So i have a crapload of Gloss-it products in front of me and don't know where to start.....on the polishing atleast

My Jeep is 08...been waxed TWICE in two years...oops....it's Silver and very forgiving...and i live in the desert so it gets dusty fairly quickly but i want the paint to be perfect...i don't have any major scratches or swirls from what i observed as i always wash with care...so not sure if i need an extreme cut or just evolution cut....it's really not bad to start and it's not dark colored

I know how to wash and claybar it.....and i forgot the alcohol/water mix for in between steps after that though

I have:
Extreme cut
Evolution cut
Evolution polish
One step machine gloss
Concorso gloss
Gloss finish

7424xp polisher....should i trade for cyclo polisher?
Green pad
Blue pad
Yellow pad
White pad
Grey lambswool pad

I'm ordering a few things tomorrow....EVP pad prime, 2 wash mitts, and another clay bar...have to call the owner and ask when he's releasing the all purpose cleaner as i don't see it for sale and my engine bay needs love..unless u guys recommend a good store bought APC?....should i get anything else? Interior products?

Harry, Wade, Tony or anybody with Gloss-it experience PLEASE show me the way...in details so anybody can refer back to this thread
:D

Subscribed!! I gots to know!! I want to start doing a better job of detailing my rig and need a "basic primer" or "how to". What would the best equipment be for someone on a budget? TIA!!!

i LOVE the detail spray

Post saved for HARRY, WADE, and TONY write up! :D

would love a claybar write up!

If you get a bunch of new product and pads do a test bed. Wash and clay bar the hood, then use painters tape to divide into 3 or 4 boxes. Start with light grit and soft pad. Then look at your results. If you get most of the scratches out, then step up to firmer pad, if the scratches didn't budge try a more aggressive grit. Keep going "more" until you find the combo that works best AND is the LEAST abrasive.

Keep in mind the hood/roof can be different from fenders & doors. Maybe there's oxidation on the top surfaces and just light swirl marks on the side surfaces. That means you're going to need two different combos of rubbing compound and pad. Don't assume that you can use firm pad and same compound for the whole rig.

I've seen so many people set out to get rid of fine scratches or spider webs and then they go crazy with wet sanding they put a cloudy haze or tons of fine scratches into the clear coat. Then it becomes an endless cycle to undo the damage. Watch out too for accident damage since the quality of paint varies drastically. You guys with aftermarket hoods, the clear coat might be softer then elsewhere on the rig.

Youngmedic, if you're in "Antelope" you're only 2 hours away from me in Morgan Hill. Want to come to my house? I can help you and we can swap some of my Chemical Brother's line. I'm not sure where "Antelope Valley" is in relation to "Antelope".

It goes like this.... Wash jeep with something like Dawn to take off the wax, clay bar, Extreme Cut, 50/50 mix, Evolution Cut, 50/50 mix, Evolution Polish, 50/50 mix, Gloss Activator, Gloss Finish, then the Concorso if you want.

This is a nice instructional video of the process.

http://www.blip.tv/file/1570393

and this is a nice chart to use as to what step you should start with.

http://www.glossitonline.com/docs/GlossitChart_Cyclo.pdf

The biggest thing is to take your time. You're not going to get it done in one day.

Depending on how deep the scratches are you may have to do multiple passes of the extreme cut.

Good luck, I hope this helps

Like Tony said..... although I've never used the Gloss Activator. The pad prime rocks but you need to use SO VERY VERY LITTLE!! A LOT goes a looong way. You only use it with the Extreme Cut, Evol. Cut, and the Polish. NOT FOR USE WITH WAXES!! It's purpose mainly lets you use the product longer. Make sure you clay it good. You should never feel ANY grit in the clear. It should feel like glass.

I usually do half a hood at a time and one panel at a time. Meaning, I do a whole front 1/4 panel, then I'll do the top part of the door and bottom seperate. The back quarter panels I'll do up to the roof and down to the bottom above the bumper cover. I work in criss cross patterns. Side to side then up to down.

Their products are pretty easy to use. With my Cyclo, I need to use very little pressure. Maybe 5-10lbs. worth. Only problem with doing it my way is, the Cyclo has a larger working area b/c of the dual heads. I've never used a PC polisher. Wade would answer that better than I could.

Get ready to devote a whole weekend to doing all 5 steps to do it right. Don't rush it. Taaaaake your time and it will come out absolutely flawless. Some good 100watt halogen lights will show you all the imperfections you can't see in the Silver color. Silver hides them pretty good but, under the light, nothing is hidden. Black shows them ALL!! Tape off all the rubber for your first time for sure. Painters tape works great. I used some 1.5" and 3" IIRC.

With the waxes..... give it an hour or two inbetween the Gloss Finish and the Concorso. Also, let the Concorso stay on for a bit too. Work the Concorso in until it disappears on the paint. USE VERY LITTLE!!!!!!!! It takes such a small amount of this stuff it's sick! Let it dry for a good bit too. If you run your knuckle over it and it smears, it's not dry yet. I can honestly say, I've never used any wax like that stuff. That little bottle is enough to last you probably for 2-3 years. It's crazy.

How many sets of pads do you have of each color? With the Orange and Extreme cut, you should have 3-4 sets. I use a set per side and a set for the hood and rear. Do hood first. Roof.... I pick what set looks best or I'll clean a set. Same goes for the Yellows and the Evol Cut. Same goes for the Green's with the Polish. The Waxes, you can use one set of Blue's or White's for the Gloss Finish and White's for the Concorso. If you notice them getting dirty, switch to another set. I've been pretty successfull using one set for the waxes though. The cutting pads will get NASTY! They will hold crap in the pad. That's why it's a good idea to change them out.

When doing your cuttings..... if the product is drying out pretty quick b/c of temps, throw a little mist of their QD on there and it'll let you work it a little longer too if you aren't using the Pad Prime.

That's about it for me bro. You got anymore questions.... just hollar.

There are good tips at www.autogeek.net

Oh... I see you got One-Step too..... That's a combo of Evol. Cut and Evol. Polish. You can use that to kill a step. Personally, I don't like the stuff. I've had better luck doing the 2 steps instead of using the One-Step. That's just MY opinion though.

I also see you don't have any Orange Pads. You can use the Yellows with the Extreme also. The Orange are just a little more aggressive in their cutting.

Good luck homey. Should be fun for you and educational for your arm and back muscles.:D You can do it bro. Trust me..... if I of all people can do it, so can you.

Paul, I usually strech it out over a whole weekend.

First day I Wash jeep, clay bar, and Extreme Cut

Second day I use Evolution Cut, Evolution Polish, Gloss Activator, and Gloss Finish

Then the final day I use the Concorso. That way the Gloss finish had plenty of time to set with the Gloss Activator.

This way your are sure to take your time and do it right. Plus your back will thank you for it as well.

Paul,

I see those who know have all chimed in so there's no need for me to repeat! Harrison's write up is bang on.... pretty much what I do sans the multiple pads. I need to get more pads! Thanks for the reminder Harrison!

One last tip.... after all this work, please consider using the double bucket wash method and use a grit guard! I have been starting to do this and it is seriously making my hard work last longer.

Okay, I admit to being a total dweeb when it comes to this stuff. It sounds like most of you have (a) been doing this for a long time, and (b) have done this professionally. Silverbullet, explain the double bucket method to me please? And what's a grit guard? I've always been a very basic "wash n' wax" kind of guy, and don't want to spend an entire weekend on this process. But I want to do more than I am right now. I don't own any polishers other than my trusty "armstrong". Any advice? TIA!

Here is my advise!! Hire someone!!

http://i427.photobucket.com/albums/pp357/ChrisHullJunior666/hectordetail027.jpg

Here is my advise!! Hire someone!!


Where's all his supplies? Just industrial cleaning solution and a towel? lol

Where's all his supplies? Just industrial cleaning solution and a towel? lol

So all I need to supply him with is some Windex and a towel?? LOL!!:D

Actually, I'm starting to think it'd be easier and less time consuming to follow Junior's suggestion to just take the rig to a pro detailer and be done with it.

So all I need to supply him with is some Windex and a towel?? LOL!!:D

Actually, I'm starting to think it'd be easier and less time consuming to follow Junior's suggestion to just take the rig to a pro detailer and be done with it.

Yea but no detailers will spend that much time and effort on your Jeep unless you're spending some SERIOUS money.....like $500-900 depending on amount of work....

Ask Harry he'll tell you how much he will charge to do a FULL paint correction...


Paint correction is waaaaay different than detailing

Gloss it is AWESOME!!! on the phone with Rich the owner right now he's giving me full rundown!

Tell him I said wud up!

Griots Garage Car Wash/ with their Ultimate Car Wash Bucket
Griots Garage HD wheel cleaner
Griots Garage Paint Cleaning Clay
Griots Garage Speed Shine(for use with the clay or just a touch up area when out on the road)
Griots Garage Engine Cleaner and Dressing

After using the below 3m products, I finish with Griots Premium Carnauba Paste Wax by hand.

3m Polishing glaze
3m Rubbing Compound
3m 5717 back up pad
3m 5737 compound pad
3m 5738 polishing pad
Dewalt DW849 elect sand/polisher or the Makita 9227


and for the in between time of wash to wax or if your lazy...Protect All (I promise you all will LOVE this stuff)!!!!!

You realize this thread is almost 2 years old right?:lol:;)

sent mine to Johnnie's for a claybar and waxing....

use correct buffer pad and speed for particular stage of chemical,

comes back smooth and filled. I had some white overspray allover my car. All gone now.

sent mine to Johnnie's for a claybar and waxing....

use correct buffer pad and speed for particular stage of chemical,

comes back smooth and filled. I had some white overspray allover my car. All gone now.

WOWWWWWW george, that is sick!!!! Send me your baby!!!!!!

Great thread! I could use a few days in the garage pampering the beast.

You realize this thread is almost 2 years old right?:lol:;)

Ya I was bored at that time and saw this thread. I was surprised to see that 3M was not mentioned as it should have, so I decided to add some of the best products in the shine industry since it will soon be show n go time. This thread has now been revived!:)

the black box stuff from turtle is nice for maintenance waxings, if you have the fastest color, that is.

You ever gonna run that thing again George?

One day. I checked I haven't been to a track since 10/30/2010. :o

Tried but my lights decided to flicker off and then the vent spout on my race gas was cracked open, which almost caused an "Oh the humanity" moment when I stoped to check the fuse on the lights. :rofl: I was hoping to get set of cog pulleys made up from a set of prototypes that we had, but that was conceived in the Supercharger Continuum, so everything moves at a mere increment of usual time and progress. Just ask Whipple about the "singularity" (star trek was on this morning) that they are working in to develop that 2.9 hemi kit. Two more weeks = 6 months.

I'm in the market for a new polisher. Looks like i'm gonna be buying the Griots 6" Orbital and a bunch of Griots products.
Griots makes awesome products.

I usually get half the hood done and get bored. I have a buddy who does it, never really had a awesome detail job besides on my show truck. Just too time consuming when I do it, either Im slow at it or something. But it would take me almost a whole day to do my Jeep inside and out.

There are good tips at www.autogeek.net

Love this site.

Roll Out!!

Noticed you're selling or all your gloss it products and your porter cable... did you give up lol?