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ramtough15
05-21-2007, 08:58 PM
I received a call today from SRT division asking me to participate in a program regarding the replacement of the Jeep SRT8. This news confirms that the Jeep SRT8 is being replaced with a new vehicle soon. That is all the info I can give at this time. Just though I would share with everyone.

OurZoo
05-21-2007, 09:11 PM
Yep, I also got a phone call around noon today as well. They were requesting the owners of GCSRT8s to go to SRTEDGE.com and take the survey. Was today Daimler Chrysler day? I also got coupons from Dodge and Jeep for several dealers and coupons.

sbkim
05-21-2007, 09:24 PM
Wow... I wonder when the replacement is coming?

hound
05-21-2007, 09:26 PM
I really hope they don't get ride of the GCSRT8. Just a hunch, but perhaps Jeep is discontinuing the GC all together and releasing an all new vehicle in its place. Perhaps the Trailhawk will replace the GC just like the Liberty replaced the Cherokee? This may be a good thing, but I am really looking forward to buying an 09'!

Mango
05-21-2007, 09:51 PM
I just did the survey on the site. I shuddered when I saw "Dodge SRT8" and "Chrysler SRT8" on the options.

If they make a "Durango SRT8" I'm leaving this friggen brand all together, ML63 here I come.

HoustonSRT-8
05-21-2007, 09:56 PM
Yeah, but can you imagine an Aspen SRT-8? Blech!

OurZoo
05-21-2007, 09:57 PM
When I took the survery earlier today and saw Dodge SUV SRT8 and Chrysler SUV SRT8 I was like WTF?

ResumeSpeed
05-21-2007, 10:34 PM
I received a call today from SRT division asking me to participate in a program regarding the replacement of the Jeep SRT8. This news confirms that the Jeep SRT8 is being replaced with a new vehicle soon. That is all the info I can give at this time. Just though I would share with everyone.
The first "official" confirmation of plans for a next generation Jeep SRT8 was made over a month ago. It was the main discussion topic of April's online SRT chat session. As far as coming "soon", it won't be, production is still several years away. Lots of good ideas were suggested, some of which will appear on the all-new Grand Cherokee SRT8 model.

ResumeSpeed
05-21-2007, 10:38 PM
Yeah, but can you imagine an Aspen SRT-8? Blech!
Don't worry, ain't gonna happen. The Aspen has only a couple of model years left...

umchemeng
05-21-2007, 10:39 PM
Yeah, but can you imagine an Aspen SRT-8? Blech!

I think the Aspen is going away

hound
05-22-2007, 12:33 AM
The first "official" confirmation of plans for a next generation Jeep SRT8 was made over a month ago. It was the main discussion topic of April's online SRT chat session. As far as coming "soon", it won't be, production is still several years away. Lots of good ideas were suggested, some of which will appear on the all-new Grand Cherokee SRT8 model.


Resume,

When you say "all-new Grand Cherokee" are you meaning the next generation or next model year like 2009?

ResumeSpeed
05-22-2007, 12:48 AM
Resume,

When you say "all-new Grand Cherokee" are you meaning the next generation or next model year like 2009?
Next generation (2011).

Dave
05-22-2007, 01:24 AM
my long winded comments i included with the survey:


SRT will lose a lot of customers if it does away with the Grand Cherokee SRT8. I came from a 5.9l Grand and am fully committed to purchasing another high performance Grand Cherokee if it is made available and provides the excellent performance SRT has come to stand for. Few if any people on the SRT Grand boards are interested in replacing their vehicles with a Dodge or Chrysler (neither the nitro or durango/aspen are particularly attractive vehicles and the durango/aspen doesn;t seen an appropriate starting point for a high performance SUV). If the Grand Cherokee SRT8 is done away with you will likely find your customers in AMG MLs and Cayenne Turbos. Many Grand SRT8 owners are financially able to make such purchases and did not because of the excellent styling and performance the Grand SRT8 provided.
When you do make your next Grand Cherokee SRT8, I recommend dropping in the 6.4l 500+hp engine you have been readying for the Challenger. If it is still possible, I would recommend raiding the Mercedes parts bin for their 7 speed auto (with paddle shifters!). If not, look into a 6 speed option. I believe SRT8 Grand customers would pay up to a $1500 premium for the 7 speed. While few if any SRT8 Grand owners concern themselves much with fuel economy, a highway gear that will allow 20mpg at 75-80mph would be a godsend as would a larger tank that would allow for a 300 mile mixed driving range.
Interior materials need improvement as well though this is probably something SRT has little control over. I would imagine many would pay an additional $1000 for materials befitting an SUV that may crest 50k loaded. While no one expects offroad prowess from a performance SUV (especially with stock tires), it would be nice. Wet and snow performance is extremely important. I recommend a winter driving mode that allows starts in 2nd gear as well as a real LSD. The runflats need to go. They are harsh and seem to account for our often less than stellar braking performance. The Z06 guys get by with a compressor and fix a flat and I imagine we could too if it wasn't possible to engineer space for a full size spare (though I have no problem with an in cabin spare tire ala ZJ and WJ). Better audio would be nice too (what happened to the kicker system?) though it takes backseat to performance and interior fit and finish in my book.
SRT has created a legend with the Grand Cherokee SRT8 and as far as I understand has been able to move every one built. I implore you, do not mess with success. If in two years there is no new SRT Grand I will likely buy something outside of the chryco camp altogether. Keep up the good work and feel free to contact me (------@gmail.com, 775-----) if you would like any further input!
Sincerely,
David
2006 Grand Cherokee SRT8 (black, the fastest)

ResumeSpeed
05-22-2007, 02:13 AM
...SRT will lose a lot of customers if it does away with the Grand Cherokee SRT8...
SRT has never had any intention or plans to "do away with" the Grand Cherokee SRT8. In fact, a second generation was already penciled in before the first ones were even built.

The reason that other vehicles were listed on the survey (Chrysler/Dodge) is that there are a lot of SRT customers out there who have bought more than one brand of SRT vehicle. There have also been quite a few who have switched from one model or another, and others who may want to try something different after a couple of years.

Dave
05-22-2007, 02:18 AM
SRT has never had any intention or plans to "do away with" the Grand Cherokee SRT8. In fact, a second generation was already penciled in before the first ones were even built.

The reason that other vehicles were listed on the survey (Chrysler/Dodge) is that there are a lot of SRT customers out there who have bought more than one brand of SRT vehicle. There have also been quite a few who have switched from one model or another, and others who may want to try something different after a couple of years.

I certainly hope you're correct but the wording of the survey and the engineer chat session on this topic leads me to believe they're exploring replacing the Grand SRT8 with something else. With the coming fuel economy standards I have a hard time believing chrysler would have more than one high performance SUV for sale at a time.

Do you have a source or is it a confidential thing?

ndm
05-22-2007, 05:40 AM
I left some notes too...

Run flats should be replaced with other tires, dealer support is currently very disappointing, TSB issues should be addressed faster with better customer satisfaction in mind. Don't forget that we want to modify these vehicles so release the info, Rear differential sound is very annoying, Red Brembos, brake dust is driving me crazy. Don't forget about existing owners and their issues.

I am very disappointed with the driving range, a bigger gas tank would be very nice. Also make sure that if it is a 25 gallon tank, the gas gauge reflects that. I'm tired of getting the gas light, only to put 17 gallons in a 20 gallon tank. I would rather not have to guess when its really empty. I once drove in excess of 40 miles yet still only pumped 18 gallons.

multi-displacement system (MDS) with a manual mode would save us a lot of gas when we need it and also help with owner satisfaction. Hopefully the system can be installed on previous years(06-07). I would absolutely buy this.

Wheels are great but tires need to protect the wheels better.

interior could be a bit more plush.


The most important.....
Don't forget about the customer. I expected much better service and support for my hard earned dollars. I am disheartened by the service I have received thus far. I expected much better for my money. I hate going to the dealer. Each dealer should have a trained SRT tech on hand.

Oh and don't forget that we buy these things to be able to upgrade! I hate being beat by a Trailblazer just because his is easily upgradeable with aftermarket parts.

kramsay1234
05-22-2007, 06:07 AM
I guess they don't bother witht these survey's for Canadians. I have seen nothing.

BuilderBill
05-22-2007, 06:51 AM
I guess they don't bother witht these survey's for Canadians. I have seen nothing.
Don't feel bad....they obviously don't bother with contractors either!!
Bill

HoustonSRT-8
05-22-2007, 07:48 AM
My suggestion......8-way power passenger seat. That damn seat sits to frickin' high.

Blown-WK
05-22-2007, 07:58 AM
Thats a great response you had Dave. Pretty much hit every key point and important aspect of what a GCSRT8 should be.

Mango
05-22-2007, 09:25 AM
I HOPE they never put MDS in the vehicle, it's a serious detrement to performance.

I HOPE they never replace the runflats, since it's VERY costly to replace a damaged rim.

Red brembo's will show the brake dust FAR worse than the black ones, which do a great job of hiding it.

I've discovered this when comparing my GTI which has red TSW calipers and pads, to the Jeep.

awdrocks
05-22-2007, 10:02 AM
The way I see things guys/gals.

If they do replace the STR8 or through it out completely, don't worry. You guys will be proud owners of an insane SUV. It will make your SUV rarer and even more desirable. You guys have an AWESOME platform. Crap you guys are running mid-12's on very few mods. Just keep modding the crap out of your rigs and you will blow anything away any factory will ever come out with.

I have an 02' Explorer and I can care less what new Explorers come out with. Mine is unique. Even if Saleen finally did make a 2010 Explorer im not worried. I know ill run circles around it. I look at it like this, I have a muscle car but in an SUV, just how you would keep and collect and old Mustang, Camaro, Mopar car, im keeping my Explorer forever. To the extent I am modding my X I can drop any motor or setup in my Engine bay and know my SUV will handle the power.

Its not like your STR8's are old rachity cars that need better design or styling from factory.

If your not a heavy modder and are just content with what the factory gives you, then I guess it would be nice to have a new STR8 every few years to keep up with the traffic. But someone like me, or a few I see in this forum that are going balls to the wall... What a pain to redue everything and start from a much slower and weaker NEW model and spend a lot of money again.

Like my situation for example: I'm VERY pleased with my X's styling, comfort, and options it has. I could not desire more, the things I don't like, I mod and make to my standards, im happy so why change it!!! If it ain't broke... don't ____ !!! I feel very lucky though because I have a third row seat, great towing capability's and 4x4 Low/High/Auto and 2wd. The new X's I think don't even have low 4x4, they are now true awd's. So there is very little the factory will be able to offer me in a new model that I don't already have.

I don't know. Thats just how I feel.

Again, unless a 3rd row seat comes out and you NEED it (ive used mine 2 times in almost 6 years). Your 2wd mode, rear LSD's etc all can be modded.

gafettaia
05-22-2007, 10:31 AM
The main reason I went to the Jeep was because it was owned by Daimler AG. Since Daimler just bailed out of Chrysler I will venture into another all wheel drive option which could be AUDI??? The 12 mpg will really get old when Premium reaches $4.00 / gallon.
For now I am happy with the SRT8. We will just have to wait and see.
I still believe that every manufacturer has to have a high performance option in their line up. Mercedes AMG. BMW 'M'. AUDI 'S'. Chevy 'SS', etc.
Look at Ford since they dumped the SVT options, they are really scrambling.

awdrocks
05-22-2007, 10:40 AM
Look at Ford since they dumped the SVT options, they are really scrambling.

Yeah Fords been flaking, especially with the tease they did with the Adrenalin. That's why I just decided to build my own... im pretty branded to Ford's styling, thats why I went Ford.

You know the Explorer finally lost the title for the best selling SUV, to a Honda I think, what can you expect from these gas prices!!!

I can't live without power though... my wife is due for a new car, so ill save the gas there :D.

HoustonSRT-8
05-22-2007, 11:25 AM
I can't live without power though... my wife is due for a new car, so ill save the gas there :D.

Me either. That's why I had the wife get the SRT-8. :D

ndm
05-22-2007, 12:11 PM
I HOPE they never put MDS in the vehicle, it's a serious detrement to performance.

I HOPE they never replace the runflats, since it's VERY costly to replace a damaged rim.

Red brembo's will show the brake dust FAR worse than the black ones, which do a great job of hiding it.

I've discovered this when comparing my GTI which has red TSW calipers and pads, to the Jeep.

Thats why I said that I would like MDS with manual mode(disable it or enable it when you wanted it to)I think the MDS idea is a good one....it would be like having a gas savings button....Plus they can brag in the ads about having the better gas mileage.

I think the runflats could be replaced with a different tire with different rim protector features. like the rim protector sidewalls on I believe the continentals and Michellins. In my opinion the stiff ride of the runflats might cause more damage than they prevent. I realize that the runflats are exellent when you actually get a flat but the damage that I have experienced is little dings at the edge of the wheel. I cant even figure out where they came from. I am the only driver, and have NEVER hit a curb or anything else...I dont do manual car washes so what the hell?

They do have their benefits but I believe they can be substituted with exellent results.

Upon thinking about it, you are right about the red brembos. But if they fixed the dust problem, we wouldnt have to worry about it..

Dont get me wrong, I absolutely love my Jeep... But I can still think of ways to improve upon what I think is the best average Joe vehicle out there. I am still in a daze every time I start her up or just look at her. I still feel blessed just to have gotten it.

But I would love to contribute to the happiness of the next guy like me.

JeepSRT
05-22-2007, 12:55 PM
I got the same call yesterday and misunderstood what he said and asked are you getting rid of the srt8 Jeep. He said no they are just getting input for a replacement from current owners. So I don't think they are discontinuing it. As for the Dodge I think they will make a SRT Nitro not Durango.

ResumeSpeed
05-22-2007, 02:31 PM
I certainly hope you're correct but the wording of the survey and the engineer chat session on this topic leads me to believe they're exploring replacing the Grand SRT8 with something else. With the coming fuel economy standards I have a hard time believing chrysler would have more than one high performance SUV for sale at a time.

Do you have a source or is it a confidential thing?
People are reading it ("replacement") wrong, they are/were looking for ideas for the Grand Cherokee replacement, meaning the next generation of the Grand Cherokee and NOT a different SRT vehicle to replace the Grand Cherokee. In upcoming sessions and surveys they will be discussing with LX owners (300C/Charger/Magnum) features/options ideas for the next generation of those SRT vehicles.

As far as upcoming fuel standards go, the SRT vehicles are produced in such limited numbers that they have a very negligible effect in the overall averages of all vehicles sold.

Rick G
05-22-2007, 05:59 PM
I hope they stop making the Jeep SRT8, it will make ours even more rare. :cool:

EX-SVTMAN
05-22-2007, 07:38 PM
I hope they stop making the Jeep SRT8, it will make ours even more rare. :cool:

Uh Rick,
Nothing lasts forever and you may want to replace that SRT8 with another one in 4 or 5 0r 10yrs whatever....It would be nice to have a great new Jeep to replace our beasts.... just my 2cents.