My right rear has a nail about 2 inches from the edge. I started to pull it out, but it started to leak. I thought that these tires are self-sealing, but did not want to risk it.

What are my best options? Can these tires be patched?

Go to the dealer or find a good tire shop?

They are Run Flat not self sealing.They must be replaced

My right rear has a nail about 2 inches from the edge. I started to pull it out, but it started to leak. I thought that these tires are self-sealing, but did not want to risk it.

What are my best options? Can these tires be patched?

Go to the dealer or find a good tire shop?

I work on construction sites. As a result, I've gotten three flats in the past three months. If you've got money to burn, buy a new tire. If your down-to-earth like me then get it patched.

I'd call around and make sure the tire shop will repair it before leaving the house, it's hit or miss.

Good luck,

Anthony

MY preference would be for the umbrella or mushroom shaped plug as it is less likely to be pulled out and leak flat again. However, this requires removing and remounting the tire and then you risk damage to the rim. Sucks to catch a nail - good luck.

I found a nail recently as well. I haven't had it repaired yet, yet it probably is as good a seal as a plug since there is no leaking.
Can someone clarify the run flat. If your tire has been punctured then the air is released, so are we simply driving on our wheel with a flat tire? Wouldn't that damage the wheel? I am a little confused.

What I found at Tire Rack:

Today there are three technologies used as Original Equipment on vehicles to help maintain vehicle mobility when a tire is punctured. They are self-sealing tires, self-supporting tires and tires supported by an auxiliary system.

Self-Sealing

Self-sealing tires are designed to fix most tread-area punctures instantly and permanently. These tires feature standard tire construction with the exception of an extra lining inside the tire under the tread area that's coated with a puncture sealant that can permanently seal most punctures from nails, bolts or screws up to 3/16 of an inch in diameter. These tires first provide a seal around the object when the tire is punctured and then fill in the hole in the tread when the object is removed. Because these tires are designed to seal the tire immediately upon being punctured, most drivers will never even know that they just had a puncture. Also because these tires feature standard tire constructions, the traditional loss-of-air symptoms that accompany a flat tire remain to warn the driver if the tire is damaged beyond repair. Therefore, self-sealing tires do not require a low air pressure warning system.

Example: Continental ContiSeal.

Self-Supporting

Self-supporting tires feature a stiffer internal construction, which is capable of temporarily carrying the weight of the vehicle, even after the tire has lost all air pressure. To provide "self-supporting" capability, these tires typically attach rubber inserts next to or between layers of heat-resistant cord in their sidewalls to help prevent breaking the reinforcing cords in the event of loss of air pressure. They also feature specialized beads that allow the tire to firmly grip current Original Equipment and aftermarket wheels even in the event of air loss. Because self-supporting tires are so good at masking the traditional loss-of-air symptoms that accompany a flat tire, they require a tire pressure monitoring system to alert the driver that they have lost air pressure. Without such a system, the driver may not notice underinflation and may inadvertently cause additional tire damage by failing to inflate or repair the tire at the first opportunity. Typically, self-supporting tires maintain vehicle mobility for 50 miles at speeds up to 55 mph.

Examples: Bridgestone RFT (Run Flat Tire), Dunlop DSST (Dunlop Self-Supporting Technology), Firestone RFT (Run Flat Tire), Goodyear EMT (Extended Mobility Technology), Kumho XRP, Michelin ZP (Zero Pressure), Pirelli RFT (Run Flat Technology) and Yokohama Run Flat.

Auxiliary Supported Run Flat Systems

Auxiliary supported systems combine unique wheels and tires used for Original Equipment vehicle applications. In these systems, the flat tire's tread rests on a support ring attached to the wheel when the tire loses pressure. The advantage to this type of system is that it will place most of the mechanical task of providing run flat capability on the wheel (which typically doesn't wear out or need to be replaced), and minimizes the responsibility of the tire (which does periodically wear out and requires replacement). Additionally, auxiliary support systems promise better ride quality because their sidewall's stiffness can be equivalent to today's standard tires. The disadvantage to auxiliary supported systems is that their unique wheels will not accept standard tires and that their lower volume will make this type of system more expensive.

Example: Michelin's PAX System wheels and tires

It is too early to confirm which system, if any, will be widely accepted by vehicle manufacturers and consumers in the future.

So we have the self supporting, right?

I believe you are correct!

I believe you are correct! All this tire info is great. One thing has never come though, and as my order is for an 07, I don't have a manual . The question is are you guys rotating your tires on a side to side bases on any kind of scuedule?

All this tire info is great. One thing has never come though, and as my order is for an 07, I don't have a manual . The question is are you guys rotating your tires on a side to side bases on any kind of scuedule?

No rotating these babies-they are directional plus the fronts and rears are different sizes.

Simply accrue $400 per month for rubber.

This allows for lotz of smokin' and nails and new tires every 4 months.

well, I know that the tires are different sizes on the front and rear, however that does make the rotation impossible on a side to side switch if one is willing to remove tires from the rim unless your saying that they manufacture a left and right tire somehow.So is it worth it to go to that expense? I don't know and has anyone botherd to do it?

Hey Guys,

Simple solution, if you live in an area serviced by Discount Tire (or America's Tire), the largest tire retailer in the USA, go buy their warranty "Certificates".

I stopped on the way home from the Dealer, bought "Certs" for all four tires for $220. Full replacement down to 2/32 of tread for any reason. If for nothing else other than "peace of mind", a worthwhile investment !

I could be wrong, but I don't believe that Goodyear RS-A's, even the EMT Versions (Run Flats) are "Directional", so, in theory could go from side to side at least, but that won't buy you much additional life and may actually cause noise problems in my experience.

jst2
06GC SRT8 5600 miles Strong

Just got the nail patched at a local specialty shop for $20. :D He had the right equipment and did a great job. He owns a Typhoo and is interested in the GC SRT8.

He confirmed that they are not unidirection, and can be "rotated" by swapping sides L-R.

Anyone done this yet? I am up to 2100 miles, far short of the recommended 6000 miles for a rotation.

I woke up yesterday to a flat myself &^@$%*@$^%@($^%@($
only 300+ miles on it and already I got Nailed #%^@#*$%(@#%%
AND MAN THE NAIL WAS HUGE TOO :(

Someone mentioned we have a wrrnty on the tires from Goodyear, is that true ? Either way I did as mentioned and went and had it de-rimmed and patched from both the inside and out.
($20.00) Mine was a nice clean hole about mid of tire so no prob or safety issue patching it as far as I'm concerned.
Hell I drove around doing over 150 MPH with my Lightning rear tire having 6 plugs in it :eek: , hehehehehe
Unfortunately the side of the same tire got a little slit in it somehow too, maybe I ran something over ??? but nothing to worry about other than I know it's there. DAM I HAVE BAD LUCK WITH TIRES
How much do these puppies cost anyway ?

there would be no point in rotating side to side unless the srt8 only moves ONE rear wheel.

Our tires will set us back over $300 each!!!:eek:

That's why mine have gotten three patches in the past 5 months. :D


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I was driving home from the dealer on the day I bought the GCSRT (3 miles):eek: and the left rear "ran flat" - got sliced by something inthe road.

Bottom line, a Goodyear dealer replaced the tire for free. I inquired about a road hazard warranty and they told me it was basically useless for the run flats. They already have a lifetime warranty, based on wear. They did NOT recommend pluging "most" leaks in these tires. In my case, a slice, no repiar was possible.

So do we our don't we rotate our tires? Why not swap left to right if it buys you another 5,000 miles or whatever it might be? What tires are everyone moving onto after the OEMs are toasted?

there would be no point in rotating side to side unless the srt8 only moves ONE rear wheel.

Because tires wear unevenly whether they're drive tires or not.

Alex

So do we our don't we rotate our tires? Why not swap left to right if it buys you another 5,000 miles or whatever it might be? What tires are everyone moving onto after the OEMs are toasted?

A tire dealer told me long ago that once a tire begins to wear in a certain direction, that it should not be switched to the other side of the car and rotate in the opposite direction. He said once wear has begun, treat it like a directional tire -->. Is this true?

IThey already have a lifetime warranty, based on wear.

There is a warranty based on wear, but it only covers the first year after purchase. After that.....you're on your own.

A tire dealer told me long ago that once a tire begins to wear in a certain direction, that it should not be switched to the other side of the car and rotate in the opposite direction. He said once wear has begun, treat it like a directional tire -->. Is this true?
I have always rotated my tires,even uni directionals like F1 EAGLES, The tire shop didn't like to me see coming b/c they would have to break the tires off and swap sides. As far as the GC goes I am moving right side to left side & left to right to balance out any wear patterns which will happen especially on the fronts. Really not sure why the tire shop would tell you that about wear patterns(maybe thats an effort to sale more tires):)

I used to be in the tire biz a few years back. I was a regional sales manager, regional distibution manager, warehouse manager, specialty tire sales/service rep (Drag-race, tractor, and heavy equipment tires) and warranty adjuster. I was also factory trained by Goodyear, Bridgestone, and Coats, on tire mounting, balancing, and repairs.

Any tire can be safely repaired for a puncture in the tread area, if the puncture in (generally) less than 1/4" in diameter. A tire is not repairable if the damage is anything other than a small circular puncture (think of a nail or screw), if the damage is in the tread margin (right at the edge of the tread area), or in the sidewall area.

When most passenger car tires were of the bias-ply type of construction, plugs were the repair method of choice for most tire shops. The use of plugs doesn't require the removal of the tire from the rim, and in the bias-ply tire era, didn't cause too much of a balancing/vibration issue.

With the advent of radial tire construction, the use of steel belts to reinforce tire tread areas became the norm. Most tires, and all tires on new cars, are equipped with steel belted radial tires. While some repair shops still use plugs to repair punctures in these tires, there can be problems with vibration, even though the tire and wheel are balanced properly. More often than not, the integrity of the steel belt is compromised by the plug installation process, and the belt becomes somewhat distorted, resulting in a, more or less, out of round condition that balancing will not resolve.

Keep in mind that most tire manufacturers recommend that plugs be used only as emergency repairs, and that if your tire has been repaired with a plug, it should be replaced as soon as possible. You should also limit your speed and check the air pressure often until the plug-repaired tire is replaced.

As a side note, keep this in mind: Most tire failures are caused by under-inflation/over-loading, which generates excessive heat in the sidewall area, which then fails. The biggest factor in under-inflated tires is a lack of routine pressure checks, or not increasing the pressure for an increased vehicle load, not leakage due to a puncture. Fully 75% or more of the tires I examined for warranty failures had sidewall failures with no evidence of puncture or impact damage. They simply didn't have enough air in them, over-heated, and failed.

The moral to all this is; patch repairs are fine, check your tire pressures frequently, and adjust your tire pressure based on vehicle load.

I live in Edmonton Canada and have just bought 2 GRC SRT8's. We get some pretty severe weather here in the winter. Has anyone found snow tires for these vehicles?

You may want to start a new thread, this on is dated and about flats...

You may want to start a new thread, this on is dated and about flats...

Sorry. I'm new at this and inexperienced as well as "older"! I'll get my son to teach me more about the posting etc. Sure glad to have this knowledge base.
Thanks for the tip!

Kids are good for that! Good luck in finding the right tires. I know I have seen some videos of SRT8's in the snow doing pretty good...