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: My ICE experience


PKI
07-07-2007, 01:38 PM
Only because there aren't enough ICE threads going right now, I have to post my results!!! ;)

I had to practice on the proper way to wash a car before my GC gets here, so I dropped the wife off at work and got the practice in.

The liquid clay bar is wonderful. A bit of a work out, but it really helped get the road crap off. What didn't come off with the applicater, I just rubbed it with my thumb nail and off it came. Stuff from 2 years ago came off with no problem. I can't imagine how much better an actual clay bar is.

The "wax" or as turtle wax calls it "polish" was SUPER EASY to apply. I was a little confused because I didn't see any white residue after it sat for several minutes. But I still followed the directions and it is the tits!

Now my wife's little rocket is as smooth as my butt....uhhhh...I mean as a baby's butt. :D

Here are 3 photos for your viewing enjoyment:

Just a clay bar
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1155/748518515_096c5e79c0_m.jpg

Clay bar and ICE polish - notice that the shine is just smoother and crisper

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1217/748518531_21d08a0737_m.jpg

One last photo of the finished product
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1256/748518557_8c1868bcea_m.jpg

SRT8
07-07-2007, 01:50 PM
Thumb nail? Why not a prybar? jk. LOL. :)
On the bugs & tar try a water soluble product like LifterOne http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductDetail.aspx?MfrCode=LOP&MfrPartNumber=51860&CategoryCode=3301 .
Archives now: http://www.cherokeesrt8.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5341&highlight=turtle+ice
http://www.cherokeesrt8.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4841&highlight=turtle+ice
http://www.cherokeesrt8.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4987&highlight=turtle+ice
http://www.cherokeesrt8.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1161&highlight=clay+bar
Ha ha.... more good ICE stories.

jlandbl
07-07-2007, 05:01 PM
Use a Brillo pad instead of your fingernail.

PKI
07-07-2007, 05:59 PM
I wasn't scratching hard, just rubbing with my thumb and nail...it isn't like I have claws that are going to do damage.

Point being, it worked well and the hard spots that have been on there for a long time came off with just a little extra pressure...

I do appreciate the concern though.

chasm
07-07-2007, 06:40 PM
Tried the "Ice" this PM on my 98 5.9 Limited. Easiest wax job I've ever done. The proof in the pudding will be how long it lasts. A good pure Carnuba wax job lasts for a good amount of time. Hopefully this new technology will do the same.

On another subject, as I await delivery of my 08 JGC SRT8, I've read quite a bit here about CAI's. While waxing my 5.9 today under the hood I noticed that the air filter seems to draw air ahead of the engine compartment. This is a completely stock Jeep (I bought it new). Question is did the 5.9's come with factory CAI? TIA

chasm

2002 BMW M3 Convertible
2002 BMW K1200 RS

luvr 6.1
07-07-2007, 09:52 PM
Use a Brillo pad instead of your fingernail.

Nah, I prefer 600 grit! Gives it that dull look.:D On a more serious note I have been using Turtle wax "Ice" products since they came out. Very good stuff, great shine and easy to use, but recently I tried Mothers FX Synthetic liquid wax and it really makes the Inferno Red stand out. On the bottle it says when removed the paint will have a "Hard Candy Shell Appearance" and sure as Sh$t it does and it is alot easier to use than the Ice products. The only thing that is a draw back is that everytime I lick the car after waxing it, it doesn't taste like hard candy? Oh well still good stuff.

PKI
07-07-2007, 10:10 PM
On the bottle it says when removed the paint will have a "Hard Candy Shell Appearance" and sure as Sh$t it does and it is alot easier to use than the Ice products. The only thing that is a draw back is that everytime I lick the car after waxing it, it doesn't taste like hard candy? Oh well still good stuff.

HAHAHAAAAAaaaaa!!!

Looks like I will have to do a comparo in the future...MMmmmmm candy....

luvr 6.1
07-08-2007, 05:10 AM
HAHAHAAAAAaaaaa!!!

Looks like I will have to do a comparo in the future...MMmmmmm candy....

Yeah, I always get my hopes up each time, but it still tastes like wax????Weird??? :D

BuilderBill
07-08-2007, 05:42 AM
Nah, I prefer 600 grit!
Hmmm, thats where I went wrong. I had 150 grit from a job so I used that!:mad:

Actually, I am going to Ice up the rig today.
Bill

luvr 6.1
07-08-2007, 07:31 AM
Actually, I am going to Ice up the rig today.
Bill

You'll be impressed! Hey Bill if you ever get the chance to try that Mothers F/X synthetic wax let us know how it works on Black, I think it would turn out pretty sweet but ceratin colors take certain waxes very differently. I do know that the Inferno looks amazing with it.

Squilly D
07-08-2007, 07:32 AM
And for those really stubborn spots try a pumice stone....

With all this talk about the ICE products I am going to try them out today. Hope it lives up to the hype.

luvr 6.1
07-08-2007, 07:33 PM
And for those really stubborn spots try a pumice stone....

With all this talk about the ICE products I am going to try them out today. Hope it lives up to the hype.

You will be impressed! Another thing that I use the clear liquid polish for is to do all my black plastic around the front&back bumpers and mirror areas and under the hood. The stuff is a 1,000 times better than Armoral for "Outside Black Plastic" my trim pieces look brand new every time I do this and it last for 3-4 car washes before needing to re apply. If you don't use the polish for the paint, save it and try it on any black plastic.

Squilly D
07-08-2007, 07:53 PM
I tried the ICE products today and the Jeep looks great. I did however a difficult time getting all of the polish off. I went through 5 or 6 microfiber towels because they started to smear the polish instead of removing it. I don't think I put to much of it on but maybe so. Even with this issue it was still the fastest polish job I have done.

kramsay1234
07-08-2007, 08:16 PM
With all the talk I had to go out and buy this stuff. The liquid clay bar is good, but I don't think it compares to an actual clay bar. On the other hand, its 5x faster. The actual ICE polish, seems like it will work well, but one warning is make sure your truck is perfectly dried with no water marks because putting this on and off does not remove the water marks. I ended up with really glossy water marks...lol. I had to take a damp microfibre cloth and get rid of them all. When I was done and ready to put the ICE on the whole truck, it rained so will wait for another day.

Anyone know what this will be like for UV protect? I have not waxed my truck yet, and now I am debating waxing the whole thing with Meguiars Gold Class and then ICING it. Also not sure how long this will last because when I put it on, it felt the same as if I was dressing the tires and seemed like it wouldn't last very long.

BuilderBill
07-08-2007, 09:31 PM
I tried the ICE products today and the Jeep looks great. I did however a difficult time getting all of the polish off. I went through 5 or 6 microfiber towels because they started to smear the polish instead of removing it. I don't think I put to much of it on but maybe so. Even with this issue it was still the fastest polish job I have done.

^^^^ thought it was just me!
Bill

luvr 6.1
07-08-2007, 10:01 PM
I tried the ICE products today and the Jeep looks great. I did however a difficult time getting all of the polish off. I went through 5 or 6 microfiber towels because they started to smear the polish instead of removing it. I don't think I put to much of it on but maybe so. Even with this issue it was still the fastest polish job I have done.

You will go through the microfiber towels to get the polish off. I normally dedicate one towel for fender & driver door / passenger door & quarter panel / Tailgate / then reverse side / Front / Roof. So around 8 towels and keeps the smears down. The Liqiud Detail Spray Ice works well to help finalize any left over smears.

luvr 6.1
07-08-2007, 10:09 PM
With all the talk I had to go out and buy this stuff. The liquid clay bar is good, but I don't think it compares to an actual clay bar. On the other hand, its 5x faster. The actual ICE polish, seems like it will work well, but one warning is make sure your truck is perfectly dried with no water marks because putting this on and off does not remove the water marks. I ended up with really glossy water marks...lol. I had to take a damp microfibre cloth and get rid of them all. When I was done and ready to put the ICE on the whole truck, it rained so will wait for another day.

Anyone know what this will be like for UV protect? I have not waxed my truck yet, and now I am debating waxing the whole thing with Meguiars Gold Class and then ICING it. Also not sure how long this will last because when I put it on, it felt the same as if I was dressing the tires and seemed like it wouldn't last very long.

Ice makes a Paste wax for the final step. Step1: Ice Clay / Step2: Ice Polish Step3: Ice Paste to seal up the claying and polish. I really prefer the Mothers FX synthetic liquid wax over the Ice paste, much easier on and off, and the hard candy shell look compared to a more warm shine if you know what I mean. If you do the Meguires Gold make sure you polish first then wax it that polished look. I read some where you can as many coats of polish as you want, but layers of wax above 2 coats is a waste and it starts to build up and look smeary, and I do believe this because I use to wax my vehicles 2-3 times a week and they all use to get smeary. Now I polish, polish, polish, and wax.:D

kramsay1234
07-09-2007, 03:34 AM
Interesting. With the layer of film/polish that the ICE leaves, I wouldn't have thought the wax would be able to do its thing over top of the polish.

Rick G
07-09-2007, 04:27 AM
Ice makes a Paste wax for the final step. Step1: Ice Clay / Step2: Ice Polish Step3: Ice Paste to seal up the claying and polish. I really prefer the Mothers FX synthetic liquid wax over the Ice paste, much easier on and off, and the hard candy shell look compared to a more warm shine if you know what I mean. If you do the Meguires Gold make sure you polish first then wax it that polished look. I read some where you can as many coats of polish as you want, but layers of wax above 2 coats is a waste and it starts to build up and look smeary, and I do believe this because I use to wax my vehicles 2-3 times a week and they all use to get smeary. Now I polish, polish, polish, and wax.:D

:rolleyes: MISINFORMATION ALERT:rolleyes:

Turtle wax does not make an Ice wax. They only make the polish and it comes in liquid or paste. They are the same product in different forms. There is also no 3 step system.
Check here:
http://www.turtlewax.com/main.taf?p=2,1,1,5

Rick G
07-09-2007, 04:32 AM
I tried the ICE products today and the Jeep looks great. I did however a difficult time getting all of the polish off. I went through 5 or 6 microfiber towels because they started to smear the polish instead of removing it. I don't think I put to much of it on but maybe so. Even with this issue it was still the fastest polish job I have done.

I've been detailing cars for years and I prefer using numerous terry cloth towels rather than the micro fiber towels. ;)

luvr 6.1
07-09-2007, 07:40 AM
:rolleyes: MISIMFORMATION ALERT:rolleyes:

Turtle wax does not make an Ice wax. They only make the polish and it comes in liquid or paste. They are the same product in different forms. There is also no 3 step system.
Check here:
http://www.turtlewax.com/main.taf?p=2,1,1,5


First of all do you actually own the 3 steps of Ice products???? I say steps because you would not wax, then polish, and then clay your car, so right off the bat you exposed yourself as not being very knowledable. If you do go out and read the back of the jar and bottle under "Directions" the jar says remove "wax" with microfiber towel and the liquid says remove "Polish" with microfiber towel, there you are exposing your low knowledge again on the products, its called reading, left to right, top to bottom, placing letters and vowels together to form sounds which turn into words. And I can tell you from "experience" they are not the same product in different forms they both apply differently and come off differently, so there is your third exposure of low knowledge "No real life Experience with it" Trust me when I tell you this JACK the last thing I would want to do is give the wrong information to people on this site. I have been using this stuff since it came out 2 years ago ( spray & liquid polish) paste is new this year with the clay in my area. So go read your little link under directions and if it is not there go BUY the material and read it and then try it. You probably race cars by siting magizine times too??? Tooo funny!!! And after reading some of your previuos threads they look like they also offer low knowledge material also. Oh just to be funny like you...Inferno paint over Red Rock...LOL...see, I can be an a$$ too! You need to learn to have a little more coothe & knowledge before making statements you don't have the knowlege, experience or the a$$ to back up.
You have a nice day :rolleyes:

Rick G
07-09-2007, 04:27 PM
This is Ice polish in liquid form:
http://www.turtlewax.com/main.taf?p=2,1,1,1

and this is Ice polish in paste form:
http://www.turtlewax.com/main.taf?p=2,1,1,5

What don't you understand?
They are the same product in different forms.
So stop embarassing yourself by not understanding the obvious and sounding like a fool.
If you don't believe Turtle wax themselves then your just beyond explaining it too.
You did in fact misinform the members here, if they advertise it as polish then its polish.
The truth hurts doesn't it? :p

Btw, before you start assuming other peoples level of knowledge you should check on your own. You spelled citing (siting), magazine (magizine), previous (previuos), knowlege (knowledge) and knowledgeable (knowledable) all wrong. Coothe is not a word and my name is Rick not Jack.
Now go ahead and tell me I'm wrong about all that too. :rolleyes:

Yes, you seem to be "real knowledgeable".
How do you expect the members here to believe anything you write. You deny the obvious, make numerous spelling errors, use words that don't exist and come off as a total dumbass. Now go edit your post then crawl back under your rock.

You have a nice night now. ;)

luvr 6.1
07-09-2007, 06:26 PM
This is Ice polish in liquid form:
http://www.turtlewax.com/main.taf?p=2,1,1,1

and this is Ice polish in paste form:
http://www.turtlewax.com/main.taf?p=2,1,1,5

What don't you understand?
They are the same product in different forms.
So stop embarassing yourself by not understanding the obvious and sounding like a fool.
If you don't believe Turtle wax themselves then your just beyond explaining it too.
You did in fact misinform the members here, if they advertise it as polish then its polish.
The truth hurts doesn't it? :p

Btw, before you start assuming other peoples level of knowledge you should check on your own. You spelled citing (siting), magazine (magizine), previous (previuos), knowlege (knowledge) and knowledgeable (knowledable) all wrong. Coothe is not a word and my name is Rick not Jack.
Now go ahead and tell me I'm wrong about all that too. :rolleyes:

Yes, you seem to be "real knowledgeable".
How do you expect the members here to believe anything you write. You deny the obvious, make numerous spelling errors, use words that don't exist and come off as a total dumbass. Now go edit your post then crawl back under your rock.

You have a nice night now. ;)
You must be an English Teacher, you are very good, I am impressed.You are a master of the Language Arts, like most women. Yeah most women are book smart, but we're talking Experience smart. You still did not read what it says on the back of the paste jar where it says "directions"?? It says remove "WAX" so I guess "Turtle Wax" is wrong. Just so you know you don't have to PM with your little womanly statements about me being embarrassed, I don't have those types of emotions because I am a man, and men don't get embarrassed by women, besides you are the one that should be embarrassed because you have not answered any of the questions I asked? Do you have it??? Did you read it??? Did you use it??? You probably spent 20 minutes like a woman editing my spelling mistakes instead. Believe me Rick, which is also a substitute name for RICH and we all know what RICH stands for huh???
You called me out remember, after you posted that great advice on Duh ...I use terry cloth towels uh if you haven't heard terry cloth towels went out of style years ago, kinda like your Members Only Jacket you still wear (talk about a dumbass?) but hey thats my name.... and then you posted your "Misinformation Alert".... you know women do that kind of sh$t, you're also probably the type of woman who comments on other mens clothing if it doesn't match and then give them a link to some womens clothing magazine, its tough being around a bunch of good guys and talking "friendly" car detailing tips when you have smart a$$ women like you jumping into a mans conversation. Thats were the term b*%ch slap comes from. And if you are not a woman I apologize because you must be the biggest (removed by Admin)

luvr 6.1
07-09-2007, 06:51 PM
Now back to the conversation between men on detailing tips, I have used the Ice products which includes their new car wash soap and they are all very good. The soap is fantastic because it keeps soaping up when you hit it with the garden hose and you don't have to keep adding it. Turtle wax did their homework on these.

PKI
07-09-2007, 07:57 PM
HAHAHAAAA hahahaaaa haaa haa aa a ... you guys are killing me...I almost fell out of my chair laughing at the bickering. There is a photo around about arguing on the internet and the special olympics...very funny indeed.

...to get us back on topic...I haven't used the wash next, but will in a 10 days or so when I get back in town. Maybe I will start a post on the wash and see if I can start another argument.

:D

PKI
07-09-2007, 09:58 PM
hahahaaa!!! Man you slay me!

Really I cannot stop laughing...maybe it is all the beer I have been removing from the bottles...

THanks for the info on the towls vs microfiber. the first time I used a micro fiber is from the ICE pack that I bought. I always just used old rags and towls. Now I know.

I needs all the experience before my new BLACK truck gets here in a month or so. My wife will be jealous from all the time I spend with her, but better a truck than an actual hussie...right? :D

PKI
07-10-2007, 07:59 AM
Mango is the reason I bought the ICE system. I am still a month away from my baby, but I was impressed with the results on the wife's wrocket (WRX).

Mango's photos are incredible.

teda
07-10-2007, 07:59 AM
A little hijack here but TS. Give it up at some point will ya? Your continuing rants and insults just make you look like an insecure bully/playground a**. All this over "Ice"? Ridiculous. Just my 2 cents.

luvr 6.1
07-10-2007, 08:16 AM
A little hijack here but TS. Give it up at some point will ya? Your continuing rants and insults just make you look like an insecure bully/playground a**. All this over "Ice"? Ridiculous. Just my 2 cents.

Sorry Teda I do aplogize to the members here it is stupid arguing over wax, it is not like we are discussing heads,cam,headers and even then people are allowed to have their opinions. But he is the one sending me the PM's telling me I should be embarrassed. Trust me teda I am far from an internet bully but I will not allow someone to assassinate my character by saying I'm a liar....and from reading alot of your previous replies I think you would not stand for that either if someone did the same to you? Just my 2 cents

Stickman
07-10-2007, 08:58 AM
I thought I would jump in and offer my observation on Liquid Ice. I started using it when it first came out. It washes off pretty quick (about 3 or 4 washings) but it is so stinking easy to use, I keep doing it. Just Ice the whole car- plastic, glass and all, let it sit for 10 minutes then wipe the bulk of it off the whole car with a microfiber cloth and then buff it a little with a second clean microfiber cloth. Detail spray/wipe any remaining streaks and your good to go. If it lasted longer I might marry it.

luvr 6.1
07-10-2007, 09:12 AM
. If it lasted longer I might marry it.

LOL...I stopped using Armoral 2 years ago for the black plastic on all my vehicles, the polish works much better and last longer.

ndm
07-10-2007, 09:42 AM
heres a DONT DO for ICE

last weekend I came up with the bright idea to empty all my ICE in a spray bottle and spray it on......

UHM Bad IDEA....

I still have ICE dripping from the moldings.....I used a spray bottle that allowed too much to be sprayed out..

If I could get a really fine mist, it would probably work better....But I think I will just wipe it on next time..

Oh and dont overdo it...Too much ICE sprayed on at the same time will take forever to get back off.... I waited, wiped, waited, wiped, and waited , and wiped and I finally got most of it wiped after a few hours........


STICK TO THE DIRECTIONS!!!

teda
07-10-2007, 11:16 AM
Sorry Teda I do aplogize to the members here it is stupid arguing over wax, it is not like we are discussing heads,cam,headers and even then people are allowed to have their opinions. But he is the one sending me the PM's telling me I should be embarrassed. Trust me teda I am far from an internet bully but I will not allow someone to assassinate my character by saying I'm a liar....and from reading alot of your previous replies I think you would not stand for that either if someone did the same to you? Just my 2 cents

Thanks for the reply. As is usual in many of these types of semi-confrontations, the majority of us don't know all the details. Me included. Frankly I'd be a little pi**ed also if someone was slamming me in pm's. Not sure how I'd respond to that, other than my immediate reaction of "you wanna take it outside?" Regardless, thanks for the gitback and a good post.

Let me also say that you have a sh**load of good and informative posts, and this is definitely not your style. Later.......:D

luvr 6.1
07-10-2007, 11:34 AM
Thanks for the reply. As is usual in many of these types of semi-confrontations, the majority of us don't know all the details. Me included. Frankly I'd be a little pi**ed also if someone was slamming me in pm's. Not sure how I'd respond to that, other than my immediate reaction of "you wanna take it outside?" Regardless, thanks for the gitback and a good post.

Let me also say that you have a sh**load of good and informative posts, and this is definitely not your style. Later.......:D

Thanks teda, your response(s) is/are much appreciated and highly regarded by me. I have been reading and studying this site for well over 14 months since buying my jeepSRT8 "Inferno" 14 months ago but just recently became a member again because I lost my password and could not for the life of me get back my password through the site emailing it to me. So I had to change my screen name a little and re-join (actually 6.1 luvr). But I can be honest and say I really never posted anything for well over a year because I learned through experience not to open my mouth unless I have something constructive to say and this education came from when I worked in the Steel Industry "Armco Steel". So I am here to help my brothers and sisters as best I can, because you all have helped me tremendously and I would like to give back a little.
Talk to ya later. :)

1bad4dr
07-10-2007, 12:15 PM
I've been detailing cars for years and I prefer using numerous terry cloth towels rather than the micro fiber towels. ;)
I cannot make comments on the "ICE" product as I do not use it, but I will comment on your "I've been detailing cars for years" claim. lmao

Dude, Terry Clothes are yesterdays clothe and Microfibers are the "IN"....... Concidering I have a 15K paint job and used a Cotton Diaper and Terry Clothe (by accident) ONCE!!!! Oooooo the spiderweb scratches I got. My painter and detailer were not happy. I switched over to MF and ALL is perfect.

GET OFF your HIGHHORSE whilst calling a VALUED member (who ACTUALLY contributes to the forums) a LIAR until YOU get YOUR facts straight.

L6.1, I think your write-up was very informative and can the directions can actually be used with different Wax and Polish products as well.

Oh yea, thanks for the first in the morning laugh. hahaha

luvr 6.1
07-10-2007, 12:40 PM
I cannot make comments on the "ICE" product as I do not use it, but I will comment on your "I've been detailing cars for years" claim. lmao

Dude, Terry Clothes are yesterdays clothe and Microfibers are the "IN"....... Concidering I have a 15K paint job and used a Cotton Diaper and Terry Clothe (by accident) ONCE!!!! Oooooo the spiderweb scratches I got. My painter and detailer were not happy. I switched over to MF and ALL is perfect.

GET OFF your HIGHHORSE whilst calling a VALUED member (who ACTUALLY contributes to the forums) a LIAR until YOU get YOUR facts straight.

L6.1, I think your write-up was very informative and can the directions can actually be used with different Wax and Polish products as well.

Oh yea, thanks for the first in the morning laugh. hahaha

Thanks 1BAD I appreciate your support, and yes the product can be used with other waxes and polishes. I know through actual experience that the
Mothers F/X Synthetic wax looks superb over top of the liquid Ice Polish (make sure to remove the polish first....I don't want to misinform anyone)
If you get the chance 1BAD try the F/X all by itself because I think with Black, the wax will take to it like a Duck to Water.
Oh you are welcome for the morning chuckle, the pleasure was all mine.
Talk to ya later. :)

jlandbl
07-10-2007, 01:53 PM
There have been so many postive postings lately about the ICE products that I purchased them the other day and hope to use this weekend. Can't wait.

luvr 6.1
07-10-2007, 03:02 PM
There have been so many postive postings lately about the ICE products that I purchased them the other day and hope to use this weekend. Can't wait.

You'll love it!
:D