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John Hennessey
07-15-2006, 01:24 PM
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El Jefe
07-16-2006, 01:59 PM
Ive heard a lot of negative things about Hennessey lately. The only reason im bringing it up is because Im sure some of the GCSRT8 guys wouldnt want this to happen to them.
Shed some light on these statements by customers:

"Hennessey is a fraud, as if not delivering cars on time wasn't bad enough, if my memory serves correctly, many of the cars he had sent to journalists and magazines for testing have been plagued with reliability issues, some of them puking during shake down runs, not even lasting long enough to be properly tested"

"I am sure many of you know who John Hennessey is? He is a reputable performance car builder who has built several "legendary" Viper, Corvette, and some other vehicles. But he is also known for scamming some rich folks. Many has warned to stay away from him. Hennessey have been sued by FedEX, UPS, and past clients for unpaid debts"

"Hennessey has a tendency to take the vehicle and the cash, and then never give the vehicle back. Or if he does, nothing has been done to it. I read one account where Hennessey pulled parts off a guy's Viper, sold the parts, and then put the car in the corner of his shop and never touched it again"

"Come on! Isn't it obvious to everyone out there yet? Hennessey scams the little guys and the out of staters who are less likely to show up at his door with a bat and sucks up in a major league way to the magazines. They're free advertising for him! Of course he builds great cars for the reviews"

"This point is almost not worth talking about anymore, but since it was brought up here goes. I have found John to be a crook, liar and have the worst customer service I have ever witnessed in any company. Can he build a fast car? Of course. With a competent staff most shops can. Does he have his customers best interests at heart? Just listen to so many of his former customers and you will know the answer. Does he know how to get his face in the mags? It's the one thing he's personally good at. Hopefully due process will take over and HMS will be a thing of the past."

Hennessey Has Customer Arrested:
"This tops it all Viper fans.... I'm the customer of John Hennessey's that paid for a Venom 650 package plus Brembo Racing brakes, a Penske 2 way suspension , and roll bar but only received about $11,000 of a $38,000 order in an 8 month span. I know you all are tired of the posts but please read on, it gets pretty interesting.
I planned a trip to California for pleasure on a private jet and was told we had to stop in Houston for fuel so I thought I might stop in at HMS to see for myself the man that ripped me off and what his plans to settle up were face to face. I called ahead of time and left a message under a different name as a new customer so John would show up, when we got there his mechanic said to come back in an hour so we went for lunch and came
Back. I brought a video camera so I could get the meeting on tape, when John showed up he saw new customers and $$$$$ so he put on his "Good Ole Boy" smile and welcomed us in. Once inside he notice the camera and asked me to turn it off , I said no and then told him who I really was and that I wanted a straight up answer what he planned to do. You should have seen his face, like deer in headlights he had nothing to say except get out or he would call the police. I refused and demanded an answer but John just stood there like a gutless man and would not talk and called the cops for trespassing. So after repeated non-threatening attempts to get him to talk he asked me and my brother-in-law if we were gay , I replied "Yeah and I'm gonna throw you over that car and f*ck you up the azz like you have been f*cking me for 8 months" , little did I know that comment would be considered a "TERRORISTIC THREAT" , (one of John famous claims) anyway we decided to wait for the police so I could report him for theft , we waited 40 minutes for the cops to come and when they finally came I ran out of tape in the camera and missed the most unbelievable part. The cop listened to John’s side of the story first and said he would hear us after, that didn't happen once John told him about the so-called "Terroristic Treat" within minutes we were both in cuffs in the back of the police car under arrest for trespassing and terroristic threat. The cop would not hear our side and told us we were going to jail and wouldn't even watch the tape, we tried to reason with him but his last name was Walker and he thought he was Chuck Norris Texas Ranger," you’re in cuffs, in my car, I'm writing, and you’re goin to jail". After sitting outside HMS in cuffs for over 30 minutes we were on our way to the Houston City Jail, my camera was taken by the arresting office and we were sent to booking. Two white boys from Florida with a Bullshit arrest , we were shuffled around , stripped of our belongings , finger printed and sent to a holding cell full of non- white- non Florida boys that were all under arrest for real crimes , drug dealers , buyers , thieves , assault , and a murderer to top it off. After 10 hours in jail and a few phone calls later we posted bail for $1,500 and back on the street at 2 in the morning with an impounded rental
Car, no change of clothes and no bed. It is now 12:30 pm and we are in flight to California looking back at the day and planning our next trip back to Houston. We went from the Penthouse to the Shithouse in less than 3 hours but now were back in the Penthouse and Hennessey bought some time but the fact remains Johnny still owes $27,000 and if it costs me 10 times that in lawyer fees I will make sure Hennessey gets the same smelly *** cell that I got.

P.S. "Mr. Crack sellin Murderer what do you do when a fat little red headed Viper tuner thief gets put in YOUR holding cell? (In my best Chris Rock voice) The first thing I do is make ‘em TOSS MY SALAD!!!

What do you prefer John? Jelly or Syrup..?????"

Go to Viper Club of America and type in Hennessey in the search and read all the stories...If youre thinking about getting this Hennessey turbo kit Id definitely read up on some of these stories...

Logan
07-16-2006, 06:59 PM
His reputation is fairly well known among those that walk in these circles and it's not good. Unless your income is disposable and you don't give a crap who you give your money to, I wouldn't touch a thing Hennessey sells.

I've no personal experience with the man, but a visit to any viper or vette forum will yield a tonne of material on experiences with this fella, more than enough to ensure I never spend a penny or a thought on him or his business.

Why would I risk my time and money on him vs dealing with folks with a reputation beyond reproach, of which, there are many.

lindy9
07-16-2006, 07:45 PM
thank you i will not be dealing with hennessey

Sgt Stanko
07-16-2006, 08:13 PM
I would post this on the ****** forum. I knew this idiot was a crook when he posted 16hp after removing the SRT8 Jeep rear resonators.
:mad:

ekool
07-16-2006, 08:14 PM
Hennessey has had some problems in the past but he is on a number of our other forums (and has been for quite some time) and has had an excellent reputation. Please search for his name at the following sites and make an informed decision for yourself.

http://www.srt10forum.com
http://www.300cforums.com
http://www.chargerforums.com

John Hennessey
07-16-2006, 08:18 PM
I would post this on the ****** forum. I knew this idiot was a crook when he posted 16hp after removing the SRT8 Jeep rear resonators.
:mad:
I have never posted that and never posted on the ****** forum.

Krush
07-16-2006, 08:35 PM
I know someone who sent his Viper to HPE with no problems, and I've read many good things also. I guess you just have to get all the info you can and decide for yourself.

Untouchable
07-16-2006, 08:40 PM
:eek:

those are some strong claims. And he didnt refute them either, Maybe I ll think twice before removing my resonators;)

John Hennessey
07-16-2006, 09:46 PM
:eek:

those are some strong claims. And he didnt refute them either, Maybe I ll think twice before removing my resonators;)

I refute all that BS. I refute the moderators and site owner/operator for allowing harrassing and unsubstaniated bs with no first hand knowledge to be posted on here. it is slanderous and libelous.

and we will hold any such person or business accountable for stating or allowing this to happen or continue to happen.

John Hennessey
Hennessey Performance Engineering

ekool
07-16-2006, 10:37 PM
John,

As I mentioned in the email. Since we have no first hand knowledge of your previous transactions we will not take action.

We feel it is our users' right to post concerns regarding the history of businesses, wether they be supporting vendors or not. If you feel the statements are libelous or slanderous, I would advise taking that issue up with the original posters.

While I feel you have been a great vendor on our forums during your stay with us, I cannot simply remove posts or threads that our users' post about your past because you want me to.

Hotscott7
07-16-2006, 11:19 PM
For one thing this thread is not full of BS this thread is full of TRUE comments from your past customers that you ripped off. Business is business and if you dont know how to run one or deal with your customers this is how you are going to be treated. I stated in an earliar thread that you were a crook for trying to sell a turbo kit for $10,000 which is all starting to make sense now. Also i now see why you are not allowing a mail order kit, because you will have all these people drop there trucks off at your shop and let them sit there and never touch them like you have in the past.

Looks like Mr hennesey is in a bind......

Sgt Stanko
07-16-2006, 11:39 PM
I refute all that BS. I refute the moderators and site owner/operator for allowing harrassing and unsubstaniated bs with no first hand knowledge to be posted on here. it is slanderous and libelous.

and we will hold any such person or business accountable for stating or allowing this to happen or continue to happen.

John Hennessey
Hennessey Performance Engineering

Hey......hey.. hey.. hey.....this is a free speech country. This is the internet NOT the New York Times. If you have not made outrageous claims or have a 100% satisfaction, money back guarantee then you may have a leg to stand on, but I find it hard to believe that AZRoush would spend 2 hours writing his story because of some false fabrication. He'll see you in court it sounds like and one of you may let us know the results.

When you are in the business of providing service your name and reputation are only as good as your word and service to the people...your customer..... who pays so you can own the computer your writting on.

Time will tell if you stay in business and only you can determine that!!

El Jefe
07-17-2006, 12:04 AM
And now I get this private message from John Hennessey:
LEGAL ACTION

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I SUGGEST THAT YOU CHANGE OR DELETE YOUR POST TO REFLECT FACTS THAT YOU KNOW TO BE TRUE FROM YOUR OWN PERSONAL DEALINGS WITH ME OR HENNESSEY PERFORMANCE ENGINEERING.

IF YOU DO NOT DO THIS WITHIN 24 HRS THEN I WILL INSTRUCT OUR COMPANY ATTORNEY TO FILE A LAWSUIT AGAINST YOU AND THE FORUM OWNER / OPERATOR.

IF YOU FEEL THAT YOUR FACTS ARE CORRECT AND CAN AFFORD THE COST OF LITIGATION THEN MORE POWER TO YOU.

JOHN HENNESSEY, PRESIDENT
HENNESSEY PERFORMANCE ENGINEERING

Sorry John, its called free speech. If its false then prove it to us. Why would we pay you to do "work" on our cars when these horror stories are all over the internet. I really think the owner of this website should take a look at whats going on here.
Another thing, Didnt the company used to be called Hennessey Motorsports? Did you change to Hennessey Performance Engineering because all the lawsuits against you were made in the original company name?

El Jefe
07-17-2006, 01:15 AM
AutoWeek is a very reputable resource. I just did a search on their website and found this:
http://autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20020405/FREE/204050704&SearchID=73250911497300

Published 4/5/02

Ninety-eight percent of his customers love him, John Hennessey says. But a few hate him and some have sued.Hennessey Motorsports in Houston specializes in tuning Vipers, adding more power to what is already one of the most powerful cars in the world. Hennessey’s Vipers have been featured in this and many other magazines and the cars he has sent to us and to other media were impressive performers. Hennessey presents himself well, projecting an image of the consummate Texas good ol’ boy whose reassuring conversational style and howyewdoin’ demeanor put customers at ease. People believe they will get what he says he’ll give them. But not all people do.
According to a lawsuit filed in Salt Lake City, Utah resident Taig Stewart sent his Viper GTS to Hennessey last May for an engine upgrade to 1100 hp along with several other modifications. For that he wire-transferred $142,500 to Hennessey. The lawsuit states the parties agreed the car would be done by mid-July 2001. As of press time the car was still sitting under a tarp in Hennessey’s shop in Houston. Or most of the car, anyway. Stewart’s suit claims Hennessey sold the car’s engine, transmission, wheels, tires and hood. The suit seeks return of the money, the Viper and “no less than $1 million” in punitive damages.

Hennessey claims he’s just slow in getting the work done.

“My side of the story is we’re planning on finishing his car and planning on giving him everything that he paid for,” said Hennessey. As for the parts being sold, “That’s totally false. We’ve got all his parts in the shop except the hood and he wanted to do a lightweight hood.”

Stewart is not the first unsatisfied customer. The longer we dug the more dissatisfaction we found. Here’s a sampling:


On Nov. 14 a New Jersey court entered a final judgement of $133,674 against Hennessey on behalf of Viper owner Gary Dan for a botched conversion.

William Walters said he is out over $22,000 after shipping his Corvette to Hennessey for a head and cam package that was never done; he did have five rods bent and a head gasket damaged on the dyno in Hennessey’s shop during an experiment Hennessey tried with nitrous oxide.

Jerry Johnson said he had to file suit in Placer County Court in California to straighten out registration and engine computer problems on a Viper he bought from Hennessey. n Jon Belinkie said he loves the changes made to his Viper but had to sue in his home state of Maryland, then register the judgement in Texas, to recover overcharges Hennessey made on his American Express card.

Rick Ryan said he had to hound Hennessey for eight months by long distance from Marietta, Georgia, to put the proper wing and stripes on his Viper.

Mark Lublin said he sent his Viper cylinder heads to Hennessey for new valves but when the heads came back he found the “new” valves were actually used; a cam that was delivered to Lublin in a Hennessey box turned out to be a stock Chrysler cam. Lublin was finally refunded $5,715 from American Express but only after nine months of disputing the charge; and he got no money from Hennessey.

Bruce Iannatuono said he ordered $8,500 worth of Hennessey parts for his mechanic in Baltimore to install but was only able to use two-thirds of what was shipped, and then only after haranguing Hennessey for six months on an order that was originally promised in five weeks.
Most of the complaints come from outside Texas. Hennessey, some said, tends to take better care of local customers.

“If you were out of state, man you were fair game,” said Kyle Kent, a former employee at Hennessey Motorsports. When an out-of-state car came in it was sometimes parted out, with the wheels, tires and whatever else looked good going to other cars waiting to be finished or sold outright, according to Kent and others inside Hennessey Motorsports. Then Hennessey would call the car’s owner and try to sell him an upgraded kit. If the customer balked, Hennessey would take parts from other cars in the shop, or just let the job sit.

Kent described one typical disassembly on an out-of-state Viper. “The motor and transmission went into a Durango John was putting together, the brakes went to someone else, the hood went to a guy in Ohio, the rear bumper to South Carolina, man you name it. We had multiple cars like that.”

Another common practice was putting stock parts on what was supposed to be an upgraded car.

“One customer spent $130,000 to $140,000 and that guy thought he had purchased a Venom 650R package which he thought came with the stroker motor,” Kent said. “John told him he was getting a stroker. He was just getting heads and cams.”

Hennessey denies any wrongdoing.

“I’ve got probably 3000 customers,” he said. “I’ve built over 300 cars and out of that I’ve had a handful of people that I’ve had some sort of a delivery problem with and I’ve had some of them who have sued me. So is that some sort of a trend or is that par for the course?”

Krush
07-17-2006, 01:41 AM
How about at least moving this post out of "performance" and into a more appropriate forum.

Krush
07-17-2006, 01:45 AM
Looks like Mr hennesey is in a bind......

Ya, I'm sure he's packing up shop as we speak.

HEMEEE
07-17-2006, 02:28 AM
How about at least moving this post out of "performance" and into a more appropriate forum.Done......

jayeepee
07-17-2006, 04:58 AM
I am sure some people on this forum would be interested in a specific response from Hennessey to 03AZRoush's allegations instead of threats of a lawsuit! I am not a business owner but it does not seem to be good business to have your customers arrested. My personal policy is to conduct all of my business dealings as if they are being taped and I would not care if someone was filming my words. Other vendors have been confronted with allegations such as these (some exhaust vendors come to mind) and have offered full refunds, not threats.

rrobello
07-17-2006, 05:02 AM
And now I get this private message from John Hennessey:
LEGAL ACTION

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I SUGGEST THAT YOU CHANGE OR DELETE YOUR POST TO REFLECT FACTS THAT YOU KNOW TO BE TRUE FROM YOUR OWN PERSONAL DEALINGS WITH ME OR HENNESSEY PERFORMANCE ENGINEERING.

IF YOU DO NOT DO THIS WITHIN 24 HRS THEN I WILL INSTRUCT OUR COMPANY ATTORNEY TO FILE A LAWSUIT AGAINST YOU AND THE FORUM OWNER / OPERATOR.

IF YOU FEEL THAT YOUR FACTS ARE CORRECT AND CAN AFFORD THE COST OF LITIGATION THEN MORE POWER TO YOU.

JOHN HENNESSEY, PRESIDENT
HENNESSEY PERFORMANCE ENGINEERING


Actually I believe you will have no case against him at all even if none of this stuff is true because he didnt acuse you of anything. He simply stated he had heard some bad things about you and your company and would like for you to refute them if they werent true. He is only trying to get answers for himself and everyone else on here that might be wondering the same thing and trying to let the truth be known, whatever that may be. All you had to do was refute the statements made by your previous clients against you and I think he would've been happy with that response, but you didnt and instead got threatened and took very serious action against his inquiry. This to me suggests only that the statements made against you are true. I hope that if you do decide to sue him that not only you lose the case (for no slander was done here) but that he be awarded compensation for his attorney fees and his time that you will have wasted and that he then turn around and slap you with a law suit for filing a frodulant law suit against him and have at the very least the truth finally be revealed to everyone and perhaps your company shut down.

mlssoc3
07-17-2006, 07:21 AM
i just think he's on something he shouldnt be on which i wont say for him even thinking about selling a kit for $10,000 . i told my friend who is a turbo charger specailist about how much he is selling the kit for and he said the same thing. He's making about a good 5000-7000 or even more profit off of who ever buys that kit, especailly if hes selling the kit for that much not even installed!!!! something is deff wrong with that situation!!!

Logan
07-17-2006, 09:12 AM
...all I can say is... "Need I say more"...

...even his reaction to criticism and observations is enough to drive people to run the other direction.

...it's only slanderous and libelous if someone were making unfounded accusations... The lawsuits and awards against Hennessey are a matter of public regard and well, found truthful in a court of law.

Again, don't know him from Adam, but public record and his online reputation is hard to ignore.

radduc
07-17-2006, 09:47 AM
I am soooo glad I read this thread.I was going to send him my jeep once I saw the performance #'s. But after hearing everything said he sounds like a real pice of s*#t. I will stick with the good guys at GS Motorsports.Thanks guys,you saved me a bunch of $ and head aches

Krush
07-17-2006, 09:54 AM
i just think he's on something he shouldnt be on which i wont say for him even thinking about selling a kit for $10,000 . i told my friend who is a turbo charger specailist about how much he is selling the kit for and he said the same thing. He's making about a good 5000-7000 or even more profit off of who ever buys that kit, especially if hes selling the kit for that much not even installed!!!! something is deff wrong with that situation!!!

WOW! You can buy a turbo, waste gate, Intercooler, 3.5 in. polished inlet tube with Blow-Off Valve, full exhaust (including headers), upgraded forged pistons, upgraded forged steel connecting rods, coated rod bearings , ported & polished cylinder heads (flowing 360+ CFM on intake valve) with polished combustion chambers , with a upgraded fuel system including pump, AND get balanced & blueprinted assembly from a proven performance builder for 3 to 5 grand! Dude tell me where to get this!

My point is not to say that Hennessey is not a crook, I don't know that, I've never personally done business with him, but don't just slander him (or anyone) because you don't like him. When you look at what the kit includes, 10 grand is far from outrageous, and we don't even know that it's 10 grand, maybe it's 20. If this thread is going to be nothing but a "we hate Hennessey" party, then it does no one any good. If you have legit information and have done your homework (like actually looking at what the turbo kit included before calling it a rip off) then please let all of use know so we can make informed purchases, but let's try and be informative rather than slanderous (hateful).

jms935
07-17-2006, 10:07 AM
Well said Krush.

echo412
07-17-2006, 11:57 AM
John,

As I mentioned in the email. Since we have no first hand knowledge of your previous transactions we will not take action.

We feel it is our users' right to post concerns regarding the history of businesses, wether they be supporting vendors or not. If you feel the statements are libelous or slanderous, I would advise taking that issue up with the original posters.

While I feel you have been a great vendor on our forums during your stay with us, I cannot simply remove posts or threads that our users' post about your past because you want me to.

Props to admins. No favoritism towards anybody.

El Jefe
07-17-2006, 12:03 PM
The only reason I posted those quotes was because I didnt want anyone here to get screwed out of thousands of dollars like hes done to people before. By the looks of it, it sounds like theres at least 4 guys backing out on this deal that were ready to send their car to him. In no way am I saying he cant put together one amazing Viper. I love the Venom 1000. Its one of my favorite cars. Ive got it as the background pic on my phone. But after researching it and the company, this is what I came up with. Im just saying people should do some research on things like this.

Its just like ebay. Youre not going to buy something from someone with feedback rating of 50%, thats just stupid. Youre more than likely to get screwed over. With his feedback record....Well Ill let you guys decide.
Ya he does have tons of appreciative customers but what about the ones suing him? You cant ignore things like that.

I didnt make any of this up. Im forwarding all this info on from other message boards. Mainly the Viper Club of America'' website. I would of posted the direct links to where I got all those quotes but because im a farely new member it wont let me post links.

Krush
07-17-2006, 12:17 PM
The only reason I posted those quotes was because I didnt want anyone here to get screwed out of thousands of dollars like hes done to people before. By the looks of it, it sounds like theres at least 4 guys backing out on this deal that were ready to send their car to him. In no way am I saying he cant put together one amazing Viper. I love the Venom 1000. Its one of my favorite cars. Ive got it as the background pic on my phone. But after researching it and the company, this is what I came up with. Im just saying people should do some research on things like this.

Its just like ebay. Youre not going to buy something from someone with feedback rating of 50%, thats just stupid. Youre more than likely to get screwed over. With his feedback record....Well Ill let you guys decide.
Ya he does have tons of appreciative customers but what about the ones suing him? You cant ignore things like that.

I didnt make any of this up. Im forwarding all this info on from other message boards. Mainly the Viper Club of America'' website. I would of posted the direct links to where I got all those quotes but because im a farely new member it wont let me post links.

I have no problem with your posts AZ. You've done your homework on this and presented you posts well, stating where you've acquired your information and let the information speak for itself. Posts like that are definitely appreciated.

El Jefe
07-17-2006, 01:25 PM
Yet another reliable source, Car and Driver Published this in Sept 2002:

"There is, of course, no place in the world where talk is cheaper than on an Internet message board, and a few lurid posts hardly constitute proof of wrongdoing. So I went to the Web site of the Houston Better Business Bureau (www. bbbhou.org) and searched for Hennessey Motorsports. The BBB reported 12 complaints filed against Hennessey in the past 36 months, of which seven were in the past year. Of the 12 complaints, only one was listed as resolved. To put this performance in context, I ran checks with the local BBBs of every participant in our Supercar Challenge. Just one other complaint turned up, against AutoThority, and it was described as "resolved."

Then I went to Dun & Bradstreet, the financial research firm, where for $117 I purchased a comprehensive report on Hennessey Motorsports. For comparison, I also purchased a report on the well-known Lingenfelter Performance Engineering. The report indicated that LPE was financially sound, with no liens, lawsuits, or judgments pending against it. In contrast, the Hennessey report revealed that courts have four times ruled against the company and that there are 10 lawsuits currently in various stages and three liens. The D&B report also provided a "Financial Stress National Percentile" rating, measured on a 1-to-100 scale, with 100 being the best possible score. Hennessey's company had a rating of one. (LPE had a 79.) "

Beltfed
07-17-2006, 01:30 PM
I used to have a Viper GTS, got it from the great Bill P. (Woodhouse).

Anyway, I remember reading all the negative press about John H back in the day.

There was actually a document someone posted pertaining to a whole slew of either lawsuits or issues that J.H. had with a variety of companies.

Big shipping carriers and what not from what I remember.

I'm as unbiased as they come, only did a few mods (most came from Woodhouse).

El Jefe
07-17-2006, 01:35 PM
I think this is what youre talking about:
It gets even better.

Check this out.

http://www.cclerk.hctx.net/coolice/default.asp?Category=CCCourtAtLaw&Service=cc_inquiry

put in Hennessey in the bottom box, and click the button for defendant, and click inquiry.

UPS, FedEx and tons of other lawfirms....

Beltfed
07-17-2006, 01:41 PM
Yup, that would be it..........or something very similar.

ResumeSpeed
07-17-2006, 02:05 PM
I think this is what youre talking about:
It gets even better.

Check this out.

http://www.cclerk.hctx.net/coolice/default.asp?Category=CCCourtAtLaw&Service=cc_inquiry

put in Hennessey in the bottom box, and click the button for defendant, and click inquiry.

UPS, FedEx and tons of other lawfirms....

Gasp! I find it hard to believe that ANYONE would still do business with him.

ge2
07-17-2006, 02:05 PM
Good read here folks. Very good read. I'll keep up on it as it continues to roll along. Now to add my petty .02$ in........

1) it would be libel, John.... not slander. Slander is vocal, libel is written/published. Before threatening law, it's best to know a few details about it :)

2) as much as it may tick people off, there is no free speech law here. This is a privately owned site, and although it's free for us to use, this site does not fall under any law that guarantees you freedom of speech.

This pesky little line in the bottom of the TOS is something that I'm sure most people overlook when registering......
"The owners of Cherokee SRT8 Forum reserve the right to remove, edit, move or close any thread for any reason."

happycamper
07-17-2006, 06:09 PM
I refute all that BS. I refute the moderators and site owner/operator for allowing harrassing and unsubstaniated bs with no first hand knowledge to be posted on here. it is slanderous and libelous.

and we will hold any such person or business accountable for stating or allowing this to happen or continue to happen.

John Hennessey
Hennessey Performance Engineering


Truth HURT!!!! dont cry about it, Youv'e been pulling the wool over people's eyes for years and its finally catching up to ya. Its called CARMA

zen garage
07-17-2006, 06:32 PM
Man, I cant swing a dead cat today without seeing the Hennessey name. Holy crap, there are threads on every forum I visit today regarding his past. There are threads at srtoc, chargerforums,300cforums,here,viperclub and I havent check the ram srt site yet.
I have only had a few dealings with John so I will not comment either way. But if my business had that many lawsuits filed against me, I would rethink what I was doing. It only takes pissing off the wrong person to end up in the trunk of an eldorado down by the river!

Logan
07-17-2006, 06:39 PM
...Its called CARMA


Actually, it's Karma, but don't mind me, I'm a bit anal like that. :p

happycamper
07-17-2006, 06:45 PM
Actually, it's Karma, but don't mind me, I'm a bit anal like that. :p
Damn I knew it started with a K, thanks for the confirmation !!!lol:D

JayC
07-17-2006, 07:07 PM
ported & polished cylinder heads (flowing 360+ CFM on intake valve) with polished combustion chambers

Im good friends with the head porter Hennessey uses.. he doesn't work cheap :)

Course, IMO he's one of the best head porters Ive seen in my 20 years or so working on high performance vehicles so I guess he doesnt have to work cheap either.

happycamper
07-17-2006, 07:12 PM
Hey Zen, have you sold your charger yet, saw pics of your gcsrt8 looks bad azz.

FordRacing200
07-17-2006, 07:48 PM
how come hennessey hasn't commented? I'm waiting for him to deny all these accusations or provide explanations.

zen garage
07-17-2006, 08:01 PM
still have my gcsrt, charger srt, viper srt and ram srt.

i have never seen 58 people viewing this forum before, i must say hennessey has boosted something although probably not his cars

happycamper
07-17-2006, 08:16 PM
still have my gcsrt, charger srt, viper srt and ram srt.

i have never seen 58 people viewing this forum before, i must say hennessey has boosted something although probably not his cars

LMAO:D :D :D

John Hennessey
07-17-2006, 08:31 PM
how come hennessey hasn't commented? I'm waiting for him to deny all these accusations or provide explanations.

WHAT IS THERE TO COMMENT ON? WE NO LONGER GIVE MONEY TO JOHN GONZALES AKA EKOOL. WE HAVE A SHOP FULL OF SRT8 VEHICLES INCLUDING A 600 RW HP CHARGER AND A TURBO JEEP SRT8.

WE HAVE MANY SRT8 CUSTOMERS AND DO A GOOD JOB FOR THEM.

SO FAR THERE HAS NOT BEEN ANYTHING NEGATIVE SAID ABOUT FROM ANY SRT8 OR HEMI CUSTOMER WHO HAS DONE BUSINESS WITH OUR FIRM. LAST MONTH WE DID OVER $100K WORTH OF BUSINESS IN THE HEMI MARKET ALONE.

I AM NOT HAPPY THAT JOHN GONZALES AKA EKOOL ALLOWED A LIBELOUS POST TO BE MADE ABOUT ME AND THE COMPANY. IT HAS BEEN HURTFUL TO OUR BUSINESS. WE WILL TAKE THE NECESSARY ACTION TO DEFEND AND PROTECT OUR REPUTATION AND THE GOOD WORK WE HAVE DONE FOR OUR HEMI CUSTOMERS.

I WAS VERY UP FRONT WITH JOHN GONZALES AKA EKOOL ABOUT HIM NOT ENFORCING HIS OWN SITE POLICIES AGAINST VENDOR BASHING. HE SAID IT WAS NOT HIS JOB TO VERIFY FACTS IN SOMEONE ELSES POST. AND ANYONE CAN COME ON HERE AND SAY ANYTHING ABOUT ANYBODY, DO A BUNCH OF CUT AND PASTE FROM INTERNET STORIES FROM 5 YRS AGO, ETC ETC. YES THIS IS A FREE COUNTRY AND YOU CAN HAVE ALL THE FREE SPEACH YOU WANT. UNTIL YOU HARM SOMEONE, THEIR REPUTATION AND THEIR BUSINESS.

AT THIS POINT, I WILL JUST SAY THAT I WILL DO ALL TO HELP AND SUPPORT ANY HEMI OWNER, WHETHER THEY SPEND MONEY WITH ME OR NOT.

SECOND, I WILL DO WHAT IS NECESSARY TO MAKE SURE THAT INDIVIDUALS AND WEBSITES WHO TRY TO HARM OUR BUSINESS ARE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS. AS SOMEBODY ONCE SAID, "FREE SPEACH IS FREE UNTIL SOMEBODY HAS TO PAY A LAWYER TO DEFEND THEMSELVES IN A LIBEL LAWSUIT".

JOHN HENNESSEY, PRESIDENT
HENNESSEY PERFORMANCE ENGINEERING

1bad4dr
07-17-2006, 08:35 PM
Let's just say me and a freind witnessed an SRT550 Charger that was having its engine pulled apart from a different shop (than Hennessey) because the car owner complained that there wasn't the hp gain that comes with the 550 upgrade.... Engine is cracked open and to my shock the heads and intake were not ported, the pistons were not forged...... And I am quite sure that the rings, valves, lifters...blah blah were not replaced as advertised.... No wonder the owner complained of no hp gains... The only thing the car got was LT headers, exhaust, CAI, and a very expensive pair of floor mats and SRT550 emblems... OUCH!!! I was not suppose to see this car, but I walked into the shop when they were cracking open the engine.... Of course I noticed immediately that the pistons were bone stock and noticed the SRT550 emblems. I had to ask questions.....

You be the judge.

happycamper
07-17-2006, 08:41 PM
WHAT IS THERE TO COMMENT ON? WE NO LONGER GIVE MONEY TO JOHN GONZALES AKA EKOOL. WE HAVE A SHOP FULL OF SRT8 VEHICLES INCLUDING A 600 RW HP CHARGER AND A TURBO JEEP SRT8.

WE HAVE MANY SRT8 CUSTOMERS AND DO A GOOD JOB FOR THEM.

SO FAR THERE HAS NOT BEEN ANYTHING NEGATIVE SAID ABOUT FROM ANY SRT8 OR HEMI CUSTOMER WHO HAS DONE BUSINESS WITH OUR FIRM. LAST MONTH WE DID OVER $100K WORTH OF BUSINESS IN THE HEMI MARKET ALONE.

I AM NOT HAPPY THAT JOHN GONZALES AKA EKOOL ALLOWED A LIBELOUS POST TO BE MADE ABOUT ME AND THE COMPANY. IT HAS BEEN HURTFUL TO OUR BUSINESS. WE WILL TAKE THE NECESSARY ACTION TO DEFEND AND PROTECT OUR REPUTATION AND THE GOOD WORK WE HAVE DONE FOR OUR HEMI CUSTOMERS.

I WAS VERY UP FRONT WITH JOHN GONZALES AKA EKOOL ABOUT HIM NOT ENFORCING HIS OWN SITE POLICIES AGAINST VENDOR BASHING. HE SAID IT WAS NOT HIS JOB TO VERIFY FACTS IN SOMEONE ELSES POST. AND ANYONE CAN COME ON HERE AND SAY ANYTHING ABOUT ANYBODY, DO A BUNCH OF CUT AND PASTE FROM INTERNET STORIES FROM 5 YRS AGO, ETC ETC. YES THIS IS A FREE COUNTRY AND YOU CAN HAVE ALL THE FREE SPEACH YOU WANT. UNTIL YOU HARM SOMEONE, THEIR REPUTATION AND THEIR BUSINESS.

AT THIS POINT, I WILL JUST SAY THAT I WILL DO ALL TO HELP AND SUPPORT ANY HEMI OWNER, WHETHER THEY SPEND MONEY WITH ME OR NOT.

SECOND, I WILL DO WHAT IS NECESSARY TO MAKE SURE THAT INDIVIDUALS AND WEBSITES WHO TRY TO HARM OUR BUSINESS ARE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS. AS SOMEBODY ONCE SAID, "FREE SPEACH IS FREE UNTIL SOMEBODY HAS TO PAY A LAWYER TO DEFEND THEMSELVES IN A LIBEL LAWSUIT".

JOHN HENNESSEY, PRESIDENT
HENNESSEY PERFORMANCE ENGINEERING:rolleyes: :rolleyes: So you are saying that everything is a LIE. Tell us all OBY 1!!!Luke skywalker and the hole Empire is all EARS.

ekool
07-17-2006, 08:47 PM
I WAS VERY UP FRONT WITH JOHN GONZALES AKA EKOOL ABOUT HIM NOT ENFORCING HIS OWN SITE POLICIES AGAINST VENDOR BASHING. HE SAID IT WAS NOT HIS JOB TO VERIFY FACTS IN SOMEONE ELSES POST. AND ANYONE CAN COME ON HERE AND SAY ANYTHING ABOUT ANYBODY, DO A BUNCH OF CUT AND PASTE FROM INTERNET STORIES FROM 5 YRS AGO, ETC ETC. YES THIS IS A FREE COUNTRY AND YOU CAN HAVE ALL THE FREE SPEACH YOU WANT. UNTIL YOU HARM SOMEONE, THEIR REPUTATION AND THEIR BUSINESS.

John,

I would appreciate it if you would not put words into my mouth or tell people that I said things that I did not say.

First of all, we have no policy against vendor bashing. We do have a rule on SOME sites (but not this one) against vendor harrassment, however this did not fall under that rule.

Our policy is that you specifically CAN say negative things about a vendor, because that is how future customers can base their buying decisions. We wouldnt be running a very fair system is we only allowed positive things to be said about a vendor. While we hope our supporting vendors make a positive impression on every customer, I realize that is not always possible so the avenue for the user to express their displeasure must remain.

Here is the excerpt from the email that I sent you which does not contain what you have said above, nor is it even the same sentiment.

Below is the exact content of the email I sent you when we declined to remove this thread.


I'm not in a position to validate the validity of the post, and it is our policy that negative posts can remain. We draw the line at vendor harrassment, but from where I am sitting that line has not yet been crossed. It seems that when you start advertising on any of our forums, we have a few negative posts and then things calm down and you are able to win customers. If we sweep everything under the rug, I dont think we can ever get to that point -- i think instead, it will blow up in our faces and continue to get worse.

If you feel you are not getting your money's worth @ SRT10forum.com we would be willing to either lower the price with you, and if you are still not getting your monies worth you are free to cancel. You arent tied to any of these forums and I would suggest only spending your advertising dollars where it makes sense.

I always try to remain unbiased in my dealings with vendors and users on the forum and we have a policy that I think is fair to all parties involved (forum users and vendors) -- and we stand behind it.

I am sorry that you feel the need to out and out LIE (I guess that could also be considered libelous --- but i dont like to throw around threats of lawsuits) about our conversation.

happycamper
07-17-2006, 08:54 PM
WHAT IS THERE TO COMMENT ON? WE NO LONGER GIVE MONEY TO JOHN GONZALES AKA EKOOL. WE HAVE A SHOP FULL OF SRT8 VEHICLES INCLUDING A 600 RW HP CHARGER AND A TURBO JEEP SRT8.

WE HAVE MANY SRT8 CUSTOMERS AND DO A GOOD JOB FOR THEM.

SO FAR THERE HAS NOT BEEN ANYTHING NEGATIVE SAID ABOUT FROM ANY SRT8 OR HEMI CUSTOMER WHO HAS DONE BUSINESS WITH OUR FIRM. LAST MONTH WE DID OVER $100K WORTH OF BUSINESS IN THE HEMI MARKET ALONE.

I AM NOT HAPPY THAT JOHN GONZALES AKA EKOOL ALLOWED A LIBELOUS POST TO BE MADE ABOUT ME AND THE COMPANY. IT HAS BEEN HURTFUL TO OUR BUSINESS. WE WILL TAKE THE NECESSARY ACTION TO DEFEND AND PROTECT OUR REPUTATION AND THE GOOD WORK WE HAVE DONE FOR OUR HEMI CUSTOMERS.

I WAS VERY UP FRONT WITH JOHN GONZALES AKA EKOOL ABOUT HIM NOT ENFORCING HIS OWN SITE POLICIES AGAINST VENDOR BASHING. HE SAID IT WAS NOT HIS JOB TO VERIFY FACTS IN SOMEONE ELSES POST. AND ANYONE CAN COME ON HERE AND SAY ANYTHING ABOUT ANYBODY, DO A BUNCH OF CUT AND PASTE FROM INTERNET STORIES FROM 5 YRS AGO, ETC ETC. YES THIS IS A FREE COUNTRY AND YOU CAN HAVE ALL THE FREE SPEACH YOU WANT. UNTIL YOU HARM SOMEONE, THEIR REPUTATION AND THEIR BUSINESS.

AT THIS POINT, I WILL JUST SAY THAT I WILL DO ALL TO HELP AND SUPPORT ANY HEMI OWNER, WHETHER THEY SPEND MONEY WITH ME OR NOT.

SECOND, I WILL DO WHAT IS NECESSARY TO MAKE SURE THAT INDIVIDUALS AND WEBSITES WHO TRY TO HARM OUR BUSINESS ARE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS. AS SOMEBODY ONCE SAID, "FREE SPEACH IS FREE UNTIL SOMEBODY HAS TO PAY A LAWYER TO DEFEND THEMSELVES IN A LIBEL LAWSUIT".

JOHN HENNESSEY, PRESIDENT
HENNESSEY PERFORMANCE ENGINEERING

Are these stories false or true? Just curious

Krush
07-17-2006, 08:56 PM
JOHN GONZALES AKA EKOOL

So that's who's behind the red curtain pulling all the levers. :eek:

happycamper
07-17-2006, 09:13 PM
Boy Im sure a HAPPY CAMPER tonight!!!!!!! the stars are a shining bright

1bad4dr
07-17-2006, 09:15 PM
Boy Im sure a HAPPY CAMPER tonight!!!!!!! the stars are a shining bright
LMAO Watch out for the lightning.... Happy Gilmore is more like it.. lol

El Jefe
07-17-2006, 11:10 PM
John,
The only reason I even posted in the thread was asking you to shed some light on previous claims made from clients of yours. In no way were they attacks on your business or you as a person. I was simply asking if they were true. These claims were all made by customes. OTHER PEOPLE. NOT ME. I spent less than an hour last night researching Hennessey. The only reason I did that was because my friend, who has an SRT8, was basically set on buying your turbo kit. After finding these dissatisfied(to say the least) customers and their horrow stories theres no way I could refer you business. In no way was my post an attack on your company. Im my reading last night I found numerous ecstatic customers who did nothing but praise you and your teams work. I have pictures all over my computer and room of the Venom 1000. Its one of the most unbelievable cars Ive ever seen.
I simply asked you to "shed some light" on the accusations and all you could do was threaten me with a lawsuit. What does that say about you and your company? History has shown us that we cant trust you.

John Hennessey
07-17-2006, 11:46 PM
when did you stop beating your wife? when did you stop masturbating in the shower?

some questions dont deserve answers. if you or anyone else does not want to do business with us then thats your choice.

happycamper
07-17-2006, 11:54 PM
when did you stop beating your wife? when did you stop masturbating in the shower?
some questions dont deserve answers. if you or anyone else does not want to do business with us then thats your choice. Some question's dont deserve answers? when your rep in on the line, I think it does. But that is your choice. Oh and I still beat off in the shower:p

lindy9
07-18-2006, 02:02 AM
john hennessey why dont you pay the people back the money instead of calling the cops i have no reason to disbelieve there story

HEMEEE
07-18-2006, 04:29 AM
when did you stop beating your wife? when did you stop masturbating in the shower?

some questions dont deserve answers. if you or anyone else does not want to do business with us then thats your choice.John,
Vulgarity is a very poor choice when you are attempting to make a point and offending readers will do absolutely nothing to strengthen your credibility or gain you respect.
You certainly lost mine the first time you used this same line (http://www.300cforums.com/forums/189648-post29.html) at 300cforums.

Please keep it clean.

barho
07-18-2006, 07:11 AM
Mr Henessey - No offense, but I have NEVER even heard of you until I saw you on this forum. So.....if you ask me, you should probably stop coming off overly defensive (which is a true sign there has been previous issues with at least SOME of your clients), and start to refute these accusations.

Not doing so makes those that have only just heard of you, not care to do business with your organization. And you, as a business man, should understand, the only way to grow a business is to bring in new customers. Bashing others in a forum of the very vehicle owners you are trying to reach, doesn't make very good business sense. ;)

ge2
07-18-2006, 09:09 AM
when did you stop beating your wife? when did you stop masturbating in the shower?

some questions dont deserve answers. if you or anyone else does not want to do business with us then thats your choice.


Any legal foothold you thought you had, John, just disappeared into a thick cloud of brown smoke.

FordRacing200
07-18-2006, 10:06 AM
when did you stop beating your wife? when did you stop masturbating in the shower?

some questions dont deserve answers. if you or anyone else does not want to do business with us then thats your choice.
hahahahahahahhahah where'd they teach you common business practice, wal-mart parking lot? hahahah you're such a tool. Masturbating in the shower? thats original. I'll tell you what, you come out to sonics in houstons and i'll round up everyone you ripped off and then we'll all have a good chat (on camera) about these statements, hows that sound?

FordRacing200
07-18-2006, 10:14 AM
WHAT IS THERE TO COMMENT ON? WE NO LONGER GIVE MONEY TO JOHN GONZALES AKA EKOOL. WE HAVE A SHOP FULL OF SRT8 VEHICLES INCLUDING A 600 RW HP CHARGER AND A TURBO JEEP SRT8.

WE HAVE MANY SRT8 CUSTOMERS AND DO A GOOD JOB FOR THEM.

SO FAR THERE HAS NOT BEEN ANYTHING NEGATIVE SAID ABOUT FROM ANY SRT8 OR HEMI CUSTOMER WHO HAS DONE BUSINESS WITH OUR FIRM. LAST MONTH WE DID OVER $100K WORTH OF BUSINESS IN THE HEMI MARKET ALONE.

I AM NOT HAPPY THAT JOHN GONZALES AKA EKOOL ALLOWED A LIBELOUS POST TO BE MADE ABOUT ME AND THE COMPANY. IT HAS BEEN HURTFUL TO OUR BUSINESS. WE WILL TAKE THE NECESSARY ACTION TO DEFEND AND PROTECT OUR REPUTATION AND THE GOOD WORK WE HAVE DONE FOR OUR HEMI CUSTOMERS.

I WAS VERY UP FRONT WITH JOHN GONZALES AKA EKOOL ABOUT HIM NOT ENFORCING HIS OWN SITE POLICIES AGAINST VENDOR BASHING. HE SAID IT WAS NOT HIS JOB TO VERIFY FACTS IN SOMEONE ELSES POST. AND ANYONE CAN COME ON HERE AND SAY ANYTHING ABOUT ANYBODY, DO A BUNCH OF CUT AND PASTE FROM INTERNET STORIES FROM 5 YRS AGO, ETC ETC. YES THIS IS A FREE COUNTRY AND YOU CAN HAVE ALL THE FREE SPEACH YOU WANT. UNTIL YOU HARM SOMEONE, THEIR REPUTATION AND THEIR BUSINESS.

AT THIS POINT, I WILL JUST SAY THAT I WILL DO ALL TO HELP AND SUPPORT ANY HEMI OWNER, WHETHER THEY SPEND MONEY WITH ME OR NOT.

SECOND, I WILL DO WHAT IS NECESSARY TO MAKE SURE THAT INDIVIDUALS AND WEBSITES WHO TRY TO HARM OUR BUSINESS ARE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS. AS SOMEBODY ONCE SAID, "FREE SPEACH IS FREE UNTIL SOMEBODY HAS TO PAY A LAWYER TO DEFEND THEMSELVES IN A LIBEL LAWSUIT".

JOHN HENNESSEY, PRESIDENT
HENNESSEY PERFORMANCE ENGINEERING
I've got 3 words for you pal, KISS-MY-ASS :D
BTW since you're so fauking blind, you're supposed to comment on this:
Ive heard a lot of negative things about Hennessey lately. The only reason im bringing it up is because Im sure some of the GCSRT8 guys wouldnt want this to happen to them.
Shed some light on these statements by customers:

"Hennessey is a fraud, as if not delivering cars on time wasn't bad enough, if my memory serves correctly, many of the cars he had sent to journalists and magazines for testing have been plagued with reliability issues, some of them puking during shake down runs, not even lasting long enough to be properly tested"

"I am sure many of you know who John Hennessey is? He is a reputable performance car builder who has built several "legendary" Viper, Corvette, and some other vehicles. But he is also known for scamming some rich folks. Many has warned to stay away from him. Hennessey have been sued by FedEX, UPS, and past clients for unpaid debts"

"Hennessey has a tendency to take the vehicle and the cash, and then never give the vehicle back. Or if he does, nothing has been done to it. I read one account where Hennessey pulled parts off a guy's Viper, sold the parts, and then put the car in the corner of his shop and never touched it again"

"Come on! Isn't it obvious to everyone out there yet? Hennessey scams the little guys and the out of staters who are less likely to show up at his door with a bat and sucks up in a major league way to the magazines. They're free advertising for him! Of course he builds great cars for the reviews"

"This point is almost not worth talking about anymore, but since it was brought up here goes. I have found John to be a crook, liar and have the worst customer service I have ever witnessed in any company. Can he build a fast car? Of course. With a competent staff most shops can. Does he have his customers best interests at heart? Just listen to so many of his former customers and you will know the answer. Does he know how to get his face in the mags? It's the one thing he's personally good at. Hopefully due process will take over and HMS will be a thing of the past."

Hennessey Has Customer Arrested:
"This tops it all Viper fans.... I'm the customer of John Hennessey's that paid for a Venom 650 package plus Brembo Racing brakes, a Penske 2 way suspension , and roll bar but only received about $11,000 of a $38,000 order in an 8 month span. I know you all are tired of the posts but please read on, it gets pretty interesting.
I planned a trip to California for pleasure on a private jet and was told we had to stop in Houston for fuel so I thought I might stop in at HMS to see for myself the man that ripped me off and what his plans to settle up were face to face. I called ahead of time and left a message under a different name as a new customer so John would show up, when we got there his mechanic said to come back in an hour so we went for lunch and came
Back. I brought a video camera so I could get the meeting on tape, when John showed up he saw new customers and $$$$$ so he put on his "Good Ole Boy" smile and welcomed us in. Once inside he notice the camera and asked me to turn it off , I said no and then told him who I really was and that I wanted a straight up answer what he planned to do. You should have seen his face, like deer in headlights he had nothing to say except get out or he would call the police. I refused and demanded an answer but John just stood there like a gutless man and would not talk and called the cops for trespassing. So after repeated non-threatening attempts to get him to talk he asked me and my brother-in-law if we were gay , I replied "Yeah and I'm gonna throw you over that car and f*ck you up the azz like you have been f*cking me for 8 months" , little did I know that comment would be considered a "TERRORISTIC THREAT" , (one of John famous claims) anyway we decided to wait for the police so I could report him for theft , we waited 40 minutes for the cops to come and when they finally came I ran out of tape in the camera and missed the most unbelievable part. The cop listened to John’s side of the story first and said he would hear us after, that didn't happen once John told him about the so-called "Terroristic Treat" within minutes we were both in cuffs in the back of the police car under arrest for trespassing and terroristic threat. The cop would not hear our side and told us we were going to jail and wouldn't even watch the tape, we tried to reason with him but his last name was Walker and he thought he was Chuck Norris Texas Ranger," you’re in cuffs, in my car, I'm writing, and you’re goin to jail". After sitting outside HMS in cuffs for over 30 minutes we were on our way to the Houston City Jail, my camera was taken by the arresting office and we were sent to booking. Two white boys from Florida with a Bullshit arrest , we were shuffled around , stripped of our belongings , finger printed and sent to a holding cell full of non- white- non Florida boys that were all under arrest for real crimes , drug dealers , buyers , thieves , assault , and a murderer to top it off. After 10 hours in jail and a few phone calls later we posted bail for $1,500 and back on the street at 2 in the morning with an impounded rental
Car, no change of clothes and no bed. It is now 12:30 pm and we are in flight to California looking back at the day and planning our next trip back to Houston. We went from the Penthouse to the Shithouse in less than 3 hours but now were back in the Penthouse and Hennessey bought some time but the fact remains Johnny still owes $27,000 and if it costs me 10 times that in lawyer fees I will make sure Hennessey gets the same smelly *** cell that I got.

P.S. "Mr. Crack sellin Murderer what do you do when a fat little red headed Viper tuner thief gets put in YOUR holding cell? (In my best Chris Rock voice) The first thing I do is make ‘em TOSS MY SALAD!!!

What do you prefer John? Jelly or Syrup..?????"

Go to Viper Club of America and type in Hennessey in the search and read all the stories...If youre thinking about getting this Hennessey turbo kit Id definitely read up on some of these stories...

HEMEEE
07-18-2006, 10:42 AM
Please keep the discussion civil, points can be made without stooping to personal attacks.

Untouchable
07-18-2006, 10:52 AM
when did you stop beating your wife? when did you stop masturbating in the shower?

some questions dont deserve answers. if you or anyone else does not want to do business with us then thats your choice.



can I forward that line to Motor Trend, Car and Driver, and Road and Track

El Jefe
07-18-2006, 11:31 AM
Please keep the discussion civil, points can be made without stooping to personal attacks.
Well John just accused me of beating my wife...

1bad4dr
07-18-2006, 11:35 AM
Well John just accused me of beating my wife...
Yes, but HEMEE did make a statement there after to Mr Hennessey about those uncalled for comments.

Let's not stoop to his level of unprofessionalism and immaturity. :)

El Jefe
07-18-2006, 11:46 AM
I wouldnt be surprised if Hemee gets a pm too. Oh well I guess I proved my point here.

FordRacing200
07-18-2006, 11:49 AM
can I forward that line to Motor Trend, Car and Driver, and Road and Track
well he did say it...so theirfore its a public qoute...I don't see why not.

El Jefe
07-18-2006, 05:08 PM
screw it. I dont feel like beating on a dead dog when its down

Nevermind, theres some good stuff in this thread too:
http://www.srt10forum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9525

k-80-123 writes on March 14,2006
"HPE/John Hennessey my patients are running thin .....We have been through several deadlines the last one was Feb-28th 2006.....And you still do not have my truck finished...please let me know when you would like me visit you in Houston so we can look over the finished product.....I am ready to make my final payment to you and take delivery of my truck....consider this a gentle nudge.

Walt"

JH writes back
"come fly down on friday. consider this a gentle answer."
and later
"I WILL CLOSE THE DOORS BEFORE I EVER CARE IF I EVER GET ANOTHER INTERNET CUSTOMER. ACTUALLY I THINK I AM GOING TO RAISE MY PRICES 10% JUST BECAUSE THE INTERNET IS PISSING ME OFF TONITE."

FordRacing200
07-18-2006, 07:12 PM
close the doors will he? that'd be a god-send, thanks John!

Logan
07-18-2006, 07:39 PM
I think the Harris County website showing the 40+ lawsuits against him and his company over the last 5 or 6 years says everything you need it to... and it's a matter of public record.

speedracer2169
07-18-2006, 08:31 PM
Ive heard a lot of negative things about Hennessey lately. The only reason im bringing it up is because Im sure some of the GCSRT8 guys wouldnt want this to happen to them.
Shed some light on these statements by customers:

"Hennessey is a fraud, as if not delivering cars on time wasn't bad enough, if my memory serves correctly, many of the cars he had sent to journalists and magazines for testing have been plagued with reliability issues, some of them puking during shake down runs, not even lasting long enough to be properly tested"

"I am sure many of you know who John Hennessey is? He is a reputable performance car builder who has built several "legendary" Viper, Corvette, and some other vehicles. But he is also known for scamming some rich folks. Many has warned to stay away from him. Hennessey have been sued by FedEX, UPS, and past clients for unpaid debts"

"Hennessey has a tendency to take the vehicle and the cash, and then never give the vehicle back. Or if he does, nothing has been done to it. I read one account where Hennessey pulled parts off a guy's Viper, sold the parts, and then put the car in the corner of his shop and never touched it again"

"Come on! Isn't it obvious to everyone out there yet? Hennessey scams the little guys and the out of staters who are less likely to show up at his door with a bat and sucks up in a major league way to the magazines. They're free advertising for him! Of course he builds great cars for the reviews"

"This point is almost not worth talking about anymore, but since it was brought up here goes. I have found John to be a crook, liar and have the worst customer service I have ever witnessed in any company. Can he build a fast car? Of course. With a competent staff most shops can. Does he have his customers best interests at heart? Just listen to so many of his former customers and you will know the answer. Does he know how to get his face in the mags? It's the one thing he's personally good at. Hopefully due process will take over and HMS will be a thing of the past."

Hennessey Has Customer Arrested:
"This tops it all Viper fans.... I'm the customer of John Hennessey's that paid for a Venom 650 package plus Brembo Racing brakes, a Penske 2 way suspension , and roll bar but only received about $11,000 of a $38,000 order in an 8 month span. I know you all are tired of the posts but please read on, it gets pretty interesting.
I planned a trip to California for pleasure on a private jet and was told we had to stop in Houston for fuel so I thought I might stop in at HMS to see for myself the man that ripped me off and what his plans to settle up were face to face. I called ahead of time and left a message under a different name as a new customer so John would show up, when we got there his mechanic said to come back in an hour so we went for lunch and came
Back. I brought a video camera so I could get the meeting on tape, when John showed up he saw new customers and $$$$$ so he put on his "Good Ole Boy" smile and welcomed us in. Once inside he notice the camera and asked me to turn it off , I said no and then told him who I really was and that I wanted a straight up answer what he planned to do. You should have seen his face, like deer in headlights he had nothing to say except get out or he would call the police. I refused and demanded an answer but John just stood there like a gutless man and would not talk and called the cops for trespassing. So after repeated non-threatening attempts to get him to talk he asked me and my brother-in-law if we were gay , I replied "Yeah and I'm gonna throw you over that car and f*ck you up the azz like you have been f*cking me for 8 months" , little did I know that comment would be considered a "TERRORISTIC THREAT" , (one of John famous claims) anyway we decided to wait for the police so I could report him for theft , we waited 40 minutes for the cops to come and when they finally came I ran out of tape in the camera and missed the most unbelievable part. The cop listened to John’s side of the story first and said he would hear us after, that didn't happen once John told him about the so-called "Terroristic Treat" within minutes we were both in cuffs in the back of the police car under arrest for trespassing and terroristic threat. The cop would not hear our side and told us we were going to jail and wouldn't even watch the tape, we tried to reason with him but his last name was Walker and he thought he was Chuck Norris Texas Ranger," you’re in cuffs, in my car, I'm writing, and you’re goin to jail". After sitting outside HMS in cuffs for over 30 minutes we were on our way to the Houston City Jail, my camera was taken by the arresting office and we were sent to booking. Two white boys from Florida with a Bullshit arrest , we were shuffled around , stripped of our belongings , finger printed and sent to a holding cell full of non- white- non Florida boys that were all under arrest for real crimes , drug dealers , buyers , thieves , assault , and a murderer to top it off. After 10 hours in jail and a few phone calls later we posted bail for $1,500 and back on the street at 2 in the morning with an impounded rental
Car, no change of clothes and no bed. It is now 12:30 pm and we are in flight to California looking back at the day and planning our next trip back to Houston. We went from the Penthouse to the Shithouse in less than 3 hours but now were back in the Penthouse and Hennessey bought some time but the fact remains Johnny still owes $27,000 and if it costs me 10 times that in lawyer fees I will make sure Hennessey gets the same smelly *** cell that I got.

P.S. "Mr. Crack sellin Murderer what do you do when a fat little red headed Viper tuner thief gets put in YOUR holding cell? (In my best Chris Rock voice) The first thing I do is make ‘em TOSS MY SALAD!!!

What do you prefer John? Jelly or Syrup..?????"

Go to Viper Club of America and type in Hennessey in the search and read all the stories...If youre thinking about getting this Hennessey turbo kit Id definitely read up on some of these stories...


Give and said everything that is going on it is obvious that John has lost alot of credibility. I mean I thought that an avid car enthusiast and renowned high performance shop would show some professional courtesy regarding the allegations that were made against you and you take these accusations real childish. The real question that I'm pretty sure most of the people in the community would like to know is what do you plan to do on not just resolving the issues at hand but how will your company keep this from happening again?

FordRacing200
07-18-2006, 09:35 PM
The real question that I'm pretty sure most of the people in the community would like to know is what do you plan to do on not just resolving the issues at hand but how will your company keep this from happening again?
I'd like to know the same :confused:

MegaSRT-8
07-19-2006, 10:17 AM
That's usually what happends when a genius in one skill trade tries to handle the business part of it. Great product, poor business managment.

There's usually 2 people behind every succesfull company
Paul Alan (genius) had Bill Gates (businessman) - Microsoft
Sergey Brin (genius) had Larry Page (businessman) - Google

radduc
07-19-2006, 01:58 PM
Great job AZ!!! And all the other guy's that brought this scum bag to light.You guys saved me and I am sure alot of other people quite a bit of cash and greif

FordRacing200
07-19-2006, 04:27 PM
Great job AZ!!! And all the other guy's that brought this scum bag to light.You guys saved me and I am sure alot of other people quite a bit of cash and greif
I concure...but where is JH himself to defend his honor?

USMC0311
07-19-2006, 05:14 PM
And now I get this private message from John Hennessey:
LEGAL ACTION

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I SUGGEST THAT YOU CHANGE OR DELETE YOUR POST TO REFLECT FACTS THAT YOU KNOW TO BE TRUE FROM YOUR OWN PERSONAL DEALINGS WITH ME OR HENNESSEY PERFORMANCE ENGINEERING.

IF YOU DO NOT DO THIS WITHIN 24 HRS THEN I WILL INSTRUCT OUR COMPANY ATTORNEY TO FILE A LAWSUIT AGAINST YOU AND THE FORUM OWNER / OPERATOR.

IF YOU FEEL THAT YOUR FACTS ARE CORRECT AND CAN AFFORD THE COST OF LITIGATION THEN MORE POWER TO YOU.

JOHN HENNESSEY, PRESIDENT
HENNESSEY PERFORMANCE ENGINEERING

Sorry John, its called free speech. If its false then prove it to us. Why would we pay you to do "work" on our cars when these horror stories are all over the internet. I really think the owner of this website should take a look at whats going on here.
Another thing, Didnt the company used to be called Hennessey Motorsports? Did you change to Hennessey Performance Engineering because all the lawsuits against you were made in the original company name?


this is a freaking joke. You can't sue the web forum. It's call the internet. what they really need to do is stop drinking Hennessey;)

phased
07-19-2006, 05:49 PM
I refute all that BS. I refute the moderators and site owner/operator for allowing harrassing and unsubstaniated bs with no first hand knowledge to be posted on here. it is slanderous and libelous.

and we will hold any such person or business accountable for stating or allowing this to happen or continue to happen.

John Hennessey
Hennessey Performance Engineering

:D HAHAHA!
Hey John, I registered just to say I laughed at that statement!

As a potential future SRT8 owner I have stake in this conversation.
And my room mate is a lawyer and he is going to get a good laugh as well.
You just threaten people and piss them off. You don't realize that on the internet everything is public, and that's the way it is.

That being said(and to be non-biased), I want to point out that the Hennessey Law Suit search posted earlier in this thread only uses "Hennessey" as a parameter. Only a portion of the law suits appear to be for the man himself(for whatever business AND/OR personal reasons) and against his Business. But there are still quite a few that are related to him!

-Adam

ResumeSpeed
07-19-2006, 07:49 PM
"IF YOU FEEL THAT YOUR FACTS ARE CORRECT AND CAN AFFORD THE COST OF LITIGATION THEN MORE POWER TO YOU - John Hennessey"

Gee, I WONDER how JH has been able to afford to pay for all of lawsuits that have been brought against him over the years? Hmmm, could it have been, unknowingly, his CUSTOMERS????

John Hennessey
07-19-2006, 09:06 PM
I concure...but where is JH himself to defend his honor?

MASTUBATING IN THE SHOWER........

Dr.Steve
07-19-2006, 09:20 PM
I Absolutely Love This Thread. . . It Has Become My Soap Opera, Please Never Stop!. . . This Is Better Than 24!

Dr.Steve
07-19-2006, 09:21 PM
P.S.- please rinse out the shower when you're done JH

speedracer2169
07-19-2006, 10:00 PM
... The real question that I'm pretty sure most of the people in the community would like to know is what do you plan to do on not just resolving the issues at hand but how will your company keep this from happening again?
bump this question for an answer

ResumeSpeed
07-19-2006, 10:14 PM
MASTUBATING IN THE SHOWER........
Hmm, I thought I read on another forum where someone mentioned that you may not have the proper "equipment" to perform such a feat? :D

USMC0311
07-20-2006, 03:09 AM
what is there to say?? John Hennessey is an idiot. :mad:

FordRacing200
07-20-2006, 09:23 AM
MASTUBATING IN THE SHOWER........
Real Nice John...you're doing a great job of reaching your customers with this attitude, keep it up man! Don't hold anything back, show them what you're really like! :D Here's a nice shot of a JH built viper for you all-
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a251/FordRacing200/OWN3D/hennesscrewedni2.jpg

tainui
07-20-2006, 09:26 AM
Most of the best tuners I've ever met are complete *******s. There is a guy here in Rockland NY who workes n bikes "Ivan something." His parts are all over the cataloges and he's in magazines etc etc. f***in D-I-C-K. I wouldn't give him a dollar. but he knows his s**t and when he puts something together it works so people continue to pay him inspite of his personality.

I see some of those tendencies are here with JH as well. You don't have to like him, but people continue to pay him for the job he does. Good for him, I have a hard enough time getting paid when people do like me. lol!

El Jefe
07-20-2006, 10:48 AM
I know all of you guys here check other forums daily. I think the only thing we can do at this point is spread the word. Post this link up on the other forums you visit daily. I know I have.
Lets let this thread get over 20,000 views!

Uh oh:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Jeep-Grand-Cherokee-2006-Jeep-Grand-Cherokee-SRT8-with-500-HP-Upgrade_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6947QQihZ001QQi temZ110010017657QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

There goes his SRT Jeep

phased
07-20-2006, 11:03 AM
MASTUBATING IN THE SHOWER........

What?:D

LOL You are going to double this board's traffic!

copmagnet
07-20-2006, 01:39 PM
What?:D

LOL You are going to double this board's traffic!



Ha ha...Seriously, this board was dead before this drama started. I maybe checked it once a week at best before all this new entertainment. However, I have a feeling when this dies down, I'll spend most of my time on the other board as usual. There's just not enough action here.....:(

echo412
07-20-2006, 01:49 PM
JH you might want to correct the number of cyl on your ebya ad ....

El Jefe
07-20-2006, 03:43 PM
and you might want to stop editing some of your first posts in this thread....its too late

phased
07-20-2006, 04:56 PM
Ha ha...Seriously, this board was dead before this drama started. I maybe checked it once a week at best before all this new entertainment. However, I have a feeling when this dies down, I'll spend most of my time on the other board as usual. There's just not enough action here.....:(

WRXFanatics started JUST like this when I joined 5 years ago. It takes some time.

I have yet to even see a Jeep SRT8 on the road yet. In a few years they will be everywhere.

teda
07-20-2006, 05:56 PM
Ha ha...Seriously, this board was dead before this drama started. I maybe checked it once a week at best before all this new entertainment. However, I have a feeling when this dies down, I'll spend most of my time on the other board as usual. There's just not enough action here.....:(

Not what this thread is about, but figured I'd throw it in here anyway. I understand it is only your opinion that this board is dead, but you're here now aren't you? You want dead...check out Edmunds.

I and many others who frequent both places have found interesting ideas, opinions, and tips on both boards, and appreciate the efforts of others who have contributed to both. And you too, have had some good posts, seen a lot of them. Just my "opinion".

copmagnet
07-20-2006, 08:00 PM
Not what this thread is about, but figured I'd throw it in here anyway. I understand it is only your opinion that this board is dead, but you're here now aren't you? You want dead...check out Edmunds.

I and many others who frequent both places have found interesting ideas, opinions, and tips on both boards, and appreciate the efforts of others who have contributed to both. And you too, have had some good posts, seen a lot of them. Just my "opinion".


Hey, and I agree with your opinion. I was just commenting on the activity level recently from these threads. Don't get me wrong, i think it's a good thing. I completely believe, for whatever reason people get attracted and post more on these sites, myself, you and everyone else will benefit from the increased amount of info posted........whatever it may be. The point I was trying to make, was that i was a little let down at how slow this site was growing compared to others in respect to our GC SRT8's. Hopefully, more people will frequent these forums now and add to our knowledge database. I apologize for sounding negative in the previous post about it, I was in a mood. All that said...... the drama is at the very least entertaining, but hopefully we'll get some more member's speaking up and sharing info because of this.

domainguru
07-20-2006, 08:01 PM
hennessysucks.com - this domain is available....


Interesting I would say...

domainguru
07-20-2006, 08:08 PM
hennessysucks.com - this domain is available....


Interesting I would say...

wow not anymore- that was fast

teda
07-20-2006, 08:14 PM
Hey, and I agree with your opinion. I was just commenting on the activity level recently from these threads. Don't get me wrong, i think it's a good thing. I completely believe, for whatever reason people get attracted and post more on these sites, myself, you and everyone else will benefit from the increased amount of info posted........whatever it may be. The point I was trying to make, was that i was a little let down at how slow this site was growing compared to others in respect to our GC SRT8's. Hopefully, more people will frequent these forums now and add to our knowledge database. I apologize for sounding negative in the previous post about it, I was in a mood. All that said...... the drama is at the very least entertaining, but hopefully we'll get some more member's speaking up and sharing info because of this.

Hey I share your opinions as just stated. I really didn't mean you were totally negative either. You are dead on about about the growth factor for this site, and you definitely are right about the drama, and the entertainment value of all the JH posts. Unreal isn't it?

El Jefe
07-20-2006, 08:55 PM
I think weve done all we can do on the internet. I think we should have everyone email the big Magazine writers and inform them of this. Car and Driver and Auto Week should be on the top of our list since they both wrote articles on Hennessey in 2002. I have already done so what are you guys waiting for? :D

kscoyote
07-20-2006, 10:56 PM
I've read these posts, and I've got to say from my own experience I think I understand Hennesey

He's a lot like my dad, who knows his stuff but doesn't know business. I've had to extricate him from his own messes from time to time.

My guess from reading this is that Hennessey was a victim of his own success 6 years ago, and didn't understand his limits, which is easy when you run a specialty shop.

the orders come in, and you think the sky's the limit, and you can hire as many people as you need to do the work.

that's the case for mass manufacturers but not the case for specialty shops. There aren't enough people in a small location to do the work, so you have a bunch of work orders but you can't hire enough people who CAN do the work.

With my dad, it's a sore spot with him, and if anyone brings it up, no matter how much he's changed the business it's hard for him to admit to making the mistake, because in everything else he does he does an awesome job.

he doesn't take personal attacks very well, and an attack on his business is like someone takes a knife and stabs him in the back. It's the only thing he's done that he thinks he can be proud of.

My dad has redone his business and knows the limits of what he can do, but he still can't take criticism for what he's done in the past. he's learned from his mistakes, but he still can't admit to them.

If there are mistakes from the RECENT past, then Henessey "should" tell his prospective customers what he's going to do to correct them,no matter how hard it's going to be to admit them.

My dad can't do it, I generally have to do it for him -I only hope hennessey's got someone who can do it for him.

********************************

It's tough for me to see this gang-bang on a talented individual, I hope he can get someone to fill the role . .. .

quicksrt
07-20-2006, 11:17 PM
Let's just say me and a freind witnessed an SRT550 Charger that was having its engine pulled apart from a different shop (than Hennessey) because the car owner complained that there wasn't the hp gain that comes with the 550 upgrade.... Engine is cracked open and to my shock the heads and intake were not ported, the pistons were not forged...... And I am quite sure that the rings, valves, lifters...blah blah were not replaced as advertised.... No wonder the owner complained of no hp gains... The only thing the car got was LT headers, exhaust, CAI, and a very expensive pair of floor mats and SRT550 emblems... OUCH!!! I was not suppose to see this car, but I walked into the shop when they were cracking open the engine.... Of course I noticed immediately that the pistons were bone stock and noticed the SRT550 emblems. I had to ask questions.....

You be the judge.

From what HEAT Performance told me, I heard you grenaded your engine 2 days after GSM installed your supercharger????? What happend? Did they not tune it right? I hope GSM replaced the engine, supercharger, heads at no cost to you.......

USMC0311
07-20-2006, 11:28 PM
i don't think hennessy going to be posting on here anymore. :p

quicksrt
07-20-2006, 11:31 PM
I think weve done all we can do on the internet. I think we should have everyone email the big Magazine writers and inform them of this. Car and Driver and Auto Week should be on the top of our list since they both wrote articles on Hennessey in 2002. I have already done so what are you guys waiting for? :D


Don't worry as many people as you have righting uneducated slanderous crap to the magazines, I'll have double your amount from viperalley and other forums write to them about educated TRUE experiences.

kscoyote
07-20-2006, 11:53 PM
Don't worry as many people as you have righting uneducated slanderous crap to the magazines, I'll have double your amount from viperalley and other forums write to them about educated TRUE experiences.

I'm just hoping he'll leave your German leftovers and move over to Ford performance while setting his production sights a little lower .. . .

greatone61
07-21-2006, 12:15 AM
I'm just hoping he'll leave your German leftovers and move over to Ford performance while setting his production sights a little lower .. . .

Ford performance?? Seen any Ford GT TT's???? Badass is all I can say...

kscoyote
07-21-2006, 12:20 AM
I'm sure this will get me banned, but in case you haven't noticed, this is a corporate board. All the Charger/Magmun/300C/Cherokee boards look alike and have the same moderators. I'm sure SRT doesn't want any competition and baited henessey into a trap he couldn't refuse.

Y'all bought it, and I really do hope he moves to Ford Performance. I just hope he's moved his production goals more in line with the talent he has available to him.

greatone61
07-21-2006, 12:26 AM
I'm sure this will get me banned, but in case you haven't noticed, this is a corporate board. All the Charger/Magmun/300C/Cherokee boards look alike and have the same moderators. I'm sure SRT doesn't want any competition and baited henessey into a trap he couldn't refuse.

Y'all bought it, and I really do hope he moves to Ford Performance. I just hope he's moved his production goals more in line with the talent he has available to him.

No its not, its owned by a guy named Ekool. In my opinion hopefully the SRT team takes a look at this and disassociates themselves. Maybe its just me, but I like to come to these forums to enjoy what fellow enthusiasts have done to their rides and have fun. Not to get into any pissing matches or read stuff like this. This is getting soooo old.

HEMEEE
07-21-2006, 12:43 AM
I'm sure this will get me banned, but in case you haven't noticed, this is a corporate board. All the Charger/Magmun/300C/Cherokee boards look alike and have the same moderators. I'm sure SRT doesn't want any competition and baited henessey into a trap he couldn't refuse.....A conspiracy theorist has decided to join us... Now THAT'S funny!! :rolleyes:

ResumeSpeed
07-21-2006, 04:51 AM
...but I like to come to these forums... Not to get into any pissing matches or read stuff like this. This is getting soooo old.
I know what you mean about it getting "soooo old" - I can only imagine the pain and suffering you have gone through since you joined two days ago. Have you consulted an attorney? Remember that if you were forced or coerced to join this forum you may be entitled to treble damages.

Unfortunately, the forum owners have evidentally figured out a way to force people to read each and every word of each and every post in every thread. I'm not sure how they do this, I thought maybe you could offer some insight or a solution since you have been through it these past two days. Any help would be appreciated as there is just not enough time in the day to read every new thread, some of those OT posts can be real doozies!

kscoyote
07-21-2006, 09:03 AM
A conspiracy theorist has decided to join us... Now THAT'S funny!! :rolleyes:

http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/...-smart-car-ad/

The ad showed a polished studio image of the ForFour, with the words, "German engineering. Swiss innovation. American nothing."

*****************************************

Yeah, these aren't corporate boards. keep drinking the kool-aid.

Since when do independent sites share revenue as "sister" sites?

kscoyote
07-21-2006, 09:16 AM
Seems you can engage in name-calling, cursing, and all sorts of boorish behavior on these "sister" boards, and you can stay as long as you like.

Criticize DC, and you're booted.

Nooooooo -these aren't corporate boards!

(sips Kool-Aid)

As long as you're an Idiotic American Boor, you're fine.
****************************
I'm off the reservation.

Fielder
07-21-2006, 09:58 AM
Sorry for Getting involved. I Would just like to bring somthing to your attention...

I am a Poster from the UK. US Domestic cars make up a TINY persentage of cars on our roads due to there size, Fuel consumption and price. However much to my amazement links to the two threads in on this site already made there way to the UK. the VW scene had a very simular situation with two seporate companies. Both went into Liquidation within 12 months.

Good luck John. I might only be 21 years young and starting out in the business world...But seriously man. You SUCK at customer services! Your BAD reputation has now gone INTERNATIONAL. If thats not a wakeup call i have no idea what is.

DJ2
07-21-2006, 10:05 AM
Seems you can engage in name-calling, cursing, and all sorts of boorish behavior on these "sister" boards, and you can stay as long as you like.

Criticize DC, and you're booted.

Nooooooo -these aren't corporate boards!

(sips Kool-Aid)

As long as you're an Idiotic American Boor, you're fine.
****************************
I'm off the reservation.
HAHAHAHA, you my friend are obviously as uninformed as they come around here. Do yourself a favor and educate yourself about things before posting. Someone tried to tell you who owns/operates these forums but you refused to listen. Ekool may be a money-grubbing (and in his own words) "Jewish Mexican" who saw an opportunity to make a decent amount of money by purchasing domains that attract a lot of traffic and advertisers, but corporate he is NOT!


get a clue!

kscoyote
07-21-2006, 10:30 AM
HAHAHAHA, you my friend are obviously as uninformed as they come around here. Do yourself a favor and educate yourself about things before posting. Someone tried to tell you who owns/operates these forums but you refused to listen. Ekool may be a money-grubbing (and in his own words) "Jewish Mexican" who saw an opportunity to make a decent amount of money by purchasing domains that attract a lot of traffic and advertisers, but corporate he is NOT!


get a clue!

And his advertising revenue and permission to use the Intellectual Property comes from whom?

The corporation doesn't have to "own" the domain, it just has to "own" the owner.

*******************************

Educate yourself about how stuff works.

kscoyote
07-21-2006, 12:51 PM
Seeing as how this is the only DC site not to have banned me immediately after criticising the corporate schemata, -It looks like someone up top is getting a clue. How are the emergency meetings going, boys?

It also appears that vendors of all stripes are getting ticked off.

So, is SRT running off the competition?




Enquiring minds want to know.

varanus69
07-21-2006, 01:06 PM
i may be relatively new here but this has been the most entertaining thread i have ever read. Gotta love the conspiracy theories. Anyone wonder if this new person might actually be someone else thats in the hot seat coming on with a new name to try to shift the focus of this thread away from them? seen it done more than a few times in other forums, not saying that thats what is goin on but its possible. Just my thoughts...

kscoyote
07-21-2006, 01:13 PM
They've been baggin on GSM, too . . . Senior Members seem to have a lot of problems with other vendors for some reason . . .

kscoyote
07-21-2006, 01:16 PM
http://www.cherokeesrt8.com/forums/showthread.php?t=568&page=2

Re: NEW PRODUCT: B&B TriFlo Exhaust


All thread crapping posts have been removed with apologies to TByrne.


This thread is about the B&B TriFlo Exhaust... please stay on topic!

For problems in this, or any thread, please send me a PM, don't wait for me to stumble upon it...or for someone else to report it. The Moderators cannot possibly review every post.

****************************************

Why did y'all suddenly reverse course here?

varanus69
07-21-2006, 01:17 PM
once again it looks like the focus is trying to shifted or is it just me?

fiddytrimfanatik
07-21-2006, 02:36 PM
hahahahahahahhahah where'd they teach you common business practice, wal-mart parking lot? hahahah you're such a tool. Masturbating in the shower? thats original. I'll tell you what, you come out to sonics in houstons and i'll round up everyone you ripped off and then we'll all have a good chat (on camera) about these statements, hows that sound?

are you sure that mom and dad will spring for the ticket to fly from NY down to Houston? If so, better do it before high school starts up again.

For those of you who dont know, fordracing200 is a high school kid in NY who doesn't own a car and was smacked down for trash talking on another forum. Nice to see you havent learned the lesson you got about trash talking on svtperformance. What's your excuse here, since its not a smackdown forum?

I think the few people who had sympathy for you there would be interested to see your posts here.

ekool
07-21-2006, 04:55 PM
Its time to end this thread. Everyone has had a chance to put their 2 cents in, and then some. The original reason for leaving all the threads up was to cover my own ass in the event that JH decides to make good on his MULTIPLE threats to sue me.

I figure the more ammo he gives me publicly the better off I'll be in court. Thats it. Plain and simple.

Lawsuits are just something you dont throw around and threaten people with. I take them very seriously and dont like being threatened in any way, shape or form.

As far as this site (or any of my sites) being corporate. Thats a laugh.

DCX has never asked me to delete or close any thread. Ever. The only thing they've ever done is asked for help in promoting some of their other sites or events. They've never paid us a cent, and I've never asked for any. They help us out and we help them out, thats all there is too it.

I'm going to close all the related threads on all the forums so that we can all get back to our respective lives and discuss whats important.... Cars.