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: [COMPLETED] - 4/18/07 SRT Q&A Session


ekool
04-18-2007, 01:28 PM
Before posting in this thread please read the following:

Update: It has been requested that this session be primarily used for discussion about the future Grand Cherokee SRT8 replacement. Questions regarding other vehicles will be answered but with a low priority.


Good evening from SRT. Glad to welcome all of you to tonight's special chat session. Believe me, the things we hear from you tonight will have an influence on the next generation vehicle. I assume that most of them will be suggestions and of course there is no real way to respond, but take our word for it from SRT that we will use your comments. Thanks to all of you in advance.

ekool
04-18-2007, 02:14 PM
This post has been made for ResumeSpeed based on suggestions in this thread: http://www.cherokeesrt8.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3816

2011 Grand Cherokee SRT8 wish list

1. Stlying - Go with a variant of the Trailhawk concept, it's one of the most popular Jeep concepts shown since the original '99 Commander concept.

2. Ride quality - This is probably the number one complaint from owners and reviewers. I would like to see some sort of advanced electronic adjustable "Road & Track" suspension in which one could switch from a "highway/road" mode to a "performance/track" mode.

3. Power - Usually reliable sources have "predicted" that the new 6.4L Hemi is a go and that it is already scheduled to go into the current gen WK in model year 2009 or 2010. We'll take it, perfect!!!!

4. Interior materials - Less plastic, the 2008 improvements are a start but it would be nice to see even more attention in this area. As far as features we are already getting the "MyGig" radio, telescoping steering column and streaming video which are all very welcome. Something that would be very desireable would be a reconfigurable cluster display with a 0-60 timer (2008 models?) and as many "performance/engineering" readouts as possible. The LX models already have this feature and it is very popular. Something to add would be a digital oil level readout as well as a transmission fluid level readout.

5. Interior, rear - We could use a couple more inches of legroom back there.

6. Interior, seats - Ventilated/cooled front seats. I understand that these are already on the table for the '08 or '09 Overland models, we'll take the feature as well.

7. Interior, climate controls - Bring back the digital readouts for the temperature.

8. Interior colors - Give us at least two choices here. I prefer the new dark slate gray coming on the '08 models, others may want something different.

9. Exterior colors - A better selection would be most welcome. For some reason there is a shortage of paint colors for most of the SRT models although some of the LX's have received some extra colors along the way. So far Jeep SRT owners have had a choice of two Blacks, two reds, a Silver and a Blue which is essentially only 4 colors over three model years.

10. Transmission - A switchable overdrive/6th gear for highway cruising. Also, more tension or adjustable tension for the shift lever. Many owners often unintentionally bump the lever into the manual mode.

11. Adjustable front lower air dam - A powered version would be awesome, allowing it to be raised an extra inch or two at the touch of a button, to avoid the ever-so-common scrapes.

12. Undefeatable factory wheel locks - Or some type of advanced wheel lock system. A locking steel center cap that covered all of the lugs is one idea I don't think anyone has come up with yet.

13. Hood lamp - Look, most of us would be glad to pay the $10 or so that it would cost for this convenient feature. Jeep used to have them but the bean counters nixed them. Give us a couple of small LED lamps that will illuminate the entire engine bay so at night we can show off that beautiful 510-hp 6.4L Hemi.

14. Rear liftgate aerodynamics - A design that won't attract every single bit of road dust and debri like the current model does.

15. Power liftgate - Already on the Commander and scheduled for the current WK, make it an option on the SRT8.

16. Rear fog lamps - Give us the stalk control and wiring to make these work so we don't have to wire them up outselves.

17. Mirrors, power folding - A great feature that has always been on export models, and more recently on Jeep Overland models.

18. Sills, door - Bring back the custom SRT8 door sill plates that were just deleted.

19. Cupholders, heated/cooled - A new option on a couple of new DCX models, add them to the list for the SRT.

20. Wiper nozzles - Get rid of the hood nozzles and put them on the wiper arm where they belong.

21. Slotted rotors - As are now available on the LX models.

22. Trailer hitch - With the 3rd model year of the WK SRT8 approaching it's amazing that we still do not have a factory hitch available.

23. Fuel tank size - Increased capacity for fuel, a 24-gallon tank would be nice.

24. Aftermarket performance parts - One of the main complaints from owners of current generation SRT8's is the lack of aftermarket performance parts available. It would be nice to see a nice selection from Mopar available at launch rather than years later.

ekool
04-18-2007, 02:17 PM
Posted for CobraKid:


hi,

I have a softball game tonight, and I am a new SRT8 owner.
(so I won't be able to join the discussion)

I love my new Jeep....but have a few suggestions.

I think the steering is a little too quick, even for a
sports vehicle.

The torque steer scares me a little when going over
30-40. I am no wuss, I have had several "high hp" vehicles.
It is just a little un-nerving in a SUV.

The DVD player is nice, but my 2 young kids use it
as a foot rest and it is almost too accessible to them.

Lastly......SRT should free up their info on the computers
so companies can make flash tuners, and not limit us
to the $600 computer flashes.

thanks,

I love the truck, more than my old Lightnings, and prolly
more than my 10 sec Cobra.

Chuck from DE

I also don't think the inside is too much cheesy plastic
like so many complain of?????

Rambit
04-18-2007, 02:55 PM
(Low Priority) I don't recall this question being asked before. Has there been any thought, or could it be possible, to make the lower lip spoiler available again for 2005 & early 2006 300C SRT8's? There are many of us who are paranoid of damaging it and being forced to go with the one piece front fascia.:mad: For me this is VERY important as my car will remain TOTALLY stock.

Surely the mold must still be around somewhere. In the case of those with the one piece fascia, who must have a front licence plate, the extra vent is covered anyway. There's also a fair amount of interest in these from 300C owners. Thanks!

Rambit

gculver
04-18-2007, 03:11 PM
Why has Mopar Performance parts(srt) overlooked the 6.1L(Jeep) in general when it comes to performance parts.ie: PCM,TCM, short tube headers, 6.1L camshafts.etc.--- 2 & 1/2 yrs into a 3 year build should be ample time to bring something to market! THANKS GC

Razorecko
04-18-2007, 03:29 PM
1. Heated driver/passenger side mirrors. ( for those bad winters )
2. Led integrated running lights ( like the new audis' K@ckass )
3. Better wind deflector, the current one doesn't help the wind noise at all.
4. There is practically no performance support for the 6.1L by mopar. If its like this for the 6.4L I wont buy it.
5. A real rear differential.
6. No orange peel paint.
7. KILL DRIVE BY WIRE !
8. No plastic roof rails.
9. A real horn,- like a train horn =)
10. Led lighting interior like in the new lexus'
11. shark fin or hidden antenna

SpeedRacer333
04-18-2007, 04:02 PM
This vehicle was created JUST for me! It is damn-near perfect! I see a lot of good suggestions, here's my 1 cent:

1. Please do not turn this into a bloated fat pig. I realize it is a SUV, but looking at some of the previous suggestions, please make the extra electrical gadgets optional, so the hard-core guys can pick the options that are a must for them.

2. I love the suspension. No, it's not to harsh for my taste. Give me an option for manually adjustable shocks, with spring rates at their current level or greater.

3. Please do not take any steps backwards on the braking system. I read a lot of responses concerning the brake dust (and I now know first hand of this), but performance comes at a cost! I love the brake feel of the current setup regardless of the byproducts! How about some slotted-full floating rotors with aluminum hats?

4. 6.4!!! N'uff said.

5. An additional gear or two in the tranny would be nice. A SMG or DSG style would be even nicer!!!!

Keep it up SRT!!!!

Team SRT
04-18-2007, 04:05 PM
Why has Mopar Performance parts(srt) overlooked the 6.1L(Jeep) in general when it comes to performance parts.ie: PCM,TCM, short tube headers, 6.1L camshafts.etc.--- 2 & 1/2 yrs into a 3 year build should be ample time to bring something to market! THANKS GC

We have not overlooked the 6.1L. It is a more optimized package and extracting additional power is more of a challenge for us. Please stay tuned in the future for new parts.

Razorecko
04-18-2007, 04:17 PM
To clarify the origninal question, Dc is still planning running the GC SRT8 series at least up untill the 2009 6.4L motor right ?

NasaRacer
04-18-2007, 04:19 PM
I have bugged you guys in the past. But wanted to let you know that one of your suggestions of something that is a good modification has worked out very nicely on my 2007 Magnum SRT8.

The LX Poilce Package Oil/Water Cooler. Works and fits nicely on the 6.1. Does a good job of preventing big spikes in oil temp during hard driving. Especially usefull with the 6.1 since oil squirters cool the underside of the pistons.

Some Chrysler/Dodge Dealers are selling all the necessary parts for the oil cooler for $129. Which tells me the incremental cost of adding this to all 6.1 Engines would be very small. Especially since the design/engineering for this one is pretty much done. So my suggestion is all 6.1 Engines in performance applications like an SRT8 vehicle should have one of these. See if the bean counters will let you do it!!??

cmn1
04-18-2007, 04:20 PM
Another month goes by and still no trailer hitch. How about one of those for any year of the GC SRT8. Any updates on a release date?

Team SRT
04-18-2007, 04:22 PM
1. Heated driver/passenger side mirrors. ( for those bad winters )
2. Led integrated running lights ( like the new audis' K@ckass )
3. Better wind deflector, the current one doesn't help the wind noise at all.
4. There is practically no performance support for the 6.1L by mopar. If its like this for the 6.4L I wont buy it.
5. A real rear differential.
6. No orange peel paint.
7. KILL DRIVE BY WIRE !
8. No plastic roof rails.
9. A real horn,- like a train horn =)
10. Led lighting interior like in the new lexus'
11. shark fin or hidden antenna

what do you mean by"real rear diff"......i like your other ideas....good stuff

Team SRT
04-18-2007, 04:22 PM
To clarify the origninal question, Dc is still planning running the GC SRT8 series at least up untill the 2009 6.4L motor right ?

You keep buying 'em, we'll keep making 'em.

Team SRT
04-18-2007, 04:22 PM
(Low Priority) I don't recall this question being asked before. Has there been any thought, or could it be possible, to make the lower lip spoiler available again for 2005 & early 2006 300C SRT8's? There are many of us who are paranoid of damaging it and being forced to go with the one piece front fascia.:mad: For me this is VERY important as my car will remain TOTALLY stock.

Surely the mold must still be around somewhere. In the case of those with the one piece fascia, who must have a front licence plate, the extra vent is covered anyway. There's also a fair amount of interest in these from 300C owners. Thanks!

Rambit

We are not sure about the availability of the early fascia chin spoiler through Mopar Service Parts. The supplier of that part is no longer in business. Please send a private message and we will get back to you after we check with Mopar.

GodfatherSRT8
04-18-2007, 04:25 PM
How about flush door pins and seat controls that are easily reachable. Small little details make a difference.

SRT8
04-18-2007, 04:26 PM
1. 6/7/or 8 spd tranny in congunction w/lower gears (~3.91? w/LS), also an electronic mode that could be switched from performance/"sport"(much harder slamming of gears like the old school reworked trannies) to normal/"sissy"(like a sane person would drive)

2.) Theres no replacement for displacement. We keep talking about 6.4L, give me 7L or make it 7.2L, etc.

3.) Bigger/stiffer sway bars.

4.) Mopar Performance products that are available at the same time the vehicle is launched.

5.) Softer interior that is more unique than the other GC's, & a big 'ol pistol grip shifter.

6.) Splash guards that fit & look sporty. (I drive in the snow, etc. quit laughing):)

7.) The oil/water cooler that Nasa mentioned the LX police package has. (Will this fit the current GC SRT8?)

8.) Don't increase the price tag.

OurZoo
04-18-2007, 04:26 PM
I can't add to any of the great suggestions already mentioned so I have several questions about the 07GCSRT8s.
What's the update on the squeaking brakes/scored rotor problem?

What's the update on the newest TCM flash for 1-2 shift hesitation?

Awesome vehicles SRT team...I love 'em.

ekool
04-18-2007, 04:26 PM
I've always wondered why the navigation system cannot use the passenger airbag detection system to determine when a passenger is in the car and allow the navigation to be controlled while in motion if a passenger is detected.

I think this would be a handy option on future vehicles.

Team SRT
04-18-2007, 04:27 PM
I have bugged you guys in the past. But wanted to let you know that one of your suggestions of something that is a good modification has worked out very nicely on my 2007 Magnum SRT8.

The LX Poilce Package Oil/Water Cooler. Works and fits nicely on the 6.1. Does a good job of preventing big spikes in oil temp during hard driving. Especially usefull with the 6.1 since oil squirters cool the underside of the pistons.

Some Chrysler/Dodge Dealers are selling all the necessary parts for the oil cooler for $129. Which tells me the incremental cost of adding this to all 6.1 Engines would be very small. Especially since the design/engineering for this one is pretty much done. So my suggestion is all 6.1 Engines in performance applications like an SRT8 vehicle should have one of these. See if the bean counters will let you do it!!??

We always keep that one in our back pocket :) During all of our testing, we do not go over goal for oil temps. What kind of temps do you consider 'big spikes'? Thanks for the thoughts... and we'll try to keep the bean counters at bay....

Team SRT
04-18-2007, 04:27 PM
Posted for CobraKid:


thanx for the good ideas....this is exactly what we're looking for....glad you like your Jeep...we're just getting started....

Team SRT
04-18-2007, 04:27 PM
This post has been made for ResumeSpeed based on suggestions in this thread: http://www.cherokeesrt8.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3816

2011 Grand Cherokee SRT8 wish list

1. Stlying - Go with a variant of the Trailhawk concept, it's one of the most popular Jeep concepts shown since the original '99 Commander concept.

2. Ride quality - This is probably the number one complaint from owners and reviewers. I would like to see some sort of advanced electronic adjustable "Road & Track" suspension in which one could switch from a "highway/road" mode to a "performance/track" mode.

3. Power - Usually reliable sources have "predicted" that the new 6.4L Hemi is a go and that it is already scheduled to go into the current gen WK in model year 2009 or 2010. We'll take it, perfect!!!!

4. Interior materials - Less plastic, the 2008 improvements are a start but it would be nice to see even more attention in this area. As far as features we are already getting the "MyGig" radio, telescoping steering column and streaming video which are all very welcome. Something that would be very desireable would be a reconfigurable cluster display with a 0-60 timer (2008 models?) and as many "performance/engineering" readouts as possible. The LX models already have this feature and it is very popular. Something to add would be a digital oil level readout as well as a transmission fluid level readout.

5. Interior, rear - We could use a couple more inches of legroom back there.

6. Interior, seats - Ventilated/cooled front seats. I understand that these are already on the table for the '08 or '09 Overland models, we'll take the feature as well.

7. Interior, climate controls - Bring back the digital readouts for the temperature.

8. Interior colors - Give us at least two choices here. I prefer the new dark slate gray coming on the '08 models, others may want something different.

9. Exterior colors - A better selection would be most welcome. For some reason there is a shortage of paint colors for most of the SRT models although some of the LX's have received some extra colors along the way. So far Jeep SRT owners have had a choice of two Blacks, two reds, a Silver and a Blue which is essentially only 4 colors over three model years.

10. Transmission - A switchable overdrive/6th gear for highway cruising. Also, more tension or adjustable tension for the shift lever. Many owners often unintentionally bump the lever into the manual mode.

11. Adjustable front lower air dam - A powered version would be awesome, allowing it to be raised an extra inch or two at the touch of a button, to avoid the ever-so-common scrapes.

12. Undefeatable factory wheel locks - Or some type of advanced wheel lock system. A locking steel center cap that covered all of the lugs is one idea I don't think anyone has come up with yet.

13. Hood lamp - Look, most of us would be glad to pay the $10 or so that it would cost for this convenient feature. Jeep used to have them but the bean counters nixed them. Give us a couple of small LED lamps that will illuminate the entire engine bay so at night we can show off that beautiful 510-hp 6.4L Hemi.

14. Rear liftgate aerodynamics - A design that won't attract every single bit of road dust and debri like the current model does.

15. Power liftgate - Already on the Commander and scheduled for the current WK, make it an option on the SRT8.

16. Rear fog lamps - Give us the stalk control and wiring to make these work so we don't have to wire them up outselves.

17. Mirrors, power folding - A great feature that has always been on export models, and more recently on Jeep Overland models.

18. Sills, door - Bring back the custom SRT8 door sill plates that were just deleted.

19. Cupholders, heated/cooled - A new option on a couple of new DCX models, add them to the list for the SRT.

20. Wiper nozzles - Get rid of the hood nozzles and put them on the wiper arm where they belong.

21. Slotted rotors - As are now available on the LX models.

22. Trailer hitch - With the 3rd model year of the WK SRT8 approaching it's amazing that we still do not have a factory hitch available.

23. Fuel tank size - Increased capacity for fuel, a 24-gallon tank would be nice.

24. Aftermarket performance parts - One of the main complaints from owners of current generation SRT8's is the lack of aftermarket performance parts available. It would be nice to see a nice selection from Mopar available at launch rather than years later.


Thanks for the short list of excellent suggestions. We are looking forward to seeing a great list of ideas tonight.

SRT8
04-18-2007, 04:27 PM
what do you mean by"real rear diff"......i like your other ideas....good stuff
Limited slip rear differential.

Team SRT
04-18-2007, 04:27 PM
To clarify the origninal question, Dc is still planning running the GC SRT8 series at least up untill the 2009 6.4L motor right ?

Nice try on the future product question. Tried to catch us in the euphoria of all this good feeling stuff. Suffice it to say we plan to continue building 'em as long as you keep buying 'em.

PsychoSRT8
04-18-2007, 04:28 PM
How about flush door pins and seat controls that are easily reachable. Small little details make a difference.

+1 i've owned this car for 6 months now (LIVE IT) but still can't find a 'comfortable' place to put my left arm when i drive

NasaRacer
04-18-2007, 04:32 PM
On a not so good issue. During the install of my oil cooler I discovered some extreme tire wear on my front 245/45/20 Goodyear Super Car Tire. There was actually chunking of the tread blocks from the center tread towards the outside of the tire. Worse on the left front tire but also more minor on the right front tire. No real indication on the rear 255s.

I actually had the Head LX engineer(Forgot his name) who was present at The Spring Fling Event last month at DCX in Irvine,CA inspect my front tires. He was very suprised to see such wear. He took my information and said he would pass it on to someone at SRT and said I should wait to hear from them so we can instuct the dealer on the correct repairs.

My car is again 2007 Magnum SRT with 5700miles. Tires have always been ran at factory pressure from the door jam.

thanks guys

SRT8
04-18-2007, 04:32 PM
Any #'s on the gains the new MP heads/cam will produce? A MP PCM & TCM would be nice for our current rides.

Team SRT
04-18-2007, 04:33 PM
I can't add to any of the great suggestions already mentioned so I have several questions about the 07GCSRT8s.
What's the update on the squeaking brakes/scored rotor problem?

What's the update on the newest TCM flash for 1-2 shift hesitation?

Awesome vehicles SRT team...I love 'em.


we're working on an alternate pad for the brake noise issue....stay tuned right now no trans flash planned....glad you love your Jeep....we love making them.....

Razorecko
04-18-2007, 04:35 PM
we're working on an alternate pad for the brake noise issue....stay tuned right now no trans flash planned....glad you love your Jeep....we love making them.....


Didn't the slotted rotors fix the issue for the lx's squeeling brakes ? - i'm guessing that by dc standards a different pad is a cheaper fix than a slotted rotor.

Blown7
04-18-2007, 04:36 PM
Make sure the next generation GCSRT has the same size tires at all four corners.

Jeff

Team SRT
04-18-2007, 04:37 PM
I've always wondered why the navigation system cannot use the passenger airbag detection system to determine when a passenger is in the car and allow the navigation to be controlled while in motion if a passenger is detected.

I think this would be a handy option on future vehicles.


The problem the lawyers would have with your plan is you could still be running the nav while your passenger sleeps. You could also put your briefcase on the seat and run the nav.

"You keep buying 'em, we'll keep building 'em" can be modified to say, "You quit suing us for your stupidity, we'll let the leash out."

Team SRT
04-18-2007, 04:40 PM
On a not so good issue. During the install of my oil cooler I discovered some extreme tire wear on my front 245/45/20 Goodyear Super Car Tire. There was actually chunking of the tread blocks from the center tread towards the outside of the tire. Worse on the left front tire but also more minor on the right front tire. No real indication on the rear 255s.

I actually had the Head LX engineer(Forgot his name) who was present at The Spring Fling Event last month at DCX in Irvine,CA inspect my front tires. He was very suprised to see such wear. He took my information and said he would pass it on to someone at SRT and said I should wait to hear from them so we can instuct the dealer on the correct repairs.

My car is again 2007 Magnum SRT with 5700miles. Tires have always been ran at factory pressure from the door jam.

thanks guys


the best thing to do would be to stop by a certified Goodyear store and have them take a look.......

Razorecko
04-18-2007, 04:40 PM
A ram air / cowl hood would be awesome, especially since it would help the heat from the 6.1L :D

Team SRT
04-18-2007, 04:40 PM
We are very close to having it available to the public. Should have a solid answer by the next Web Chat.

Team SRT
04-18-2007, 04:42 PM
Any #'s on the gains the new MP heads/cam will produce? A MP PCM & TCM would be nice for our current rides.

I'm assuming you're referring to a 6.1L application. Those heads were developed for the Mopar 392 crate engine and are a direct fit for 6.1L applications. I can't say exactly what kind of hp gains you will see but they make very impressive power on the 392.

GodfatherSRT8
04-18-2007, 04:42 PM
How about employee pricing for everyone??:D :D

cmn1
04-18-2007, 04:44 PM
We are very close to having it available to the public. Should have a solid answer by the next Web Chat.
What is close to being available?

Team SRT
04-18-2007, 04:45 PM
Didn't the slotted rotors fix the issue for the lx's squeeling brakes ? - i'm guessing that by dc standards a different pad is a cheaper fix than a slotted rotor.

actually the slotted rotors helped scoring not the noise......

GEN XER
04-18-2007, 04:46 PM
I would like to see a system that allows the jeep to go from awd to rwd while in motion. Off the line is awesome but from what I hear as you travel thru the 1/4 mile in awd it loses some of its umph. If there was a system activated by the press of a button, that allowed the jeep to transfer up to 85-90 percent of the power to the rear tires after lets say 60' then that big lead the jeep gets from the whole it will probably hold all the way down the track.

Team SRT
04-18-2007, 04:46 PM
How about employee pricing for everyone??:D :D

You already get the pricing we get - no discount! Product is too hot.

DaveW68
04-18-2007, 04:46 PM
Do you see any issues with using throttle body spacers in order to keep the intake air cooler? I've seen a couple of CSRT cars with the spacer and the throttle body is significantly cooler even when run hard. You can actually rest your hand on it after a hard run.

NasaRacer
04-18-2007, 04:47 PM
Carefully monitoring of the oil temps prior to the cooler install I would get spikes up to 260-270F which I know you guys feel is not a concern. But I feel better that now with everything else being completely stock...203 Thermostat. At the same ambient outside temp and under similar driving situations my oil temp now does not spike to more than about 240-245F and at steady cruise speeds at normal operating temps the oil runs about 220-230F ofcourse depending on relative coolant temps. And I even charted a slightly quicker oil warm from a cold start. So I still feel temps are good enough to get everything to proper internal clearances and provide enough temp to flash off any moisture condenstation.

Team SRT
04-18-2007, 04:47 PM
the best thing to do would be to stop by a certified Goodyear store and have them take a look.......


If your alignment is verified to be in spec.

Gnat Turner
04-18-2007, 04:48 PM
Upcoming JGC SRT8

Increased towing capacity. Somewhere in the 6500 lb range (I see this quoted most often as reason not to buy one)
The 6.4L V8 (should be good enough for 500+ hp).
Enhanced interior (opulence levels should rival other premium mid-size SUVs as there will no glass ceiling imposed by Daimler).
Performance exceeding that of the AMG ML63.

Team SRT
04-18-2007, 04:50 PM
I would like to see a system that allows the jeep to go from awd to rwd while in motion. Off the line is awesome but from what I hear as you travel thru the 1/4 mile in awd it loses some of its umph. If there was a system activated by the press of a button, that allowed the jeep to transfer up to 85-90 percent of the power to the rear tires after lets say 60' then that big lead the jeep gets from the whole it will probably hold all the way down the track.

If that button were connected to retro rockets it might help propel this high drag aero form thru the air.

Blown7
04-18-2007, 04:51 PM
Yes whats up with the low tow capacity? What are the reasons for the limitations?

Jeff

Team SRT
04-18-2007, 04:51 PM
A few more hoops to pass through. Join at the next Web Chat we should have a date.

Roman371
04-18-2007, 04:55 PM
Many LX owners continue to experience the cloudy/ammonia coolant issue. The issue is now very well documented at the following thread:

http://www.chargerforums.com/forums/...ad.php?t=33393

This is occurring with 2006 as well as with 2007 model LX cars. It does not appear to be occurring with Cherokee SRT8’s, based on threads posted here. That seems to be consistent with what is said in the letter that is attached to this posting, which implies the issue affects only LX SRT8’s (and not WK’s or LE’s):

http://http://www.lxforums.com/board...22&postcount=1

There is also frustration by many LX owners who take their cars to their local dealers and the service departments say the same thing: they know nothing about this issue, and they do not want to do anything about it.

What should LX owners with this problem do at this time? Is it “safe” to operate our cars with this coolant “gunk” floating in our cooling systems like this? Are we harming our engines by waiting for a solution to the coolant issue? What do you recommend we do at this time with our defective coolant/cooling systems?

Team SRT
04-18-2007, 04:56 PM
Yes whats up with the low tow capacity? What are the reasons for the limitations?

Jeff


The park sprag can't hold more than a 3500 lb trailer. On top of that, the rest of the vehicle has not been tuned to pull more than that, specifically the rear suspension.

OurZoo
04-18-2007, 04:57 PM
Has there or will there be a more concentrated effort on training techs for our vehicles? I swear the forum members seem to know more about these vehicles than some dealerships. I don't just mean the Jeeps. I mean all the SRTs...

DanDE
04-18-2007, 05:00 PM
My 4th GC, and the best ever. GREAT vehicle SRT.

Old:

1) Status of TSB's from previous session? Especially the front brake/rotor scoring and any flashes (even for '07 vehicles). 2) Trailer hitch.

New Vehicle:

1) No V-10. Just killer V8!
2) This transmission is excellent. Improve it with 2 more gears.
3) 2 piece front facia, lower affordably replacable.

Many thanks and keep up the good work!

Hemi31
04-18-2007, 05:01 PM
I'd love to post a video of the crud in the cooling system but I need three more posts

Team SRT
04-18-2007, 05:02 PM
Make sure the next generation GCSRT has the same size tires at all four corners.

Jeff


We hope you aren't thinking 255's all the way around!!!

Team SRT
04-18-2007, 05:02 PM
Upcoming JGC SRT8


Performance exceeding that of the AMG ML63.


don't need to wait for the upcoming JGC SRT8 for that

DaveW68
04-18-2007, 05:02 PM
Do you see any issues with using throttle body spacers in order to keep the intake air cooler? I've seen a couple of CSRT cars with the spacer and the throttle body is significantly cooler even when run hard. You can actually rest your hand on it after a hard run.

Hemi31
04-18-2007, 05:02 PM
Have you guys looked into the LX front end clunk anymore.It goes away when you replace the Suspensions with Coilovers.

Team SRT
04-18-2007, 05:04 PM
Has there or will there be a more concentrated effort on training techs for our vehicles? I swear the forum members seem to know more about these vehicles than some dealerships. I don't just mean the Jeeps. I mean all the SRTs...

Actually, we are planning a concerted effort on this starting soon. When we first launched SRT a number of years ago, we required dealers who wanted to sell SRT's to send at least one tech to special training. In the years since as we have been focused on growing the business with the products you all love, we may have lost sight of that end of it. We are keenly aware of the need to get back into this and have a budget and a plan.

The one issue we have not been able to solve is that as we train the techs, they become "desireable" and get lured away by other dealers and we're right back where we started.

But that's our problem and not yours and we will work to solve it.

NasaRacer
04-18-2007, 05:04 PM
As for another suggestion that might freak the bean counters. The Jeeps and LX SRT8s all need to get the 7speed Mercedes Auto. I checked out the ratios on that box ... they are SWEET!! With that box you could consider a slightly taller like 3.50 differential ratios in the Jeeps...get more performance and more gas mileage.

On the LXs go 7speed and keep the 3.06 ... I mean 7th gear is still higher than the current LX 5th. ;)

And if you need a long term 7speed test LX SRT .... I volunteer!! :D

Team SRT
04-18-2007, 05:04 PM
Do you see any issues with using throttle body spacers in order to keep the intake air cooler? I've seen a couple of CSRT cars with the spacer and the throttle body is significantly cooler even when run hard. You can actually rest your hand on it after a hard run.

Cooling down the throttle body means nothing to the air temperature entering the port or performance . On some engines, the length of the intake to the throttle body is actually a tuning device for the engine.picking up either HP or torque. On some good manifolds, optimum lenght is designed in for tuning.
On an aluminum manifold , isolating the whole intake will lower the charge temps at significant pain. Plastic manifolds do provide slightly lower average charge temps which will add power. Remember winter. Remember over the long run, everything under the hood gets to an equalized temperature.

Hemi31
04-18-2007, 05:05 PM
Actually, we are planning a concerted effort on this starting soon. When we first launched SRT a number of years ago, we required dealers who wanted to sell SRT's to send at least one tech to special training. In the years since as we have been focused on growing the business with the products you all love, we may have lost sight of that end of it. We are keenly aware of the need to get back into this and have a budget and a plan.

The one issue we have not been able to solve is that as we train the techs, they become "desireable" and get lured away by other dealers and we're right back where we started.

But that's our problem and not yours and we will work to solve it.I hope you do....I hate showing the dealer techs up.

Team SRT
04-18-2007, 05:06 PM
As for another suggestion that might freak the bean counters. The Jeeps and LX SRT8s all need to get the 7speed Mercedes Auto. I checked out the ratios on that box ... they are SWEET!! With that box you could consider a slightly taller like 3.50 differential ratios in the Jeeps...get more performance and more gas mileage.

On the LXs go 7speed and keep the 3.06 ... I mean 7th gear is still higher than the current LX 5th. ;)

And if you need a long term 7speed test LX SRT .... I volunteer!! :D

How much would you pay for good 7 speed gear box ? with paddle shifters?

asphaltcowboy
04-18-2007, 05:06 PM
what is the gear ratio in the srt8gc

Team SRT
04-18-2007, 05:06 PM
Have you guys looked into the LX front end clunk anymore.It goes away when you replace the Suspensions with Coilovers.


We found a customer car with front upper strut mounts that needed to be replaced. The steering rack and tension struts were fine.

rainmaker
04-18-2007, 05:06 PM
Hello,

Thanks for chatting. We appreciate having a direct link to the folks that built the ride. Keep up the good work.


Can you help clear up some confusion for me. What kind of axle/rear end is in the Jeep SRT8? I know it's a Dana 44, but i keep hearing that it's an open Diff. Or that it's ESLD. Can you tell me which diff it is?

Thanks!

OurZoo
04-18-2007, 05:07 PM
A lockable gas cap seems like a no brainer on such nice vehicles as well! :rolleyes:

Team SRT
04-18-2007, 05:07 PM
what is the gear ratio in the srt8gc


The gears are 3.73:1

PsychoSRT8
04-18-2007, 05:07 PM
any reaction to the original post w/ the majority of suggestions?

rainmaker
04-18-2007, 05:07 PM
Can you tell us what you know/think about these guys?

http://www.bgperformancepcm.com/

Many of us are looking for performance PCM's and Mopar doesn't seem to be offering anything.

Team SRT
04-18-2007, 05:08 PM
My 4th GC, and the best ever. GREAT vehicle SRT.

Old:

1) Status of TSB's from previous session? Especially the front brake/rotor scoring and any flashes (even for '07 vehicles). 2) Trailer hitch.

New Vehicle:

1) No V-10. Just killer V8!
2) This transmission is excellent. Improve it with 2 more gears.
3) 2 piece front facia, lower affordably replacable.

Many thanks and keep up the good work!



nothing yet....stay tuned ....we're working on the brake situation....

Blown7
04-18-2007, 05:09 PM
We hope you aren't thinking 255's all the way around!!!

No, it doesn't matter to me what size are on the vechicle, but I took delivery this week and I had to stop at the parts department before I left and pick up two new spare tires that now have a coveted space in my garage, that I may never use, but given the odd ball size of the installed tires, and the fact I live in a very rural area with the nearest Goodyear dealer 50 miles away and then not knowing what he may stock. It gives me piece of mind. Now I have to figure how to carry these with me on my next 1200 mile cross country trip.


Jeff

Hemi31
04-18-2007, 05:09 PM
We found a customer car with front upper strut mounts that needed to be replaced. The steering rack and tension struts were fine.Hmmmm....I just did two suspensions and kept the strut mounts.Both cars quieted right down.

Hemi31
04-18-2007, 05:09 PM
Here's the video........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVDLlOmZEyU&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Elxforums%2Ecom%2Fboard%2Fs howthread%2Ephp%3Ft%3D52987%26page%3D2%26highlight %3Dcoolant

Team SRT
04-18-2007, 05:12 PM
Can you tell us what you know/think about these guys?

http://www.bgperformancepcm.com/

Many of us are looking for performance PCM's and Mopar doesn't seem to be offering anything.

We can't comment on stuff we don't make/design....

Team SRT
04-18-2007, 05:13 PM
Hello,

Thanks for chatting. We appreciate having a direct link to the folks that built the ride. Keep up the good work.


Can you help clear up some confusion for me. What kind of axle/rear end is in the Jeep SRT8? I know it's a Dana 44, but i keep hearing that it's an open Diff. Or that it's ESLD. Can you tell me which diff it is?

Thanks!

It is an open diff with BLD, not ESLD. BLD lightly applies the spinning wheel's brake to transfer torque to the wheel with traction, front and rear.

Ironside
04-18-2007, 05:14 PM
This question for the SRT engineers isn't related to the SRT8's so make it low priority if you need to.

I was wondering if you could give us a little insight into how Dodge/Chrysler vehicles are selected to become SRT vehicles. What would determine which ones get picked for the upgrade and which ones aren't worth it?

I only ask because I went by the local dealership tonight and drove a Dodge Avenger R/T and the gears started turning in my head that I wanted to buy one, but it would be damn nice to see it as a possible SRT-6. I also remember on the Dodge.com website that you could build and price a make-believe Avenger with all kinds of SRT-ish options.

I know you can't comment on future products but, is there anything you can add on this topic?

Team SRT
04-18-2007, 05:14 PM
No, it doesn't matter to me what size are on the vechicle, but I took delivery this week and I had to stop at the parts department before I left and pick up two new spare tires that now have a coveted space in my garage, that I may never use, but given the odd ball size of the installed tires, and the fact I live in a very rural area with the nearest Goodyear dealer 50 miles away and then not knowing what he may stock. It gives me piece of mind. Now I have to figure how to carry these with me on my next 1200 mile cross country trip.


Jeff

Your vehicle is riding on run-flats... even if you were to get a flat you shouldn't have a problem (with moderate speed of course) making it to the nearest dealer.

DaveW68
04-18-2007, 05:14 PM
Cooling down the throttle body means nothing to the air temperature entering the port or performance . On some engines, the length of the intake to the throttle body is actually a tuning device for the engine.picking up either HP or torque. On some good manifolds, optimum lenght is designed in for tuning.
On an aluminum manifold , isolating the whole intake will lower the charge temps at significant pain. Plastic manifolds do provide slightly lower average charge temps which will add power. Remember winter. Remember over the long run, everything under the hood gets to an equalized temperature.

My bad. I really didn't mean throttle body. I asked the wrong question.

What I meant to ask was if you see a problem installing a phenolic spacer between the manifold and head in order to keep the manifold temperature and thus intake air cooler? Sorry about the confusion.

Team SRT
04-18-2007, 05:14 PM
any reaction to the original post w/ the majority of suggestions?

Yes. We think that is a wonderful collection of ideas - some of which we have asked for before and can now take proof from the voice of our customers to make a reality. But as I said before, we will consider all of these ideas seriously along with the others we have received.

rainmaker
04-18-2007, 05:14 PM
It is an open diff with BLD, not ESLD. BLD lightly applies the spinning wheel's brake to transfer torque to the wheel with traction, front and rear.


Cool. Thanks What about the front diff?

For future vehicles, I'd suggest a locking rear diff. <<<trying to keep thread on topic...

Rambit
04-18-2007, 05:15 PM
How about a space saver spare tire with a steel rim that WILL clear the front Brembo's for the LX SRT8's? Have you looked into this possibility at all?

Rambit

Persicutor
04-18-2007, 05:15 PM
some general questions:

1) what is the peak efficiency of the neon srt-4s intercooler? what are typical outlet temps at full boost in warm weather?

2)Which racetracks do you guys use to test the srt vehicles? do you use any in europe also?

3) are any of you guys professional engineers (Peng) ?

boomer
04-18-2007, 05:16 PM
How much would you pay for good 7 speed gear box ? with paddle shifters?

i think it's pretty obvious that none of us who own this vehicle is too afraid of paying for EXACTLY what we want. i think this car has the potential to generate re-sale numbers that will impress the pants off of future generations..if mopar allows for more options. offer as many options as you possibly can, kill the drive by wire and in thirty or so years, hope that everyone else crashes thier gcsrt8 and laugh all the way to the bank!!

Team SRT
04-18-2007, 05:16 PM
No, it doesn't matter to me what size are on the vechicle, but I took delivery this week and I had to stop at the parts department before I left and pick up two new spare tires that now have a coveted space in my garage, that I may never use, but given the odd ball size of the installed tires, and the fact I live in a very rural area with the nearest Goodyear dealer 50 miles away and then not knowing what he may stock. It gives me piece of mind. Now I have to figure how to carry these with me on my next 1200 mile cross country trip.



Jeff


A front wheel and tire will fit on the rear if you are in a jam. You do have EMT (extended mobility tires) from the factory, also.

ResumeSpeed
04-18-2007, 05:17 PM
Speaking of "spacers", the latest "mod" rage seems to be "Phenolic Intake Spacers". GSM has a set that they sell for $120. Many LX owners have already installed them and several Jeep owners have considered them as well. Several issues have popped up, mainly due to the gaskets leaking, etc. What are your thoughts on this mod, worthwhile or a waste of time? Drawbacks?

GEN XER
04-18-2007, 05:17 PM
What is the permanent fix to the cloudy coolant issues?

Maybe lower the next gen GCSRT8.

Team SRT
04-18-2007, 05:17 PM
My bad. I really didn't mean throttle body. I asked the wrong question.

What I meant to ask was if you see a problem installing a phenolic spacer between the manifold and head in order to keep the manifold temperature and thus intake air cooler? Sorry about the confusion.

A space between the head and intake does help reduce intake charge temps.
Good Luck

NasaRacer
04-18-2007, 05:20 PM
Myself personally .... if a 5speed auto was standard and a 7speed was an optional tranny. I would give a fricking kidney for it!! But I am a 99.9 percentile type customer. At the current price range of an SRT8 be it LX or Jeep. I would think around around $900-1200 more retail for a 7speed over a 5speed is reasonable. I think if it got to be much more than $1500 extra for a 7speed it might be harder option to sell to a more "mainstream" customer. Since it is not a tangible option like a sunroof, leather or a upgraded stereo. Maybe we should open the question of price up to everyone??

Team SRT
04-18-2007, 05:20 PM
How about a space saver spare tire with a steel rim that WILL clear the front Brembo's for the LX SRT8's? Have you looked into this possibility at all?

Rambit

right now there is no part available that can do the job....we did look at it but would have to dev it from scratch......

Team SRT
04-18-2007, 05:21 PM
Cool. Thanks What about the front diff?

For future vehicles, I'd suggest a locking rear diff. <<<trying to keep thread on topic...


Front is open with BLD, too. The front is not a dana 44. It is from Detroit Axle. We know what you are thinking. Good luck finding steeper gears for the front diff, unfortunately.

Team SRT
04-18-2007, 05:21 PM
Many LX owners continue to experience the cloudy/ammonia coolant issue. The issue is now very well documented at the following thread:

http://www.chargerforums.com/forums/...ad.php?t=33393

This is occurring with 2006 as well as with 2007 model LX cars. It does not appear to be occurring with Cherokee SRT8’s, based on threads posted here. That seems to be consistent with what is said in the letter that is attached to this posting, which implies the issue affects only LX SRT8’s (and not WK’s or LE’s):

http://http://www.lxforums.com/board...22&postcount=1

There is also frustration by many LX owners who take their cars to their local dealers and the service departments say the same thing: they know nothing about this issue, and they do not want to do anything about it.

What should LX owners with this problem do at this time? Is it “safe” to operate our cars with this coolant “gunk” floating in our cooling systems like this? Are we harming our engines by waiting for a solution to the coolant issue? What do you recommend we do at this time with our defective coolant/cooling systems?

Thanks for your well documented note.... we also monitor the forums very closely as you could imagine (including the video)...

First and foremost:

DO NOT PUT BAKING SODA IN YOUR ENGINE PER THE THREAD BELOW!!!
http://www.***********/forums/showthread.php?t=8326

We understand your frustration; actually we are just as frustrated that we can't give you an 'official' answer today, but be assured that we know exactly what the issue is and are working to push the issue UP the proverbial mountain to get you guys a solution.

Your best bet is to go here:
http://www.lxforums.com/board/showthread.php?t=52987&highlight=coolant

Print out the thread / letter and go to your dealer... they will probably call their zone rep, but they will be told to flush your system per the LX service manual, put in fresh coolant and add an additive. As a grassroots initiative, ask your dealer to put the verbage 'cloudy and ammonia smelling coolant' into the narrative when you take your vehicle in for this issue.

We've commented as much as we could before in past sessions, and can't say more than we said today and at the link here...
http://www.chargerforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=486633&postcount=85

Again, our recommendation is the text above in red. And, you didn't hear it here, but the part number for the additive might just happen to be 68029698AA.

;)

Team SRT
04-18-2007, 05:23 PM
This question for the SRT engineers isn't related to the SRT8's so make it low priority if you need to.

I was wondering if you could give us a little insight into how Dodge/Chrysler vehicles are selected to become SRT vehicles. What would determine which ones get picked for the upgrade and which ones aren't worth it?

I only ask because I went by the local dealership tonight and drove a Dodge Avenger R/T and the gears started turning in my head that I wanted to buy one, but it would be damn nice to see it as a possible SRT-6. I also remember on the Dodge.com website that you could build and price a make-believe Avenger with all kinds of SRT-ish options.

I know you can't comment on future products but, is there anything you can add on this topic?

I would really like to go into great detail on how this process works, but then I'd have to shoot you and never allow any of our engineers to visit the forums again.

But now seriously, there is a very strong process that involves looking at the competition, now and future, looking at our customers (which is exactly what we are doing tonight), and looking at a whole host of other data to come up with an initial list. Then we determine whether we can make something out of the vehicles that made the first cut that lives up to SRT standards and narrow the list further.

And finally, we gather the true CLAN of the SRT ELDERS and pick out our favorites. Oh and yeah, it has to be able to make money too so we can continue to play some more.

Team SRT
04-18-2007, 05:24 PM
Myself personally .... if a 5speed auto was standard and a 7speed was an optional tranny. I would give a fricking kidney for it!! But I am a 99.9 percentile type customer. At the current price range of an SRT8 be it LX or Jeep. I would think around around $900-1200 more retail for a 7speed over a 5speed is reasonable. I think if it got to be much more than $1500 extra for a 7speed it might be harder option to sell to a more "mainstream" customer. Since it is not a tangible option like a sunroof, leather or a upgraded stereo. Maybe we should open the question of price up to everyone??

Visit and Say Hi to Craig at Chuck Paterson Dodge.

DaveW68
04-18-2007, 05:25 PM
A space between the head and intake does help reduce intake charge temps.
Good Luck

The phenolic space actually keeps the manifold significantly cooler than without it. I've seen and felt it myself. This helps to lower the heat soak to the intake, which I imagine would generate more power.

rainmaker
04-18-2007, 05:25 PM
*******Future vehicle considerations post********

I'd consider an AWD Magnum with a 6.1L in it....locking rear diff and upgraded axle shaft included of course. ;)

Team SRT
04-18-2007, 05:26 PM
What is the permanent fix to the cloudy coolant issues?

Maybe lower the next gen GCSRT8.

it would be tough to lower the GC more than it is....you run out of ride travel....

Hemi31
04-18-2007, 05:26 PM
Will the Mopar Performance 6.4 heads bump compression on the 6.1?

Jected
04-18-2007, 05:28 PM
Hi how are you. This has probably been asked many times and flogged to death but is there any way that we, the customer can have or obtain custom tuning on our ECU/PCM to suit new applications to our engines either through dealers or shops.

If not now is there any chance in the future that this will happen?

Thanks in advance.

boomer
04-18-2007, 05:29 PM
any sneak peek pics out there for 08 or 09

Team SRT
04-18-2007, 05:32 PM
Will the Mopar Performance 6.4 heads bump compression on the 6.1?

We will have to get back to you in our next chat session. We do not have anyone here who knows if the chamber volumes are the same.

Team SRT
04-18-2007, 05:32 PM
any sneak peek pics out there for 08 or 09


Working at SRT is too good of a job to risk getting fired by throwing you guys a bone. The most advanced info comes from the most recent major carshow. Sorry, but that's all we can do.

NasaRacer
04-18-2007, 05:33 PM
Visit and Say Hi to Craig at Chuck Paterson Dodge.

I believe I know that guy Craig is the "Service Manager" at Chuck Patterson my ex girlfriend used to work there.

Will you be sending my 7speed there for install/testing??!!! :cool: Might as well send it attached to a 392 as well. Hey a guy can wish can't he??:D

Should I tell Craig who says "Hi"??

stevem
04-18-2007, 05:36 PM
Thanks for taking the time to chat with us....

Are there any plans to retrofit the backup camera on the GC? It's as though the camera lens has spent a weekend with Paris Hilton; kind of blurry, dark, and pixelated.

Team SRT
04-18-2007, 05:37 PM
Hi how are you. This has probably been asked many times and flogged to death but is there any way that we, the customer can have or obtain custom tuning on our ECU/PCM to suit new applications to our engines either through dealers or shops.

If not now is there any chance in the future that this will happen?

Thanks in advance.

This question has came up many times before but the corporate policy here is pretty straight forward - NO. Mopar does offer turbo stage kits for SRT4 (and they're well worth the money) but hasn't got into the electronic throttle control boxes. There are some outside companies that will "tweak" to a custom setup (and some that you can tweak yourself) but we only want to put our name on something we're confident will live in your car.

Team SRT
04-18-2007, 05:38 PM
I believe I know that guy Craig is the "Service Manager" at Chuck Patterson my ex girlfriend used to work there.

Will you be sending my 7speed there for install/testing??!!! :cool: Might as well send it attached to a 392 as well. Hey a guy can wish can't he??:D

Should I tell Craig who says "Hi"??

Craig can tell you who and some war stories.

Team SRT
04-18-2007, 05:38 PM
Thanks for taking the time to chat with us....

Are there any plans to retrofit the backup camera on the GC? It's as though the camera lens has spent a weekend with Paris Hilton; kind of blurry, dark, and pixelated.


Paris used to work as a dev engr in my group......

Blown7
04-18-2007, 05:38 PM
When the GCSRT drivetrain was designed, why wasn't the drivetrain given the option of "FULL ESP OFF" like the JK (Unlimited) has?
I'm sure folks here would like to have that option.
Maybe a idea for the future?

Jeff

Hemi31
04-18-2007, 05:39 PM
Have you guys had any findings on the axle stubs that we are snapping?


And will the 5.7 axle fit our rear to use as a cheap spare just for the purpose of getting home?

Team SRT
04-18-2007, 05:41 PM
Say while your all at it, whom do you consider the market competition for the GC SRT8?

rainmaker
04-18-2007, 05:41 PM
In previous chat sessions you've called out some aftermarket vendors on selling rebadged mopar items; are there any other vendors/products that you've discovered to be fraudulent or we should avoid?

Team SRT
04-18-2007, 05:42 PM
When the GCSRT drivetrain was designed, why wasn't the drivetrain given the option of "FULL ESP OFF" like the JK (Unlimited) has?
I'm sure folks here would like to have that option.
Maybe a idea for the future?

Jeff


We didn't think full off was appropriate for an SUV.

rainmaker
04-18-2007, 05:42 PM
Say while your all at it, whom do you consider the market competition for the GC SRT8?

Trailblazer SS
Landrover Sport
GMC Syclone/Typhoon
Porsche Cayenne

...just to name a few. ;)

SRT8
04-18-2007, 05:43 PM
Say while your all at it, whom do you consider the market competition for the GC SRT8?
TBSS
ML63 AMG

Ironside
04-18-2007, 05:44 PM
In regards to the Caliber SRT-4.

The drivesrt website has been changed and it seems that there is now no mention of the car delivering 300hp. The website use to make reference to that number several times, but now the only performance figure we have is the 260lb-ft of torque.

Now, on top of this, there has been rumours flying around the internet regarding the Caliber not making the horsepower figures that were originally announced.

Is there anything you can tell us about this and how the progress with the SRT-4 is coming along. The last chat I believe it was mentioned that it would be released as a 2008 model year vehicle, is that still on track?

Is this going to be a late availability 2008 thing?

(Us caliber lovers and going CRAZY being left in the dark for so long like this). :D

Team SRT
04-18-2007, 05:45 PM
Have you guys had any findings on the axle stubs that we are snapping?


And will the 5.7 axle fit our rear to use as a cheap spare just for the purpose of getting home?

If you are speaking of LX rear half shafts, they will not live long with numerous shots of Nitrous and the inner joint splines are different between 5.7 and 6.1L shafts.

rainmaker
04-18-2007, 05:45 PM
Not taking any jabs, here but why do you think the aftermarket for GM products is HUGE compared to Mopar? Better yet where do I get in line to complain about that?

ResumeSpeed
04-18-2007, 05:46 PM
Are their any engineers from the audio/telematics section there tonight? In the last session I mentioned that some owners were trying to install the 2007 rear video camera into 2006 WK SRT models. We are using all of the 2007 components, the 2007 nav radio w/rear cam jacks as well as all of the wiring. With everything hooked up exactly as the factory models are wired we cannot get a signal on the screen, nor does the option for turning it on/off appear on the nav menu. What might we be missing, some sort of DRB programming?

Roman371
04-18-2007, 05:47 PM
Again, our recommendation is the text above in red. And, you didn't hear it here, but the part number for the additive might just happen to be 68029698AA.

;)

Thanks for your response. We look forward to 1) a TSB to simplify the explanation process to dealer maintenance, 2) a root cause(?), and 3)a long term fix (if the flush is short term).

Thanks again for the part #.

Team SRT
04-18-2007, 05:48 PM
TBSS
ML63 AMG


Is faster more important than luxury and comfort? Or vice versa?

stevem
04-18-2007, 05:49 PM
I had a few minor suggestions for the new GCSRT8....I would like to see only SRT8 badging, no Jeep badging on things like the gearshift knob, steering wheel, grill etc....

Team SRT
04-18-2007, 05:50 PM
Not taking any jabs, here but why do you think the aftermarket for GM products is HUGE compared to Mopar? Better yet where do I get in line to complain about that?

Unfortunately, there are a lot more of them then us. We like to think it's all about quality, not quantity .......

Team SRT
04-18-2007, 05:50 PM
In regards to the Caliber SRT-4.

The drivesrt website has been changed and it seems that there is now no mention of the car delivering 300hp. The website use to make reference to that number several times, but now the only performance figure we have is the 260lb-ft of torque.

Now, on top of this, there has been rumours flying around the internet regarding the Caliber not making the horsepower figures that were originally announced.

Is there anything you can tell us about this and how the progress with the SRT-4 is coming along. The last chat I believe it was mentioned that it would be released as a 2008 model year vehicle, is that still on track?

Is this going to be a late availability 2008 thing?

(Us caliber lovers and going CRAZY being left in the dark for so long like this). :D

The only thing I can tell you right now is that we are still on the same time track we mentioned last month. The car will launch along with the rest of the 2008 models at its plant. Now obviously, it may take a little while for our small numbers to reach all of our dealers all around the country, but they are coming.

Unfortunately, the PR guys would all go home angry at me if I gave you anymore than this.

wvumike
04-18-2007, 05:50 PM
Is faster more important than luxury and comfort? Or vice versa?

Is this a rhetorical question? If it says SRT, the answer should be performance!!!! Those who want otherwise can buy a Limited.

SilveRT8
04-18-2007, 05:50 PM
Is faster more important than luxury and comfort? Or vice versa?

I'll take fast over comfort anytime
Claude

NasaRacer
04-18-2007, 05:50 PM
Okay I have been called crazy before. But I have a wild idea. Watch this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8maP4CB1Nk

Jeremy Clarkson of Top Gear TV show in Europe. He has always been outspoken about hating "American Cars"

He has really thrown out a challenge. Here is my idea. What if we pooled our brian power and built a specially tuned 300C SRT8 a show promo car and challenged Jeremy Clarkson to a race with his BMW M5. We give them to the "Stig" and run them around their track in England.

We could even do a Right Hand Drive model to apeal to European Market. Where SRTs are sold.

This would be so much fun!! Anyone in Marketing I could approach with this idea??

They do some crazy stuff on Top Gear ... I bet that would love the Idea of "America versus Europe"!!

Blown7
04-18-2007, 05:51 PM
I had a few minor suggestions for the new GCSRT8....I would like to see only SRT8 badging, no Jeep badging on things like the gearshift knob, steering wheel, grill etc....

Thats why I bought it BECAUSE it said Jeep.

It's been in my blood for 30 plus years.


Jeff

Hemi31
04-18-2007, 05:52 PM
Okay I have been called crazy before. But I have a wild idea. Watch this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8maP4CB1Nk

Jeremy Clarkson of Top Gear TV show in Europe. He has always been outspoken about hating "American Cars"

He has really thrown out a challenge. Here is my idea. What if we pooled our brian power and built a specially tuned 300C SRT8 a show promo car and challenged Jeremy Clarkson to a race with his BMW M5. We give them to the "Stig" and run them around their track in England.

We could even do a Right Hand Drive model to apeal to European Market. Where SRTs are sold.

This would be so much fun!! Anyone in Marketing I could approach with this idea??

They do some crazy stuff on Top Gear ... I bet that would love the Idea of "America versus Europe"!!Tell you what.....throw a set of KW's on my Mag and it will spank that Beemer hard!

Team SRT
04-18-2007, 05:52 PM
Is faster more important than luxury and comfort? Or vice versa?


there is nothing better than FASTER......

SRT8
04-18-2007, 05:52 PM
Is faster more important than luxury and comfort? Or vice versa?
Performance comes first then luxury. IMO.

jeep-girl
04-18-2007, 05:53 PM
I know this is a little off topic so feel free to make this low priority. Twice now (just happened again yesterday) when driving my 2007 GCSRT8 I started to leave from a dead stop and the throttle response became very limited/poor. Almost like the jeep didn't want to go over 30mph. The second time I had this occur, I looked down at the instrument panel to find all gear selectors boxed in [P][R][N][D] as if they were all selected. It appears to correct itself if I turn if off and restart. Do you know of any possible causes?


The PRNDL being boxed shows you are in default mode. We will check into this.

cmn1
04-18-2007, 05:54 PM
Is faster more important than luxury and comfort? Or vice versa?
Performance first, comfort/ luxury second. Love beating $100,000 SUVs

PsychoSRT8
04-18-2007, 05:56 PM
as long as we're always on top performance wise i'm happy. quality is great but preformance comes 1st

TheBossHEMI
04-18-2007, 05:56 PM
I know you can't exactly mention future status of any vehicle, very understandable... but are you at least thinking of putting the 6.4 (392) in a production DC vehicle of any kind? Is there one set in mind?

How come there aren't ANY manual transmissions in any offered HEMI vehicle?

Was there a reason why there isn't an LSD rear axle for the GCSRT?

What are mods that YOU would do to your personal GCSRT?

Team SRT
04-18-2007, 05:57 PM
Tell you what.....throw a set of KW's on my Mag and it will spank that Beemer hard!

Touche go get 'em.

Team SRT
04-18-2007, 05:57 PM
Are their any engineers from the audio/telematics section there tonight? In the last session I mentioned that some owners were trying to install the 2007 rear video camera into 2006 WK SRT models. We are using all of the 2007 components, the 2007 nav radio w/rear cam jacks as well as all of the wiring. With everything hooked up exactly as the factory models are wired we cannot get a signal on the screen, nor does the option for turning it on/off appear on the nav menu. What might we be missing, some sort of DRB programming?

No audio/telematics experts, but... the 2006 vehicle CAN architecture doesn't support rear camera, and certain critical modules (beyond the radio) don't support the commands for the radio to show the backup camera. By updating these other modules to get camera you'd end-up with a ton of other vehicle systems that stop working.
Summary - it won't work. Our advice is to look as some of the aftermarket backup cameras.

Team SRT
04-18-2007, 05:58 PM
Tell you what.....throw a set of KW's on my Mag and it will spank that Beemer hard!

Jeremy's a wuss.......

Team SRT
04-18-2007, 06:00 PM
I know you can't exactly mention future status of any vehicle, very understandable... but are you at least thinking of putting the 6.4 (392) in a production DC vehicle of any kind? Is there one set in mind?

How come there aren't ANY manual transmissions in any offered HEMI vehicle?

Was there a reason why there isn't an LSD rear axle for the GCSRT?

What are mods that YOU would do to your personal GCSRT?

You're right, I can't. But take my word for it - stay tuned.

TheBossHEMI
04-18-2007, 06:01 PM
Sorry for the multi questions... manual transmission? Not for future cars, but it MUST have been addressed for the current models. What was the discussion and or deciding factors for doing away with the option?

Gnat Turner
04-18-2007, 06:01 PM
Say while your all at it, whom do you consider the market competition for the GC SRT8?

Trailblazer SS (Sounds strange but it's true. This is where that towing issue rears its ugly head).

BMW X5 4.8i

Subaru Forester XT (STi)

Porsche Cayenne Turbo

Mercedes ML63

Team SRT
04-18-2007, 06:01 PM
Well, its that time again darn it, but we have to go so we can come back again. We want to thank you sincerely for all of your great ideas, and I promise you they will make a difference. Good night and enjoy the ride.

ResumeSpeed
04-18-2007, 06:02 PM
Well, its that time again darn it, but we have to go so we can come back again. We want to thank you sincerely for all of your great ideas, and I promise you they will make a difference. Good night and enjoy the ride.
GREAT session, THANK YOU very very much!

DanDE
04-18-2007, 06:02 PM
Thanks for answering my previous post.

Perhaps you guys will find this useful. I had a '99(?) 5.9 (knocked like an SOB), went to an '02 4.7 and then an '03 BMW 4.6is to see if you get what you pay for. Was so disappointed with BMW for the money got back into an '05 5.7 'cause the SRT wasn't out yet. Loved it. Now I have my SRT. It is a better vehicle in almost every way and A GREAT VALUE. You need to keep doing the things you're doing (including many of the suggestions seen here) and keep the value component (somehow still making money). What a great feeling that gives me to drive this thing.

HEMEEE
04-18-2007, 06:05 PM
Thanks again Guys, see ya next month!