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: Push Button Start / Keyless Entry (proximity)


evo J
02-05-2010, 01:50 PM
Did the GCSRT8 ever come with these two options? I just got a 2010 and those are the two only option missing from the truck, that i wish it had. A friend said he's seen it on the 08-09 models.

http://wkjeeps.com/wk_srt8_features.htm

This website says the features were canceled for 2010. Canceled from previous models or production in whole?

Thanks.

AaronZ34
02-05-2010, 01:51 PM
My 10 has them...

evo J
02-05-2010, 01:55 PM
My 10 has them...

stock or aftermarket???

AaronZ34
02-05-2010, 02:03 PM
Stock, thought that went without saying...

I've got a button on my 'key', push it twice and the car starts. A different button, push it once doors unlock.

squigmang
02-05-2010, 02:06 PM
I cant believe they got rid of that??!!! if they did?

bee3633
02-05-2010, 02:07 PM
Yea Thats All The 10's Have Remote Start No Push Button.

QuickOne
02-05-2010, 02:10 PM
He's talking about push button start in the vehicle. No key slot to put the key FOB. Only a button. Also proximity unlock is having the key in your pocket, and when you get within "proximity" of the vehicle, it unlocks. Essentially never needing to take the key out of your pocket.

Rumor has it, it's planned for WK2!

AaronZ34
02-05-2010, 02:13 PM
Ok ok, my mistake. Yah mine doesn't have those, wasn't an option.

evo J
02-05-2010, 02:17 PM
He's talking about push button start in the vehicle. No key slot to put the key FOB. Only a button. Also proximity unlock is having the key in your pocket, and when you get within "proximity" of the vehicle, it unlocks. Essentially never needing to take the key out of your pocket.

Rumor has it, it's planned for WK2!

That's what i was talking about, i would have loved those two options in the 2010, oh well, still love the beast.

AaronZ34
02-05-2010, 02:19 PM
The push button start would be really easy to setup, the car pretty much is push button. Just move the key location, and install a push button. You would still need your key in there, but it'd have a button!

a990dna
02-05-2010, 02:26 PM
What's the attraction to push button start? I think they suck... I've driven enough rental cars to know I don't like it. The push button is on the key fob... that's good enough.

Part of owning a muscle car is living with basic needs... the CGSRT is already beyond that. :rolleyes:

If you want to push buttons, buy a '64 Plymouth Savoy Race Hemi.

AaronZ34
02-05-2010, 02:29 PM
You consider the SRT8 a muscle car? Have you like, turned the steering wheel, or pressed the brakes? I drove a 68 Camaro long enough to know my Jeep would absolutely destroy it in every category, gas mileage included.

I take that back, every category but one, exterior sexiness.

a990dna
02-05-2010, 02:37 PM
You consider the SRT8 a muscle car?

yes i do... modern muscle. As close as you're going to get off the showroom this day in age...

Camaro?.. POS pony car. Take a '64-65 Race Hemi for a drive.

Rambit
02-05-2010, 02:51 PM
I saw both those options on an 09 test mule I had a ride in. They were supposed to make it for the 2009's, but the SRT engineer told me they were cancelled.

If you look closely you can see the chrome door handles for the close proximity. I think I may have a pic of the push start somewhere too.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a10/Rambit/Jeep-4Jun08-105.jpg

Bernie

wink
02-05-2010, 03:02 PM
I miss the push button start... My Infiniti had it and I never had to pull out my key. Didn't have proximity unlock though. There was a button on the drivers door handle and rear hatch to lock/unlock. Always paired with my phone too, so it never left my pocket either. MyGig...works when it wants to :mad:

The 2011 GC's have push button start, but not sure about proximity.

wink

Rambit
02-05-2010, 03:17 PM
Well my bike has close proximity start.:D

Bernie

bee3633
02-05-2010, 05:11 PM
Well my bike has close proximity start.:D

Bernie

R o f l And push button start

evo J
02-05-2010, 05:54 PM
Would love to see where they were going to put the push start button, too bad they didn't go through with it.

Definitly don't need all those things but would be nice to just keep the key in your pocket, suit case or bag and get in and going with out looking for it. I would choose 20 hp more than those options but why not both, hahahaha.

supabusa
02-05-2010, 09:36 PM
Yeah my Ram SRT10 had one but what a crazy idea on that. You still had to put the key in the ignition and turn it. Then you could push the button.
I love the one in my Challenger. Just get in, push the button, and go. Pull up to the store, get out, go in and get what you need with the car still running with no fear of anyone taking it.

king
02-05-2010, 10:29 PM
yep, cool idea. I have it in my xkr, and it is convenient. I tried to find a work around on this for the rig, but with no luck, unless you swap the CPU with a SRT8 that already has it (and they don't make one yet).

ougijoe
02-05-2010, 10:58 PM
They were cancelled due to the bankruptcy, the factories shutting down for 8 months, and the lack of time for the changeover from 09 to 10.

They will be on the WK2.

ResumeSpeed
02-06-2010, 02:35 AM
They were cancelled due to the bankruptcy, the factories shutting down for 8 months, and the lack of time for the changeover from 09 to 10.
Nothing to do with the bankruptcy or changeover time, the feature was originally planned for the 2009 models and was put in to many of the pre-production models for testing. There were still glitches to iron out and hence was delayed and eventually cancelled.

bee3633
02-06-2010, 04:39 AM
Nothing to do with the bankruptcy or changeover time, the feature was originally planned for the 2009 models and was put in to many of the pre-production models for testing. There were still glitches to iron out and hence was delayed and eventually cancelled.


Thier you go straight from the man himself.

2quic4u
03-25-2010, 10:43 PM
i know if you hold the unlock button, the front window will go down half way i believe.

immo
03-26-2010, 02:43 AM
The Challenger has it, so I'm sure you could add it if you REALLY wanted to. But to me it's seems more trouble than it's worth. My wife's truck has it and the only time it is useful is when your arms are full off stuff. Plus it is nice not having to dig the key out to start the car.

scoutermike
03-26-2010, 04:31 PM
The Challenger has it, so I'm sure you could add it if you REALLY wanted to. But to me it's seems more trouble than it's worth. My wife's truck has it and the only time it is useful is when your arms are full off stuff. Plus it is nice not having to dig the key out to start the car.

I do want it and have looked into it. Even have the right part numbers. You need 2 new FOBIK's, WIN, PEM, proximity door handles, wiring, and 2 antennas. Main problem is the cost and the computer in the truck hasn't the software to run it. SRT engineers have said it can't be added.

Mike

AaronZ34
03-26-2010, 06:47 PM
SRT engineers have said it can't be added.
*rolleyes*

That's ridiculous, of course it can be added. Not saying it'd be easy, but certainly not impossible.

scoutermike
03-26-2010, 08:36 PM
*rolleyes*

That's ridiculous, of course it can be added. Not saying it'd be easy, but certainly not impossible.

Show me one person that has done it.

lewylew11
03-26-2010, 09:02 PM
I think it could be added too. I was told that I could not add remote start to my 08 Challenger,which has the push button start, but did. I found the part #'s on Challenger forum and gave them to my dealer. They told me again it would not work. I just told them to order them and reprogram with starscan. Of course it worked. All I needed for that was hood switch and key fobs.

AaronZ34
03-26-2010, 09:06 PM
So if no one has had everything required to do it, it can't be done? I'm not saying it's easy, you need a variety of skills and resources that most people, and especially most here, don't have. But it apparently can be done, if they did it on the Challenger. What's the difference? AWD?

Remember folks, if something hasn't been done, it can't be done. Tell that to NASA.

AaronZ34
03-26-2010, 09:13 PM
It's ignorant people like you that drive this world, really. Because you drive the creative to do stuff you don't think is possible. Then they do it. I can't tell you how many times I was told that a 16 year old high school student can't build to fit long tube, equal length headers on a Lumina Z34, which has one of the most cramped engine bays I've ever seen. Then I was told how I can't fit the same engine in a Fiero, with long tube equal length headers, a custom equal length Y-pipe, a Garrett T4 turbo, a full 4" cold air intake, and a complete engine bay mounted air to water intercooler with it.

You can't. I can. And I'm damn near ready to do this, just to show how fvcking stupid you are. The Challenger is essentially the same car as the JGC. (I'm ready for you to tell me how they aren't even close because one is an SUV). The differences in the car are mechanical, and make absolutely no difference in this system. The reason the GC doesn't have it is simple, it costs money. The same reason we don't have the headlight washers we were supposed to.

Rambit
03-26-2010, 09:46 PM
For whatever reason both close proximity and push button start were cancelled for the 09's, but it has been done and I've seen it in person on a test mule. ResumeSpeed compiled a list of the required parts and I'll see if I can hunt them down.

June 4 2008...

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a10/Rambit/Jeep-4Jun08-09.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a10/Rambit/Jeep-4Jun08-48.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a10/Rambit/Jeep-4Jun08-14.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a10/Rambit/Jeep-4Jun08-90.jpg

Bernie

AaronZ34
03-26-2010, 10:01 PM
You're clearly wrong, it hasn't been done before, so it can't be done. scoutermike said so. Those pictures are just photoshopped. Duh.

lewylew11
03-26-2010, 10:11 PM
Somebody please figure this out. I was thinking all that would need to be changed is the WIN for the push button start to work. I have know idea about the passive entry. Aaron let us know when you get this working.

Rambit
03-26-2010, 10:16 PM
Somebody please figure this out. I was thinking all that would need to be changed is the WIN for the push button start to work. I have know idea about the passive entry. Aaron let us know when you get this working.
I see no reason why this wouldn't also apply to our Jeeps...

02-19-2009
YES, it can be done for 2008-2009 300C/300CSRT's http://www.300cforums.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif

It involves purchasing a new WIN module, new Chrysler key fobs (4-button or the 5-button with remote start), a Passive Entry Module, start button, and a couple of Chrysler low frequency antennas. A little wiring is involved. One antenna is installed under the rear seat with a pair of wires running to the dash behind the glove box. At that location the second antenna is installed and wired to the Passive module. The Passive module needs to be wired to the CaN Bus (+ and -), and also to power and ground. To make it all work, a dealer has to do some programming for the new Fobik's, and Passive module. You might be looking at $500-$600 in parts alone...

Bernie

scoutermike
03-27-2010, 06:29 AM
Get a grip Aaron. We are discussing parts and Jeeps and you are calling us ignorant and stupid. Go ahead and prove it works.
Bernie is correct. Chrysler had tested it. I know, I work there. All I'm saying is no one has retrofitted this into a Jeep.

ram_g
03-27-2010, 08:36 AM
In addition to the discussion around adapting existing Chrysler parts to work in the Jeep, there are numerous aftermarket pushbutton start solutions - some perform just the start function and others include door opening proximity systems, etc.

See for example:

http://www.flamingriver.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=results/category_id=226/home_id=226/mode=cat/cat226.htm

or

http://www.digitalguarddawg.com/2GOKEYLESS1.html

or

http://www.inglewoodct.us/StreetWorks/New_Prods_2010.html

So if someone really wanted proximity open and push button start in their Jeep or in any other car for that matter, it can be done.

Rambit
03-27-2010, 09:49 AM
I think this is the Passive Entry Module we need. RS did say there was some wiring needed.:D

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a10/Rambit/Jeep-4Jun08-80.jpg

Bernie

ASLEEPER
03-27-2010, 10:50 AM
Not sure I'd want the system as it stands at this point. I was watching an episode of BBC's Top Gear where the boys were on a road trip & Hammond had the Challenger. Clarkson decided to play a trick on Hammond when they had stopped at a diner for a bite to eat. While the other two guys were eating, Clarkson went out to the Chally that Hammond had left unlocked so Clarkson got in, started it & parked it out on the street. Of course after their meal, they came out & Hammond was quite sure he hadn't parked the car there. It was a great prank but I don't think I'd want the car that available for unauthorized use. This is assuming the whole thing hadn't been staged for the show. I also wonder what distance the car could go before it realized you didn't have the key in your pocket.

immo
03-27-2010, 12:30 PM
Check out these threads

http://www.lxforums.com/board/showthread.php?t=197158&highlight=Push+button+start

http://www.lxforums.com/board/showthread.php?t=197091&highlight=Push+button+start

http://www.lxforums.com/board/showthread.php?t=194014&highlight=Push+button+start

KANOA
03-27-2010, 12:46 PM
Not sure I'd want the system as it stands at this point. I was watching an episode of BBC's Top Gear where the boys were on a road trip & Hammond had the Challenger. Clarkson decided to play a trick on Hammond when they had stopped at a diner for a bite to eat. While the other two guys were eating, Clarkson went out to the Chally that Hammond had left unlocked so Clarkson got in, started it & parked it out on the street. Of course after their meal, they came out & Hammond was quite sure he hadn't parked the car there. It was a great prank but I don't think I'd want the car that available for unauthorized use. This is assuming the whole thing hadn't been staged for the show. I also wonder what distance the car could go before it realized you didn't have the key in your pocket.

I have a G37 and if you are not in the drivers seat it won't start. I would say it has less than a 2 foot distance to start same with the doors, my wife can't unlock the pass side if I have the remote in my pocket while on the drivers side.

jpaine
03-27-2010, 07:29 PM
These were both scheduled to be part of the 2010 options along with a few others that I don't recall, but were scraped. I'm sure due to Jeep/Chrysler $$$$ cuts, and basically just trying to stay alive.

ASLEEPER
03-27-2010, 08:10 PM
They mentioned on the show that the system wasn't really sophisticated so the G37's system is probably more secure.

I have a G37 and if you are not in the drivers seat it won't start. I would say it has less than a 2 foot distance to start same with the doors, my wife can't unlock the pass side if I have the remote in my pocket while on the drivers side.

dodgeboy16
03-27-2010, 09:22 PM
Did the GCSRT8 ever come with these two options? I just got a 2010 and those are the two only option missing from the truck, that i wish it had. A friend said he's seen it on the 08-09 models.

http://wkjeeps.com/wk_srt8_features.htm

This website says the features were canceled for 2010. Canceled from previous models or production in whole?

Thanks.

No none of the 2010s have either of these features. They were supposed to but they were canceled as were a few other things like the Rear DVD Player etc.




Jack

AaronZ34
03-28-2010, 05:28 PM
Get a grip Aaron. We are discussing parts and Jeeps and you are calling us ignorant and stupid. Go ahead and prove it works.
Bernie is correct. Chrysler had tested it. I know, I work there. All I'm saying is no one has retrofitted this into a Jeep.
We aren't just discussing parts and Jeeps, we are also discussing the process (Labor involved), and the vehicles the system came on factory. I'm calling you ignorant and stupid, because, well, you are. Or at least you're talking like it. You clearly said it cannot be done. It clearly can be done, someone has shown you one that has it done already. And reading the post a few up, it actually doesn't seem very difficult at all, main thing is parts and the cost of parts.

Main problem is the cost and the computer in the truck (http://www.cherokeesrt8.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37549&page=3#) hasn't the software to run it. SRT engineers have said it can't be added.

I'm not sure how you can interpret that as meaning it can be done.

Chrysler needs janitors too apparently, because you certainly don't do anything that involves thinking out of the box.

scoutermike
03-29-2010, 06:02 AM
Now you've done it Aaron.

Ur off my Christmas card list!

the1stkim
03-30-2010, 02:53 PM
http://www.auto-hub.com/stardrive_push_start_ignition.html

supabusa
03-30-2010, 03:25 PM
Nice find. To bad it's not recommended for vehicles with remote starts.