Why is everyone getting rid of their 180 degree t-stat?

I still have mine. Been running them in every Dodge, Jeep vehicle i've owned and never a problem. Warranty work has always been covered

i got mine and its not going anywhere. just make sure u let the rig warm up for at least 15 min if its chilly or cold out!!

i got mine and its not going anywhere. just make sure u let the rig warm up for at least 15 min if its chilly or cold out!!
This is actually more harmful than putting it in gear and driving it from a cold start.

This is actually more harmful than putting it in gear and driving it from a cold start.

depends on how cold it is...

Negative, in fact, the colder it is the more beneficial driving it immediately is.

Who's getting rid of theirs? Running a Miloden High-Flow Chevrolet 180* in mine.:D Works like a champ.;)

not sure I understand... how does this benefit the vehicle when most of its lifecycle is operating ~210 degrees? I though the most harm comes from the 2-3 sec at cold start or more if you have dry starts. Just curious...

Whats a dry start? And with regards tobthe tstat. Once u start when do u start to go. Ive never herd of not letting a car warm up a bit??

Negative, in fact, the colder it is the more beneficial driving it immediately is.

I'm interested where you are getting this i usually let my oil temp get up to 70* before driving, i thought driving a cold engine was bad....:confused:

How do u see ur oil temp?? U have a gauge or is there a way to get it on the evic??

evic has oil temp and pressure.

Where innthe evic. I have deff been thru my hole evic and cant find oil temps. I have a 2010. Does the dealer need to add it in or something??

If you drive your rig in cold weather i would leave the orig T-Stat in. That extra heat will burn off any moister inside block and oil. In the summer throw back the 180.

Why is everyone getting rid of their 180 degree t-stat?

who is getting rid of theirs?

Where innthe evic. I have deff been thru my hole evic and cant find oil temps. I have a 2010. Does the dealer need to add it in or something??

Wow man.... read your owners manual would ya! It's the little oil can with a thermometer on it. That ring a bell at all? Every Jeep has it.

If you drive your rig in cold weather i would leave the orig T-Stat in. That extra heat will burn off any moister inside block and oil. In the summer throw back the 180.

Agreed..


But on a side not, I have not seen many 180 go up for sale .. :confused:

I let my warm up until the rpm's go down, not by oil temp. I drive it like a grandma til they increase

I start my Jeep, let it idle for 5 seconds, then leave the house.

^^ Mines about 12 seconds, but I don't count every time.. :lol:

I still have my 180* t-stat in and it's like 30* degrees outside. I usually warm it up before driving. At least let warm up for 5 minutes if it's been sitting out for 8 hours or more. At least that's what I do.

Whats a dry start? And with regards tobthe tstat. Once u start when do u start to go. Ive never herd of not letting a car warm up a bit??

Not related to the T-stat ... a dry start is when you hear lifters clatter until the noise dissipates. A sign the oil pump, lifter or anti-drainback valve in the oil filter is defective. Fram filters are known as a cause for dry starts - as a result, I discontinued using Fram oil filters with exception to their HP-1 series filters.

I always allow the motor to warm until high idle returns to normal idle.

An old Hemi guy (former In-N-Out funny car owner) told me to warm a Hemi motor to 140 degrees before taking off. Of course these are old school guys building Race Hemi cars. I apply the same logic to a Modern Hemi.

Take it for what it’s worth, everyone has their ritual.

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You can also add a pre-oiler setup like Ben (fireheadman) has on his Jeep. No dry starts as it keeps an oil charge in the mains etc..

wink

Negative, in fact, the colder it is the more beneficial driving it immediately is.


So in minus 30 I just turn the key and hammer it with all the oil in the bottom of the pan eh ?

Can you explain this to me oh wise one ?

So in minus 30 I just turn the key and hammer it with all the oil in the bottom of the pan eh ?

Can you explain this to me oh wise one ?
I never said to do that.

Idle is one of the worst conditions for an internal combustion engine to be at (Next to cold start), there's no load, vacuum is high, and oil flow is very low. So not only is your oil not doing its job because it hasn't thinned yet, but it is also not flowing enough, piston gap is at its worst, and there's no load on the motor. Start the car, and start driving it. This does a number of things. First, it puts the engine under load and out of high vacuum. Second, it gets the oil to operating temperature much quicker, and third, it gives the pump some RPM so it can get the oil cycled.

Just because you should start driving, does not mean clicking off 6200rpm gear changes. You should do everything you can to limit the motor at 3,000 max, I normally auto shift mine at 2-25. Also, limit gear changes best you can, as transmissions don't like the cold any more than engines. You can go full throttle, just keep the engine speed down.

As for waiting until the fast start idle drops, that's up to you. On one hand it's easier on the transmission, on the other, its harder on the motor. I generally don't wait *shrug*

Lastly, if your truck ever sees -30, you need a block heater. Like yesterday.

makes a lot of sense bro i know u live in CO where it is cold as SH!t good info i usually auto start mine on my way out the door, its good knowing that when i reach it i can just get in a go (slowly)

I never said to do that.

Idle is one of the worst conditions for an internal combustion engine to be at (Next to cold start), there's no load, vacuum is high, and oil flow is very low. So not only is your oil not doing its job because it hasn't thinned yet, but it is also not flowing enough, piston gap is at its worst, and there's no load on the motor. Start the car, and start driving it. This does a number of things. First, it puts the engine under load and out of high vacuum. Second, it gets the oil to operating temperature much quicker, and third, it gives the pump some RPM so it can get the oil cycled.

Just because you should start driving, does not mean clicking off 6200rpm gear changes. You should do everything you can to limit the motor at 3,000 max, I normally auto shift mine at 2-25. Also, limit gear changes best you can, as transmissions don't like the cold any more than engines. You can go full throttle, just keep the engine speed down.

As for waiting until the fast start idle drops, that's up to you. On one hand it's easier on the transmission, on the other, its harder on the motor. I generally don't wait *shrug*

Lastly, if your truck ever sees -30, you need a block heater. Like yesterday.

There is nothing wrong with starting your Rig and driving off. The SRT engineers said not to go WOT when the oil temps are below 180* though. My Jeep runs fine with the 180 T-stat, when I take it out in the winter. Like Aaron said driving the jeep even when its cold will bring the Oil temps up and make the Oil thinner.

On t-stat you can also adjust your cooling fans to get a 180-190 temp if you have a diablo sport tuner, as far as cold start you should allways warm up your vehicle, unless you dont care then you could do a couple of burnouts then take off

To find oil temp:

On steering wheel hit the upper part of the button for EVIC until you see one of the following in the list below, then scroll through the list with the lower part of the same button marked with the arrow. Oil temp is between units and oil pressure. Hope this helps.

-units in
US

-avg mpg

-miles to empty

-trip A

-trip B

-elapsed time

-Oil pressure

-oil temp