Well she wrecked it yesterday. Thankfully, she is ok and only has a bruised shoulder from the seatbelt. I don't know all the details, but I was told someone pulled out in front of her on a backroad and she slammed the front of the Charger into them.

Her parents are going to try to have it fixed. From what I've heard insurance did not total it.

My second question, after making sure she was alright, was "Do they want to sell it?":p

"I call dibs on the brake Calipers!" :D

I'll just copy my post from the other thread and drop it in here.....:p

So who's going to be the bookee? I'll put money on 2 weeks until it's wrecked because she was showing off to a friend or let her boyfriend drive it.

You called it!

You called it!
For the sake of the beautiful car, I wish I had been wrong. :(

Do I dare ask...any pics? JK

That was too much car for a new driver.

That was too much car for a new driver.

Absolutely. The parents should be shot. Give the kid a classy, safe SUV.

I drove a viper when i was 16, never had any problems.. :confused:

I drove a viper when i was 16, never had any problems.. :confused:
Apparently you weren't normal. The majority of young drivers who drive quick cars aren't responsible enough to drive them with respect.

yeaa my first car was a new cobra mustang---never had any issues---except alot of speeding tickets-

If someone pulled out in front of her, I fail to see why this has to do with a too powerful car for someone that young?

yeaa my first car was a new cobra mustang---never had any issues---except alot of speeding tickets-


ya i got a lot of speeding tickets too!!! :eek:

I guess I come from a different generation. I bought my first car with my own money ($950) and kept it running for years. I knew it inside and out and loved my car. The year was 1979, 16 years old and I got a 1974 Datsun 260Z - it was a great car - I drove it from 72,000 miles to 100,000 miles and sold it for more than I had into it!! Never smashed it. I grew to love MOPAR since my brother had a 1970 440 sixpack four speed pistol grip RoadRunner. We tinkered on that car endlessly and had lots of fun. I got my first new car at 32 years old and now I can afford just about any car I want.

In my opinion, no kids should be getting brand new cars. None of them know what delayed gratification is, nor do they know what it means to earn somtheing like this (a Charger or GCSRT). Yes, people pull out in front of you and crap happens - but experience teaches you to compensate (maybe by going slower in unsafe areas, for example - or anticipating the unexpected). Her parents should have to walk for a year for they are lucky she and her friends were not seriously hurt or worse.

Here in New York last week on Long Island, a 17 year old kid was handed the keys to his father's brand new BMW. The car ended up wrapped around a tree, totally disintegrated - you couldn't tell the front end from the back. The speedo was stuck on 173 miles per hour. Both kids in the car are dead.

Does anyone here (over 30) think that teenagers should be driving these types of cars around?

I guess I come from a different generation. I bought my first car with my own money ($950) and kept it running for years. I knew it inside and out and loved my car. The year was 1979, 16 years old and I got a 1974 Datsun 260Z - it was a great car - I drove it from 72,000 miles to 100,000 miles and sold it for more than I had into it!! Never smashed it. I grew to love MOPAR since my brother had a 1970 440 sixpack four speed pistol grip RoadRunner. We tinkered on that car endlessly and had lots of fun. I got my first new car at 32 years old and now I can afford just about any car I want.

In my opinion, no kids should be getting brand new cars. None of them know what delayed gratification is, nor do they know what it means to earn somtheing like this (a Charger or GCSRT). Yes, people pull out in front of you and crap happens - but experience teaches you to compensate (maybe by going slower in unsafe areas, for example - or anticipating the unexpected). Her parents should have to walk for a year for they are lucky she and her friends were not seriously hurt or worse.

Here in New York last week on Long Island, a 17 year old kid was handed the keys to his father's brand new BMW. The car ended up wrapped around a tree, totally disintegrated - you couldn't tell the front end from the back. The speedo was stuck on 173 miles per hour. Both kids in the car are dead.

Does anyone here (over 30) think that teenagers should be driving these types of cars around?


Well, I just missed your age cutoff date (I'm 30 on the button), but I for one don't think teenagers should be driving "too much car".

Like you, I've earned my way to owning the GCSRT8, and I've paid my dues with cars that were far less appealing than it.

My first car was a 1984 Olds Omega, and between that thing and the Jeep, I've had a lot of experience, with all sorts of cars.

Granted, there are definitely exceptions out there with regards to younger people being able to handle these things, but generally speaking, I think it's a safer bet to trust higher performance cars in the hands of more experienced drivers.

Just my $.02

If someone pulled out in front of her, I fail to see why this has to do with a too powerful car for someone that young?
It also doesn't say how fast she was going at the time or if she was exceeding the speedlimit, so we can't rule out her guilt, either.

I see your point. On the other hand, my dad "helped" me with my new car when I was 16 or 17 becuase he moved and I was forced to drive across town to school. He also wanted me to focus on my education and not have to have a part/full time job. It sounds like the difference is, I appreciated what he did for me and didn't expect it, where others may abuse that.
When my daughter turns 16, if she has her act together. I have no problem buying her a new car if she has her act together. Maybe she could focus on her education and athletics more, and possibly get a scholarship.
For the record...I'll be 30 in a few months.

I guess I come from a different generation. I bought my first car with my own money ($950) and kept it running for years. I knew it inside and out and loved my car. The year was 1979, 16 years old and I got a 1974 Datsun 260Z - it was a great car - I drove it from 72,000 miles to 100,000 miles and sold it for more than I had into it!! Never smashed it. I grew to love MOPAR since my brother had a 1970 440 sixpack four speed pistol grip RoadRunner. We tinkered on that car endlessly and had lots of fun. I got my first new car at 32 years old and now I can afford just about any car I want.

In my opinion, no kids should be getting brand new cars. None of them know what delayed gratification is, nor do they know what it means to earn somtheing like this (a Charger or GCSRT). Yes, people pull out in front of you and crap happens - but experience teaches you to compensate (maybe by going slower in unsafe areas, for example - or anticipating the unexpected). Her parents should have to walk for a year for they are lucky she and her friends were not seriously hurt or worse.

Here in New York last week on Long Island, a 17 year old kid was handed the keys to his father's brand new BMW. The car ended up wrapped around a tree, totally disintegrated - you couldn't tell the front end from the back. The speedo was stuck on 173 miles per hour. Both kids in the car are dead.

Does anyone here (over 30) think that teenagers should be driving these types of cars around?

hmm... im only 25---i wonder if im responsable enough for the gcsrt8---lol jk---i think its all according to the driver considering im still young and this is probably only the 4th or 5th fastest car ive owned and ive never crashed one of them--i would definitly say its the fastest truck i have had though

hmm... im only 25---i wonder if im responsable enough for the gcsrt8---lol jk---i think its all according to the driver considering im still young and this is probably only the 4th or 5th fastest car ive owned and ive never crashed one of them--i would definitly say its the fastest truck i have had though


You've had 4 or 5 faster cars than a GCSRT8 by the time you're 25? That's six sub-4.5 sec to 60 cars in the first 9 years of being able to legally drive.

Impressive. What do you do to be able indulge this habit? Deal drugs? (only kidding!)

yea i agree not everyone should be giving a high performance car but there are plenty of responcible kids that could drive it without a problem... more of a case by case situational question

My first car was used, but 9 months later I got a brand new car. I bought my car for $3,500 and put about $3,000 into. Most people don't have cash laying around to put it into a car.

My best friend bought a used car for cash and like 2 months later his engine blew, wheel hub sensors, exhaust rotted out, etc... I don't see what is wrong with allowing 'responsible' teenagers to get new cars. Warranties really come in handy. Just my $0.02

You've had 4 or 5 faster cars than a GCSRT8 by the time you're 25? That's six sub-4.5 sec to 60 cars in the first 9 years of being able to legally drive.

Impressive. What do you do to be able indulge this habit? Deal drugs? (only kidding!)


Ya thats the same boat im in, ive had a lot of different cars im only 21.

TB SS GCSRT8 03 cobra 617whp, cts v, navigator on 27s, but my dads had a lot of fast cars, 5 vipers and so on, so i would cruise that when i was 16, drove them when i was 15 on my permit :eek:

Ya thats the same boat im in, ive had a lot of different cars im only 21.

TB SS GCSRT8 03 cobra 617whp, cts v, navigator on 27s, but my dads had a lot of fast cars, 5 vipers and so on, so i would cruise that when i was 16, drove them when i was 15 on my permit :eek:

You guys are making me laugh. I learned to drive at 12 in a 1954 International dump truck. My Dad was a contractor and he let me drive it around the construction sites. It had a 2 foot diameter sterring wheel and no power steering. It would do 50 max - somehow I had fun - especially tooling into the dump and dropping a load of stone or garbage.

I guess you'd all be unimpressed by my 1978 Econline van and other lesser vehicles. Now you know why I value and respect my GC SRT8 - I've paid crappy car dues. In the same breath I have to admit all those cars served me well!

My first car was a ford t-bucket when i was 12 i lived in a small city in mexico so there was no problem and it was pretty fast

My first car was used, but 9 months later I got a brand new car. I bought my car for $3,500 and put about $3,000 into. Most people don't have cash laying around to put it into a car.

My best friend bought a used car for cash and like 2 months later his engine blew, wheel hub sensors, exhaust rotted out, etc... I don't see what is wrong with allowing 'responsible' teenagers to get new cars. Warranties really come in handy. Just my $0.02

First you say that most people don't have cash laying around to put into a car, but then promote buying a new car? Make up your mind.

I do agree with the point of a warranty, though. However, the warranty on a Kia Spectra is just as helpful as that of a Charger SRT-8. ;)

Wow....why do every one of my threads get hijacked?
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Pooooor Charger SRT8 :(

Apparently you weren't normal. The majority of young drivers who drive quick cars aren't responsible enough to drive them with respect.

I agree, my first car was a 67 GTO. Five days on the road.......needed new fender and bought the car I hit. A station wagon. Cheaper to buy it than fix it. Oh well. You live and learn.:D

Wow....why do every one of my threads get hijacked?
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Ok I guess I helped get it off topic, so to get back on topic.......I'm in for..... ok - the brake calipers. I'll flip you for them! Ok, I'll also take the 6.1 and tranny and I'll throw in my 4.0 liter straight 6 from my 1996 grand cherokee so she can have an appropriate amount of power:D

But I did think those comments about learning in a T-bucket or having to drive that Olds where cool and genuine. Certainly something I can relate to. Who would the guys at the top of the heap respect? (Chip Foose, etc.) The guy who saved, scraped and pieced together their rides (or eventually bought their cars themselves), or the little girl (or smug guy) who shows up and says look what dad got me!!!

Oh yeah, Kias do have warrantees. So do the hyundias

As a teacher, maybe you can relate to these kids that the people you will see soar in life, usually had humble origins and had to pay dues - usually alot of dues. New cars weren't an option. Often, an education wasn't an option. A strong work ethic and hard, hard work is what matters. Handing children the low hanging fruit (that was picked by their parents) doesn't promote any of that. But, it could be I'm just justifying the road I took (am on). What was your first ride??

Wow....why do every one of my threads get hijacked?
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You inspire people to think outside of the box. :D

First you say that most people don't have cash laying around to put into a car, but then promote buying a new car? Make up your mind.

I do agree with the point of a warranty, though. However, the warranty on a Kia Spectra is just as helpful as that of a Charger SRT-8. ;)

Well, most people have car payments. Hence, they can't afford the full cost of a vehicle. Like, my old car. Instead of $22,000 I could afford the $250 payments.

Like, my old car. Instead of $22,000 I could afford the $250 payments.

What the hell kind of magical loan did you find that gave you a $250 payment on a $22k vehicle? Even at 0% interest and a 72 month note, the payment is still over $300.

What the hell kind of magical loan did you find that gave you a $250 payment on a $22k vehicle? Even at 0% interest and a 72 month note, the payment is still over $300.

Are you for real? Please forgive me. First, it was a lease. I traded my used car in and they had a rebate. Do you really need the breakdown? :rolleyes:

Are you for real? Please forgive me. First, it was a lease. I traded my used car in and they had a rebate. Do you really need the breakdown? :rolleyes:
I wasn't being sarcastic. I also wasn't thinking about you having a trade-in because first time car buyers don't have a trade-in either.

okay. my bad. kisses ;)

okay. my bad. ;)
Yeah, I'm gonna pretend I didn't see that last word. :eek:

I truly respect ML's argument here. I'm 20 but like to attempt to admit that I am a mature 20 year old whom respects & appreciates everything i had/have today. Todays generation just wants everything handed to them, mommy/daddy buy me this, and they dont appreciate a da*m thing! Thus, they beat on the cars given to then and so forth. My parentals made my brothers and i the same deal in High School, that if we maintained a 3.8 gpa or above they would buy us a vehicle within reason. I opted to choose a 02 Grand Cherokee Limited. Then, i took my hard earned save money and then began to modify it, while paying for insurance every month. I now am a ful time student at the UNiversity of Pittsburgh working part time and making payments on my 06 Jeep Commander Limited. I get no help whatsoever, and by looking at the things i've owned you'd realize that yes, i do appreciate everything i have. I mean sometimes i have to breathe in and indulge in the situation and ask myself, damn is this really mine? But like you ML, i couldnt agree with you more. I'm not here to bash anyone, i just wanted to vent