: Turbo @ 5.25 psi = 137 rw hp & 144 rw tq
John Hennessey 06-28-2006, 02:36 PM Charger SRT8. Stock heads, stock bottom end with Hennessey single turbo system. If we offer a mail order system this will likely be the set-up which we offer.
Dyno sheets to follow.
John Hennessey
www.HennesseyPerformance.com
tbyrne 06-28-2006, 02:39 PM About 26hp per # of boost. Not bad at all!!! :)
Grip Grip 06-28-2006, 04:38 PM Charger SRT8. Stock heads, stock bottom end with Hennessey single turbo system. If we offer a mail order system this will likely be the set-up which we offer.
Dyno sheets to follow.
John Hennessey
www.HennesseyPerformance.com
If you manage to beat GS Motorsport's SC pricing (7K) and offer them as a bolt-on kit that we can have locally installed, I'd expect them to sell like hot cakes!
John Hennessey 06-28-2006, 04:58 PM If you manage to beat GS Motorsport's SC pricing (7K) and offer them as a bolt-on kit that we can have locally installed, I'd expect them to sell like hot cakes!
our kit has too many additional items such as upgraded fuel pump, fuel injectors, blow off valve and a lot more stuff to be able to offer it that cheap. sorry.
mlssoc3 06-28-2006, 05:02 PM How much is the kit goin to cost?
John Hennessey 06-28-2006, 06:10 PM How much is the kit goin to cost?
if we offer this system as a mail order kit we would like to keep it around $10k.
auto addictions 06-28-2006, 07:25 PM $10,000 Ouch. Might As Well Go For 12,500 And Throw In A Few More Stickers.
mlssoc3 06-28-2006, 08:10 PM wow thats alot for a kit, especailly not intalled
John Hennessey 06-28-2006, 08:13 PM ok, well maybe we wont offer it as a mail order kit.
have any of you guys heard of nitrous? it works pretty well and its cheap too!
BLKltng 06-28-2006, 08:46 PM 10,000 isn't a bad price at all for a turbo kit with all the extras. Its expensive but worth it. Its a fair price.
Blades 06-28-2006, 08:50 PM Damn, don't take it personal. $10,000 IS a lot of money. Especially when not accounting install. Thats a fact. It is not an opinion, its a fact. Get all but hurt over facts and you might find yourself swimming in De Nile. Care to debate that?
I don't own a SRT8. So don't take it out on them and be like "Fine, I'm not giving you guys a turbo kit!". I'm talking about facts.
PS: Have you heard of turbo kits under $10,000? Its a rhetorical question; I know they exist. Nitrous kits that "work well" in comparison to turbo kits (as in, work 24/7. power always there).. Now thats something to talk about.
John Hennessey 06-28-2006, 10:19 PM Damn, don't take it personal. $10,000 IS a lot of money. Especially when not accounting install. Thats a fact. It is not an opinion, its a fact. Get all but hurt over facts and you might find yourself swimming in De Nile. Care to debate that?
I don't own a SRT8. So don't take it out on them and be like "Fine, I'm not giving you guys a turbo kit!". I'm talking about facts.
PS: Have you heard of turbo kits under $10,000? Its a rhetorical question; I know they exist. Nitrous kits that "work well" in comparison to turbo kits (as in, work 24/7. power always there).. Now thats something to talk about.
you are right. thus, we will not offer this system as a mail order kit any time soon.
TX SRT8 06-28-2006, 10:32 PM Don't change your plans because of one opinion. I would be interested in the kit. It would be hard to get my truck to Houston. Having it installed locally would be attractive to me even at $10K.
Blades 06-29-2006, 12:48 AM Don't change your plans because of one opinion. I would be interested in the kit. It would be hard to get my truck to Houston. Having it installed locally would be attractive to me even at $10K.
How was that an opinion? Don't have to answer that, not important.
Whats important is that if you have money - and he has a business - then you can do business. Hennessey even set the price and the parts list. I don't know of any logical business man that wouldn't want to make a few bucks.
*Opinion*I don't think he would be losing any money by making the above transaction. This opinion takes into account supply and demand - and how a bulk preorder of x amount of parts would theoretically reduce cost. That said, I'm sure a few kits share many duplicate parts and this wouldn't cut into his margin. Try a PM. Enough PMs (no pun) and he'll change his mind. What smart man wouldn't?*Opinion*
edit: *Opinion*Just a note. I would tend to avoid business with an indecisive businessman. In fact, I believe that said coupling of words to be an oxy moron. Indecisiveness belongs to the customer. If you think my words served as a catalyst to a change in your plans - don't *****. Be a man of action, not reflection - buy the damn kit.*Opinion*Just remember, anything is for sale.
copmagnet 06-29-2006, 08:43 AM Awesome results John! Looking forward to hearing more develop with this kit and maybe track times....
Also, to anyone concerned about the price.........since when did turbo systems become a bargain shopper mod? As far as most systems have been out, unless it's a diy used system, they've always been an efficient way to make more power with no parasitic loss, yet cost usually a good deal more then the traditional blower options..... There are many more modifications required with installing the systems and parts that need to be upgraded to properly function.. Not saying I would happily fork over a life savings for a turbo system, but no one's ever really made it a "save money with a turbo!!!!" mod........ I appreciate the fact that there will now be an alternative power adder available for our trucks with different power potential.... After considering turbo systems for my previous sports cars from Hennessy and Lingenfelter, $10,000 for a turbo system from a reputable manufacturer seems like a deal......
So again we should be happy there are alternatives becoming available for our SRT8's especially a turbo. Negative comments about it on this thread are pointless, until you personally design and produce a complete turbo system for this vehicle and offer it to us for whatever bargain shopper price you can come up with..........:rolleyes:
John, looking forward to hearing more about this system!
mlssoc3 06-29-2006, 10:35 AM Actually i've been working on cars most of my life and i know good pricing when i see it. To me and deffenetly to others $10,000 is actually to much. i would understand $10,000 for the turbo kit including installed but deff not that much without installation. Custom turbo kits run about that much.. installed..
jeffom 06-29-2006, 08:37 PM 10K thats a great price ... Can I ask what the full kit costs with the forged internals done by you ? Or should I just call.
Hotscott7 06-29-2006, 09:53 PM Your ****ing nuts, get a brain dude there is no way in hell that turbo kit is worth $10,000 installed or not installed. I understand that you are one of the first to come out with a turbo kit for this truck but even at $5,000 you would be ripping the public off. 137 hp is not a crazy amount for a turbo to add, hell for $10,000 at 5 psi we should be getting 250. What does your kit all consist of. Set it all in a pile and post the picture. I would love to see every piece bunched together in a pile just so i can see what people are going to waste $10,000 bucks on. Your crazy and the people sticking up for you saying that is a fair price are just as stupid. They are probably the people that bought there SRT8 for $12,000 over sticker. Because they are simply stupid. Telling us to go build a kit or dont say **** about this one is the dumbest thing i have ever heard. We all have our trades and jobs and things we do and are hopefully good at. People that build turbo kits and performance parts for cars do just that. If i built turbo kits i would but i dont. So i have no reason to build a kit better for a fairer price.....get real stupid. Look around on the internet. See if you can find another V-8 Turbo kit for $10,000 that people are flocking to buy for only 137 hp. My opinion is straight forward your price is ****ing insane and stupid. Before you go to bed think about how you are ripping people off. And then wake up look in the mirror and say i am a dumb ****.
tainui 06-29-2006, 10:18 PM The guy is a premium seller in a niche market. Nobody says you have to buy and nobody says you have to be an ass either. Its a wonder you get designers and manufacturers to come in these forums and post if they are going to get this type of response.
With that, I vote this discussion is ready for moderating.
Krush 06-29-2006, 10:43 PM Hennessey has proven he knows what he's doing, and you will pay a premium for that. There are lots of turbo kits with big numbers, number they will never actually produce. With Hennessey I think you can bank on the numbers, his rep is too important. You can also expect a very well thought out and matched kit. I would say, if ten grand is a lot of money to you for a kit like this, then you're simply not in the Hennessey market. Many would buy this kit because it's a Hennessey and it will work, period. With all that said, I wouldn't sell this kit mail order. This is the type of kit to sell through approved shops who you could trust would install it properly and treat the customer, a Hennessey customer, properly.
SRT8ASPIREE 06-29-2006, 11:05 PM Your ****ng nuts, get a brain dude there is no way in hell that turbo kit is worth $10,000 installed or not installed. I understand that you are one of the first to come out with a turbo kit for this truck but even at $5,000 you would be ripping the public off. 137 hp is not a crazy amount for a turbo to add, hell for $10,000 at 5 psi we should be getting 250. What does your kit all consist of. Set it all in a pile and post the picture. I would love to see every piece bunched together in a pile just so i can see what people are going to waste $10,000 bucks on. Your crazy and the people sticking up for you saying that is a fair price are just as stupid. They are probably the people that bought there SRT8 for $12,000 over sticker. Because they are simply stupid. Telling us to go build a kit or dont say **** about this one is the dumbest thing i have ever heard. We all have our trades and jobs and things we do and are hopefully good at. People that build turbo kits and performance parts for cars do just that. If i built turbo kits i would but i dont. So i have no reason to build a kit better for a fairer price.....get real stupid. Look around on the internet. See if you can find another V-8 Turbo kit for $10,000 that people are flocking to buy for only 137 hp. My opinion is straight forward your price is ****ing insane and stupid. Before you go to bed think about how you are ripping people off. And then wake up look in the mirror and say i am a dumb ****.
Cant you just not buy it and shut the Fu<k up. Every post you have written seems to not be benificial to anyone. Hows this you want more power get the turbo kit set boost at 20psi and mabye the 800hp will explode the transmission and send nice hot metal particles rippling through your body.
Hennessey keep up the GREAT R&D 26hp per psi is very admirable and I cant imagine the outcome with supporting mods!!
copmagnet 06-29-2006, 11:52 PM Your ****ng nuts, get a brain dude there is no way in hell that turbo kit is worth $10,000 installed or not installed. I understand that you are one of the first to come out with a turbo kit for this truck but even at $5,000 you would be ripping the public off. 137 hp is not a crazy amount for a turbo to add, hell for $10,000 at 5 psi we should be getting 250. What does your kit all consist of. Set it all in a pile and post the picture. I would love to see every piece bunched together in a pile just so i can see what people are going to waste $10,000 bucks on. Your crazy and the people sticking up for you saying that is a fair price are just as stupid. They are probably the people that bought there SRT8 for $12,000 over sticker. Because they are simply stupid. Telling us to go build a kit or dont say **** about this one is the dumbest thing i have ever heard. We all have our trades and jobs and things we do and are hopefully good at. People that build turbo kits and performance parts for cars do just that. If i built turbo kits i would but i dont. So i have no reason to build a kit better for a fairer price.....get real stupid. Look around on the internet. See if you can find another V-8 Turbo kit for $10,000 that people are flocking to buy for only 137 hp. My opinion is straight forward your price is ****ing insane and stupid. Before you go to bed think about how you are ripping people off. And then wake up look in the mirror and say i am a dumb ****.
:D :D :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Wow.....I haven't laughed like that in a while!!! Thanks.. Nice rant and name calling.... No one is forcing you to buy the kit, so please do us all a favor and stop typing.....
Oh man, and please don't play the price police roll.... Profit is what makes the world go round. BTW.... the price you paid for your vehicle........, at or around MSRP i'm assuming, like the rest of us, wasn't anywhere near of the cost to make the vehicle including parts and yes......installation! You've already taken part in giving into the profit margin by purchasing this vehicle! Shocked??? You must be....... Why stop now genius? The same people that look at you and say "why would that moron buy a brand new car( a "performane" SUV at that) for almost msrp, knowing they'll take a huge depreciation hit, and give in, to these greedy automakers????!!" are the same people you're trying to sound like. Simply put.....you bought this vehicle, because to you,......its worth it, and you can justify the price by what you think is a good deal for the performance and versatility it provides.........Well pumpkin, thats the same reason some people will purchase a $10,000 turbo kit from a well known manufacturer..... Seem simple enough? Good, I would hate to think you were turning into a hypocrite, at this stage in the game of....... "How money makes the world go 'round."
We all will never understand how each individual choose's to spend their money......
But one thing we mostly have in common in the car performance lover's industry is: We're all guilty of indulging into mods and spoiling our cars once in a while.......
If you think you were born to save money......... you need to get the fu#k out of the automotive aftermarket scene!!
mlssoc3 06-30-2006, 12:06 AM Yea but he is right, $10,000 is a bit to much for a turbo kit!! ive been working on cars most of my life and i deff know where the profit is around but $10,000 w/o installation so way to much for a kit!!!!!
copmagnet 06-30-2006, 12:57 AM I've been working on cars also for a long time, and we all know where the profit is on certain aftermarket kits. Turbo's in particular are a hot item these days, as more and more people are switching from blower applications. Blower applications are a classic example of the same profit margin, especially depending on the vehicle. In the corvette world, it's called "vette tax." Because the vehicle has a higher price then your bargain basement vehicle and is typically targeted at the performance enthusiast, aftermarket companies can charge more for their parts....because people will pay more if they want the goodies. For example, and 5.0 mustang cat-back and be had for around $150.00 while most vette cat-backs, usually consisting of the same metal and material amount will run closer to $1k. Its just the way it works.... especially for a vehicle like ours. That, I gaurantee, you won't find aftermarket companies "flocking" to make us power-adder kits, especially turbo...
I'm not saying $10,000 isn't a good chunk of money for this kind of kit, but I don't think anyone should be acting like its the end of the world.... ranting, name calling, and swearing as if the guy is charging $80,000 for a K&N filter..
And since you've been around cars alot too, you'll also acknowledge that there have been many turbo kits available for many types of vehicles that have been sold successfully for waayyyy more money. It's not a bargain price by any means, but it's definitely not off the charts where it's considered "un-heard-of." If Hennessy was charging $55,000 for an exhaust system that we could get from ten other vendors for way cheaper, we would have a definite insane price case. You and I both know, $10,000 isn't cheap for would it could be, but it's not the end all price gouge, others are literally screaming about........
Hotscott7 06-30-2006, 09:09 AM Yea but he is right, $10,000 is a bit to much for a turbo kit!! ive been working on cars most of my life and i deff know where the profit is around but $10,000 w/o installation so way to much for a kit!!!!!
Well at least some people are smart and dont want to go waste a great 10 grand on this piece of ****. Money does make the world go around but for one person to take a week out of his time and make this TERRIFIC turbo kit you all think it is and come up with a price of 10 grand is simply ridiculous. Its not worth half of that we all know that and if you dont know that you're really just an idiot. And thinking "oh hennesey is a very smart person and i would trust anything he comes out with just because his name.' Woopy ****ing woopy a turbo kit is a turbo kit there really isnt no ingenius things is the making of one. Anybody that knows a half ass amount of information on how cars work can make a turbo kit and yes it will work. You dont have to have one from JOHN HENNESEY so you can run around and say look john hennesey made my turbo kit and people will be like woopy who the hell is that. So go spend your 10 grand cause your that stupid and are honestly sticking up for someone trying to rip you off on this product.
Other buddy that thinks I should shut the fu*k up.....notice i didnt use the C i dont want to affend anybody. Making a kit running 20 psi would be fine for our trucks but since you know nothing about cars you would probable run it at 20 psi while having it cruise around town as a daily driver. See thats when you would ruin something, but since you guys are all such performance freaks then wouldnt you just run 20 psi at the track. Because you are all such hardcore racers!!!! YES YES You are!!!
Oh and by the way i didnt pay near sticker for my truck a fully loaded black one has a sticker of $45,990......well i paid $40,000 even, do the math genius.....nice try though
John Hennessey 06-30-2006, 09:27 AM why the hostility? if one of you is an expert and can turbocharge your jeep and do it for $4500 bucks then please do it to your own jeep and while you are at it do it for everybody else too.
Krush 06-30-2006, 09:59 AM Well with all your talk Scotty, I don't see "Hot Scott" on the side any Vipers, or getting written up in the mainstream magazines. You talk a lot about how much you know, and what you can build, so go do it! Seems as if Mr. Hennessey would be no competition for you, so jump in game and show us what you got. Put up or shut, genius. Don't be jealous Mr. Hennessey has built a reputation that allows him to bring top dollar for his warez, success is rarely gifted, it's almost alway EARNED.
copmagnet 06-30-2006, 02:17 PM Well at least some people are smart and dont want to go waste a great 10 grand on this piece of ****. Money does make the world go around but for one person to take a week out of his time and make this TERRIFIC turbo kit you all think it is and come up with a price of 10 grand is simply ridiculous. Its not worth half of that we all know that and if you dont know that you're really just an idiot. And thinking "oh hennesey is a very smart person and i would trust anything he comes out with just because his name.' Woopy ****ing woopy a turbo kit is a turbo kit there really isnt no ingenius things is the making of one. Anybody that knows a half ass amount of information on how cars work can make a turbo kit and yes it will work. You dont have to have one from JOHN HENNESEY so you can run around and say look john hennesey made my turbo kit and people will be like woopy who the hell is that. So go spend your 10 grand cause your that stupid and are honestly sticking up for someone trying to rip you off on this product.
Other buddy that thinks I should shut the fu*k up.....notice i didnt use the C i dont want to affend anybody. Making a kit running 20 psi would be fine for our trucks but since you know nothing about cars you would probable run it at 20 psi while having it cruise around town as a daily driver. See thats when you would ruin something, but since you guys are all such performance freaks then wouldnt you just run 20 psi at the track. Because you are all such hardcore racers!!!! YES YES You are!!!
Oh and by the way i didnt pay near sticker for my truck a fully loaded black one has a sticker of $45,990......well i paid $40,000 even, do the math genius.....nice try though
Wow, just.........wow. That last paragraph rocked my world... Way to prove a point! Instead of paying $15k over the cost of the vehicle to make........you paid $10k.......way to give it to them in the ass!! Seriously, from reading your posts......judging from your ability to make legit counter points, your thought process, and your obvious lack of knowledge on high-end aftermarket buyers........I feel like I'm argueing with a 13 year old....So i'll stop, it's going to get pointless..........................after one last rant.
If it's so simple to make and design a turbo kit for our SRT8's........please show us how simple it is and do it....and show us how stupid we are...... I know what it takes, I'm in the vette and viper aftermarket scene, as well as few others. Exactly as Krush pointed out........you'd have a huge following of people wanting your turbo kit (because your nobody), you'd be offering it atthe price of what it would only cost to build..............and you would even get to shut up all of us ignorant, know-nothing, unexperianced gear heads......no reason not to do it!
Call me when the kit is ready.
The reason that names like Hennessy, Lingenfelter, are well known now, is because they produce......period. Kinda like the same scenario of a fat uncoordinated loser sitting on the couch watching a sports game and yelling at the players on how they suck and he could do so much better......
The problem is, they're out there producing and are well known for it, while the easy, "comfort of his own home" fat man is always focused on what he could do and how much better he could do it........yet he never will, because he chooses to keep being that loser on the couch..
With that said.........get off your couch, quit typing about how wrong it is and how easy it is.......And go do it....Simple. Until then, your just another jackass yelling from behind TV ( or computer ) ......
I'm done.......:D
Hotscott7 06-30-2006, 08:57 PM Thank you for your very intelligent comments. First off if i am not mistaken the employee pricing for a truck like mine is somewhere in the $39,000 range meaning i paid less than $1000 more than an employed person at jeep. With this said i did not pay $10,000 too much for my vehicle. I am sorry i did not run up to michigan and personally pick mine of the assemble line from jeep and get it at that $10,000 cheaper. Also with this being said how else would i have paid $10,000 too much for my vehicle. Please since you are so smart tell me how much the dealerships pay for a fully loaded Black Jeep SRT8. And after you make up some random number stating that i got ripped off for $10,000 tell me where you got your facts from, I would love to hear it. Also if you are such a great person and saved this mysterious $10,000 on your truck go buy this turbo kit.
Also to clear it up, I am not talking smack about this turbo kit I am sure It is great since it is from the GREAT!! Mr. Hennesey!!. But i am simply stating that the price is outrageous. Which anyone in the car business would know.
And to you hennesey all the hostility is because of your outrageous price....if you would read back you would learn that I said there are people that build turbo kits and there are people who do other things. We all have our trades and things we are good at. I dont build turbo kits or performance products, that is what you do. So telling me to go build one for $4500 is the dumbest thing i have heard. Everyone has a goal and that is to get paid for what they do, so build your kits and everything else you do, but at a price of $10,000......lets get real.
Hotscott7 06-30-2006, 09:00 PM Oh and to clear it up....Im not jealous of Mr. Hennesey......honestly I have never heard of him. So keep talking him up to the people that dont know him.....hell he may just sell 2 of these kits.
Krush 06-30-2006, 09:56 PM You know a lot about turbo kits but you've never heard of Hennessey Performance? You ever read those "Fastest street cars in the world", "200+ mph Shootout" type articles in ever major automotive magazine? His cars are in most of those, his cars have more magazine covers than Demi Moore, and his cars have received the highest praise from many of the automotive experts. This is why many are willing to pay top dollar for his products.
It's not about "the GREAT Mr. Hennessey", it's about respect. I love high performance cars, and this guy builds some of the best in the world, so I respect him and the work he does.
Dude, this guy builds 250 mph Vipers, so ya, I'm an F'n fan and proud of it.
Clueless 06-30-2006, 10:06 PM Krush, you're wasting your breath, it’s obviously pointless. BTW, WHO CARES if $10K is too much or too little money?! The person with the money will spend it and the one without it will come up with excuses as too why the first guy is an idiot. The rest of us will have a good time laughing at this pissing contest… :D
copmagnet 06-30-2006, 10:16 PM Krush, you're wasting your breath, it’s obviously pointless. BTW, WHO CARES if $10K is too much or too little money?! The person with the money will spend it and the one without it will come up with excuses as too why the first guy is an idiot. The rest of us will have a good time laughing at this pissing contest… :D
Ha ha, I completely agree. It's becoming a waste of time to explain things we've all known for years..........
Krush 06-30-2006, 11:36 PM I know it's a waste, but I needed to get to 15 posts. :)
HEMEEE 07-01-2006, 07:40 PM If you want to continue to participate in this discussion, please keep it on topic, keep it civil, and keep it respectful of other members, which includes keeping language in check.
Thank you
jaybruce 07-05-2006, 02:35 PM So what else is there? For me, this kit would be great. I just finished ordering my 07' and should recieve it in Sept. I'm overseas and dont have any local shops to do a custom design and install, but if there's a ready to go kit that's bolt on with a little tuning then that's for me!! Many performance shops here could do the install. If this can hit 580-600hp/tq and do it reliably, without burning holes in the pistons, then why not. Anything that gives me an edge in the left lane over the latest Cayenne Turbo S(starting @ $111k) is worth it.
As for price or avalibility, who else is there that can provide a bolt-on, boxed kit that can be installed as is, and includes the fuel delivery and other upgrades necessary?
And no, I dont bleed money, I paid 2k below msrp for a fully loaded, every option model with no tax; so I'm not trying to spend money on a whim. I do how ever, have no desire to save a little money and spend 5k on a "kit" that's gonna blow up my new toy in 2 months. I need and engine that can take daily autobahn driving at 120-150 for an hour or two each day.(hitting 170 once in a while would be nice too!!)
So if there's other shops to consider let me know(please), but the reputation of the shop means more to me than saving a buck or two.
copmagnet 07-05-2006, 03:05 PM So what else is there? For me, this kit would be great. I just finished ordering my 07' and should recieve it in Sept. I'm overseas and dont have any local shops to do a custom design and install, but if there's a ready to go kit that's bolt on with a little tuning then that's for me!! Many performance shops here could do the install. If this can hit 580-600hp/tq and do it reliably, without burning holes in the pistons, then why not. Anything that gives me an edge in the left lane over the latest Cayenne Turbo S(starting @ $111k) is worth it.
As for price or avalibility, who else is there that can provide a bolt-on, boxed kit that can be installed as is, and includes the fuel delivery and other upgrades necessary?
And no, I dont bleed money, I paid 2k below msrp for a fully loaded, every option model with no tax; so I'm not trying to spend money on a whim. I do how ever, have no desire to save a little money and spend 5k on a "kit" that's gonna blow up my new toy in 2 months. I need and engine that can take daily autobahn driving at 120-150 for an hour or two each day.(hitting 170 once in a while would be nice too!!)
So if there's other shops to consider let me know(please), but the reputation of the shop means more to me than saving a buck or two.
Amen Brotha!!
Krush 07-05-2006, 03:17 PM I second that Amen, and I'm also seriously considering this kit myself.
Clueless 07-05-2006, 10:11 PM I hear some smart people talking now. Saving a couple of dollars but getting an unknown tuner to Mickey-Mouse a system doesn’t sound like a good deal to me no matter how inexpensive. So now we’re getting to the real subject matter. I was waiting for someone to bring this up. The difference is in the drivability/durability of this kit, or any other, for that matter!
So the question is NOT, is the system going to cost 7K or 11k??? The REAL question to Mr. Hennessey is how do you/we know what the upper limits of the Jeeps’ drivetrain are? In other words, how much MORE power can it handle on daily bases, without seeing the service bay once a month?
i think with a few more tweaks it will make over 600 rw hp pretty easily. we are not sure how far we can push the torque converter and transmission but we are going to find out soon.
Krush 07-06-2006, 07:10 AM Actually I started this line of thinking on page 2, where you guys been? :D And this what I've been saying, with Hennessey you will get a well thought out kit. If there are weak points in the drivetrain you will know where they are and how to properly upgrade them IF the upgrades aren't already provided as part of the kit.
Hennessey has proven he knows what he's doing, and you will pay a premium for that. There are lots of turbo kits with big numbers, number they will never actually produce. With Hennessey I think you can bank on the numbers, his rep is too important. You can also expect a very well thought out and matched kit. I would say, if ten grand is a lot of money to you for a kit like this, then you're simply not in the Hennessey market. Many would buy this kit because it's a Hennessey and it will work, period. With all that said, I wouldn't sell this kit mail order. This is the type of kit to sell through approved shops who you could trust would install it properly and treat the customer, a Hennessey customer, properly.
John Hennessey 07-06-2006, 08:55 AM So the question is NOT, is the system going to cost 7K or 11k??? The REAL question to Mr. Hennessey is how do you/we know what the upper limits of the Jeeps’ drivetrain are? In other words, how much MORE power can it handle on daily bases, without seeing the service bay once a month?
THE BEST WAY IS TO BUILD A FEW OF THEM AND BEAT THE PISS OUT OF THEM TO SEE WHAT THEY CAN TAKE AND WHAT THE LIMITS ARE. WE ARE GOING THRU THIS PROCESS NOW.
Clueless 07-06-2006, 07:33 PM THE BEST WAY IS TO BUILD A FEW OF THEM AND BEAT THE PISS OUT OF THEM TO SEE WHAT THEY CAN TAKE AND WHAT THE LIMITS ARE. WE ARE GOING THRU THIS PROCESS NOW.
Once you abuse a few SRTs to your full satisfaction and figure out the limits, would you offer something akin to a warranty on for the kit?
Kimono_skunk 01-03-2007, 01:41 PM May I offer a small tip to you Mr. Hennessey?
When you reply, your 'caps lock' button is on. It looks like you are screaming the reply. :p
Just a tip from one of the newest members here...
Kimono_skunk
StageFright 01-04-2007, 08:43 AM May I offer a small tip to you Mr. Hennessey?
When you reply, your 'caps lock' button is on. It looks like you are screaming the reply. :p
Just a tip from one of the newest members here...
Kimono_skunk
Did you check the date of the last post to this thread?
HoustonSRT-8 01-04-2007, 08:50 AM Did you check the date of the last post to this thread?
That's what I was wondering. :D
El Jefe 01-04-2007, 09:59 AM who cares! Bringing back this thread was a great idea lol
Fastest H-Town Realtor 01-04-2007, 12:56 PM why the hostility? if one of you is an expert and can turbocharge your jeep and do it for $4500 bucks then please do it to your own jeep and while you are at it do it for everybody else too.
Agreed-If you don't like the price, go buy someone elses turbo kit. It costs what it costs..like it or not. Don't be an ass.
Holy late post Batman. This was dug up from the grave.
mabosc223 01-04-2007, 01:28 PM Agreed-If you don't like the price, go buy someone elses turbo kit. It costs what it costs..like it or not. Don't be an ass.
Holy late post Batman. This was dug up from the grave.
An oldie but goodie. It shows how Ruthless John is, and how he is only out for the money, not the consumer. JMHO.
El Jefe 01-04-2007, 02:51 PM Agreed-If you don't like the price, go buy someone elses turbo kit. It costs what he thinks he can get away with..like it or not. Don't be an ass.
fixed for ya! :D
Fastest H-Town Realtor 01-04-2007, 04:35 PM 03AZ brings da funnah! LOL...
HoustonSRT-8 01-04-2007, 08:50 PM Agreed-If you don't like the price, go buy someone elses turbo kit. It costs what it costs..like it or not. Don't be an ass.
Holy late post Batman. This was dug up from the grave.
People aren't being an ass towards John because of the price. People don't like him because of his large history of screwing people over and threatening people for no big reason.
boomer 01-04-2007, 09:39 PM Charger SRT8. Stock heads, stock bottom end with Hennessey single turbo system. If we offer a mail order system this will likely be the set-up which we offer.
Dyno sheets to follow.
John Hennessey
www.HennesseyPerformance.com
i was really excited to hear about the great acheivements of your shop and i was even more pleased to find out that you offer products for the gc srt8; the one thing that i was comprehensive about was the coment that i read on local wisconsin forum that you, (hennessey performance) were being sued by a customer because you never delivered a vehicle. i would like to find out how true this is; i would like to hear your side of the story, or if there is even a story to be told.
boomer 01-04-2007, 10:15 PM i was really excited to hear about the great acheivements of your shop and i was even more pleased to find out that you offer products for the gc srt8; the one thing that i was comprehensive about was the coment that i read on local wisconsin forum that you, (hennessey performance) were being sued by a customer because you never delivered a vehicle. i would like to find out how true this is; i would like to hear your side of the story, or if there is even a story to be told.
i meant apprehensive:o
Black_SRT8 01-04-2007, 10:47 PM He can't answer you Boom, he is banned from this site ;) Even if he wasn't banned, he still would not answer you - I have sent him numerous serious inquiries about his products, and he has yet to answer me.
nagra8 01-06-2007, 12:32 PM Have any of you guys checked out superchargers>? i bet that will get you over 500hp..
downunder 01-08-2007, 06:24 AM Not that I would ever do any business with this company due in full to the amount of conflicting opinions of said business and no positive customer feedback on any forum!! but why was Hennessy banned from this site?
HoustonSRT-8 01-08-2007, 08:41 AM Not that I would ever do any business with this company due in full to the amount of conflicting opinions of said business and no positive customer feedback on any forum!! but why was Hennessy banned from this site?
For reasons like this:
http://www.cherokeesrt8.com/forums/showpost.php?p=22096&postcount=51
boomer 01-08-2007, 07:36 PM He can't answer you Boom, he is banned from this site ;) Even if he wasn't banned, he still would not answer you - I have sent him numerous serious inquiries about his products, and he has yet to answer me.
that's too bad that he would take advantage of folks who trust him with something as personal as their vehicles. (if that is the case)
auto addictions 01-11-2007, 08:08 PM that's too bad that he would take advantage of folks who trust him with something as personal as their vehicles. (if that is the case)
WELCOME TO THE WONDERFULL WORLD OF HIGH PERFORMANCE!!!!
ptowntsi 01-12-2007, 01:31 AM On the turbo side of things I love seeing shops willing to do stuff with this vehicle.
Hennessey is widely known to have been a crook charge for a stroker motor and blower install and send it out with a blower and a chip, and strip peoples cars that were sent to him from out of town. I'd love to believe otherwise so if someone has proof that what I'm talking about is an urban legend please let me know.
However, $10,000 for a turbo kit, NOT installed is just ridiculous. Even Dinan only charges 6500k for their M3 supercharger systems which have got to be much more complicated than something for a domestic v8.
matts 01-12-2007, 04:10 AM lol, interesting read. there were a few people that were actually defending him, but i wonder if they ever read any of the bad stuff about him? it's all over the place, just check out any dodge related forum, vette forums, i'm sure it's even flooded over into the camaro and mustang forums.
if it was $10K for the kit installed and you were guranteed to get what you actually paid for i dont think it would too out of hand. but considering who is trying to sell it and that the price is just to your door step i think the price is a little steep. i personally wouldn't send my worst enemy's car to him. even if just 1/4 of the stuff i've read is true he's a lying crook. i'm really surprised someone hasn't really hurt him. he's (allegedly) ripped so many people off for SO much money..........and then tries to hide behind the law and his lawyers (whom i hope get paid very well and up front).
Kimono_skunk 01-12-2007, 08:21 AM Well I do know it was a late post, as when I posted it, it was listed under Popular topics or something, so thats why I looked at the thread.
I too had heard of Hennessey, not from the multiple car magazine stories, (besides Car and Driver, Motortrend seems a bit too snobbish from the Editor point of view for me, im more a Car Craft kind of skunk, but thats me.) but from other forums and such links that point to his insanity.
Certainly, he can build cars, but it is worth naught if his business ethics are less than stellar, especially at the prices he is charging up front for his name on the work order. And the complaints and lawsuits? C'mon, I just cannot see anyone, except the dulled readers at C&D that investment and business portfolio's worth more than some states. ('Sure, its an 125,000 tag for the viper, but won't the neighbors just HATE it when I start the car on weekend jaunts to the coast? And I can brag at the Antique Car Rally's I have a Hennessey Viper.')
Of course, dear C&D reader, you may have the one of a pawfull of actually running Viper's that Hennessey Built, and not ripped parts off of to complete other projects, like one of his customer's suing him.
Basically, I know that turbo's are expensive, and H has the right to sell them at the cost he feels that the C&D readers may buy it for, without doing a little bit of homework on their end, before giving H the cheque.
Personally, I would never deal with H for even a bumper or window sticker for my car.
Id just rather go with a supercharger.
bows
Kimono_skunk
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