Ok What do you want to know about the ASM Super charger kit?

Here are some Photos. UNBELIEVABLE craftsmanship, bible of directions. Every step very well planed out!! LOTS OF PARTS

What do you want to know about it. (its not installed yet and i dont have exact HP #'s yet, claim 125)

http://web.mac.com/drivenphotography/iWeb/Family%20Site/Photos_files/IMG_3496.jpg

http://web.mac.com/drivenphotography/iWeb/Family%20Site/Photos_files/IMG_3495.jpg

http://web.mac.com/drivenphotography/iWeb/Family%20Site/Photos_files/IMG_3499.jpg

http://web.mac.com/drivenphotography/iWeb/Family%20Site/Photos_files/IMG_3498.jpg

http://web.mac.com/drivenphotography/iWeb/Family%20Site/Photos_files/IMG_3500.jpg

Very cool Fast, and congratulations.

Will you be installing this on your own?

CONGRATS!!!! Oh man, I'm so excited for you. This is truly AWESOME.

Get lots of pics of the install!

Congrats Chris, can't wait to see some numbers and your impressions. When do you think it will be installed?
Anything new on the ported head situation?

yummmmmmmmyyy

Thanks awd, mango

I was planing on doing it myself with GRNENVY(nick) but my heads and cam install is not done, so I will just let the shop do it. But for this I plan on helping, if they don't mind.


Very cool Fast, and congratulations.

Will you be installing this on your own?

Looks WaaaaY Cool! But definetly not a starter kit for us Novices... I get pumped when I change my own oil!

T-Time

I'm with T-Time. I would probably try and build a flugelhorn with those parts - talk about a blower!

Are they my finger prints on the aftercooler. Yikes :) :)
I have been around Vortech and paxton kits for atleast 17 years and this is a very nice well thought out kit. The installers will tell us the rest.

Wow.............looks great!
Get that on the engine FAST!!!
Bill

very impressive... let us know how the install is and lets see some numbers damnit

Fast is that a K&N drop in filter I see?? What about the Volant you have in now??

I'm jealous as hell. You already have a blower for your SRT8 and I dont even have an SRT8 yet. DAMN YOU! Better keep your jeep locked...I'm on the way to tampa...HAHA.

Fast is that a K&N drop in filter I see?? What about the Volant you have in now??


Its a cone filter. The volant is spoken for... I believe? IF not start your bids:)

How is the boost controlled on that puppy?


Jeff

Panties drop for supercharged Jeeps, at least that's what I heard. :D

SWEET!

How is the boost controlled on that puppy?


Jeff

THere is a MAP sensor that is vacuum fed. It runs to the unichip.They machined a throttle body spacer where you connect it to, also the BOV (blow off valve) connects to it. It has an extra hole for some happy gas:D . TH

Looks great! Hope this install goes better than the Heads & cam, so far. You certainly have more patience than I do!

Looks great! Hope this install goes better than the Heads & cam, so far. You certainly have more patience than I do!



gculver, how do you think that hellfire will work with the Forced Induction.

THere is a MAP sensor that is vacuum fed. It runs to the unichip.They machined a throttle body spacer where you connect it to, also the BOV (blow off valve) connects to it. It has an extra hole for some happy gas:D . TH

Can I see some pics of the Blow Off valve, please.

I myself would install 8 Nitrous nozzles in the intake runner at the valve port.

Jeff

Can I see some pics of the Blow Off valve, please.

I myself would install 8 Nitrous nozzles in the intake runner at the valve port.

Jeff


I will get some photos of the TB plate, BOV, and the MAP

LIKE THIS??

http://web.mac.com/drivenphotography/iWeb/Family%20Site/Photos_files/SRTsupchgr%20001.jpg

gculver, how do you think that hellfire will work with the Forced Induction.

I think it's a better choice than your 1st, IMO. There will be more torque than the law should allow!!!-- Your not spooling a turbo-no big exhaust lifts needed, plus I think the stock shortblock will survive a little longer with the added combustion chamber pressures. From my understanding,the prototype Jeep was running a 268 and B&G II, so we know the kit(tuning&psi) works well around those lifts/durations and overlaps.

I will get some photos of the TB plate, BOV, and the MAP

LIKE THIS??

http://web.mac.com/drivenphotography/iWeb/Family%20Site/Photos_files/SRTsupchgr%20001.jpg

Yeessssssssssssssssssssss

I think it's a better choice than your 1st, IMO. There will be more torque than the law should allow!!!-- Your not spooling a turbo-no big exhaust lifts needed, plus I think the stock shortblock will survive a little longer with the added combustion chamber pressures. From my understanding,the prototype Jeep was running a 268 and B&G II, so we know the kit(tuning&psi) works well around those lifts/durations and overlaps.

Thanks, good info as usual!!

I think I will drop the pulley size. I am going to loose some PSI from the heads so my thinking is Up the boost, one to get more boost down low, two to compensate for the PnP heads, and control the max boost through the BOV. BAD IDEA OR GOOD?

A nice non slip polished Billet Flow blower pulley would look awesome with all the shiny parts.
I have seen 1-2 psi boost drop from long tubes but not from heads being ported. Boost is a measurement of back pressure. The blower is set to spin off of pulley size so the setup on your truck may read less then it would on mine but your still getting the same amount of air/volume. I'm hoping this cam is awesome (overlap) I can't wait for this truck to be finished.

Thanks, good info as usual!!

I think I will drop the pulley size. I am going to loose some PSI from the heads so my thinking is Up the boost, one to get more boost down low, two to compensate for the PnP heads, and control the max boost through the BOV. BAD IDEA OR GOOD?

If it's DR's standard P&P(not heavily working the bowl area),you will not even notice. I think with that cam, you will not need any more down low. Play with it a while, before you jack the boost up.

I have seen more cams not work out in blower cars then you could imagine especially in low boost aplications. Then the guys start jacking up the boost to make up for the pwr loss. I don't want to sound negative just hoping for great results.


If it's DR's standard P&P(not heavily working the bowl area),you will not even notice. I think with that cam, you will not need any more down low. Play with it a while, before you jack the boost up.

Thats a SWEET set up!

Good luck on the install and please keep us informed!

Just curious about the BOV. Does it sound the same like a BOV on a turbo car. I have a BOV on my SRT4 and love the sound.

Just curious about the BOV. Does it sound the same like a BOV on a turbo car. I have a BOV on my SRT4 and love the sound.

Does your BOV recycle or go to atmosphere?

Fast,

Looking sweet! :cool:

Just curious about the BOV. Does it sound the same like a BOV on a turbo car. I have a BOV on my SRT4 and love the sound.


From my experiences the BOV on a S/C sounds a bit different, never mind on a automatic.

I don't understand all the technical mumbo jumbo. Might as well be speaking Hebrew or something, but I do know you are one lucky mudder fudder! Good luck and may the force be with you during the install. :D

Does your BOV recycle or go to atmosphere?


Atmosphere

Atmosphere

I thiiiiiink recycle might only be for turbos....

all I have to say is WOW. Very nice

Cars that run a mass air flow sensor need to recycle the excess pressure from the BOV.
They have to meter all the air or drivabilty would suffer and likely stall out.
The setup that FAST got with the supercharger runs a map sensor hooked to manifold pressure. There using the map sensor to control the rate of fuel needed per pound of boost air/fuel. This is the cheapest way to go unless you were to run a fast system or go with a metered type system. I would have rather seen a metered type system go on just like the kit ford offered for the 5.0 mustang back in 1987-1988. Ford and GM use air meters on all there performance vehicals. Being it's a Manifold Absolute Pressure sensor system it's going to be tough to tune for added mods and pwr increase unless they did the tables already in the UNI. Now they need to have a hand help that piggies this system for on the fly tuning. Kinda like the PMS that is offered for the stang.
If this kit was offered with a meter it could have been tuned by SCT or Diablo which would be much easier when making changes.
I thiiiiiink recycle might only be for turbos....

sweet chris, cant wait to get the final #s,better hold on!!!!!!!!!!

sweet chris, cant wait to hear the final #s,better hold on!!!:>


prettyyyyyyyyyyyy

.....I see long single black marks in your future...................haha.

Awesome man, congrats.....

What plugs do they come with/recommend?

I better get the first ride in it. :) :)

Does your BOV recycle or go to atmosphere?

Mine goes to the atmosphere. You can have it set up so it is recycled, but i wanted it like this, you can hear the blow off alot better. And i have never had one problem with stalling or anything. I'm not a "ricer" or anything like that i just love the sound of the BOV with the short ram intake.

Does the SRT-4 have a meter on it and if it doesn't why would you recycle it know need.


Mine goes to the atmosphere. You can have it set up so it is recycled, but i wanted it like this, you can hear the blow off alot better. And i have never had one problem with stalling or anything. I'm not a "ricer" or anything like that i just love the sound of the BOV with the short ram intake.

SICK!!

I WANT ONE!!!

Can't wait to see some Dyno #'s!!!
:eek:

Congrats Chris, can't wait to see some numbers and your impressions. When do you think it will be installed?
Anything new on the ported head situation?

As long as Matt gets those heads out to me by tuesday wed. I plan on have it up and running by weeks end or middle of the following. Fingers crossed.

If I have the time I'll take you to pick it up. :)


As long as Matt gets those heads out to me by tuesday wed. I plan on have it up and running by weeks end or middle of the following. Fingers crossed.

If I have the time I'll take you to pick it up. :)


YOU better make time B1TCH!!! You need to be there for the dyno runs as well!! Nice to see you spending a bit more time on here!!

Does the SRT-4 have a meter on it and if it doesn't why would you recycle it know need.

I dont believe it does have a meter. What kind of meter are you talking about?

And i cannot wait to see your Jeep when it gets done. Its going to be kick ass.

I will get some photos of the TB plate, BOV, and the MAP

LIKE THIS??

http://web.mac.com/drivenphotography/iWeb/Family%20Site/Photos_files/SRTsupchgr%20001.jpg


Holy Frankenstein!!!:D

Another name for meter is mass air flow sensor or mass air meter it's ford mumbo - jumbo. BOV are on non metered cars and by pass valves are on metered cars they do the same thing same purpose.
To vent unwanted pressure away from the throttle plate and relieve the back pressure from the impeller in the blower case, you don't want that touching. :eek: :eek:

I dont believe it does have a meter. What kind of meter are you talking about?

Nicks under the weather and were sitting in so I have more free time on the computer.


YOU better make time B1TCH!!! You need to be there for the dyno runs as well!! Nice to see you spending a bit more time on here!!

Cars that run a mass air flow sensor need to recycle the excess pressure from the BOV.
They have to meter all the air or drivabilty would suffer and likely stall out.
The setup that FAST got with the supercharger runs a map sensor hooked to manifold pressure. There using the map sensor to control the rate of fuel needed per pound of boost air/fuel. This is the cheapest way to go unless you were to run a fast system or go with a metered type system. I would have rather seen a metered type system go on just like the kit ford offered for the 5.0 mustang back in 1987-1988. Ford and GM use air meters on all there performance vehicals. Being it's a Manifold Absolute Pressure sensor system it's going to be tough to tune for added mods and pwr increase unless they did the tables already in the UNI. Now they need to have a hand help that pigies this system for on the tab tuning. Kinda like the PMS that is offered for the stang.
If this kit was offered with a meter it could have been tuned by SCT or Diablo which would be much easier when making changes.

Yeah your right. For some reason I thought a Paxton2000 I installed on a Lincoln Navigator went to atmosphere, thought maybe the centrifugal SC's might be different. But yes, that Navi recycles also.

I will get some photos of the TB plate, BOV, and the MAP

LIKE THIS??

http://web.mac.com/drivenphotography/iWeb/Family%20Site/Photos_files/SRTsupchgr%20001.jpg

This picture makes my special place tingle.

http://forums.offtopic.com/images/smilies/naughty.gifhttp://forums.offtopic.com/images/smilies/hsugh.gif

Just curious, why are you doing nitrous?

Another name for meter is mass air flow sensor or mass air meter it's ford mumbo - jumbo. BOV are on non metered cars and by pass valves are on metered cars they do the same thing same purpose.
To vent unwanted pressure away from the throttle plate and relieve the back pressure from the impeller in the blower case, you don't want that touching. :eek: :eek:

Thank you for explaining that. I think you can have it wired either way on our cars. I never really got into all the technical stuff like that. I have a problem retaining information i dont use all the time. lol.

Fast - I'm now trolling your forum! You misspelled the title of your thread.

If that Jeep is done this coming week, then we're going to the track. Remember - I'm on vacation !

Just curious, why are you doing nitrous?


Mango, No NOS for me. That just a photo from ASM of their quality work. once again just a STOCK PHOTO. ;)

Fast - I'm now trolling your forum! You misspelled the title of your thread.

If that Jeep is done this coming week, then we're going to the track. Remember - I'm on vacation !


Welcome Coldones. You better start spending some money on that GOAT!!! Or we can just tie it to the back of the Jeep!! Thanks for the spelling correction. I also believe you took off the wrong week. Next week will probably be D-Day... patiently waiting!!

THere is a MAP sensor that is vacuum fed. It runs to the unichip.They machined a throttle body spacer where you connect it to, also the BOV (blow off valve) connects to it. It has an extra hole for some happy gas:D . TH
the unichip is an awesome system, and fairly easy to tune too... AND, it just so happens my local speed shop in NJ is very familiar with tuning them..... maybe the ASM kit is in my future once i get an SRT8

freudian slip. superchared as in charring the tires once it's installed. :D

freudian slip. superchared as in charring the tires once it's installed. :D


I was going to explain it like that, but using the charring of my buddy's(coldones) GTO as the example. Oh well you beat me to it. :D

I was going to explain it like that, but using the charring of my buddy's(coldones) GTO as the example. Oh well you beat me to it. :D Fast, ow far along are you on S/C install? John

Fast, ow far along are you on S/C install? John

The heads arrive tomorrow UPS, the holiday messed us up. SO I have a good feeling that by Wednesday it should be on the dyno!! Waiting, I have forgotten what it was like to drive it..... TWO MONTHS NO JEEP:mad: BuT i should get it back with 200 extra ponies:D

Going to plan my next vacation around Tampa.:)

nice..........

Going to plan my next vacation around Tampa.:)


Come on down!!! No need to pay the high prices at Disney!!! I have my own space mountain.

PANA where are you in FLA???

Still waitin' for a pic of the Blow Off Valve................................:(



Jeff

Opps!!

Sorry about that, I usually don't forget. When i go to the shop on Fri I will take a photo of it.

Still waitin' for a pic of the Blow Off Valve................................:(



Jeff

Still waitin' for a pic of the Blow Off Valve................................:(



Jeff


SORRY JEFF :o

Here are your photos, phone pics.

Today I spent some time mounting all the brackets on the kit, installed the UNICHIP. Monday I will mount the Supercharger to the bracket and install the injectors. By then the heads and cam should be done. Its finally coming along ;)

http://web.mac.com/drivenphotography/iWeb/Family%20Site/Photos_files/Photo_06.jpg


http://web.mac.com/drivenphotography/iWeb/Family%20Site/Photos_files/Photo_07.jpg

AHHHHHH gotcha, an adjustable wastegate. :)


Jeff

Yep, Here are my thoughts

With the standard kit 5-6psi
With the P&P heads and Headers 3-4psi

So if the air/fuel is good on the dyno I will order two new pulleys. A 6-8 and a 8-10. I will adjust the wastegate to keep the boost under control and the A/F on target... WHAT CHA THINK??

A little more power and it should kick in earlier!

So if the air/fuel is good on the dyno I will order two new pulleys. A 6-8 and a 8-10. I will adjust the wastegate to keep the boost under control and the A/F on target... WHAT CHA THINK??

A little more power and it should kick in earlier!

Well that all depends on what grind the cam is, and where the start of the engines "sweet spot" is (my term and not a engineering phrase)

One area I never see on these boards with dealing with Forced Induction on these engines and the lack of fuel flow with the demands of forced induction, and the lack of true tuning at this point.

If the fuel pressure was increased with a bigger fuel pump. This is the Aeromotive 1000HP flow pump I use
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c96/Blown7/newpicAug1006029.jpg



And then using a boost referenced fuel pressure regulator (like this one from Aeromotive that I run on the 6-71)

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c96/Blown7/newpicAug1006143.jpg

The reason for this is the injector pulse width tuning on the GC can't be done. So if you can't increase the pulse width, increase the fuel rail pressure and still do the same thing.

In my case under full boost the 40 LB injectors (with 16 of them) I can't increase the pulse width anymore without screwing up the duty cycle of the injectors so I just pour more fuel in by increasing the fuel rail pressure.
I'm surprised no one hasn't done that yet with the 6.1's yet.



Jeff




Jeff

Yep, Here are my thoughts

With the standard kit 5-6psi
With the P&P heads and Headers 3-4psi

So if the air/fuel is good on the dyno I will order two new pulleys. A 6-8 and a 8-10. I will adjust the wastegate to keep the boost under control and the A/F on target... WHAT CHA THINK??

A little more power and it should kick in earlier!

Chris,
Are you dropping the static C/R with thicker head gaskets, or using race gas? 10psi on the stock bottom end is going to be hairy.

We have this planed already... GOOD CALL. Like I stated everything will be dependant on the A/F. I know these things are pig rich in a normal situation. So if i can find a place to put a FP gauge so i can see how it acts we will be set. Get a kenny bell boost a pump http://www.kennebell.net/accessories/boostapump/boostapump.htm
with an in cabin controler and a good A/F meter, boost gauge, we should be reliable as all get out!

Chris,
Are you dropping the static C/R with thicker head gaskets, or using race gas? 10psi on the stock bottom end is going to be hairy.

I have a cometic gasket, largest we could get. I will run 93oct all the time. I have to search for a good place to purchase totoluine to up the oct. I dont plan on running 10psi. I will blow off a good amount of that psi. This will all be a test. It may be so sick that i will leave it as is.....HAHAHAHA:D

Really, this will be a few months process. It has been 2 months since i even sat in the dam thing. I would love to woop some people before it blow it up. I will see how the UNICHIP does with adjusting fuel. If it does a good job down at 3-4 then I will bump up to 5-8 or so, using the waste gate as my controler.
If i need to add the boost a pump i will. But i need to get this S/C paid before i start going crazy again!

I myself, if I was on the cutting edge of boosting the 6.1 as you are, would invest in a good 8 channel EGT indicator rather than a A/F meter. The A/F meter is just a averaging device where if a cylinder goes lean at high boost it won't indicate a impending problem. EGT's will.


Jeff

Congrats man . Looking forward to see the dyno results . Goodluck

I myself, if I was on the cutting edge of boosting the 6.1 as you are, would invest in a good 8 channel EGT indicator rather than a A/F meter. The A/F meter is just a averaging device where if a cylinder goes lean at high boost it won't indicate a impending problem. EGT's will.


Jeff

I have always wanted to get a EGT gauge. Can you link this 8 channel EGT gauge please?

EDIT: How bout this one: http://www.altronicsinc.com/pages/redalert.html
Very informative thread: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=529496

I ran EGT's in a couple of my race cars with great results but with the awesome air/fuel sensor's that are out now thats all thats needed. This isn't top fuel trying to get every cylinder to run even aspecially with a production car.
Torco Accelerator is all thats needed to help with octane problems in this truck. Chris you need to buy a small barrel or case.

I have always wanted to get a EGT gauge. Can you link this 8 channel EGT gauge please?

EDIT: How bout this one: http://www.altronicsinc.com/pages/redalert.html
Very informative thread: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=529496

I myself, if I was on the cutting edge of boosting the 6.1 as you are, would invest in a good 8 channel EGT indicator rather than a A/F meter. The A/F meter is just a averaging device where if a cylinder goes lean at high boost it won't indicate a impending problem. EGT's will.


Jeff

Wow Jeff,
I did not even know something like that existed.
FAST....it seems like something we should look into. I can melt a piston as easy as you can.
Bill

I ran EGT's in a couple of my race cars with great results but with the awesome air/fuel sensor's that are out now thats all thats needed. This isn't top fuel trying to get every cylinder to run even aspecially with a production car.
Torco Accelerator is all thats needed to help with octane problems in this truck. Chris you need to buy a small barrel or case.

+1 on the Torco. Good stuff.

+1 on the Torco. Good stuff.


OK, were can i get this stuff locally?

As far as the EGT gauges, the 8 way, the only one i found was almost 1k.

I think for me this might be a bit overkill. A good wideband should work maybe even two, right and left bank.

www.torco.com

Just order a case of it to have on hand.

OK, were can i get this stuff locally?

As far as the EGT gauges, the 8 way, the only one i found was almost 1k.

I think for me this might be a bit overkill. A good wideband should work maybe even two, right and left bank.

Getting two decent widebands will put you at just about $800. A combination of 4 cylinders on a wideband will not pinpoint a lean cylinder thats about to melt. For instance: you can have one piston at 1650F and the other three at 1540F. Thats an average heat of 1568F. That does not set off any alarms on that bank, but sure enough the piston at 1650F is prob going to melt, break a piston land, and trash your motor.

If you read the thread I provided above, you can see that the some years of WRX are having piston failure on #4, us Ford modular guys are having failures with piston #8. This is due to high ET's. Keep in mind that is after having a dialed in "safe" AF.

I have asked many people about monitoring EGT's, and they always say its not necessary, that AF is plenty, this is not a Dragster etc etc, with that said, motors are still failing. So I have reached my personal educated conclusion that I will now monitor EGT at each cylinder, and work around a cooling solution on #8, in my case.

From the results of the above thread you will also see that freeing up exhaust really helps reduce EGT's. Who knows, I might have the pleasant surprise to find out that my EGT's are fine across the board due to my particular combination of mods. But I sure wouldn't want to find out the hard way if im not!!!

BUT these Hemi motors might not have any history of having a "common failure" on a particular piston(s) that usually points to the same piston(s) when these motors fail. But if you grab information on say 100 motors that have failed, and the common denominator of that failure on those motors is say cylinder #6, I would seriously think about using an EGT gauge.

Either way, monitoring each individual cylinders ET can only do good, its a far better way to keep your engine in check over the "broad" AF method..

Or you could do the old style method, go WOT and turn off the motor, take out the plugs and read them.... ill pass on that method!!

I would like to hear your opinion on this subject Gotstroke.

The STR8 under N/A conditions is not really what im geared at, im gearing the importance of EGT's on higher boost applications.

In the beginning i will not be pushing the crap out of the motor. As i do start to reach the limits of the bottom end I will start closley monitoring these things. And this 8 EGT setup looks good. At this time my steps will be...


test the stock kits A/F
run for some time left alone
check compression and plugs
up the boost and add alcohol
Dyno test again
make any fuel adjustments for added boost i.e. boostapump FPR etc.
If i feel the A/F is in a safe enough range to push for a few months i will
If not back down on the boost a bit and start to monitor each cyl.
After all cyl's are hooked up with egt's start pushing again.


BLOWN7 do you have a good connection for any of these fuel and egt products?

I have used this one in the past it's good.
http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_10001_10002_758148_-1_10625

However now I am a dealer for aircraft indicating systems and I have this one in the CJ, (and in my Cessna 182) it's aircraft certified so it's more expensive but it gives me real time with lights and buzzer and the ability to read real time graphing and data
http://buy-ei.com/UBG-16_Bar_Graph_Engine_Analzyer.htm
I can sell this one for $1200 and change.


As AWD said and again I reiterate you just gotta keep a eagle eye on the individual cylinder EGT's.

Take for instance my 6-71, the front cylinders will run leaner than the back four just because of the design of the Roots (and where my injectors are placed) and where it delivers the high pressure air first.

Now as I understand it the manifold on the 6.1 has a condition by its very design causes the front cylinders to go lean with auxiliary injectors. I myself have not seen the inside to know for certain what is going on.......just what I read.
My understanding of your system is you will just be using the original injectors? And a dry manifold?

Jeff

On a side note, if the engine is run lean below 65 percent power you won't hurt it at all, no way no how. It's the 65 percent and above that if the engines does start going lean will blowtorch the inside.


Jeff

However now I am a dealer for aircraft indicating systems and I have this one in the CJ, (and in my Cessna 182) it's aircraft certified so it's more expensive but it gives me real time with lights and buzzer and the ability to read real time graphing and data
http://buy-ei.com/UBG-16_Bar_Graph_Engine_Analzyer.htm
I can sell this one for $1200 and change. Jeff

It can do a max of 7 cylinders right? Using the last temp bar as an EGT. I like it. If it can do eight I might have to pick one up. Well I can always keep the most commonly colder cylinder out of the loop.

I love the extra bells and whistles, especially with something that important.

.

Now as I understand it the manifold on the 6.1 has a condition by its very design causes the front cylinders to go lean with auxiliary injectors. I myself have not seen the inside to know for certain what is going on.......just what I read.
My understanding of your system is you will just be using the original injectors? And a dry manifold?

Jeff

You are 100% correct. If i have the chance while i am putting the TB spacer on I will take some photos of why there is a problem. With this kit you replace all injectors with larger ones, Not sure what their flow is. But i think they are ford, blue units. They are a bit taller than stock so supplied spacers are used to raise the fuel rail. With the GS kit using the AUX injector there has been problems because of this intake design you speak of. The ASM kit on the other hand should not have any problems what so ever. 8 Larger injectors, Piggy back PCM, boost dependent MAP sensor on the piggy back.

It can do a max of 7 cylinders right? Using the last temp bar as an EGT. I like it. If it can do eight I might have to pick one up. Well I can always keep the most commonly colder cylinder out of the loop.

I love the extra bells and whistles, especially with something that important.

No you can input 16 channels. In the CJ I use 4 EGT and four CHT (cylinder head temperature )channels for the engine. This way I can have a temperature warning for each bank being the highest and can graph each side agaist the other. Then I use 7 more channels for OAT, Oil Temp engine, Oil temp tranny, oil temp tranny cooler, coolant temp engine, coolant temp radiator and power steering fluid temp. I still haven't figured out what more temps I need with the extra channel :confused:

Jeff

No you can input 16 channels. In the CJ I use 4 EGT and four CHT (cylinder head temperature )channels for the engine. This way I can have a temperature warning for each bank being the highest and can graph each side agaist the other. Then I use 7 more channels for OAT, Oil Temp engine, Oil temp tranny, oil temp tranny cooler, coolant temp engine, coolant temp radiator and power steering fluid temp. I still haven't figured out what more temps I need with the extra channel :confused:

Jeff


You could always monitor YOUR temp, will help prevent roadrage!!!

Thats a lot of readings. Did you install a LCD to watch all these real time?

You could always monitor YOUR temp, will help prevent roadrage!!!

Thats a lot of readings. Did you install a LCD to watch all these real time?

The UBG-16 will give you all the readings real time by graph or digital readout. Just by pushing a button. Or at a later date download via a 232 port, sit at your table have your favorite drink and review the data.


Jeff

Hey! Enough with ALL the chit-chat... When are you going to lay down some Rubber???:D

T-Time

Hey! Enough with ALL the chit-chat... When are you going to lay down some Rubber???:D

T-Time


Mid week... Fingers crossed!!!

No you can input 16 channels. In the CJ I use 4 EGT and four CHT (cylinder head temperature )channels for the engine. This way I can have a temperature warning for each bank being the highest and can graph each side agaist the other. Then I use 7 more channels for OAT, Oil Temp engine, Oil temp tranny, oil temp tranny cooler, coolant temp engine, coolant temp radiator and power steering fluid temp. I still haven't figured out what more temps I need with the extra channel :confused:

Jeff

I likey... hehe, you sound as crazy as me. I have 9 gauges so far!!!

motor water temp
intercooler inlet water temp
intercooler outlet water temp
tranny temp
motor oil temp
boost
oil pressure
A/F
volts

And all in hands reach I have controllers and toggle switches to control a few gaggets like

meth controller
KB BP
off/on switch for meth
off/on switch for aux rad fan
off/on switch for alternator :eek:
off/on switch for electric water pump
off/on switch for electric water pump for intercooler
off/on switch for rear H/E fan for SC

All my friends say you need a pilots license to drive it... lol

Incase your wondering why so many off/on switches. Well I can have the motor turned off and cool ALL my liquids at once, or cool only what needs cooling individually.

Hmmm... now I can use these 16 channels to monitor eight EGT's and eight CHT's. Exciting!!!

Well after two months of craziness the Jeep is ready to be turned over tomorrow. They will fire her up and inspect everything. Then on Friday we will hit the dyno. I am not expecting great #'s since it's 90 here and 90% humidity. YUCK!! So i am hoping i at least clear 450HP. Praying for 500. Video and Photos to come soon.

I know you been real anxious but so have we. nice work can't wait to see them pics and see some numbers.

Well after two months of craziness the Jeep is ready to be turned over tomorrow. They will fire her up and inspect everything. Then on Friday we will hit the dyno. I am not expecting great #'s since it's 90 here and 90% humidity. YUCK!! So i am hoping i at least clear 450HP. Praying for 500. Video and Photos to come soon.

Awesome fast. Very excited to see how it all turns out. Don't worry, it will all be worth it ;)

Well after two months of craziness the Jeep is ready to be turned over tomorrow. They will fire her up and inspect everything. Then on Friday we will hit the dyno. I am not expecting great #'s since it's 90 here and 90% humidity. YUCK!! So i am hoping i at least clear 450HP. Praying for 500. Video and Photos to come soon.

Happy for ya, Chris. It's been a long time coming, huh? Hope all goes well and as anticipated. Should be a beast.

I'm in town for a while, and if you need a lift, or help with anything, pm me. Sleep well tonight. :D

I likey... hehe, you sound as crazy as me. I have 9 gauges so far!!!

motor water temp
intercooler inlet water temp
intercooler outlet water temp
tranny temp
motor oil temp
boost
oil pressure
A/F
volts

And all in hands reach I have controllers and toggle switches to control a few gaggets like

meth controller
KB BP
off/on switch for meth
off/on switch for aux rad fan
off/on switch for alternator :eek:
off/on switch for electric water pump
off/on switch for electric water pump for intercooler
off/on switch for rear H/E fan for SC

All my friends say you need a pilots license to drive it... lol

Incase your wondering why so many off/on switches. Well I can have the motor turned off and cool ALL my liquids at once, or cool only what needs cooling individually.

Hmmm... now I can use these 16 channels to monitor eight EGT's and eight CHT's. Exciting!!!
I only have 4 gauges:

1. Boost gauge
2. Pyrometer/EGT gauge
3. Bottle Pressure(nitrous)
4. Air/Fuel gauge(wideband)

Now I am going to have to go out and buy some more gauges to keep up, lol.

So what happened? Does it work? Does it run?

Awesome Chris, best of luck!