I am in the market for new brake pads, and having a tough time deciding.

I am looking for a low dust, no noise pad, performance being slightly secondary.

I have read posts on both, but would be interested in the boards opinion as to which would suit my criteria better?

Any info would be appreciated.

Thank You,
sfin54

I was about to do a follow-up post from before for a few members, but I will just do it now! After about 300 miles, I prefer the Satisfied pads. Absolutley no noise, dust reduction about 70% or so.(about 2 weeks compared to 2 days-before they are real ugly up front, pretty good). Brake bite is almost as good as the OEMS, to quantify-about 85% of the stockers. Overall impression- I like them much better than the stockers, they are not coming off and will be replaced with the same when needed. I'm very Satisfied--pun intended!!!

I know there are various opinions on this topic and this is mine, straight from the hip!!

I will add, that if the rotors are groved(show uneven wear) they should be turned to regain a flat surface, any pad install on a less than flat surface will increase the chances of chatter(noise), PERIOD! GC

I was about to do a follow-up post from before for a few members, but I will just do it now! After about 300 miles, I prefer the Satisfied pads. Absolutley no noise, dust reduction about 70% or so.(about 2 weeks compared to 2 days-before they are real ugly up front, pretty good). Brake bite is almost as good as the OEMS, to quantify-about 85% of the stockers. Overall impression- I like them much better than the stockers, they are not coming off and will be replaced with the same when needed. I'm very Satisfied--pun intended!!!

I know there are various opinions on this topic and this is mine, straight from the hip!!

I will add, that if the rotors are groved(show uneven wear) they should be turned to regain a flat surface, any pad install on a less than flat surface will increase the chances of chatter(noise), PERIOD! GC

GC...your opinion is good enough for me.
That is what I'll be switching to.
I want to be satisfied also!!!!
Bill

I was about to do a follow-up post from before for a few members, but I will just do it now! After about 300 miles, I prefer the Satisfied pads. Absolutley no noise, dust reduction about 70% or so.(about 2 weeks compared to 2 days-before they are real ugly up front, pretty good). Brake bite is almost as good as the OEMS, to quantify-about 85% of the stockers. Overall impression- I like them much better than the stockers, they are not coming off and will be replaced with the same when needed. I'm very Satisfied--pun intended!!!

I know there are various opinions on this topic and this is mine, straight from the hip!!

I will add, that if the rotors are groved(show uneven wear) they should be turned to regain a flat surface, any pad install on a less than flat surface will increase the chances of chatter(noise), PERIOD! GC

Thanks for the great info!

Anyone else care to weigh in?

Thanks again,
sfin54

I've been looking at the Satisfied pads as well. With this being just a set of 4 pads, are these only for the front or do we run the same pads front and rear?

Front & Rears are different! They are sold as 4 wheels thru GSM- thats 8 pads total-picture shows only 4 pads-u will get 8 pads(frt&rr). GC

http://www.gsmotorsports.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=BRKPD61&Category_Code=HMIBRKS

Thanks for the great info!

Anyone else care to weigh in?

Thanks again,
sfin54

Looking at EBC 7000 series. 90% less dust, 0.45 coef. friction (Satisfied is 0.38-0.42, guaranteed noiseless. Newer pad, so not aware of anyone who has tried it.

Looking at EBC 7000 series. 90% less dust, 0.45 coef. friction (Satisfied is 0.38-0.42, guaranteed noiseless. Newer pad, so not aware of anyone who has tried it.
Sorry...still with GC.
He researches the hell out of this stuff!
Bill

Sorry...still with GC.
He researches the hell out of this stuff!
Bill

LOL. Those are good props you just handed...

I met Dave Zeckhausen about a week ago when I purchased the centric pads from him, he had great things to say about the pads and told me he was sure that i'd be back for the rear pads even though they were being switched out for the new compound as per the brake squeal TSB. My pads are all going on Monday and I'll be sure to post about the quality of braking and amount of dust, but I think it's probable that both of these pads (centric and satisfied) will be a MAJOR improvement over stock. I chose to trust Dave's recommendations for now, and I'll let you all know where that gets me very soon!!!

Steve

I met Dave Zeckhausen about a week ago when I purchased the centric pads from him, he had great things to say about the pads and told me he was sure that i'd be back for the rear pads even though they were being switched out for the new compound as per the brake squeal TSB. My pads are all going on Monday and I'll be sure to post about the quality of braking and amount of dust, but I think it's probable that both of these pads (centric and satisfied) will be a MAJOR improvement over stock. I chose to trust Dave's recommendations for now, and I'll let you all know where that gets me very soon!!!

Steve

I've had Dave's pads (posi-quiets) since last fall. Essentially no dust compared to stock (which I love!), but I will have to agree with Sarge that stopping power is impaired. I have bedded the brakes on more than 3 occasions to get pad transfer, but the stopping power is clearly not as good as stock. When I tow, this problem becomes even more apparent. I totally appreciate GC's opinion on this, but Sarge has not been totally satisfied (no pun intended) with GSM's pad either. I'm not sure what the solution is on this is, thus that's why I'm looking elsewhere.

thanks pj, good info, I'll let you guys know of what I think of the stopping next week!

Steve

I am in the market for new brake pads, and having a tough time deciding.

I am looking for a low dust, no noise pad, performance being slightly secondary.

I have read posts on both, but would be interested in the boards opinion as to which would suit my criteria better?

Any info would be appreciated.

Thank You,
sfin54

Can't compare Satisfied vs. Centric, but can comment on Centric vs. OEM. Comments apply to street use and spirited driving...no track use, but have run The Dragon with both sets....no issues.
Never had a brake squeal with stock OEM, but did have scoring (or is it grooving) on front rotors only. At this point I was at 25,700 miles.

Good dealer who agreed to replace front rotors only, and pads all the way around under warranty. After talking with Dave Z, purchased the Centric Posi-Quiets.

Dealer handed me the new OEM pads, and installed the Centrics. Since install I have driven 2,400 miles. 28,100 now on truck. Right after install, Centrics squealed on old rear rotors only, while backing into my garage, or upon a very slow roll stop like in a parking lot. Bedded them in twice per Dave Z's suggestion (2 times mainly cause I was dealing with 2 old and 2 new rotors).

I'd say brake dust is 90% less with the Centrics. HUGE difference, and absolutely no scoring/grooving at all.

Agree with gculver on brake bite statement. About 85 % of OEM. Pedal pressure to induce bite is different also. Need to nail em more. Bite/pressure has not been an issue for me even while towing. Got used to it fairly quickly.

As I said, can not speak for Satisfied, but I can say the new OEMs dealer gave me will stay in the garage till I sell the truck and they will be my gift to the next owner. No regrets here.

Front & Rears are different! They are sold as 4 wheels thru GSM- thats 8 pads total-picture shows only 4 pads-u will get 8 pads(frt&rr). GC

http://www.gsmotorsports.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=BRKPD61&Category_Code=HMIBRKS
Then GSM needs to fix their site because it speciafically says "These pads are only sold in sets of 4.", which I take to mean 4 pads total.

We've had the Centric pads on our Jeep for about 3,000 miles. I have bedded them in two different times. I agree with the other comments both in this thread and the one or two others that exist here.

The dust issue is definitely less. Way less. However, the pedal effort required is increased. The way the pads bite is not so much delayed, but takes more effort to get there. You just have to be ready for it.

Since we don't have a lot of rain, or severely cold weather, I am not concerned about any reduced effectiveness with these pads.

The bottom line is as follows: If you want no dust with close to stock effectiveness and a bit more pedal effort required, go with the Centric pads. If you need to have an aggressive pad with stock pedal feel and don't care about the dust, stay with the stock.

At this point in time, there does not appear to be a middle ground. Some day, there may be a product available that gets us there. When that happens, we'll comment about it. For now, this is what we've got.

I am going to put the Centric pads on my 300C SRT8. I'll provide more guidance on that application as well.

We've had the Centric pads on our Jeep for about 3,000 miles. I have bedded them in two different times. I agree with the other comments both in this thread and the one or two others that exist here.

The dust issue is definitely less. Way less. However, the pedal effort required is increased. The way the pads bite is not so much delayed, but takes more effort to get there. You just have to be ready for it.

Since we don't have a lot of rain, or severely cold weather, I am not concerned about any reduced effectiveness with these pads.

The bottom line is as follows: If you want no dust with close to stock effectiveness and a bit more pedal effort required, go with the Centric pads. If you need to have an aggressive pad with stock pedal feel and don't care about the dust, stay with the stock.

At this point in time, there does not appear to be a middle ground. Some day, there may be a product available that gets us there. When that happens, we'll comment about it. For now, this is what we've got.

I am going to put the Centric pads on my 300C SRT8. I'll provide more guidance on that application as well.

Quick comment....Your second paragraph says it much better than I did. You hit it right on the head.

I know that I am a little late to chime in on this post, but I wanted to give some feedback on the Centrics. I am quite happy with them and Dave Zeckhausen's customer support was great!! He was helpful in selecting the correct pads, installation, and the written bedding procedure on his website was "paint by the numbers".

I used a little brake pad grease and installed the OEM shims (Fr & Rr) even though the Centrics did not require them. No squeal at all with limited dust!!

I have bedded them twice on my way to work - early mornings. This is real blast by the way, and the pad transfer to the rotors was perfect!! Nice gray tint with no excessive grooving.

I agree that I must use more pedal pressure with the Centrics, but it only took about a week for me to become accustomed. The slight performance trade off was outweighed by other benefits. Price wasn't too bad, either.

Centrics here also. Pretty much the same comments as everyone else with them has said. I'm happy with them so far.

Thank you to everyone for their input.

Just a little confused by the GSM pricing/packaging on the Satisfied pads.

Front & Rears are different! They are sold as 4 wheels thru GSM- thats 8 pads total-picture shows only 4 pads-u will get 8 pads(frt&rr). GC

Then GSM needs to fix their site because it speciafically says "These pads are only sold in sets of 4.", which I take to mean 4 pads total.

So this set of 4 is priced at $235, and I need two sets (front & rear) for a total price of $470? Seems quite high, or am I reading this wrong?

Thanks again, and keep the opinions coming,
sfin54

Thank you to everyone for their input.

Just a little confused by the GSM pricing/packaging on the Satisfied pads.




So this set of 4 is priced at $235, and I need two sets (front & rear) for a total price of $470? Seems quite high, or am I reading this wrong?

Thanks again, and keep the opinions coming,
sfin54

Yes, it is misleading. They are sold as all 4 wheels. I would never pay $470.00 for brake pads, a cam maybe :D , but pads never!- Just pick-up the phone & talk to Ryan @ GSM. BTW, PEP BOYS also carries the Satisfied line, they didn't stock the SRT' s though, at least where I'm at. Satisfied part #'s FR-GS6D1149 & RR-GS6D1053

GC

I'll check PepBoys first, before I buy them from GSM then, since PepBoys is local. Either way, I'm getting rid of these damn dirty, squealing factory pads.

Anyone every used Performance Friction carbon metallic pads? Kolak recommended them for the Stillen rotors we were using on the ZJ. They seemed to have little dust and bit well after they were warm.

I have had two sets of Centric and one set of Satisfied

Conclusion

Centric......first set felt wooden even after bedding them and required alot of peddle effort to stop the vehicle. My G/F had a hard time stopping the Jeep one night in a panic situation ...my precious butt was in there and talk about the deer in the headlight look!!!!!...that was enough for me. Loved the NO DUST but the stopping power is greatly compromised.

Satisfied....immediately grab and feel much closer to stock feel. The are low dust. They dust about a 1/4 more than the Centrics but peddle effort is GREATLY reduced. One day they started to squeal......and squeal...I removed them.

Centric...Second set...Called a friend recently who worked at Centric and sold me the 104's Centric Posi Quiet...an employee there installed and bedded them for me. MUCH better than the first set and depending where they are made since they get them from three (3) different sources. I landed a much better set. They dust more than the first set and actually dust about the way the Satisfied did. Well Running9's drove my vehicle during a test and feaked out that the truck had no brake feel. I guess most of us have become acclimated to them(Centrics) so we dont notice it as much.......but we have given up a great deal for no dust.....we compromised for that feature......and thats ok because stock they dust almost untolerably!

Summary......I'm going back to Satisfied but this time will install the anti squeal shim and plenty of lube!

Stanko

I have had two sets of Centric and one set of Satisfied

Conclusion

Centric......first set felt wooden even after bedding them and required alot of peddle effort to stop the vehicle. My G/F had a hard time stopping the Jeep one night in a panic situation ...my precious butt was in there and talk about the deer in the headlight look!!!!!...that was enough for me. Loved the NO DUST but the stopping power is greatly compromised.

Satisfied....immediately grab and feel much closer to stock feel. The are low dust. They dust about a 1/4 more than the Centrics but peddle effort is GREATLY reduced. One day they started to squeal......and squeal...I removed them.

Centric...Second set...Called a friend recently who worked at Centric and sold me the 104's Centric Posi Quiet...an employee there installed and bedded them for me. MUCH better than the first set and depending where they are made since they get them from three (3) different sources. I landed a much better set. They dust more than the first set and actually dust about the way the Satisfied did. Well Running9's drove my vehicle during a test and feaked out that the truck had no brake feel. I guess most of us have become acclimated to them(Centrics) so we dont notice it as much.......but we have given up a great deal for no dust.....we compromised for that feature......and thats ok because stock they dust almost untolerably!

Summary......I'm going back to Satisfied but this time will install the anti squeal shim and plenty of lube!

Stanko

Very nice summary.

I am going to go with the Satisfied set.

Just curious, what is a reasonable price to pay to have the rotors turned and pads installed (all 4)?

Thanks again,
sfin54

Very nice summary.

I am going to go with the Satisfied set.

Just curious, what is a reasonable price to pay to have the rotors turned and pads installed (all 4)?

Thanks again,
sfin54

About 500-600

Other than the price of entry being $350'ish, why not just buy new Brembo pads?