I GOT A WOODY...FOR BWOODY!!!

Ok I couldn't resist, I'm sorry... :p :p

I never imagined these 4 little unassuming pipes would make such a drastic difference in the ride/handling of our trucks. But by gosh....they've done it.
:D

***WARNING*** While test driving after installing these...make sure you practice the "evasive lane change" manuever in a safe area...preferebly on a wide street...with no poles nearby....and with an empty truck. I did this on the back road near my house with some paintball gear, my track helmet, and some school stuff in the back seat. I swung the truck to the left, then right, and stuff flew ALL over the inside of my truck. It stayed so flat, so controlled...my Dad and I looked at eachother and said "Holy sh*t!"

LOL It's GLUED to the ground. Feels like a new truck.

If you were a skilled enough driver, you could almost drift this truck through turns.


http://web.mac.com/jtrussell7/iWeb/John%27s%20Website/Library%2020_files/IMG_1398.jpg

http://web.mac.com/jtrussell7/iWeb/John%27s%20Website/Library%2020_files/IMG_1399.jpg

http://web.mac.com/jtrussell7/iWeb/John%27s%20Website/Library%2020_files/IMG_1400.jpg

http://web.mac.com/jtrussell7/iWeb/John%27s%20Website/Library%2020_files/IMG_1401.jpg

http://web.mac.com/jtrussell7/iWeb/John%27s%20Website/Library%2020_files/IMG_1402.jpg

Rear:

http://web.mac.com/jtrussell7/iWeb/John%27s%20Website/Library%2020_files/IMG_1403.jpg

http://web.mac.com/jtrussell7/iWeb/John%27s%20Website/Library%2020_files/IMG_1404.jpg

Notice the seperation at the top, I hope that's normal? Maybe Greg or someone from Bwoody can verify this?
http://web.mac.com/jtrussell7/iWeb/John%27s%20Website/Library%2020_files/IMG_1406.jpg


View from outside the vehicle! Cool that you can see them with the wheel cranked to the side. :)
http://web.mac.com/jtrussell7/iWeb/John%27s%20Website/Library%2020_files/IMG_1411.jpg

http://web.mac.com/jtrussell7/iWeb/John%27s%20Website/Library%2020_files/IMG_1412.jpg

THANKS Bwoody! You guys have definetly increased the FUN value of the truck tenfold.

JT your undercarrage is cleaner then mine, its making me sick. :)

Looks good BTW.

yes a little bit is normal. after a couple miles or so, just make sure thay stay tight. then it should be smooth sailing have fun with them

Hey Mango, did you do a back to back with your Dad's? It definitely felt tighter when doing the back and forth but I only have my truck to compare to. Flooring it around corners was smoother also.

Nice. I must buy soon.

why's there seperation at the top?

Tenfold better? I gotta get mine. I think I missed the GP by one day . . .

I'm very lucky where I live. I have my own testing facility (seems like it).

I'll get pics tomorrow outside. I have a beautiful new "S" curve, fresh blacktop as it's only 2 years old, then it pans out into a 1/2 mile straight away that goes slightly downhill, into a sweeping right hand turn. Believe me, I can fully test suspension components on this "track" of sorts.

I scare people in my GTI when I go full throttle around the turns. Back to back comparisons go like this:

Dads stock setup: S curve at 40mph feels alright, 45 a no-no, back end feels squirrly, front not very stable.

BWoody setup: S curve at 50 EASY, truck is FLAT throughout, at the top of the curve I can apply MORE throttle, feels as though I'm drifting out of the turn, I come out of the hole at the top of the turn at 55mph.

Take that for what you will, I'm not BSing you. Anyone in South Jersey please come drive this course with me and you will see.

Here is a pic of the Starlite Candy Red. How do you guys get the pic to actually be on the post instead of this link? I tried preview post and it still just showed the link.




http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w26/cmn1srt8/IMG_0762.jpg

why's there seperation at the top?
this is a non-binding design the swaybar links must still remain functional and free floating, without that it would ride like a tank.

Here is a pic of the Starlite Candy Red. How do you guys get the pic to actually be on the post instead of this link? I tried preview post and it still just showed the link.




http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w26/cmn1srt8/IMG_0762.jpg
here ill fix it for ya:

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w26/cmn1srt8/IMG_0762.jpg

this is a non-binding design the swaybar links must still remain functional and free floating, without that it would ride like a tank.


cool-thanks for the quick response

These things sound like the real deal. Nice to hear another opinion from an "unbiased" paying member.

...you did pay for the links didn't you Mango? Don't want to think this is some endorsement deal going on.;)

Thanks for the thread.

I see the front ones are visible with the wheels turned hard in either direction by are the rear ones visible when driving?

These things sound like the real deal. Nice to hear another opinion from an "unbiased" paying member.

...you did pay for the links didn't you Mango? Don't want to think this is some endorsement deal going on.;)

Thanks for the thread.


Of course I paid for them, just like everyone else! Worth EVERY penny!

I'm just happy to endorse a product from REAL enthusiasts that really WORKS!

Just looking out for everyone else, so they know what works and what does not. :)

here ill fix it for ya:

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w26/cmn1srt8/IMG_0762.jpg


Thanks a bunch

I am thinking of getting a set of these but would like to know if the rear ones are visible with the wheels on and the jeep sitting of the ground. Would a car behind you notice them when driving?

I still want to know how Mango keeps his undercarriage so clean. It baffles my mind.

neat looking- JT what is the cost ?
Thanks,
DMB

neat looking- JT what is the cost ?
Thanks,
DMB

http://www.cherokeesrt8.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4943

I am thinking of getting a set of these but would like to know if the rear ones are visible with the wheels on and the jeep sitting of the ground. Would a car behind you notice them when driving?


I would say no. To see the fronts you have to turn the wheel all the way to see them. The rear ones you can barely see. Need to look through driver's side wheel.

I would say no. To see the fronts you have to turn the wheel all the way to see them. The rear ones you can barely see. Need to look through driver's side wheel.

Maybe you can see the back ones better when your rolling at a decent clip. (Through the rim spokes. )

I want these on soon.
I got jack stands last night, and I forgot I needed to get a touque wrench. Arghhh!

I've bought more F-In tools for this Jeep then I've ever bought for all my previous cars together over the last 20 years!!!:D :D

T:cool:

Maybe you can see the back ones better when your rolling at a decent clip. (Through the rim spokes. )

I want these on soon.
I got jack stands last night, and I forgot I needed to get a touque wrench. Arghhh!

I've bought more F-In tools for this Jeep then I've ever bought for all my previous cars together over the last 20 years!!!:D :D

T:cool:
T....you aren't done yet either!
BTW, don't let the axles hang free and try to remove the bolts, jack it up a little and the bolts fall out.
Bill

T....you aren't done yet either!
BTW, don't let the axles hang free and try to remove the bolts, jack it up a little and the bolts fall out.
Bill

Well if I remember right your doing it the hard way..:D

Always appreciate the Pointers!!

T:cool:

Maybe you can see the back ones better when your rolling at a decent clip. (Through the rim spokes. )

I want these on soon.
I got jack stands last night, and I forgot I needed to get a touque wrench. Arghhh!

I've bought more F-In tools for this Jeep then I've ever bought for all my previous cars together over the last 20 years!!!:D :D

T:cool:

If you want to drive out to Addison. I have a torque wrench and jack stands.

Thanks Chad, I appreciate the offer. I'll going to try to get one tommorrow on Co. time. But if it's too pricy. I'll send ya a Pm.

Thanks Again,
T

Thanks Chad, I appreciate the offer. I'll going to try to get one tommorrow on Co. time. But if it's too pricy. I'll send ya a Pm.

Thanks Again,
T
No problem. Around $100 at Sears

Can these be installed with the wheels on, or must they come off?

Can these be installed with the wheels on, or must they come off?

Rear wheels off....front wheels on.

Can these be installed with the wheels on, or must they come off?

The backs you have to take the wheels off and for the fronts you can squeeze in without taking the wheel off even though I think it would make it a little easier if you take them off.

I need that

Do these affect the ride in any way ? I do mostly city and highway so I would not mind getting better handling as long as it does not compromise the ride.
I'm more of a straight line type, does it make it hook better at the strip?
Claude

Do these affect the ride in any way ? I do mostly city and highway so I would not mind getting better handling as long as it does not compromise the ride.
I'm more of a straight line type, does it make it hook better at the strip?
Claude

After the install, I did NOT notice any change in the ride characteristics.
It may however feel a little less roll in the corners.
I'm with you on the straight line stuff....I don't think you would see any difference, although they do look great (from under the JGC).
Bill

Damn, this is gonna be a slight problem for me, because the dealership that sold me my Jeep is out of state, and they did not include the wheel lock key. Wanted to do these tonight.

Anyway to do it with the wheels on, or definitely not?

Damn, this is gonna be a slight problem for me, because the dealership that sold me my Jeep is out of state, and they did not include the wheel lock key. Wanted to do these tonight.

Anyway to do it with the wheels on, or definitely not?
Not impossible, but it will be a pain!
Bill

Not impossible, but it will be a pain!
Bill

Friend has the tools to pop wheel locks off. I might just do that and get another set of locks.

Man those look nice. I've been racing my Jeep and would love to test these against my times up till now......

Man those look nice. I've been racing my Jeep and would love to test these against my times up till now......
Nitro,
You would be the perfect guy to test the links....road racing on your course.
They really do look good also.;)
Bill

with the wheels on it will be a pita. were all for someone posting test results. that way there is no biased coments on them.

with the wheels on it will be a pita. were all for someone posting test results. that way there is no biased coments on them.

I installed my sway bar links and are scheduled to run at another road course event in a few weeks. I have been at a few events without the upgraded sway bar links so I will make sure I post up my results.

keep us updated..

I installed my links today they went on very easy the front ones I installed on the ground I just turned the wheel in the opposite direction did not get a chance to test them out

Mango said this:

Notice the seperation at the top, I hope that's normal? Maybe Greg or someone from Bwoody can verify this?

I also had quite a gap (1/4") at the top of the passenger rear (between the plate and the link bushing). This probably varies a little bit with the build of each truck.

I know they said not to worry about it, but I just added a metal bushing (about 3/16") and put the washer on the inside. The result looks great!

Maybe you can see the back ones better when your rolling at a decent clip. (Through the rim spokes. )

I want these on soon.
I got jack stands last night, and I forgot I needed to get a touque wrench. Arghhh!

I've bought more F-In tools for this Jeep then I've ever bought for all my previous cars together over the last 20 years!!!:D :D

T:cool:


just curious...what do these get torqued to? also I have a drive on hoist in my shop...still need to jack it up to get the bolts out? Havent ordered these yet...but very tempted to! :cool:

just curious...what do these get torqued to? also I have a drive on hoist in my shop...still need to jack it up to get the bolts out? Havent ordered these yet...but very tempted to! :cool:
torque specs are on the instructions, you will need to remove the rear tires, fronts you can leave the tires on , less than a 1 hour install.

I installed my sway bar links and are scheduled to run at another road course event in a few weeks. I have been at a few events without the upgraded sway bar links so I will make sure I post up my results.

Are you James? How did the new sway bars work out for ya? :D