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: 2011 SEMA GC Street


barho
11-02-2010, 02:16 PM
Throw a 6.4L 392 HEMI in this thing and there is your 2012 SRT folks

I WANT ONE!:eek:

Grip Grip
11-02-2010, 02:17 PM
That does look very sharp!

http://www.cherokeesrt8.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=14382&d=1288728997

QuickOne
11-02-2010, 02:20 PM
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=7054994&id=7037526514
I wouldn't mind this one either!!

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs807.snc4/68784_494037226514_7037526514_7054994_1262698_n.jp g

Harrison@Stage6
11-02-2010, 02:20 PM
Needs to be LOWER!!!

m4xm1l10n
11-02-2010, 02:22 PM
Big time BallZ hehe , looks Sharp tho .

QuickOne
11-02-2010, 02:25 PM
That's what the Dial is for...Low, Lower and Lowest.

Colt
11-02-2010, 02:26 PM
I like it. and loooove the color !!

YYCSRT8
11-02-2010, 02:30 PM
Looks mean! Thanks for posting.

Chris@MWP
11-02-2010, 02:34 PM
Both variations look real sharp!

ChrisWK
11-02-2010, 02:44 PM
looks Good I like the color looks like my Dark Khaki on my jeep

kmitch80
11-02-2010, 02:55 PM
i'll take 2!

jntdysf
11-03-2010, 03:25 PM
The front end looks good. It's the booty that needs massaging. LOL. Any pics of the rearend end?

allflashnocash
11-03-2010, 04:16 PM
Throw a 6.4L 392 HEMI in this thing and there is your 2012 SRT folks

I WANT ONE!:eek:

What website did you find this pic? Any more?

BOYCHIKS
11-03-2010, 04:22 PM
Needs center exhaust :p

No, it really does look good.

QuickOne
11-03-2010, 04:39 PM
Here's a video with some more detail: Go to 1:10 in the video...(By the way, those are 22"s!!!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0tZyS4p1JY

MatFab
11-03-2010, 04:45 PM
http://www.socalcustoms.com/Shows/2010/SEMA/DAY1/pages/IMG_3641.htm

side pic

Nik
11-03-2010, 05:53 PM
me think future SRT8 body clad to get customer feedback before releasing true srt8 model.....

bee3633
11-03-2010, 06:02 PM
Nicely done !!!

Harrison@Stage6
11-03-2010, 06:12 PM
That's what the Dial is for...Low, Lower and Lowest.

I bet the Street Version won't have that. There's no need to raise it with street tires on it. They said it's lowered, but needs more just like our current models. Looks good though. 22's are a nice touch. Looks like Factory Reproductions won't be needed.:lol:

Nik
11-03-2010, 06:19 PM
Cayenne's have it, lowers suspension at higher speeds.... why not offer it on the street??

QuickOne
11-03-2010, 06:22 PM
And why not be able to raise a little when us Northerners get 12" of snow in 2 hours.
Or when you have to access poorly built exits or entrances that cause bottoming out.
Lowering when on the highway gets better gas mileage and more stability.
It seems like it would be as simple as putting smaller airbags in the original air suspension found in the quadralift.

TonySRT8
11-03-2010, 06:25 PM
I agree, I think the srt8 is going to look very close to the one at sema.

RMRSRT
11-03-2010, 06:43 PM
I like the SEMA version so far the best. Dont get me wrong, the interior is far better than the current GC version but I still think it's going to be hard to outdo the current SRT version.
I was on the expressway this morning in my company vehicle when I saw a Black GCSRT pull up behind me and all I could think of is "Damn mover over that thing looks evil". The guy seemed to be in a rush and went around me and as he went by all I could think of is "Damn even from the back this thing is evil looking". Somehow I don't think the new version can pull off the same impression especially from the rear. Whenever I see a new GC drive by all I can think of when I see the back of it is GMC Acadia, Toyota Highlander, and all those other Suvs that get lost in the crowd. I hope they keep the center exhaust and give it a sick lowered rear valance.

jdoc7
11-03-2010, 06:46 PM
Nice......in a feminine kinda way! No offense but the WK looks mean and muscular vs. pretty and shapely like the current GC. Nothing wrong with that if that's what you like. I'll keep mine.

Dr.Steve
11-03-2010, 07:11 PM
I just want the suspension! :(

mexicanowed
11-03-2010, 07:31 PM
Would you buy the first year model or wait?I think i want one.

AirForce Hemi
11-03-2010, 07:35 PM
needs to be lower!!!


+1000020984983649815

1BAMFR
11-03-2010, 07:56 PM
Thats HOT!

Can't wait to see the "official" 2012 SRT pic posted on here!

I'll be jealous for sure!

calgary.srt8
11-03-2010, 09:40 PM
The GC exterior is growing on me except for the boot. It's like they gave up on being innovative right when it was time to design it. I wonder if that was right about the time the money ran out at Chrysler? Maybe right before they turned out the lights someone stuck a picture of <<insert here>> SUV's rear end on it. And then when Fiat got back they just picked up the drawings off the floor and sent them to the prototyper.

jps043
11-03-2010, 09:47 PM
Yeah, I'm going to stick with my body style. As someone else said, looks very girly to me, not mean looking at all.

LBCSRT8
11-03-2010, 11:54 PM
I'm slowly coming around and am thinking that the 2012 SRT Jeep is gonna be Bad*** looking and performing! I bet alot of you guys will feel the same when it is finally in production.;)

YoungMedic23
11-04-2010, 02:25 AM
Doesn't look AGGRESSIVE or MEAN at all....SORRY!!!!!

jim383
11-04-2010, 05:57 AM
Doesn't look AGGRESSIVE or MEAN at all....SORRY!!!!!

Paulie wait till you see the curb wt of 5252 on this beast. If the 2012 srt8 is not going to shed any wt off from this 2011 model then that xtra 50 hp wont be any better than the 6.1 as its curbt wt is 4850.
According to the calulator if the 2012 srt8 keep the 5252 wt it still would be .14 faster than the 6.1 at 4850.

a-kon
11-04-2010, 06:52 AM
I like it. and loooove the color !!

+ that color is sharp!

barho
11-04-2010, 08:09 AM
Hi-res photo from wk2jeeps:

http://www.wk2jeeps.com/2011/2011_gc_094_street.jpg

I don't know how anyone can say it looks girly? That front end looks far more agressive than the current version IMO. The headlights are sick compared to the current rounded version.

a-kon
11-04-2010, 08:52 AM
Hi-res photo from wk2jeeps:

http://www.wk2jeeps.com/2011/2011_gc_094_street.jpg

I don't know how anyone can say it looks girly? That front end looks far more agressive than the current version IMO. The headlights are sick compared to the current rounded version.

Agreed. The aggressive fenders help a lot. The rear end needs some work though. It's very boring.

Fix the rear, slap some louvers on the hood, and for the love of God do not put rapper vents/port holes on the fenders and this new jeep will be awesome. Offering a mild two tone interior option would also be nice.

YoungMedic23
11-04-2010, 09:55 AM
Hi-res photo from wk2jeeps:

http://www.wk2jeeps.com/2011/2011_gc_094_street.jpg

I don't know how anyone can say it looks girly? That front end looks far more agressive than the current version IMO. The headlights are sick compared to the current rounded version.

Ummmm......no

Well that's your opinion....

But the overall Jeep just looks huge and rounded....there's no fix for the soft rear and the SEAM on the front bumper makes it look like a DSM ricer add on....

Have you seen the front of the our Jeeps?
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j72/Paulie23/IMG_1029.jpg
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j72/Paulie23/IMG_1027.jpg

08srt8Calgary
11-04-2010, 11:15 AM
I thought about grabbing a 2011 overland the other day...spent a few weeks getting the dealer to massage the numbers to where I was interested and went for a test drive of the 5.7l. Not interested anymore. The weight is very noticeable and the thing launches and merges at highway speeds like a wet shoe box. That 392 is going to have to put out an a$$load of power and torque to get it to do anything- and I will re-visit the showroom at that time.

bernardacura
11-04-2010, 11:20 AM
I agree with Paulie, Jeep does not look sharp it just has too big wheels and lowered front fascia. It strongly needs 2-3" lowering and 20" wheels as bigger are heavier and bigger you go the slower you accelerate, the end looks ugly it is too round for me.
The only two things I like is design of the rims and the color.

barho
11-04-2010, 12:13 PM
I thought about grabbing a 2011 overland the other day...spent a few weeks getting the dealer to massage the numbers to where I was interested and went for a test drive of the 5.7l. Not interested anymore. The weight is very noticeable and the thing launches and merges at highway speeds like a wet shoe box. That 392 is going to have to put out an a$$load of power and torque to get it to do anything- and I will re-visit the showroom at that time.

The fact it "launches and merges at highway speeds like a wet shoe box" has far more to do with the axle ratio rather than the curb weight I would suppose.

The previous generation Overland 5.7L V8 had a 3.73 ratio compared to the 2011 3.47 ratio.

I believe the previous gen Overland curb weight was 4850 compared to the 2011 5210. The 2011 contains all the workings for the airlift in that weight. My guess would be the air lift will not be included on the SRT and the weight/gearing will be much closer to the current gen SRT. Combine that with the increased torque, and this thing will get up and go IMO. :cool:

R_Rod20
11-04-2010, 12:47 PM
DAMN! That thing looks MEAN! Nice pics Youngmedic23! I currently don't own a SRT8 as I am waiting for the new one to come out. BUT, I may be changing my mind and go with an '09/'10. I am torn. I do like the new body style though. Wish the center exhaust would stay.

jntdysf
11-04-2010, 02:01 PM
The rear looks much better with the chrome strip painted.

mklaus
11-04-2010, 02:02 PM
they are nice dont get me wrong, (i love the first gc they showed) Street version needs some work, and the lines dont flow as well, expecially in the front, I do agree with Pauly 100% front bumper needs work, and it doesn't look as mean, I'm stickin with the WK1 http://www.cherokeesrt8.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=1466
http://www.wk2jeeps.com/2011/2011_gc_094_street.jpg

liquiddi
11-04-2010, 02:31 PM
just doesn't do it for me. Without the center exhaust it just looks like every other SUV out there. It doesn't need the rounded lines. They could have built of the square box look of the current version. Looks like a wanna be BMW X5 M.

QuickOne
11-04-2010, 02:42 PM
I think it the new version would look sweet with some side exhaust coming out in front of the rear wheels.
As for the front....The 2006 front doesn't look as mean as the later versions. Nevermind what we are looking at is not the SRT...

smoove7410
11-04-2010, 06:31 PM
It is nice, but the front bumper lip combo does not look smooth.....no worries though bc it isn't the srt front. The one below is the srt front end....one piece and similar to the current version. The lowrider version is an add on lower piece that they will sell for the overland etc..

http://newcarsinfo.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/2012-Jeep-Grand-Cherokee-SRT8-Spy-Shots-3.jpg

yungsrt
11-04-2010, 08:21 PM
It's alright IMO. Not even close to the first gen.
Needs to be lowered for sure.

jeepsjeep
11-08-2010, 03:51 PM
So, what makes us all so sure that the spy photo with the swirls on it is the "real' SRT8 bumper? I don't see any fog lights on it? That makes me think that it is just something they bolted on there for the drive. I cannot believe that they only have 1 prototype bumper. It also does not look like the hood fits on there very well on the spy photo. The hood looks a little rough around the headlight area. I don't think we can make any realistic observations between the 2 pics.

And why would they make the Overland edition into a sport wagon!!?? That is like the flagship of GC off road capability.

Either way, I am dying to see what this thing looks like!

smoove7410
11-08-2010, 06:02 PM
So, what makes us all so sure that the spy photo with the swirls on it is the "real' SRT8 bumper? I don't see any fog lights on it? That makes me think that it is just something they bolted on there for the drive. I cannot believe that they only have 1 prototype bumper. It also does not look like the hood fits on there very well on the spy photo. The hood looks a little rough around the headlight area. I don't think we can make any realistic observations between the 2 pics.

And why would they make the Overland edition into a sport wagon!!?? That is like the flagship of GC off road capability.

Either way, I am dying to see what this thing looks like!

It does have opening for fog lights and driving lights above it. Since they are just testing, neither are installed. This is it...it looks very similar to the current srt 8 front bumper.

They also made an offroad version of the overland for SEMA. The overland is the flagship of options, and hence the most expensive. That is why they started with it.

As for the mule, they took off the cover for hot weather testing.......here it is covered up before hand.

http://gmotors.ie/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/2012-Jeep-Grand-Cherokee-SRT8-rear.jpg

Clearer versions of it exposed:

http://gmotors.ie/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/2012-Jeep-Grand-Cherokee-SRT8-front-3.jpg

http://gmotors.ie/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/2012-Jeep-Grand-Cherokee-SRT8-side.jpg

http://gmotors.ie/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/2012-Jeep-Grand-Cherokee-SRT8-front.jpg

QuickOne
11-09-2010, 06:45 AM
Look at the emblem on the hood!...It's not a Jeep. LOL....:rolleyes:
And the fog lights are just covered by that silly vinyl wrap.

barho
11-09-2010, 07:45 AM
Look at the emblem on the hood!...It's not a Jeep. LOL....:rolleyes:
And the fog lights are just covered by that silly vinyl wrap.

It will be interesting to see what all goes in to the final bumper based on the spy shots. I am not so sure that area just below the headlights is the actual fog lights. You can see where the current foglights go on the 2011 near the bottom of the bumper. I am going to take a guess and say that area covered by the swirls just below the headlights will house some sort of daytime LED runnning lights like you see in this picture of a Q7. Fingers crossed.

smoove7410
11-09-2010, 11:32 AM
I read that the first opening below the headlight is an LED running light. The area below this is a normal fog light.

navyavi469
11-09-2010, 05:39 PM
I think the critisism is running a little deep here. No one is forcing you to buy the next generation WKII SRT8, and you can keep the ones you've got the rest of your lives and be happy. So if you dont' like it, too bad.

I think all the haters are coming off being "too used" to looking at one and only one jeep, that is the current one, the one they're in. More than likely the one you've got has the lowering springs and you're accustomed to the look and mods you've done. Hey, guess what, this one doesn't, not only becuase its not the SRT (its an Overland with a body kit), but because its STOCK...duhhhh. No wonder it looks like it rides to high to you.

When these things start coming out, and people start putting their own lowering springs, their own debadging, their own smoked out tails, HID fogs, cowl hoods, and chrome plated/murdered touches on them, then they're goin to PISS ALL OVER the current 06-09 WK's. The interior NEEDS ROOM, weather you care to admit it or not. I've sat in several of the 2010 limited and the extra 2" of legroom is nice, the rear seats also NEEDS ROOM, and the room that they get isn't a huge increase, maybe an inch or two and thats it... a perfect adjustment if you ask me.

Don't even get me started on the interior, I'd buy a 2011 Overland just for how pimped it is in terms of luxury.

The next gen SRT is going to have a lot of little doo-dads that you can't retro-install on a WK2 no matter what, possibily a lowering air-ride suspension at speed (be cool if you could mod it to drop at the push of a button), and if it doesn't have that, I'd imagine that the drivetrain would have some interesting features, possibly a much better computer-controlled All-wheel-drive system instead of 2 open axles and a transfer case made of old skateboard parts like the current setup. Maybe it'll have a headsup display, lateral G-meter, integrated adjustable sport-mode computer for cornering, and maybe.. just maybe... a friggin launch mode!!! Who knows what it'll have, but I'm counting down the days until I can go buy one.. I"ve been jeepless now for a friggin year.

The new model, IMHO, will be pretty damn sharp if it looks anything like this frankenstine'd Overland. In any case, I hope to buy one in either 2012, or 2013 depending on if I can get orders in the U.S. or if I have to go overseas.

Lets just hope the aftermarket catches up quick, since the engine is the well-known Hemi block, mods will come much more quickly than they did in 06-07. Long Tube Headers, Borla header-back exhaust, Throttle Body, Ported/polished Intake Manifold, Bwoody 4" Intake (get to work greg) will be the first ones on. Then its just a matter of waiting for "Da Toona" to "Break da code" and its game-on. I'm thinkign a 426 from LPM with 9.5:1. Put this thing in 11's and keep her there until Bill finds a way to make it go faster.

I digress, I'm getting ahead of myself.

srtleader
11-09-2010, 07:49 PM
i love my 09 jeep SRT8 more then that Toyota land cruiser look, with that new design of jeep, our 2006 - 2010 jeep SRT8 will be a history you can't forget, and please people allow me to call our loved SRT8, THE LEGEND SRT8

pplace993
11-09-2010, 07:55 PM
I think the SEMA (Street) GC Overland looks pretty good! If they sold it, I'm sure they would sell. Maybe a nice option would be a slightly detuned version of the 392 Hemi( 440hp)! I think it would fit nicely between the Overland & SRT8!

srt812
11-10-2010, 09:00 PM
It looks mean but I would like to see a behind picture to see if it has the center exhaust

Fastest H-Town Realtor
11-11-2010, 02:51 PM
I am going to take a stab and guess I am the only person here who thinks the new unit, in as much as it is a nice ride, is too big. Seems to have lost the current units sporty look.

1BAMFR
11-11-2010, 03:28 PM
I was behind a 2011 GC today......On the lift gate there is a BIG chrome piece thats about 2 ft. long that has the "JEEP" logo in it.....This must be the first mod for these new Jeeps to get a replacement piece made up for the 2011-12 guys. Color Matched with no emblem would look stellar! Maybe Billet Technology could make something?

jntdysf
11-11-2010, 09:23 PM
The strip is painted on the Street version on the video. Looks better painted than chrome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0tZyS4p1JY&feature=player_embedded#!#!

'12SRTFan
11-12-2010, 08:40 AM
Cayenne's have it, lowers suspension at higher speeds.... why not offer it on the street??

I think the critisism is running a little deep here. No one is forcing you to buy the next generation WKII SRT8, and you can keep the ones you've got the rest of your lives and be happy. So if you dont' like it, too bad.

I think all the haters are coming off being "too used" to looking at one and only one jeep, that is the current one, the one they're in. More than likely the one you've got has the lowering springs and you're accustomed to the look and mods you've done. Hey, guess what, this one doesn't, not only becuase its not the SRT (its an Overland with a body kit), but because its STOCK...duhhhh. No wonder it looks like it rides to high to you.

When these things start coming out, and people start putting their own lowering springs, their own debadging, their own smoked out tails, HID fogs, cowl hoods, and chrome plated/murdered touches on them, then they're goin to PISS ALL OVER the current 06-09 WK's. The interior NEEDS ROOM, weather you care to admit it or not. I've sat in several of the 2010 limited and the extra 2" of legroom is nice, the rear seats also NEEDS ROOM, and the room that they get isn't a huge increase, maybe an inch or two and thats it... a perfect adjustment if you ask me.

Don't even get me started on the interior, I'd buy a 2011 Overland just for how pimped it is in terms of luxury.

The next gen SRT is going to have a lot of little doo-dads that you can't retro-install on a WK2 no matter what, possibily a lowering air-ride suspension at speed (be cool if you could mod it to drop at the push of a button), and if it doesn't have that, I'd imagine that the drivetrain would have some interesting features, possibly a much better computer-controlled All-wheel-drive system instead of 2 open axles and a transfer case made of old skateboard parts like the current setup. Maybe it'll have a headsup display, lateral G-meter, integrated adjustable sport-mode computer for cornering, and maybe.. just maybe... a friggin launch mode!!! Who knows what it'll have, but I'm counting down the days until I can go buy one.. I"ve been jeepless now for a friggin year.

The new model, IMHO, will be pretty damn sharp if it looks anything like this frankenstine'd Overland. In any case, I hope to buy one in either 2012, or 2013 depending on if I can get orders in the U.S. or if I have to go overseas.

Lets just hope the aftermarket catches up quick, since the engine is the well-known Hemi block, mods will come much more quickly than they did in 06-07. Long Tube Headers, Borla header-back exhaust, Throttle Body, Ported/polished Intake Manifold, Bwoody 4" Intake (get to work greg) will be the first ones on. Then its just a matter of waiting for "Da Toona" to "Break da code" and its game-on. I'm thinkign a 426 from LPM with 9.5:1. Put this thing in 11's and keep her there until Bill finds a way to make it go faster.

I digress, I'm getting ahead of myself.
this really seems to be the truth. 1st gen srt owners seem to be so spoiled to what they own. These pics of the GC street and the spy shots probably won't do the actual production '12 SRT any justice. From the looks of the GC street...the idea was cool, and it does look sharp and clean. So did the 1st gen SRTs when they appeared on the scene. And for those ppl, like me that have floods, snow, uneven roads and pot holes...we don't need the jeep to be too low. But, its funny because this next SRT might be a sleeper...too many ppl are worried about an aggressive look...that's where mods come into play! Let's worry about how this 5k+ bull is gonna push...

LBCSRT8
11-14-2010, 12:58 PM
I think the critisism is running a little deep here. No one is forcing you to buy the next generation WKII SRT8, and you can keep the ones you've got the rest of your lives and be happy. So if you dont' like it, too bad.

I think all the haters are coming off being "too used" to looking at one and only one jeep, that is the current one, the one they're in. More than likely the one you've got has the lowering springs and you're accustomed to the look and mods you've done. Hey, guess what, this one doesn't, not only becuase its not the SRT (its an Overland with a body kit), but because its STOCK...duhhhh. No wonder it looks like it rides to high to you.

When these things start coming out, and people start putting their own lowering springs, their own debadging, their own smoked out tails, HID fogs, cowl hoods, and chrome plated/murdered touches on them, then they're goin to PISS ALL OVER the current 06-09 WK's. The interior NEEDS ROOM, weather you care to admit it or not. I've sat in several of the 2010 limited and the extra 2" of legroom is nice, the rear seats also NEEDS ROOM, and the room that they get isn't a huge increase, maybe an inch or two and thats it... a perfect adjustment if you ask me.

Don't even get me started on the interior, I'd buy a 2011 Overland just for how pimped it is in terms of luxury.

The next gen SRT is going to have a lot of little doo-dads that you can't retro-install on a WK2 no matter what, possibily a lowering air-ride suspension at speed (be cool if you could mod it to drop at the push of a button), and if it doesn't have that, I'd imagine that the drivetrain would have some interesting features, possibly a much better computer-controlled All-wheel-drive system instead of 2 open axles and a transfer case made of old skateboard parts like the current setup. Maybe it'll have a headsup display, lateral G-meter, integrated adjustable sport-mode computer for cornering, and maybe.. just maybe... a friggin launch mode!!! Who knows what it'll have, but I'm counting down the days until I can go buy one.. I"ve been jeepless now for a friggin year.

The new model, IMHO, will be pretty damn sharp if it looks anything like this frankenstine'd Overland. In any case, I hope to buy one in either 2012, or 2013 depending on if I can get orders in the U.S. or if I have to go overseas.

Lets just hope the aftermarket catches up quick, since the engine is the well-known Hemi block, mods will come much more quickly than they did in 06-07. Long Tube Headers, Borla header-back exhaust, Throttle Body, Ported/polished Intake Manifold, Bwoody 4" Intake (get to work greg) will be the first ones on. Then its just a matter of waiting for "Da Toona" to "Break da code" and its game-on. I'm thinkign a 426 from LPM with 9.5:1. Put this thing in 11's and keep her there until Bill finds a way to make it go faster.

I digress, I'm getting ahead of myself.

I'm with ya on that one. It always takes a minute to warm up to a redesigned vehicle. When the "actual" 2012 SRT Jeep is introduced, everyone will be praising it! Oh, and I can't wait to see what you do to this beast Winston!

ITS A JEEP THING
11-15-2010, 05:46 PM
Drop it and low pro tires on those 22's.

Joe Las Vegas
11-15-2010, 08:04 PM
Make it look like this and make the interior dark and I'll be all over it.

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h7/pjosephlv/2012%20GCSRT8/th_2012SRT8.jpg (http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h7/pjosephlv/2012%20GCSRT8/2012SRT8.jpg)

mlarco52
11-15-2010, 11:37 PM
wonder when they will be taking orders on the new 2012 srt8 or even be releasing the actual vehicle photos or anything...so far I am very excited and will be putting my deposit in the day my local dealer or anyone near me can put in their order for one...I've already talked to a dealer in town and made sure I'm the first on his list to get one as soon as possible

Joe Las Vegas
11-16-2010, 12:08 AM
wonder when they will be taking orders on the new 2012 srt8 or even be releasing the actual vehicle photos or anything...





2012 Grand Cherokee (includes WKJeeps.com exclusive advance info) (http://www.wkjeeps.com/future_jeeps.htm#12GRAND)
http://www.wkjeeps.com/2012/2012_wk_srt8_001s.jpg (http://www.wkjeeps.com/2012/2012_wk_srt8_001.jpg)


Production startup July 2011
Sales launch: September 1, 2011
All-new 2nd generation SRT8 model (new 6.4L Hemi, estimated 475 hp/460 torque)
SRT8 premiere: NY Auto show April 20, 2011

They used to have the New 8-speed automatic dual-clutch transmission listed in the 2012 section, but they moved it into the 2013 section, so I wonder what trans the 2012 will get.

mlarco52
11-16-2010, 10:12 AM
2012 Grand Cherokee (includes WKJeeps.com exclusive advance info) (http://www.wkjeeps.com/future_jeeps.htm#12GRAND)
http://www.wkjeeps.com/2012/2012_wk_srt8_001s.jpg (http://www.wkjeeps.com/2012/2012_wk_srt8_001.jpg)


Production startup July 2011
Sales launch: September 1, 2011
All-new 2nd generation SRT8 model (new 6.4L Hemi, estimated 475 hp/460 torque)
SRT8 premiere: NY Auto show April 20, 2011

They used to have the New 8-speed automatic dual-clutch transmission listed in the 2012 section, but they moved it into the 2013 section, so I wonder what trans the 2012 will get.

great...thanks joe! appreciate the help :)

cannot wait to see the final product

navyavi469
11-16-2010, 03:33 PM
The transmission will be the key.... an 8-speed is not necessarily going to be a blessing. If the 8-speed can only handle 550 ft-lb before it starts to shred itself, then all those extra gears aren't going to mean anything if you intend to mod. I'd rather they just stick with the NAG1 so we can instantly drop-in a replacement trans capable of 1000hp.

navyavi469
11-16-2010, 03:38 PM
2012 Grand Cherokee (includes WKJeeps.com exclusive advance info) (http://www.wkjeeps.com/future_jeeps.htm#12GRAND)
http://www.wkjeeps.com/2012/2012_wk_srt8_001s.jpg (http://www.wkjeeps.com/2012/2012_wk_srt8_001.jpg)


Production startup July 2011
Sales launch: September 1, 2011
All-new 2nd generation SRT8 model (new 6.4L Hemi, estimated 475 hp/460 torque)
SRT8 premiere: NY Auto show April 20, 2011

They used to have the New 8-speed automatic dual-clutch transmission listed in the 2012 section, but they moved it into the 2013 section, so I wonder what trans the 2012 will get.

A September 2011 Launch for the 2012 Cherokee, probably won't see the SRT8 until a few months later, at least thats my guess. I'm going to wait until mid 2012 then to see if there is a drivetrain change between 2012 and 2013.

1BAMFR
11-16-2010, 04:58 PM
Winston...you should just buy a 2011 Limited and drop a stroker, nag1, 8.8, and Turbos in it.

Add some cosmetic things and rock on!!!

navyavi469
11-16-2010, 05:27 PM
No I think i'll be taking a more traditional approach to the 2012 a-la Builder Bill.

Start with Bolt-on mods; full custom 3" exhuast, LT headers, exhaust, custom intake, 90mm TB, port-matched heads and intake manifold, billet fuel rails, MSD plugs, and the stock camshaft. We'll do a stock and modded dyno run to make sure that A/F is well within limits. Most stock tunes on stock cams are pig-rich, so opening up the intake and exhaust is usually very safe and lands you a stoich ratio. My guess is that it will take stock 392 w/475hp to around 535 at the flywheel, at least enough to get into the mid 12's.

Then its a matter of waiting for a tuning capabilities, and the block can come out for surgery. 426, the full monty of forged goodies, 9.5:1 compression, injectors, and a mild N/A cam. Now that you've changed the displacement and cam profile, tuning is mandatory, but the stock fuel supply system should still be more than capable. This should land a N/A 426 with a race-weight of around 5300lb into the upper 11's.

From this point, there's no point in continuing with mods until full drivetrain solutions are realized, and that is a huge variable. Depending on the powertrain and transmission, it may be 3 or 4 years before I would want to push into the 1000hp region; and if the double-clutch or AWD system proves to be too copmlicated to modify.

Reason I would want to go this route is becuase i want to use the Jeep as a DD, going too extreme from the beginning usually means you have a project vehicle that spends 90% of its time in the garadge, and 10% of its time at the track.

Good news is that now that I've got a great Fabrication guy that can work with me from Stage6, I wont be waiting around for Borla and Bwoody, everything will be custom fabbed and hand welded.