Do You Thing Jeep Srt8 Can Go Sideways? Kinda Drift Or It Is Not Good Idea?
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I would think with the stock AWD setup, it isn't a drifting ride. You need a tuner RWD ride to drift right.

I turned off ESP and tried everything to break this car/SUV/truck loose...
it is not possible...
unless in water or oil...
just "hooks up" to well...

I've gotten pretty sideways with ESP turned off and gunning it around some corners. Quite fun.

I've gotten pretty sideways with ESP turned off and gunning it around some corners. Quite fun.

Same here. I only did it once though!

Same here. I only did it once though!
This is coming from a guy who had a Viper sideways in the autocross part of the SRT Track Experience. He also did a major 360 in a mini mall parking lot in his Ram SRT-10 when some other truck owners asked him if it was as fast as they heard. He's my hero!

I was sideways in a GC SRT8 during the hot laps with the pro driver at the SRT Track Experience. We were drifting through an "S" turn at about 80 mph.

:)

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I tried my hardest to get this turck to drift at Road America on the 4 mile road course at the SRT track experience. It gripped like nothing I have ever experienced myself. I had the crossfire, magnum, and charger all into drifts. The Jeep wanted nothing to do with drifting.

I think the surface has alot to do with it. We have really slick roads around here, so its quite easy. A track surface, it probably grips too well.

i hope you are joking

Joking about what?

i hope you are joking

if I took out the esp fuse from under the hood, would it make the car only rwd

if I took out the esp fuse from under the hood, would it make the car only rwd


No, it onlys disables the ABS.

Remove the front drive shaft to make it RWD.

It still boggles me that people pay good money for these jeeps to do burnouts!

I learned a lot about ESP at the SRT track experience. According to the experts, when you push the ESP deactivation button in any SRT8, and the "ESP off" light comes on the system is not totally deactivated. I was told that it deactivates about 80% of the system. BUT, if you hold down the deactivation button for 5-10 seconds (in all SRT8s, excluding the Jeep) the system will chime, the light will blink, and it will be 100% turned off. The Jeep's ESP cannot be totally deactived. The only way to completely deactivate it is to get the ESP mod from GSM. This allows you to completely dissable the system at the push of a button. A small problem is that it will also turn off the ABS (the two systems are controlled by the same fuse/wiring).

I learned a lot about ESP at the SRT track experience. According to the experts, when you push the ESP deactivation button in any SRT8, and the "ESP off" light comes on the system is not totally deactivated. I was told that it deactivates about 80% of the system. BUT, if you hold down the deactivation button for 5-10 seconds (in all SRT8s, excluding the Jeep) the system will chime, the light will blink, and it will be 100% turned off. The Jeep's ESP cannot be totally deactived. The only way to completely deactivate it is to get the ESP mod from GSM. This allows you to completely dissable the system at the push of a button. A small problem is that it will also turn off the ABS (the two systems are controlled by the same fuse/wiring).

There is no "100% off" factory switch on any of the SRT8 vehicles. The Charger, 300C and Magnum SRT8's have what is known as three-mode ESP. When the ESP Off switch is depressed and quickly released, the system turns off ESP like any other model, but if the switch is held down for a period of five seconds or longer before releasing, the ESP system further reduces the amount of torque management provided. The system can be returned to “normal” by briefly pressing and releasing the ESP Off switch.

From another DCX product... may not work on SRT8s, YMMV.

From Car & Driver magazine:

For years we've complained about the butt-in behavior of the electronic stability programs in Mercedes-Benzes, which automatically intervene to shut down power and braking when they think your driving needs help. A dashboard switch suggests the program can be turned off, but it can't—it just kicks in at what it sees as a more intemperate level of driving on your part. We were convinced it simply could not be shut off.

Well, Benz lovers, we found a way.

Here's how. To start, turn the ignition key to the first accessory position, making sure the dash display shows the odometer. The SRS airbag light should be on. Press the trip odometer reset button three times rapidly before it goes off. If you do this right, a screen will appear showing a voltmeter. Then press the "up" arrow on the left side of the wheel twice to take you to the "ESP dynamometer test" screen. Using the plus (+) button on the right side of the wheel, select "on." And then start the car. Warnings will appear informing you that the ESP, ABS, and BAS (brake assist) aids are now turned off and you're on your own.

If you did it right, you've put the car in a mode intended for diagnostic testing on a rolling dynamometer—all electronic supervision is unplugged. Unhindered by techno-aids, the SLK's grip on the skidpad improved by 0.03 g compared with simply hitting the ESP switch on the dash. To return all the safety technology, scroll back to the dyno test screen and select "w/t. 15 off" with the minus (-) button. Shutting off all the electronic aids isn't easy, and that should tell you something. Owners are not generally privy to the dynamometer mode; therefore, we will continue to publish test numbers attained with the dashboard ESP switch turned off. We just thought you'd want to know

Does not work on the SRT8 GC.

It still boggles me that people pay good money for these jeeps to do burnouts!


A good burnout is one of lifes simple but great pleasures.

Live and let live my good man.

I installed a GSM ESP mod on mine just to aid in burnouts, the slight added speed and lower ET's are just a bonus.

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Somone here posted a video of their Jeep doing a RWD burnout and said that all you have to do is unplug the wiring harness from the transfer case, so curiosity got the best of me and I just tried it. The plug was very difficult to take off but it was worth it... you wouldn't believe the difference it made. The whole truck feels lighter on it's feet with much more sports-car-like throttle response. I tried a little burnout but ESP kicked in. Hit the ESP button and tried again... let me tell you... it's really tempting but try not to rip your tires to shreds.

The only problem is I tried once to do a donut and just as the back end swung around there was a loud bang sound from the drivetrain. I was scared I popped a U-joint or something but there was no damage. Not worth risking anything, I'm not going to try that again. I think.
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So you say its really tempting, but did you do the monster burnout? :)

Remove the front drive shaft to make it RWD.

I laughed really hard when I read that comment:D

Not yet. If I'm going to make even the smallest cloud of white smoke I'm going to do it for fun in front of a bunch of friends. Doing it when nobody's watching would be like drinking Cristal while you're alone, a waste of precious resources. :p
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So if taking the wiring harness off of the transfer case makes it 2wd, then GSM should make something similiar to there esp/fan mod switch to make the jeep 2wd on the fly as long as its safe for the transfer case.:D

I was the first one to post diconnecting the trans case for dyno runs.See me doing it in my SRT at putfile.com and search for GC SRT8 burnout.

I was already thinking along those lines... installing a relay on the red power line going to the transfer case should do the trick. The problem is that I don't know for sure that it's safe in the long run. I'd rather not take the chance but if anyone else wants to try, be my guest!
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I got the ESP/fan mod from GS Motorsports and you can get the Jeep sideways @ will.It's alot of fun!

I did some thinking about the bang sound I encountered when I first tried to do a little donut after disconnecting the transfer case.

First of all, I need to say this bang sound was exactly the same sound I heard in a new completely stock Mercedes 4Matic while crossing train tracks in the rain, both rear wheels were on the tracks and the front were on pavement, I gave it shot of gas to pull through an opening in traffic and got a loud bang as the electronic transfer case quickly engaged the front driveshaft... that being precisely at a moment when the front and rear driveshafts were moving at significantly different speeds.

I also got this sound in the Jeep a while back, when completely stock, in all wheel drive mode, ESP partially off, I did a quick 180 degree turn with a slight fishtail. This actually happened twice, same situation, different time and place, same bang. Again, the front and rear driveshafts were moving at different speeds when the transfer case seems to have coupled them.

Tonight in the rain, in "rear wheel drive mode" I was fishtailing through a turn and as soon as the ESP light flashed, I got banged (shut up you perverts). This time it wasn't as loud as before, I'm assuming because there wasn't as great a differential in my axle speeds, but I could see and feel that it happened at the exact time the ESP system did whatever it wanted to do.

The odd thing was that the transfer case was, electrically speaking, completely disconnected. So apparantly this is a purely mechanical event, possibly involving the differentials.

So my big bang theory is that it occurs whenever the ESP system is altering unequal axle movement. If my theory is correct, if I completely turn off ESP by pulling the fuse then this problem should not occur. Such a hypothesis requires experimentation, and possible video analysis.

Any thoughts?
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I always get that bang, when in the rain I fishtail goin around a corner. I was really nervous that I was gonna break something. Is it bad for the diff??

IDEALRIDES you shouldn't share this with too many people "Doing it when nobody's watching would be like drinking Cristal while you're alone, a waste of precious resources."

It's not hard at all to do on a rainy day....ESP off, accelerate during the apex of a turn. I've done it in residential neighbourhoods a bunch of times (when theres no sight of pedestrians...ha)