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: What is the best CAI


fergcougar
06-19-2007, 05:59 PM
I am just about to purchase a CAI and I am not sure which one to get especially when there are a few mixed review. i like the look of the Volant and I like the look of the K/N but the K/N doesnt have a box sooooooo... Hopefully you guys can help me out

theoneyoucantreplace
06-19-2007, 06:20 PM
Please use the SEARCH feature on this forum. The topic you are inquiring about has been discussed hundreds of times...


I am just about to purchase a CAI and I am not sure which one to get especially when there are a few mixed review. i like the look of the Volant and I like the look of the K/N but the K/N doesnt have a box sooooooo... Hopefully you guys can help me out

fergcougar
06-19-2007, 06:40 PM
use the search feature but could not find it..

mrfreeze
06-19-2007, 06:48 PM
use the search feature but could not find it..


here let me help you..it's at the very top of the page ...it's between the"newpost" and "quick links" hit the search button and then type in what your looking for..

fergcougar
06-19-2007, 06:51 PM
what away to greet a new member .. Thanks guys

Str8Srt8
06-19-2007, 06:56 PM
<PAUSE BUTTON>

Mopar CAI is very functional and looks nice. Search for that one, and you should find pictures too.

fergcougar
06-19-2007, 07:00 PM
Thank you sir

BL8TANT
06-19-2007, 07:01 PM
Ha! Well, his name is ripuanewass, right? Welcome to the club. Go Volant, and you'll be as happy as the rest of us Volant owners. Stay away from the DUB HAI. Keep on modding!

fergcougar
06-19-2007, 07:07 PM
Cool thanks i will order tomorrow and sorry to everyone cause i love this site so much..Live and die by it.. I have had euro cars my whole life and yes, this is my first us car so this is quite fun

Mango
06-19-2007, 07:41 PM
Right now, they are all pretty much the same. The Volant has more of an enclosed, ram air effect since it uses the stock scoop. My Dad has stock airbox with K&N in his SRT8. I have the Volant....guess what? They are both almost identical! *gasp*

Side by side comparisons on the same day, driving next to eachother with Dashhawks. Volant is about 2* cooler on avg..... so you can save your money or if you feel the need to mod....then by all means do it.

Now...once Sarge has his little beauty ready for purchase...that's a totally different affair. ;)

navyavi469
06-19-2007, 07:57 PM
The guy just asked for the "best" CAI. He probably didn't want to waste his time searching endless threads full of off-topic discussion, aguments, and installation questions for specific CAIs.

Instead, maybe with all of the 'clout' that you bring to the ballgame with your millions of posts, offer your opinion on the best one, maybe even back it up with some dyno-facts, or an actual comparison test.

I like the last guy's post, very informative, answers the original question.


Back to the topic. I just went with a Drop-In K&N. In my opinion after doing the 'search' thing a few times, it seems no one has any great things to say about any of the CAIs on the market. If I did have to choose one, I would go with the Volant. The whole point of a CAI is to isolate the air filter from the heated airmass being emitted from the engine compartment or fan-flow. The MOPAR/DUB look astonishingly alike, and although they use their little block-off plate, I wouldn't be surprised if the intake temperatures are actually higher than stock. I always thought "DUB" was a company that made big shiny rims that aren't worth **** after you buy them, I guess they're dipping into the performance aftermarket.... The only vehicle I'd put a "DUB" CAI on is a 300C, I'll let you draw your own conclusions on that one.

The factory set-up uses a relatively large-diameter tubing, incorporates a filter with plenty of surface area (assuming you use a quality low-restriction filter like KN), and does the job of sucking air from the front of the grill before any turbulent back-flow from the radiator can get in there. The Volant does the same thing, maybe a little bit better, but IMHO, not for 3-5 hundred bucks. If you plan on putting on a S/C like me, then no need to invest in a CAI anyways.

Maybe some food for thought. :cool:

RUDE8
06-19-2007, 08:00 PM
GSM CAI is my favorite. Its sealed off and me likes its design.

fergcougar
06-19-2007, 08:09 PM
yea i like the idea of a drop in. obviously its a cheaper way to go and it it doesn't seem to improve the performance to much then I will stick with that. Thanks guys for your input and what is the part number and where do I get it from..

navyavi469
06-19-2007, 08:23 PM
yea i like the idea of a drop in. obviously its a cheaper way to go and it it doesn't seem to improve the performance to much then I will stick with that. Thanks guys for your input and what is the part number and where do I get it from..


I got mine from Advanced Auto... its actually the same size that is on all the other jeep models, hemi or not. I think it is K&N 33-2233 or something like that. Any auto parts store will have it or can order it. Average cost is 40-50 bucks. I still have my K&N filter on my Dodge Ram 5.7 Hemi, cleaned it now 4 times since I bought the truck, keeps on tickin!

Jred22
06-19-2007, 08:50 PM
i got the K&N first, then decided to get the volant cause it sounds badass, I'm happy with the volant and i felt it was worth the $300

Inferno SRT8
06-19-2007, 08:51 PM
It aint the Mopar HAI, Hot Air Intake. Looks good but the heat sheild has more holes in it then swiss cheese.

fergcougar
06-19-2007, 08:57 PM
Such mixed reviews I am not sure what to do.. Very confused

srt8313
06-19-2007, 09:13 PM
wait !! go wit the mopar cai u will notice mo power i did

fergcougar
06-19-2007, 09:17 PM
If that is the case why do some say its not worth it.. I would happily spend the money but i want to make the best decision. Is MOPAR that god or is the FAC good enough.. With the SNORK mod is the FAC better than the MOPAR

Dave
06-19-2007, 09:19 PM
The Volant is by far the best CAI on the market today but whether or not you will see any performance gains over a drop in filter is debatable. If you can wait some members here will be releasing a carbon fibre CAI soon that should produce real gains.

fergcougar
06-19-2007, 09:21 PM
thats very interesting who is gonna do that?

navyavi469
06-19-2007, 09:23 PM
I understand that Carbon Fiber is extremely lightweight, but what benefits would it have over one that is ABS plastic. :confused:

OurZoo
06-19-2007, 09:29 PM
At this very moment, it's either the Volant or simply a drop in K&N. The snorkel mod along with drop in is dyno proven for 11'ish horsies and for 50 bucks you can't beat it.

fergcougar
06-19-2007, 09:31 PM
So without the K/N does the SNORK mod do justice?

OurZoo
06-19-2007, 09:49 PM
It allows for more of a ram air effect, so YES.

adam
06-20-2007, 01:22 AM
i put the DUB CAI in and im not happy with it... i seem to have a slower throttle response then compared to stock.. I would not recommend it unless you want it for looks cause it does look good. I would go with Volant or better wait to see what the carbon fiber one does...

On the other hand what is the SNORKEL thing people are refferring to and how do you do it?

adam
06-20-2007, 01:25 AM
Hey OURZOO

Cute kid....Congrats...Looks pretty new!!

OurZoo
06-20-2007, 08:58 AM
She's our first. Gabrielle was 3 months on Monday. For the snorkel mod there has been a bit discussed. Just search for snorkel and/or mod.

adam
06-20-2007, 01:18 PM
K will do thanks

tawny
06-20-2007, 08:27 PM
I have a DUB, there is no performance drop 0-60 and 1/4mile for me, but no improvement either. I have no idea about HP. It does look and sound very nice, IMO.

T-Time
06-20-2007, 08:34 PM
She's our first. Gabrielle was 3 months on Monday. For the snorkel mod there has been a bit discussed. Just search for snorkel and/or mod.

Drew,

I laughed out loud when i read your quote.

Gabrielle is your first and you didn't even give her her own paragraph. You just blew through that, right into the snorkel mod. Jeez, I hope she never see's this thread.:D :D

T:cool:

generalconfusion
06-20-2007, 08:48 PM
Right now, they are all pretty much the same. The Volant has more of an enclosed, ram air effect since it uses the stock scoop. My Dad has stock airbox with K&N in his SRT8. I have the Volant....guess what? They are both almost identical! *gasp*

Side by side comparisons on the same day, driving next to eachother with Dashhawks. Volant is about 2* cooler on avg..... so you can save your money or if you feel the need to mod....then by all means do it.

Now...once Sarge has his little beauty ready for purchase...that's a totally different affair. ;)

Just ordered the tool and Running9's found someone to do the mold, the next step is the manufacturer of our filters......expect the first ones to be available in three weeks.

OBSRT8
06-20-2007, 10:08 PM
I have a DUB, there is no performance drop 0-60 and 1/4mile for me, but no improvement either. I have no idea about HP. It does look and sound very nice, IMO.

I have a Dub also and would like to have someone explain why it is not as good as any of the other brands.It has the same size tubing with a sealed off air box.Granted that stainless steel is not as cool as the plastic tubes,but it is better than the aluminum tube that the mopar uses and is not sealed off from the engine heat very well.As a rule my IAT is always roughly 4 to 6 degrees warmer than the ambient air temps.My dashhawk 0-60 times are always in the 4.47 to 4.65 times when the outside temps are in the 60's.I think the Dub gets a bad wrap because of one or two peoples opinions.Just me looking for some engineering proof and not someones opinion.
Lets face it the factory has done a pretty good job.I can remember back in the fifties when we use to invert the cover of our air cleaners and swear it gave us another 10 HP.(because of the sound)
We all change out the oem system for the looks and or the extra sound,but if you look at some of the track times some are getting without changing anything you kind of wonder if it is an Ego thing.
Thanks and good luck.

Str8Srt8
06-20-2007, 10:40 PM
It's nice to hear the term ram air since we are actually capable of getting a slight affect of that, but only at 170 MPH! I also wonder if anybody has really done any work on checking temps using IR thermometers? I wonder what they use for vehicle testing in Death Valley? The Extech AN200 thermo-anemometer air flow meter might make an interesting study for the temp/air flow in the engine areas. Probably overkill, but wouldn't hurt to have a photo laser tachometer for the fan too as it would be nice to know what it runs at and if it changes rpm.

In layman terms, the engine is a pump. Restrict the intake and exhaust and the pump doesn't work at its best.

Hows2nd
06-21-2007, 09:33 AM
Just ordered the tool and Running9's found someone to do the mold, the next step is the manufacturer of our filters......expect the first ones to be available in three weeks.

I can't wait to see it......:cool:

DJ Red Barron
06-21-2007, 11:49 AM
I can't wait to see it......:cool:
:D LOL @ your avatar!