Has anyone run up against one of these from a dig? what was the outcome? I have a couple buddies who have one each and would be curious to know how the GC would stand.

Has anyone run up against one of these from a dig? what was the outcome? I have a couple buddies who have one each and would be curious to know how the GC would stand.

Since they are low on TQ and have no boost out of the hole your chance are very good. Depending on their mods you could hold them! Gorilla will weigh in...

I thought there was a lengthy thread about this?

yea i raced a new sti out of the hole and got him pretty good

Easy Kill...Even if they are game and they want to race the warranty issues with their clutches is always in the back of their minds so they never launch hard which means you will have the jump and with a six speed car once they are behind...they will short shift and sometimes even miss gears...Stock is easy work...I raced a guy who dynod after me with an EVO and put down 426hp on the Dynojet Dyno!!! I holeshot him and he claims he missed a shift but in short I kicked his ass and cut off at 80 with him 4 cars back but on the highway he killed me to 140 from 80 by 8-10 cars!!! I reiterate...light to light take his money...on the highway if you see shiny exhaust and you are stock...they will get you!!!
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I have raced both the STI and EVO Both Stock with no mods And destroid them both.

Do a search. But ill sum it up:

WRX: Destroyed unless modded w/ big turbo, intercooler, and tune
Stock STI and EVO: Nose out with a good agressive driver. Wimpy bad driver, you will destroy.

Modded Sti: Nose to nose untill higher speeds. (unless big turbo: then your screwed)
Modded Evo: These are so damn easy to make lotsa horsepower. Simple, cheap mods get these cars deep into the 12's. Keep an eye on them.


BTW: The clutch is not the worry for either the suby or the evo. STi's have a really good drivetrain, and usually can beat the $hit out of it untill 400+whp. Evo's on the other hand, have had an issue w/ breaking the 2nd gear on modded evos, similar situation w/ regular WRX's. Usually, if the driver of a STI knows whats up, he will not hesitate to do a 4k rpm launch.

i take my friends lightly modded evo9 (iirc cai and full or near full exhaust) but hes not tuned. apparantly modded evo 9s (dont know about 8s) have a really aggressive pcm that will pull timing with mods unless they're tuned.

in addition to what gorilla wrx said, STIs and EVOs aren't much better than we are on the top end but go from a dig as most owners aren't going to dump the clutch at 4k to beat a jeep. :)

My 2004 WRX was dynoed at 320 whp. I had a piggyback computer from TurboXS, it had a feature called "launch control" that would allow you to build boost (around 11 lbs) at a stop. Very similar to a stutterbox on the DSM Talon's and Eclipses. Using this, I was cutting low 1.7 60's at the track. I think that particular setup would have given my truck a good race from a dig. However, I ended up disconnecting the launch control because it literally ripped my car to pieces (clutch, transmission, etc).

I raced a modded evo from a light. He just floored the thing and it kept bouncing on and off the rev limiter, then he dropped the clutch. I didn't do any pre-launch revving. He took an early 2 car length lead and I kept up no problem but the race was lost. He claimed to only have intake and exhaust mods, but that thing was fast!

I raced a modded evo from a light. He just floored the thing and it kept bouncing on and off the rev limiter, then he dropped the clutch.

Yeah, that guy's drivetrain isn't going to last long.

Yeah, that guy's drivetrain isn't going to last long.

.... but Houston, sweet victory and a trail of broken parts will be his to savour. As he pushes his ride down the road he can wax rhapsodic how he thumped a Jeep and his compatriots will look askance and wonder as to the wisdom of dispatching but a lowly Jeep - at what cost I ask you, at what cost?;)

.... but Houston, sweet victory and a trail of broken parts will be his to savour. As he pushes his ride down the road he can wax rhapsodic how he thumped a Jeep and his compatriots will look askance and wonder as to the wisdom of dispatching but a lowly Jeep - at what cost I ask you, at what cost?;)
Hahahahahahaha

So I'm walking down the street today and see this on an Evo.....

Not bothersome. Unless it's on his front grill reading RELLIK8V in my rear view mirror I would not see it.:D

OK, I need to jump in on this....

A stock Evo and stock STi can both run low 13's to 12.9 on a very good day, with a very good driver. Chances are you will not pull up to one of these.

An Evo with minimal mods will gowell into the 12's, sometimes 11's. If you're running an Evo that has an exhaust or any othermods, pray that he's a non driver. If you're racing one, and it pulls ahead, it will just keep pulling. Evos have weak clutches, and weak transfer cases. Also, a lot of times they don't want to go into gear at high rpm. I have a modded Evo (GT35R, built motor, caged, twin disc). Broken my fair share of parts on it.

An STi with the same mods, you'll have a better chance against. They are harder to make fast. The drivetrain in the STi is real nice. Clutches do eventually let go, but people usually don't have problems with gears and transfer cases. I sold my 494whp STi for the GCSRT8. Stock motor, stock transmission/transfer case. Never broke anything other than the stock clutch.

Both the Evo and STi don't have a lot of torque when compared to the GCSRT8, but it's also more than 1000lbs lighter, and they're stick. Dump the clutch at 5400rpm in either car and you will pull 1.7x 60 foots all day long. Stock turbo'd Evos and STi's have full boost before 3500 rpm.

I drive an '05 EVO MR. It is a decent car to drag with if you have a nice heavy duty clutch and a mod or two, but the EVO is really a auto x and rally car, and is great to take to a track where it will truly shine in road racing (not street racing, though it will does pretty well too). I love the SRT8s and have thought long and hard about replacing my Evo with one, but the Japanese have built an amazing quality into these which is the feedback you get when you drive it. I think in '09 I will take the plunge. :) Is the feedback really good on the SRT8?

An Evo with minimal mods will gowell into the 12's, sometimes 11's. If you're running an Evo that has an exhaust or any othermods, pray that he's a non driver. If you're racing one, and it pulls ahead, it will just keep pulling. Evos have weak clutches, and weak transfer cases. Also, a lot of times they don't want to go into gear at high rpm. I have a modded Evo (GT35R, built motor, caged, twin disc). Broken my fair share of parts on it.

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My experience has been that without a tune mods on an evo 9 are useless. Minimal mods to 11s is a stretch afaik. I think you need complete exhaust, cams, heads, cai, tune, and a race gas map to do that. Correct me if im wrong, this is what has been related to me by my friend who seems to know what hes talking about.

My experience has been that without a tune mods on an evo 9 are useless. Minimal mods to 11s is a stretch afaik. I think you need complete exhaust, cams, heads, cai, tune, and a race gas map to do that. Correct me if im wrong, this is what has been related to me by my friend who seems to know what hes talking about.

Turbo back exhaust, 272cams, intake and a flash will put an Evo in the 11's, in the low 11Xmph range. Thats about $2k worth of mods, which isn't much in the world of modding. Head work isn't necessary to bust 11's. 10's, maybe. There are lots of vendors for Evo parts, so pricing isn't always too bad.

My wifes cousin, ran 11's on stock turbo in an evo 8. It had turboback, 272's, and a tune done by him. Its doeable, but only w/ a great tune.

My wifes cousin, ran 11's on stock turbo in an evo 8. It had turboback, 272's, and a tune done by him. Its doeable, but only w/ a great tune.

I raced this STI about 3 weeks ago:

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z115/aficachi/WRX.jpg

I took a pic of this right after we raced. It was a dig race but in the rain, well sprinkling but on the WET street. I took about a bus size on him to about 85ish and he wasn't catching me and I let off, I was still pulling. But I think a MAJOR contributor to my win was that my 4x4 system out smarted his. I'm sure all his four wheels were spinning, I can't get my 4x4 system to spin wheels for the life of me. It will shift up to 100% of the torque to the front is needed so it constantly has traction.

The guy was way cool. HUGE thumbs up from him. Does anyone know what kind of STI that is? It had a bigger hood scoop than normal and it had a sticker on the side that said I think "Sport.... something", I wish I would have got a side picture of it. But I think there is an upgraded STI version that comes like that from factory.

In a dig from on a dry surface its a toss up, you never know what those cars can have. Definetly SICK rides.

i have a stock turbo evo 8 and i pull consistent high 11s and low 12s when its really hot out. its my daily driver, but i am now really considering trading it in for a GC SRT8. i am missing the luxuries. i have no power seats or cruise control. the car is fast just a little too raw.

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Wow, alot of misinformation here. First of all there is a big difference between a Evo VIII and a Evo IX. The older VIII's would be an even match with a good driver. The IX's can and have gone high 12's at over 105mph stock with good drivers.

Only takes a TBE, MBC, and a aggressive tune to run 11's in a IX. Thats about $1k.

Also Evo drivetrain parts aren't that weak unless you are a bad driver. I've got 100+passes on my car and was running 11.3's@120mph with the stock turbo and now have a 35R and running 11.0's at 130mph and still working on the tune. All this with the stock bottom end, stock t-case, stock tranny, stock axles, and daily driven.

LOL...anyone want to line them up and settle this the easy way? LOL

LOL.....digging up a 4 month old thread to defend your car

^for real. I dont think he said anything that wasnt said already...what a waste, no one is knocking it, just pointing out positives and negatives.

LOL.....digging up a 4 month old thread to defend your car

Didn't even look at the date. Some troll from over here posted the thread on a WRX forum.

I am sure there are people on every forum who scout around and look for someone to make mention of the type of car they own and then go and post it on their home forum. I doubt there are many here that don't appreciate the EVO's - they are what they are. Very fast. and everyone here likes fast.

Wow, alot of misinformation here. First of all there is a big difference between a Evo VIII and a Evo IX. The older VIII's would be an even match with a good driver. The IX's can and have gone high 12's at over 105mph stock with good drivers.
we've gone high 12s stock too, not the norm but it isn't with the 9s either

I raced a stock sti last friday and actually lost by 4/100ths, but there is a reason for that.

I am at 2300ft elevation with a DA that night more like 3400'. Boosted vehicles don't suffer from high elevation like a Naturally asperated vehicle does, so while I lose 5-6/10ths from the elevation the sti only loses 2-3/10ths.

On top of that this guy new how to launch, he posted a 1.82 60' to my 1.93, put me down a car length out of the hole, but by the time we got to the 1320 mark I was back up to his fender and gaining, his 98mph to my 99mph. I lost that one, but I've posted better times in the past then anything he's run so far, so just the luck of the draw. Hopefully will line up against him this friday and redeem myself. ;)

Didn't even look at the date. Some troll from over here posted the thread on a WRX forum.

If someone did that, then you used the correct word....troll. :cool: