Check out the features on the Iphone. I am loving this phone even without owning it yet.

http://www.apple.com/iphone/usingiphone/guidedtour_large.html

I can't wait :)

us phone junkys have been waiting years for this baby!!! and finally!!! not even a week away :D

B&G mod or I phone mod??..

I just bought an ic902, for $450 you get the newest most advanced phone Nextel has ever offered, which is equivalent to what all the other carriers were offering 2 years ago at half the cost. God I hate Nextel. :mad:

I just bought an ic902, for $450 you get the newest most advanced phone Nextel has ever offered, which is equivalent to what all the other carriers were offering 2 years ago at half the cost. God I hate Nextel. :mad:

haha i worked for nextel for about 4 years. I quit a couple months after hybrids came out, buddys still work there though. I heard that phone is pretty nice, good luck, b/c all there phones break/suck

:D

I can't wait :)


You are SUCH a phone whore!!! :p :p

I'll be lined up on launch day for an iPhone too.....hehehe

a few of you know I am not a fan of this phone... I admit its pretty damn cool!

but..

I am so bitter because I have to deal with all the people who are currently with verizon asking if they can get it for verizon! I get asked every day about the iPhone!

I got TMobile so I get no love yet for this phone, but it looks suhweet! Nextel sux azz. They wouldn't know customer service if it bit them. I gladly switched from them 4 years ago.

I got TMobile so I get no love yet for this phone, but it looks suhweet! Nextel sux azz. They wouldn't know customer service if it bit them. I gladly switched from them 4 years ago.

Rumor has it that T-Mobile will be the next carrier to get the iPhone. T-Mobile is the only carrier whose network is capable of supporting all of the phones unique features, other than AT&T/Cingular of course.

I know they have that 5 year exclusive, but I'd be shocked if it lasts that long.

What is sad is that the iPhone is behind what is already out over seas

Here ya go....

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/06/18iphone.html

They made it better than before

What is sad is that the iPhone is behind what is already out over seas

Here ya go....

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/06/18iphone.html

They made it better than before

Already behind? Huh?

Show me another phone that features a glass screen, mutli-touch interface, Google Maps integration with GPS location, integrated touch screen wide-screen iPod, selective voicemail, full screen software keyboard, oh and that runs OS X and Safari. So one can only imagine the pleathora of software that is going to come out for this "convergence" device. The SOFTWARE is what makes the iPhone superior to anything before it...not to mention the incredible hardware and the method in which it integrates.

I'm sorry, but truth is...an iPhone only sucks when you can't have one.

Id wait off on getting the Iphone until all the major bugs are worked out. Apple always seems to hype up their big problem products.

I have the MDA through TMo and I can mod my phone to have programs run like the Iphone. For example, I can have my Contacts scroll just like the Iphone. Pretty cool feature.

If Apple has any business sense whatsoever, theyll open the phone to TMobile and all the other carriers. It will triple their earnings.

Already behind? Huh?

Show me another phone that features a glass screen, mutli-touch interface, Google Maps integration with GPS location, integrated touch screen wide-screen iPod, selective voicemail, full screen software keyboard, oh and that runs OS X and Safari. So one can only imagine the pleathora of software that is going to come out for this "convergence" device. The SOFTWARE is what makes the iPhone superior to anything before it...not to mention the incredible hardware and the method in which it integrates.

I'm sorry, but truth is...an iPhone only sucks when you can't have one.

There is no arguing with a mac guy! I can't name a specific phone that is better. There are those with better cameras, live tv, music (ipod does not make it better), plenty of phones with full screen keyboards, and gps built in.


I am just saying there are phones overseas that can do more then the iphone in specific genres. It depends what you are into. Plus it is a GSM phone and as far as being in the US you can't beat a CDMA network. I would get the phone if it was CDMA.

I wonder how its going to work in the winter with gloves on? I work outside!

My brother in law has know bout this for some time and has not stopped talking about it, only 4-5 battery life though, with every plus there is a minus.

Id wait off on getting the Iphone until all the major bugs are worked out. Apple always seems to hype up their big problem products.

I have the MDA through TMo and I can mod my phone to have programs run like the Iphone. For example, I can have my Contacts scroll just like the Iphone. Pretty cool feature.

If Apple has any business sense whatsoever, theyll open the phone to TMobile and all the other carriers. It will triple their earnings.


What major product doesn't have bugs when first released? Vista, Firefox, PS3's, SRT8's?

Also, do not forget about ECON 101. Low supply = high demand. When demand is high and the market is cornered, Apple can charge higher prices for the iphone for a longer period of time. Compared to flooding the market and letting the market set the price, exclusivity is a better option. ATT has 24% market share anyways, they could care less about smaller carriers right now. Remember, three major carriers, Cingular, Verizon, and Sprint, comprise 72% of the overall market share. And as I will explain in the next paragraph, Apple was forced to pick from a dichotomy.

It is not feasible for Verizon and ATT to both carry the iphone initially , because these companies operate two entirely different network protocols. Verizon uses CDMA (code division multiple access) while ATT uses GSM (Global system mobile). A phone's operating system can only be programmed to interact with one of the above networks. In fact, not one single phone on the market can use both CDMA and GSM networks. Sure the Razr is everywhere, but it took years to design different models that are applicable to different carriers. This is why Apple can only sign with one major carrier, it would require too much R&D money to release two versions of one phone right away, and since GSM monopolizes 73% of the global market, versus CDMA's 14%, the decision is a no-brainer. BTW, T-Mobile uses ATT's towers, so they will most likely be next in line for the iphone. Sorry Verizon, you were approached first :(

In fact, not one phone on the market can use both CDMA and GSM networks. This is why Apple can only sign with one major carrier, and since GSM monopolizes 73% of the global market, versus CDMA's 14%, the decision is a no-brainer. BTW, T-Mobile uses ATT's towers, so they will most likely be next in line for the iphone. Sorry Verizon, you were approached first :(

I have the Blackberry 8830 and in fact can use both GSM and CDMA and there are others that can do that same (Samsung i830).

Is the iPhone going to be marketed in foreign markets? If not then why wouldn't Verizon pick it up? I haven't read anything about verizon being offered the phone.... news to me. CDMA dominates the US market and GSM foreign markets...and GSM (global system for mobile communications)

I have the Blackberry 8830 and in fact can use both GSM and CDMA and there are others that can do that same (Samsung i830).

Is the iPhone going to be marketed in foreign markets? If not then why wouldn't Verizon pick it up? I haven't read anything about verizon being offered the phone.... news to me. CDMA dominates the US market and GSM foreign markets...and GSM (global system for mobile communications)

* CDMA: stands for Code Division Multiple Access. Both data and voice are separated from signals using codes and then transmited using a wide frequency range. Because of this, there are more space left for data transfer (this was one of the reasons why CDMA is the prefered technology for the 3G generation, which is broadband access and the use of big multimedia messages). 14% of the worldwide market goes to CDMA. For the 3G generation CDMA uses 1x EV-DO and EV-DV. It has a lot of users in Asia, specially in South Korea.
* GSM: stands for Global System Mobile. Even though it is sold as "the latest technology" in several countries, this technology is older than CDMA (and also TDMA). But keep in mind that this doesn't mean that GSM is inferior or worse than CDMA. Roaming readiness and fraud prevention are two major advantages from this technology. GSM is the most used cell phone technology in the world, with 73% of the worldwide market. It has a very strong presence in Europe.

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/151


Show me an article that says CDMA domiantes America...

I have the Blackberry 8830 and in fact can use both GSM and CDMA and there are others that can do that same (Samsung i830).

Is the iPhone going to be marketed in foreign markets? If not then why wouldn't Verizon pick it up? I haven't read anything about verizon being offered the phone.... news to me. CDMA dominates the US market and GSM foreign markets...and GSM (global system for mobile communications)


8830's can run CDMA and GSM, because two versions are available, but one single phone cannot run both networks, Reread my sentence.

I haven't read anything about verizon being offered the phone.... news to me. (global system for mobile communications)


Don't you work for Verizon?




"NEW YORK — Verizon Wireless, the No. 2 U.S. cellphone carrier, passed on the chance to be the exclusive distributor of the iPhone almost two years ago, balking at Apple's rich financial terms and other demands.

Among other things, Apple wanted a percentage of the monthly cellphone fees, say over how and where iPhones could be sold and control of the relationship with iPhone customers, said Jim Gerace, a Verizon Wireless vice president. "We said no. We have nothing bad to say about the Apple iPhone. We just couldn't reach a deal that was mutually beneficial."

Verizon's decision to pull the plug on talks sent Apple into the waiting arms of Cingular, which will be the exclusive U.S. carrier for the iPhone. The multifunction device is expected to ship in June and cost about $500.

VERIZON Q4 EARNINGS: Profit falls, beats estimates

Apple and Cingular (which now is solely owned by AT&T and adopting that brand name) have declined to discuss terms of their alliance. But the Apple-Verizon talks offer a peek into the computer giant's thinking.

According to Verizon, Apple CEO Steve Jobs insisted that he have hard control over iPhone distribution.

The problem? While Apple and Verizon stores would have it, Wal-Mart, Best Buy and other Verizon distributors could have been left out. "That would have put our own distribution partners at a disadvantage" to Apple and Verizon stores, Gerace said.

Customer care was another hitch: If an iPhone went haywire, Apple wanted sole discretion over whether to replace or repair the phone. "They would have been stepping in between us and our customers to the point where we would have almost had to take a back seat … on hardware and service support," Gerace says.

Cingular won't talk about the financial terms or say how long its iPhone exclusivity lasts, but two people with direct knowledge of the deal say it's a five-year contract. The exclusive is USA-only, leaving Apple free to market its iPhone globally.

Natalie Kerris, an Apple spokeswoman, declined to comment on any aspect of this story.

Mark Siegel, a Cingular spokesman, said, "We think this is a win for Apple, and it is a win for Cingular."

Siegel declined to comment on customer care plans but said Cingular would field calls related to the wireless service. "I don't want to leave the impression that these (iPhone) customers are not ours. They are."

Siegel would not say whether Cingular distributors, which include Wal-Mart and RadioShack, would get the iPhone. The deal announcement referred only to Cingular and Apple stores and their websites."



http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2007-01-28-verizon-iphone_x.htm

In fact, Verizon WAS offered the phone. They were the first to be offered the iPhone but they passed on it since it does not support CDMA, and most of Verizons network is still only CDMA.

AT&T on the other hand, has the largest fully digital network.

* CDMA: stands for Code Division Multiple Access. Both data and voice are separated from signals using codes and then transmited using a wide frequency range. Because of this, there are more space left for data transfer (this was one of the reasons why CDMA is the prefered technology for the 3G generation, which is broadband access and the use of big multimedia messages). 14% of the worldwide market goes to CDMA. For the 3G generation CDMA uses 1x EV-DO and EV-DV. It has a lot of users in Asia, specially in South Korea.
* GSM: stands for Global System Mobile. Even though it is sold as "the latest technology" in several countries, this technology is older than CDMA (and also TDMA). But keep in mind that this doesn't mean that GSM is inferior or worse than CDMA. Roaming readiness and fraud prevention are two major advantages from this technology. GSM is the most used cell phone technology in the world, with 73% of the worldwide market. It has a very strong presence in Europe.

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/151



Show me an article that says CDMA domiantes America...

First I will start with the GSM def--- www.phonescoop.com a well know site for cell phones

http://www.phonescoop.com/glossary/term.php?gid=3

OK...better in the US then GSM. I guess I did not state it correct!

CDMA requires fewer cell sites than the GSM and TDMA digital cell phone systems and provides three to five times the calling capacity. In mobile phone systems, a handoff is the process of transferring a phone call in progress from one base station (tower) to another base station, without interruption of the call.
--"Soft" handoffs are unique to systems based on CDMA technology. Durring a soft handoff, a phone may be actively connected to multiple base stations simultaneously.
--This contrasts with non-CDMA systems, such as GSM, where a phone may only be actively connected to one tower at a time. On such systems, handoffs are "hard", meaning they happen at a specific moment when the call is shifted completely from one base station to another. GSM has more international applications, but towers contain much less bandwith capacity, thus less calling capacity. Making for a greater chance for a dropped call!! You can hold less callers on a tower and then when its time to transfer to a new tower there is a great chance for that tower to be full and the connection is lost.
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http://www.windowsfordevices.com/news/NS2648329910.html

"Mar. 20, 2003

A recently study by EMC Market Data reports that the US handset market attained 141.4 million cellular phone subscribers as of December 2002, surpassing 50% penetration. The report observes that CDMA technology currently dominates the US market, and is likely to continue to do so through 2007, despite the challenge from GSM, the dominant mobile phone standard in Europe and several other markets."

"The EMC study notes that CDMA technology currently leads the US market, with a 43% market share, and that GSM currently accounts for just 11% of the market, up from from 6% in 1999. However, EMC projects that by 2007 GSM will have grown to 33% of the US market, whereas CDMA will remain flat, expanding its share by a single percentage point from 2002."

I know that is old but... it works

http://mytreo.net/treofaq/CDMAvsGSM

"GSM (Global System for Mobile Communications). "

Conclusion

If you like in the US and never travel oversees then CDMA appears to have many advantages over GSM, but if you live outside the US or travel oversees a lot then GSM is the only way to go!

Verizon has not joined with another carrier since 2000. Verizon has now taken over the US now holding the most customers then any single carrier in the US.

"It took some time, but Verizon Wireless has clawed its way back to the top of the pile, as IDC now says that Verizon's 56.8 million U.S. subscribers has caused AT&T to fall into second place in the country with 56.3 million subs. Add the fact that Verizon Wireless also has the top spot for wireless data usage and percent of subscriber revenue used on data, and pow -- AT&T just got dealt a blow. "

NOW at over 58 million customers.

I may not know a whole lot about the iPhone but I know a lot about the technology surrounding cell phones.


In fact, Verizon WAS offered the phone. They were the first to be offered the iPhone but they passed on it since it does not support CDMA, and most of Verizons network is still only CDMA.

AT&T on the other hand, has the largest fully digital network.

AT&T has the largest GSM network in the US.

I didn't say VZW wasn't offered the phone, I said I hadn't heard of it. In February Verizon will REPLACE the very small amount of analog with digital and then "may" have more coverage (as of current maps).
Why would Apple offer a GSM phone to a CDMA network? They can make the phone CDMA and GSM. Plenty of carriers share the same phone with different technology.

First I will start with the GSM def--- www.phonescoop.com a well know site for cell phones

http://www.phonescoop.com/glossary/term.php?gid=3

OK...better in the US then GSM. I guess I did not state it correct!

CDMA requires fewer cell sites than the GSM and TDMA digital cell phone systems and provides three to five times the calling capacity. In mobile phone systems, a handoff is the process of transferring a phone call in progress from one base station (tower) to another base station, without interruption of the call.
--"Soft" handoffs are unique to systems based on CDMA technology. Durring a soft handoff, a phone may be actively connected to multiple base stations simultaneously.
--This contrasts with non-CDMA systems, such as GSM, where a phone may only be actively connected to one tower at a time. On such systems, handoffs are "hard", meaning they happen at a specific moment when the call is shifted completely from one base station to another. GSM has more international applications, but towers contain much less bandwith capacity, thus less calling capacity. Making for a greater chance for a dropped call!! You can hold less callers on a tower and then when its time to transfer to a new tower there is a great chance for that tower to be full and the connection is lost.
___________________________________
http://www.windowsfordevices.com/news/NS2648329910.html

"Mar. 20, 2003

A recently study by EMC Market Data reports that the US handset market attained 141.4 million cellular phone subscribers as of December 2002, surpassing 50% penetration. The report observes that CDMA technology currently dominates the US market, and is likely to continue to do so through 2007, despite the challenge from GSM, the dominant mobile phone standard in Europe and several other markets."

"The EMC study notes that CDMA technology currently leads the US market, with a 43% market share, and that GSM currently accounts for just 11% of the market, up from from 6% in 1999. However, EMC projects that by 2007 GSM will have grown to 33% of the US market, whereas CDMA will remain flat, expanding its share by a single percentage point from 2002."

I know that is old but... it works

http://mytreo.net/treofaq/CDMAvsGSM

"GSM (Global System for Mobile Communications). "

Conclusion

If you like in the US and never travel oversees then CDMA appears to have many advantages over GSM, but if you live outside the US or travel oversees a lot then GSM is the only way to go!

Verizon has not joined with another carrier since 2000. Verizon has now taken over the US now holding the most customers then any single carrier in the US.

"It took some time, but Verizon Wireless has clawed its way back to the top of the pile, as IDC now says that Verizon's 56.8 million U.S. subscribers has caused AT&T to fall into second place in the country with 56.3 million subs. Add the fact that Verizon Wireless also has the top spot for wireless data usage and percent of subscriber revenue used on data, and pow -- AT&T just got dealt a blow. "

NOW at over 58 million customers.

I may not know a whole lot about the iPhone but I know a lot about the technology surrounding cell phones.

I don't think you know anything. You post an article that is four years outdated, and expect to pawn it off as bona fide? Can't you find anything current, especially since you are an industry insider??

OK, Verizon has 56.8, and ATT has 56.3 - hardly domination :rolleyes: :eek: :rolleyes: Source for the numbers?

I don't think you know anything. You post an article that is four years outdated, and expect to pawn it off as bona fide? Can't you find anything current, especially since you are an industry insider??

OK, Verizon has 56.8, and ATT has 56.3 - hardly domination :rolleyes: :eek: :rolleyes:


I said it was OLD! Also, I also said Verizon has 58 million now. Verizon has 58 million customers and they have not combined with a single carrier to expand that number. ATT grew to that size due to the cingular deal. It takes something worth while to get to a number that size on your own. It took them 7 years but they did it. They were the largest before the att merger with cingular a few years ago.

And source for those numbers:

Engadget Mobile.com
4/11/2007

man..I got us cellular and that sh*t sucks...our newest and most high tech phone is the motorola Krzr - the only reason i'm still with them is because they're reception is great and i've been locked into a $99.00 unlimited minutes within the us plan for yeeeaars

man..I got us cellular and that sh*t sucks...our newest and most high tech phone is the motorola Krzr - the only reason i'm still with them is because they're reception is great and i've been locked into a $99.00 unlimited minutes within the us plan for yeeeaars

US Cellular is a regional company and they have the best coverage for Chicago.

If nobody wants my opinion on cell phones then look into consumer reports. Thats done by the users of the phones. 5 years of testing and 5 years in a row verizon has been #1. First time verizon lost a metro city that they tested was a year ago in Chicago against US Cellular. Obviously as previously stated I don't know anything... so read consumer reports. They subscribe to give their opinion rather then being paid to give it.

US Cellular is a regional company and they have the best coverage for Chicago.

If nobody wants my opinion on cell phones then look into consumer reports. Thats done by the users of the phones. 5 years of testing and 5 years in a row verizon has been #1. First time verizon lost a metro city that they tested was a year ago in Chicago against US Cellular. Obviously as previously stated I don't know anything... so read consumer reports. They subscribe to give their opinion rather then being paid to give it.

Oh no the service and reception are awesome, I just wish that the cdma network they have would get some cooler phones thats all.

oh and Mango....


http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/06/21/atandt-begins-shutdown-of-amps-and-tdma-networks/

AT&T begins shutdown of AMPS and TDMA networks
"We all knew this day would come -- AT&T has announced a shutdown schedule for its national TDMA and analog cellular wireless networks now that almost all of its customers are using its national GSM network. "

Not all digital yet!


Oh no the service and reception are awesome, I just wish that the cdma network they have would get some cooler phones thats all.

Then switch networks. The most recent CR doesn't even count US Cell anymore.

I love that phone but have two major issues with it.

Just like the Ipod, the battery is sealed and not replaceable :mad: On an Ipod they charge you $150 :(

It handles most email except outlook. I currently have a blackberry because it is a work phone but I have to have outlook email access, so I would need to have two phones.

Other than those issues it is a work of art and probably the most intelligent portable device design I have ever seen.

All of you naysayers...please...watch the guided tour then go STFU :)

http://www.apple.com/iphone/


After watching that, there is no denying the iPhone is the greatest "convergence device", and phone, ever created.

Im switching to AT&T in Nov when my plan is up.... here i come iPhone :)

OZ I have tmobile as well. Since it is a GSM phone I am sure they will be able to unlock it, maybe not right away, but it will happen.

You guys are all HUGE NERDS.



:)

I think the IPhone is going to be a great phone. It has all of the features that anyone could want on a phone. However, like it has been stated before, because it uses GSM, the limiting factor on this phone will be slow internet access.

When I was in the states, I was using T-Mobile with EDGE services. It was unbearable. I also used EVDO on Verizon and it was light years ahead of EDGE.

Now that I am living in Korea, I am using a 3G phone and I literally get broadband speeds out of my phone. On top of that I get a cool looking phone (Not as cool looking as the IPhone) and the capabilities of doing Video calls if I choose.

When I am on the road, I usually connect my phone to my notebook and surf as if I am sitting at home.

I guess my point is what is the use in having this great phone with all of the gadgets when the infrastructure it is riding on won't allow it to be used to its full potential?

^^^ iPhone has Wifi and a complete web browser, not that PDA web bullsh!t.

I know that the cingular/ at&t stores are closing on the 29th at 4:30 and reopening at 6:00p.m for the launch of the iphone. Dont expect to get an iphone at 8:00a.m on the 29th. Also, i was wondering since there has never been a cell phone this anticipated, how many units are they expecting per store, and should we try to get there early?!

^^ ^ There are 40-50 units allocated to each store, initially.

At the Mall of America, the ATT store expects people to start to line-up @ 8:00 AM. The store will close @ 4:30, and at 6:00, and armed security guard will allow people into the store, in increments of four, until supplies are depleted.

I'll be waiting outside the AT&T/Cingular store that's about a mile from my house.

Yes...I'm an Apple Fanboy. :)

On the AppleTV launch day, I was 1st in line at my store, on the OS X Tiger launch I was first, so it's only right I"m first for this! lol

I did get free Gift Certificates for fancy restaurants each time too.

what time do you plan on getting there mango? im trying to decide whats smart, and whats just flat crazy! i'm not bringin a damn tent to get a phone haha! but i dont mind getting there a little early great product though!

For the other releases...I've arrived anywhere from 2 hours to 6 hours early. For this, I'll probably arrive at like 2 or 3pm and just chill with my macbook pro outside. Theres a Subway right next door and they have WiFi that reaches outside. :)

I'll be waiting outside the AT&T/Cingular store that's about a mile from my house.

Yes...I'm an Apple Fanboy. :)

On the AppleTV launch day, I was 1st in line at my store, on the OS X Tiger launch I was first, so it's only right I"m first for this! lol

I did get free Gift Certificates for fancy restaurants each time too.


Do you like your apple tv? You got the smaller one since you were first right? I want the 160gb one. Worth the money?

Do you like your apple tv? You got the smaller one since you were first right? I want the 160gb one. Worth the money?

Dude, I LOVE it!! I never thought I would use it as much as I do. I have two AppleTV's. I got the 40gig 1st Gen, and bought a 160Gig 2nd Gen. The smaller one is in my bedroom and the big one is connected to my home theater.

It's a lot of fun, and I found myself subscribing to lots of quality Video Podcasts, like motortrend, some technology podcasts, TikiBar (they teach you how to make drinks), and lots of other fun stuff. YouTube integration is actually wonderfully done as well. The real beauty is for the TVShows and Music.

I find it works fantastic as an extension to what you already use. Makes your media much more accessible and easier to enjoy.

Dude, I LOVE it!! I never thought I would use it as much as I do. I have two AppleTV's. I got the 40gig 1st Gen, and bought a 160Gig 2nd Gen. The smaller one is in my bedroom and the big one is connected to my home theater.

It's a lot of fun, and I found myself subscribing to lots of quality Video Podcasts, like motortrend, some technology podcasts, TikiBar (they teach you how to make drinks), and lots of other fun stuff. YouTube integration is actually wonderfully done as well. The real beauty is for the TVShows and Music.

I find it works fantastic as an extension to what you already use. Makes your media much more accessible and easier to enjoy.

Once I put my Avic D3 in my car I started subscribing to more and more shows and podcasts as well. I get to places early so I watch tv!

But, I think the apple tv will work great for me. I am going with the 160.

Haha slick!

It's really a myth that the size of the AppleTV severely limits it. It can draw from many sources. So, whatever is not directly ON the hard drive in the appletv can just be streamed through your network from whatever PC it's on. Works especially well on 802.11n networks, for the sustained high data rate.

Haha slick!

It's really a myth that the size of the AppleTV severely limits it. It can draw from many sources. So, whatever is not directly ON the hard drive in the appletv can just be streamed through your network from whatever PC it's on. Works especially well on 802.11n networks, for the sustained high data rate.

I played with one at circuit city and its like having a huge dvd changer with all the pictures but its a lot quicker to flick through movies and shows.

One thing though, the guys at circuit said the hdmi didn't look as well as the component cables.... which makes no sense to me.

They have no idea what they are talking about. The HDMI looks fantastic. I have it connected to my Sony 70" 1080p set, looks incredible. I bet they didn't adjust the resolution in the settings menu.

Download a HD video podcast and play it through the AppleTV on a high def tv. Then prepare to be blown away. :)

The max resolution for the AppleTV is 1080i btw.

I will try to find a 160 today in town. I don't know if anybody has them yet in stores.

just go to www.apple.com and find the closest Apple Store. They have them. You might also want to check a nearby CompUSA, Best Buy, or Circuit City. :)

When you get it set up, and synced to your iTunes account, you should FIRST run the update and download the 1.1firmware update. Don't let the AppleTV sync your content until this is done. Also, for a firs time sync, connect it using an Ethernet cable directly to your computer. this is MUCH faster than doing it all wirelessly the first time.

LOL Look at these insane people. This is so funny. Someone wants to hire a person to wait in line for 60 hours for them. LOL!!!

http://news.com.com/8301-10784_3-9734051-7.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-5

just go to www.apple.com and find the closest Apple Store. They have them. You might also want to check a nearby CompUSA, Best Buy, or Circuit City. :)

When you get it set up, and synced to your iTunes account, you should FIRST run the update and download the 1.1firmware update. Don't let the AppleTV sync your content until this is done. Also, for a firs time sync, connect it using an Ethernet cable directly to your computer. this is MUCH faster than doing it all wirelessly the first time.

Thats good info to know. The closest apple store is about a hour away so I would order it from apple if I can't find it in my town at BB or CC.

I tried to pay a friend to get me a PS3. He wasn't liking the idea.

First Apple iPhone shipments arrive stateside

By Kasper Jade

Published: 10:00 AM EST
The first retail-bound volume shipments of Apple Inc.'s hotly anticipated iPhone device arrived successfully in the United States this past weekend, touching down quietly at a handful of drop locations just six days before the device is due to go on sale at nearly 2000 Apple and AT&T retail locations.


People familiar with the matter say the intrinsically valuable freight was carried inbound by a certain Hong Kong-based air courier, which services Atlanta, Chicago, Dallas, Los Angeles, New York and San Francisco. The early arrival is to assure the cargo can clear customs with enough time to handle unexpected delays, those people said.

Awaiting the freight at each location on Sunday were armed personnel, who were reportedly hired by Apple through its courier's ground handling agent and then cleared by the Transportation Security Administration. Armed guards are extremely unusual for freight coming out of the Asian sector, those familiar with the matter explained, and are typically reserved for shipments containing riches such as gold and diamonds.

Once on the ground, the iPhone shipments were to be broken down under the watch of the armed personnel, who would then observe the loading of the freight onto ground vehicles and become party to its transportation outbound.

It remains unclear where the eagerly sought Apple gadgets will spend the better part of the business week ahead of their planned launch Friday afternoon at 6:00 p.m. local time. It's possible, however, they could begin turning up in stockrooms of Apple and AT&T retail stores days in advance.

Apple management on Sunday began informing its retail personnel that beginning Monday, no cameras of any kind will be allowed in the back stockrooms of its retail outlets. The ban reportedly spans all cell phones -- regardless of whether they contain camera functionality -- and all personally owned Apple notebooks that feature built-in iSight video cameras.

This past weekend, Apple retail stores nationwide began preparing for Friday's iPhone launch with new planogram layouts, employee attire, and window displays that feature 4-foot iPhone replicas equipped with massive LCD displays screens

Haha yeah, I just read that exact article GF.

I called the apple store and at&t to find out if I can just buy the phone without signing up for their service. No one has any idea as to what is going on. The apple store told me that between 4:30 and 6pm this friday is when they will get the info, nothing before then.

The phone can be purchased from Apple Stores without the service. Apple stores will be selling them as well as ONLY AT&T owned stores. Not independent retailers.

The phones from Apple Stores will requier activation, either done online or through another AT&T /Cingular outlet.

Apple will also sell the phone through the online store.

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070615/at_t_iphone.html?.v=4

Be sure your local Cingular/AT&T store is owned directly by AT&T, or else you could be wasting time waiting.

First a LEO and now a teacher - where the he!! do you get all your toys? You gotta have something on the side cause I know what teachers and LEO's make! I am jealous - I'm still saving for an SRT

I didn't make sh*t as an LEO. I make FAR.....FAR more as a teacher. :) :)

Not to mention, during the school year I'm working nearly 80 hours a week.....between coaching, weekend responsibilities, etc. NJ and CA have the highest teacher salaries in the country, too.

He is from Jersery you know, and we all know a powerful family out there that just recently signed off on HBO. :eek:

Hey, I DO know people....who know people....who can do things.

I'm going to get the papers, get the papers.

I didn't make sh*t as an LEO. I make FAR.....FAR more as a teacher. :) :)

Not to mention, during the school year I'm working nearly 80 hours a week.....between coaching, weekend responsibilities, etc. NJ and CA have the highest teacher salaries in the country, too.

Oh, I hear you - it's getting old! Looking at other opportunities right now - just keeping my fingers crossed

but come on. $500 for a damn cell phone.

Its not that bad actually. I as well as other on here have spent alot more for phones with a lot less features. It will be an interesting toy.

What it has:
• Built-in iPod with Video playback
• Intelligent predictive typing
• Multi-touch interface (fast)
• Great scratch resistant screen (easily cleaned with your sleeve)
• Tilt sensors that lock the screen when up to your face, but unlocks it when you lower it to type numbers
• Screen that's visible in direct sunlight
• Software upgrades over time
• Decent voice quality
• Call and song control from its headphones
• Viewing Word, Excel and PDF documents
• Free live traffic in Google Maps
• Turn by turn directions that simulate a GPS (need to tell the phone when you're turning)
• Dedicated volume control and mute switch
• Microsoft Exchange support if your IT staff enables a setting on the server
• Push email via Yahoo Mail
• Syncing via Outlook calendar and contacts through iTunes (works even on Vista with the latest Outlook)
• Ability to play with other applications while you talk
• Good battery life
• A "real" browser
• Yahoo, Gmail, AOL, EarthLink, and various other email support
• Visual voicemail (support for rewinding, fast forwarding like a song)
• YouTube support
• Decent 2-megapixel camera
• It's thin
• Lots of eye candy
• Conference call with up to 5 people
• Built-in speakers if you don't want to use headphones
• Quicktime support in Safari


What it doesn't have:
• Support for all iPod accessories—doesn't support all car adapters for playing back, only charging
• An easy way to transfer phone numbers, via AT&T, from an existing phone
• Copy and paste support
• MP3/iTunes music ringtones• Built-in game support
• Flash support anywhere (including browser)
• Instant Messaging
• Picture messaging (MMS)
• Video recording
• Voice recognition or voice dialing
• Wireless Bluetooth Stereo Streaming (A2DP support)
• One-size-fits-all headset jack (May have to buy an adapter for certain headphones)
• 3G (EV-DO/HSDPA)
• A hardware keyboard
• GPS
• Removable battery
• Expandable Storage
• Direct iTunes Music Store Access (Over Wi-Fi or EDGE)
• BlackBerry support
• Flash or zoom on the camera• Windows Media support


Known Problems:
• Can get a little warm after use
• Battery will need to be replaced by Apple after 300-400 charges
• Levy had problems with one of his email accounts, due to his ISP blocking port 25. Apple's engineers "suggested a fix and said that this was something that would probably be addressed in an update."
• EDGE data is very slow
• AT&T's signal is lousy
• No hardware playback buttons make you go back to the iPod app to change songs or stop music
• Takes more taps to reach the phone interface than other smartphones
• Getting your contacts onto here from your old phone may be a hassle
• No real-time navigation
• The few web-app programs Mossberg tried weren't' impressive
• Camera is only good with ample light and no motion
• Only 200 text messages included on any calling plan

I spent $450 on my MDA last year. I cant imagine spending that much money on a phone again. Pretty soon, phones are gonna cost over $1k. Cant wait...

Anyone see any potential problems with it pairing with our Uconnect? It's not listed on the blueconnect web site compatability chart yet.

Anyone see any potential problems with it pairing with our Uconnect? It's not listed on the blueconnect web site compatability chart yet.

I'm expecting it should work ok, I'll let you know tomorrow after 6pm EST.

If you have an iPod interface it will probably have issues as folks are expecting it to turn off all the phone functions when connected to one, will let you know about that too.

check this out....

Jobs pulls an Oprah -- $12M in iPhones for all Apple employees

http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/06/28/jobs-pulls-an-oprah-12m-in-iphones-for-all-apple-employees/

iLoser retains place in line, crisis averted

http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/06/28/iloser-retains-place-in-line-crisis-averted/

Just got back home after standing in line for a few minutes/hours. Actual time inside the AppleStore was less than 5 minutes in total.

Activated the thing on line with the new iTunes, that took 2 minutes.

Jeep stuff:

1) It does seem to Work with the ipod interface but you don't get the jeep logo you get a warning message about it may not work completely on the screen but I was able to play tunes just fine.

2) Uconnect. Paired just fine, made a call from the iPhone (it asks which device you want to use to call through, uconnect was on the list after pairing). I was also able to use the Uconnect's dial function to dial 411 via voice

So pretty good news overall, oh yeah, the iphone is elegant as heck, take a look if you wander by a store that has one. I'll upload some crappy pics I took with my treo in bit.

With Mopar iPod Interface:

http://assets.mixcast.tv/other/chris/062907/iphone-ipod-accessorymode.jpg


With Uconnect:

http://assets.mixcast.tv/other/chris/062907/iphone-ipairing.jpg


http://assets.mixcast.tv/other/chris/062907/iphone-uconnect.jpg