: Bringing in a jeep from the states to canada.
ShaneN. 06-01-2011, 04:34 AM Who's done it and what was involved that's specific to the truck? As far as I know part way through the 2007 production year and up will have an added $4000 dollar green levy fee due.
Are these trucks able to switch over from Imperial to Metric?
What was involved in getting the day time running lights working?
Does anything not comply? (for example, i remember the corvette bumpers wouldn't past crash test standards here and had to have something added to them to comply)
Rambit 06-01-2011, 05:44 AM If you're looking for a 2007 you may not have to pay the Green Levy tax...
The new Green Levy also applies to used vehicles imported into Canada in order to meet domestic tax requirements. Some importers are licensed with the Canada Revenue Agency (CRA) to pay the tax on importations directly to the CRA. If you are not licensed, then the tax is payable at the time of importation of the vehicle and it is collected by the CBSA as duties under the Customs Act. The tax will only apply to imported used vehicles if the vehicle was put into service on or after March 20, 2007. The tax does not apply to vehicles that were put into service before March 20, 2007.
http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/trade-commerce/tariff-tarif/2007/tn21a-eng.html#q03
higshemi (Fred) imported his and I believe he didn't have to pay, so you might want to contact him.
The DRL's can be done at the dealer by changing the country code.
Bernie
Rambit 06-01-2011, 06:02 AM Just did some digging and it looks like he did have to pay the Green Levy based on the in service date. I'm sure he can help you as far as the process goes though. You should know that if the one you're looking at still has a factory warranty, bringing it across the border will void it.
Bernie
higshemi 06-01-2011, 06:35 AM Theres some grey area or misinformation I found in the RIV program. The RIV program states the "in service date" is the date to be used by the border to calculate the green levy. The in service date by definition is when the jeep is actually titled and insured for road use. When in fact they used the build date located on the drivers door info sticker. IMO the 4000 tax is deal killer, just besure to ask every potential owner to read the build date to you. If its before March 20th, 07 your golden. I called numerous border agencys and out of 10 or so people only one person gave me the correct info. Which at the time she didn't even know if it was correct after I read word for word the Green fee definition. Either way its a very simple process with the only downfall beiing the travelling time. Do your research ahead of time have the seller take numerous pics in detail before you commit on driving down.
As far as registering the jeep in Canada. You simply need to activate the DRL like Rambit stated and pick up some bilingual airbag stickers from a local dealer. Take it to a RIV approved Canadian tire and they will check for DRL, bilingual stickers(I actually just showed him and never put them on) and km/h in the speedo which the jeep has. Then safety, Cert and off to the DMV or equivalent.
Any other questions just let me know.
Rambit 06-01-2011, 06:47 AM Thanks for the timely and good advice Fred! Personally, just by the number of Jeeps in Alberta, I'd say look there for a clean one first.
Bernie
higshemi 06-01-2011, 06:49 AM No kidding, seems like a surplus... But isn't the OP from BC, my geography isn't great but there might be a mountain range inbetween and may just be easier hop across to Washington State.
Rambit 06-01-2011, 07:04 AM No kidding, seems like a surplus... But isn't the OP from BC, my geography isn't great but there might be a mountain range inbetween and may just be easier hop across to Washington State.
Just a short jaunt Fred.:D I used to live in Victoria and found taking the ferry was the worst part.
Bernie
ShaneN. 06-02-2011, 03:12 AM Thanks for the quick reply's guys. Getting it "canada ready" seems like the easy part. This vehicle I will be keeping for several years and I really want to get what makes me happy, so I'm really wanting the 08+ interior and I think I'm going to not settle until I find one very low mile/km. I find it absolutely absurd to have to pay 4k extra, it virtually makes finding a 30k usd truck in the states turn into a 40k+ purchase, before modding even starts. It's funny you mention the mountains as my friend just left today from BC to Manitoba and he was saying just getting from here to Alberta is going to take over half the expected time. I can fly for free with my uncle, so I'm probably going to fly down to wherever I find the vehicle and then have it shipped back. Or maybe even save the flight if I buy off of a long time member on the site. If I could find a low km 2008 or 2009 in Canada, that'd be ideal.
If you don't mind me asking, higshemi, what did the experience cost you besides the price of the actual truck? We pay GST, as well as duty and a fee to RIV... plus green levy? How much is the canadian tire inspection and the swap to the canada code at the dealership?
mlarco52 06-09-2011, 05:28 PM Hey Shane bringing a vehicle from the US into BC now don't you have to pay the HST (12%) rather then the previous 6% GST?
higshemi 06-09-2011, 06:40 PM RIV fee ( 225?) HST at the border now(13%) Green fee (4000) Canadian tire inspection is free. Also, you'll need a safety(100) and have your DRL enabled. Dealers usually charge an hours labour for it. Unless you know someone. You always had to pay the full tax it was just GST at the border and PST when you registered the vehicle. I also had to swap the title over into my name(In the U.S) so I could get temp permits to drive home. It was only 60 for both title swap and 30 day temp tag. So, don't do it on a weekend. lol
Another thing to consider is a temp tag is only valid in the state you purchase the tag. So technically you SHOULD get a temp tag in every state you travel through. Otherwise your risking a ticket.
mlarco52 06-09-2011, 08:43 PM HST in BC is 12%
kokanee13 06-10-2011, 12:20 AM It's really a PIA. Not worth it IMO. Even if your in Van, it's only 9 hours to Calgary by car. And 6 back n your new Jeep! :)
mlarco52 06-10-2011, 12:36 AM It is a bit of a hassle, however sometimes on more expensive vehicles its worth it you save a lot, other times you save barley anything and just waste time.
ShaneN. 06-10-2011, 01:22 AM RIV fee ( 225?) HST at the border now(13%) Green fee (4000) Canadian tire inspection is free. Also, you'll need a safety(100) and have your DRL enabled. Dealers usually charge an hours labour for it. Unless you know someone. You always had to pay the full tax it was just GST at the border and PST when you registered the vehicle. I also had to swap the title over into my name(In the U.S) so I could get temp permits to drive home. It was only 60 for both title swap and 30 day temp tag. So, don't do it on a weekend. lol
Another thing to consider is a temp tag is only valid in the state you purchase the tag. So technically you SHOULD get a temp tag in every state you travel through. Otherwise your risking a ticket.
12% isn't it? but isn't there duty on top of that for a total of 18%? Or is it just hst, green levy and RIV fee?
It won't save money but I wouldn't think it's "not worth it". Every single srt8 in canada i see for sale is 40 or more and since I'm looking for 08+, black and super low miles - I'm not sure how much luck I'll have finding one in Canada.
higshemi 06-10-2011, 06:32 AM No duty, Jeep was built in NA.
TriVita 06-10-2011, 09:06 AM Keep looking here in Canada.
I am in Toronto and most are under $30k and I even noticed one 2 weeks ago with a new 426 for about $35k (although I don't see any 08s)
I picked my one owner 2007 about 3 months ago for just under $25k and the prices really didn't seem to go up much considering the better weather.
Good luck in finding exactly what you want!!
mlarco52 06-10-2011, 10:20 AM Alright since you were looking for an 08+ I did some searching around while I had a few minutes free and here is what I dug up for you (looked at some major city listings online)
Under 40k, with reasonably low clicks on each of them, listings follow:
http://calgary.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-cars-trucks-2008-Jeep-Grand-Cherokee-6-1-SRT8-4WD-AUTO-W0QQAdIdZ284763825
http://calgary.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-cars-trucks-2008-Jeep-Grand-Cherokee-6-1-SRT8-4WD-AUTO-W0QQAdIdZ287400578
http://calgary.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-cars-trucks-2008-Jeep-Grand-Cherokee-SRT8-HEMI-SUV-W0QQAdIdZ288801653
ELGOLD 06-15-2011, 10:33 PM Seems to me that prices in Canada and US are pretty even, just need to be persistent and look for a clean truck and then do some negotiating. Before I bought mine I looked at a few and none seemed to sell over a period of a couple of weeks. Sure every seller had a story of someone that was "very interested" and was "going to come up with a deposit". The truth is that many of the people that look at this truck are dreamers and would not be able to afford the insurance and especially the gas bills.
I think this puts a "real" buyer in a strong position because if you have the cash, you stand to make a pretty good deal with a seller who understands that selling a high performance truck for top dollar in today's market is not very easy.
Bought my '07 with 60,000km for $25K even. I found this a fair price to both parties, oh sure the seller wanted to get around 30 but was wise enough to realize that this was not going to happen. Here in Southern Ontario there are probably more sellers than live buyers, this would dictate a buyer's market to me and the ability to make a good deal locally. Besides when you try to resell a US truck, expect to take a hit in the 15%-%20 range on resale value.
ShaneN. 06-16-2011, 03:07 AM Seems to me that prices in Canada and US are pretty even, just need to be persistent and look for a clean truck and then do some negotiating. Before I bought mine I looked at a few and none seemed to sell over a period of a couple of weeks. Sure every seller had a story of someone that was "very interested" and was "going to come up with a deposit". The truth is that many of the people that look at this truck are dreamers and would not be able to afford the insurance and especially the gas bills.
I think this puts a "real" buyer in a strong position because if you have the cash, you stand to make a pretty good deal with a seller who understands that selling a high performance truck for top dollar in today's market is not very easy.
Bought my '07 with 60,000km for $25K even. I found this a fair price to both parties, oh sure the seller wanted to get around 30 but was wise enough to realize that this was not going to happen. Here in Southern Ontario there are probably more sellers than live buyers, this would dictate a buyer's market to me and the ability to make a good deal locally. Besides when you try to resell a US truck, expect to take a hit in the 15%-%20 range on resale value.
wow, i've been looking at these things for about 3 years now - seriously over previous months since my corvette was stolen and i've NEVER seen a deal like that, especially not in Canada.
mlarco52 06-16-2011, 11:30 AM I'm guessing another reason the 08s may be a bit higher in price since I have seen some 07s in the low 30s in Edmonton and Calgary area, the 08s have the updated interior, correct? Could possibly be the reason they are going for more, aside from being 1 year newer.
higshemi 06-16-2011, 01:17 PM Seems to me that prices in Canada and US are pretty even, just need to be persistent and look for a clean truck and then do some negotiating. Before I bought mine I looked at a few and none seemed to sell over a period of a couple of weeks. Sure every seller had a story of someone that was "very interested" and was "going to come up with a deposit". The truth is that many of the people that look at this truck are dreamers and would not be able to afford the insurance and especially the gas bills.
I think this puts a "real" buyer in a strong position because if you have the cash, you stand to make a pretty good deal with a seller who understands that selling a high performance truck for top dollar in today's market is not very easy.
Bought my '07 with 60,000km for $25K even. I found this a fair price to both parties, oh sure the seller wanted to get around 30 but was wise enough to realize that this was not going to happen. Here in Southern Ontario there are probably more sellers than live buyers, this would dictate a buyer's market to me and the ability to make a good deal locally. Besides when you try to resell a US truck, expect to take a hit in the 15%-%20 range on resale value.
Did you by chance buy your truck in London? And insurance is not bad on these things. I pay under a 1000 a year full coverage.
guyrobert 06-16-2011, 03:10 PM I've done the import to B.C. with 4 cars/trucks, you will get a better selection in the US it is a hassle but in my opinion worth it. Go with the 08 just for the interior and HID lamps as well.
Don't forget shipping $$ to the border (I had mine shipped to Bellingham), and the wait (72 hours) and paperwork (free) required to export the jeep from the US.
P.S. don't lie about the price they've (customs) got that dialed.
MattSRT4 06-16-2011, 04:14 PM This is totally my department. I had been searching for years as well and seriously searching for the last two months straight when I had the cash together. I'm in Edmonton Alberta and I can't tell you more than to buy local. I have a few buddies who work for one of the largest dealerships in western Canada (not Mopar) and they have access to all kinds of info for me. I found a US spec 06' with a converted 81,000kms on it (still had all the metric dials, speedo etc) and I could gave had it for $25k all in at the beggining of May. Problem is it needed a service 4x4, threw codes, and looked fairly bagged. Then I finally found my dream. I got it delivered May 21st.
2008 black on black JGC with 79,000 kms here in Alberta and I got it all in for just over $31,000 bucks. Couldn't be happier, it's completely loaded with everything, lady driven and bone stock. I love the HID's! The 08' interior is miles better too. Blue tooth and my gig are sweet. Keep looking, the prices are dropping and with the 2012 SRT8 on the way they will only drop further.
ELGOLD 06-16-2011, 04:18 PM Did you by chance buy your truck in London? And insurance is not bad on these things. I pay under a 1000 a year full coverage.
No bought mine in Toronto.
There was one in London but didn't have Navi and DVD.
The $4000 gas guzzler tax is a killer, they should give you a refund becuase you end up paying so much gas tax at the pump by filling the truck up often.
Another factor to consider is if you have a trade you only pay HST on the difference, I ran mine through a dealer and worked out a straight trade, that way paid "0" tax, sure beats the 13% if brought through the border. Thats a big chunk of cash in my books.
ShaneN. 06-17-2011, 01:43 AM Thats a big chunk of cash in my books.
no doubt. HST + 4K green levy + duty is adding a good 10k to the purchase. that's UNREAL.
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