze/RearSway.jpg

Sorry to be so ignorant, I just want to make sure that I understand which bolts you are referring to.

(and thank you for the reply and pics!)

That was off BWoody's site and actually was contributed by Builder Bill might try him

dern my passenger side is mounted the wrong way! Wasn't any paperwork with mine, but I should have checked here first anyway hah. I have ~2 mm between the tire and the bolt. I had them put on, but want to fix tomorrow. I have a crap load of tools, but nothing to torque with. That's just a regular driver I can get from craftsman ya?

dern my passenger side is mounted the wrong way! Wasn't any paperwork with mine, but I should have checked here first anyway hah. I have ~2 mm between the tire and the bolt. I had them put on, but want to fix tomorrow. I have a crap load of tools, but nothing to torque with. That's just a regular driver I can get from craftsman ya?

http://www.epinions.com/hmgd-Shop_Tools-All-Craftsman-Torque_Wrenches

Thanks candyman!