Alright guys, some of the people on my street are complaining that me and my friends cars are to loud and are waking up there kids (HAHA i call bs). Last week we got a letter from the neighborhood assoication saying a couple people have complained about the cars being to loud and "disturbing the quietness/peacefulness of the neighborhood"(HAHA). Today my friend Cody w/ a stick mustang gt and James w/ a cammed mustang gt came over to help me install my fogs. My friend James who is just learning how to drive stick drove down my street and back about 25/30mph for a little practice. 2 neighbors from down the street came down and started complaining and said our cars are to loud and they dont like hearing them and they have kids and we drive 2 fast which is total bs. Im sick and tired of it all. We all stay out of trouble and are very hard working young people. I really love the sound of my Borla/Kooks setup but being the nice guy that I am to make my neighbors happy I am strongly thining about getting DHM cutouts and deleting my resonators on my Borla:D Guys I need some advice and personal stories on what you guys do to handle it. My parents are cool with me and my friends and understand we are all young and like loud cars. when my dad was 20 (my age) he had a z-28 camaro with uncapped headers so he understands. they support us 100% because they know we dont fly down the street and are always extra careful around kids. So let me know your thoughts and help me out!!

Thanks Andrew

Fook em. They cant do **** to you. Just take it easy down the streets.

Although you may be different than me, I have no respect for my neighbors. LOLz

You need to schedule a meeting with the head of the HOA, be VERY COOL about this do NOT get pissy or ugly with him/her. I would suggest taking them for a ride and simulate exactly how you leave/enter the addition so they can also see first hand what your side of the story is. I would also look over your PUD/HOA bylaws and see if you are violating or within guidelines for noise/nuisance and possibly find any other noises in the addition that are just as loud, ie.trash truck, lawn mowers and so on. I would be sure to tell them you sympathize with their concerns and by no means are you deliberately making unneccasry noise on purpose. If you are within the legal rights to have your car modded as such then point that out but do so in a nice way. This is why I will NEVER live in a PUD addition.

Really in all honesty noise issues are a matter of opinion, ones "Thats too loud" is anothers "I can barely hear that". What I am trying to tell you is there is really nothing they can do about it BUT at least show you talked to the head of the HOA, recognized their concerns and given the cost you have put out there on your jeep it is not economically feasable for you to make your jeep quiter. They could try and sue you but most likely arbitration will be the route

I'm lucky I got a cool Harley guy next door, maybe some cutouts and modifying your exhaust might make everyone happy

Community associations are required by the DEP to provide forums like ADR to its members. This type of resolution is a voluntary agreement among parties to agree to terms that are hopefully mutually beneficial—or at least tolerable. There are two types of ADR hearings available: mediation and arbitration. The DEP defines them as follows:

Mediation involves the affected parties developing a joint resolution of the problem and agreeing on a future course of action. The Office of Dispute Resolution acts as an impartial third party to help the parties explore options for resolution that may not previously have been considered. The majority of mediations handled by the Office of Dispute Resolution are matters that have already been contested and are scheduled for either an administrative hearing or a trial.

Arbitration is a formal fact-finding process in which the arbiter can render a judgment on the issues. This judgment can be binding or non-binding. The Office of Dispute Resolution does not engage in arbitration, but can help select qualified arbiters should the parties choose this course.

As far as noise-related conflicts are concerned, "There is no independent determination as to whether or not it is actually noisy," says Bynre, "so the ADR mediation option exists for people to get together to see if they can work out an arrangement that will make their lives easier. For example, I may not agree that my TV is too loud, but I may agree not to watch it after 11 o' clock; I may not agree that my dog is too loud, but I will agree to keep him upstairs at night - that sort of thing."

Often, the arbiter or mediator in an ADR hearing is a volunteer - possibly someone from the community or building. If no one volunteers, then someone would have to be hired. Byrne also stresses that community associations are not required to resolve disputes, or to go to court on either party's behalf. "All the association has to do is to provide a forum in which people can come together to try to work things out. If it doesn't work out," he says. "People are free to go to court to try to settle it."

In the event that the municipality itself is the culprit, the appropriate action would again be to call the police. The town or county certainly must obey its own noise ordinances. The Department of Community Affairs (DCA) has little authority over noise regulation.

"The DCA has the power to force the association to provide ADR, but they do not have the power to go after a noisy neighbor," says Byrne. "If regular people can't live with each other, DCA doesn't have the power to keep people quiet."

Fook em. They cant do **** to you. Just take it easy down the streets.

Although you may be different than me, I have no respect for my neighbors. LOLz

haha I agreee 100%, I would understand if we played music really loud or drove really fast or even if i came home really late everynight. but thats not the case i think they are just hating bc our cars are nicer than theres. who know, we will see what happens

You need to schedule a meeting with the head of the HOA, be VERY COOL about this do NOT get pissy or ugly with him/her. I would suggest taking them for a ride and simulate exactly how you leave/enter the addition so they can also see first hand what your side of the story is. I would also look over your PUD/HOA bylaws and see if you are violating or within guidelines for noise/nuisance and possibly find any other noises in the addition that are just as loud, ie.trash truck, lawn mowers and so on. I would be sure to tell them you sympathize with their concerns and by no means are you deliberately making unneccasry noise on purpose. If you are within the legal rights to have your car modded as such then point that out but do so in a nice way. This is why I will NEVER live in a PUD addition.

Really in all honesty noise issues are a matter of opinion, ones "Thats too loud" is anothers "I can barely hear that". What I am trying to tell you is there is really nothing they can do about it BUT at least show you talked to the head of the HOA, recognized their concerns and given the cost you have put out there on your jeep it is not economically feasable for you to make your jeep quiter. They could try and sue you but most likely arbitration will be the route

thanks Wade for the advice,but to make things even better we know and are really close/cool with just about every cop in our area. they know us and would probly laugh and send the neighbors back home and tell them to mind there own business.

Thanks every1 for all the help/advice. keep it up!!

Good luck with your neighbors. The other day I was talking to my neighbor and he was asking why I am going to work early. I asked how he knew that. He said he always hears me turning on the jeep or the bike every morning. I try to leave the house as quiet as I can. I don't have any complaints yet. Just try to take it easy leaving your neighborhood and hopefully they will take it easy on you.

Well if you got the cops on your side, I wouldn't worry about a thing.

All you'll have then is neighbors who complain.

Just watch out for your Jeep. They may try to key it.

Wade is on the spot. I agree with him, and just be cool.

Or be a d!ck and make it louder :D

haha thanks Joe, its in the garage and that would probly be the worst possible thing they coud do. I have about 60 people with cars that make my jeep sound quiet, that would all be making daily visits to my house making as much noise as possible.

I don't think they can do anything as long as your not screwing around late at night when everyones sleeping between like 10pm and 5am. Do you have a db limit on exhausts? Ours here is like 95db

Im not sure about the db limit. and how loud would you say 95db is? is there something that is comparable?

Wade pretty much said it all. Just keep a cool head about you when talking to anyone who may have a complaint.

I'd say the magnaflow or stock exhaust, no one here really cares about it unless its a Honda lol 95db is not at all loud. Those people are probably just wanting something to complain about. But like central said maube have those people come out and show them what you do

Oh one more thing, now your gonna get complaints about your bright HID lights-LOL

When I was young, I was the kid that made all the noise in the neighborhood. The neighbors never complained... I ran open headers on my cars once in awhile. I had 2-stroke MX bikes for years... in those days we ran open expansion chambers and I would wheelie up and down the street.

It's obvious your neighbors don't know what noise is....

Oh one more thing, now your gonna get complaints about your bright HID lights-LOL

haha I hope I do lol, but I am also going to extra special attention to every1 of them. The neighbor association is going to be extra busy for a while, because im going to get a copy of the deed restrictions. I am going to look for anything wrong from trash cans not being out of sight to the grass not being cut weekly or a car being parked on the street, to everything. Instead of getting mad about it all, im going to make it fun. I hate complaining about stupid stuff bc life is to short but they started the letter war and im going to finish it:D.

i plan on posting all my lame complaints and pics on here:D

I dont think they can do anything unless your driving like a nut...and if its not after dark and your not ripping it up then they have nothing to complain about...Top it off and start dating one of there Daughters ;)

Sounds crappy, not sure what to make of it. Noise is noise, you have a loud setup, your buddies do. If it takes crawling down the street at idle, I'd do it, but that's me. There are no special privilages, and they're not complaining about completely stock vehicles just for the sake of complaining. At some point, not just one neighbor, but it sounds like several, have decided it's big enough to be open on thier dislike of the situatio. Unfortunately not everyone loves a crisp growl complimenting a ride that can back it. Loud systems attract all kinds of attention, good and bad.

My neighbor next door has a small s10 with a 350 conversion, dual 2 1/2" cherry bombs, headers, no cats, I can hear him fire it up or when he coasts in the driveway, but he doesn't even use 10% of the throttle and next to nothing for rpm's when he comes and goes. He knows he has neighbors with early rising jobs and kids sleeping, doing this has no conflicts whatsoever. I'd recommend doing the same, it's only a matter of time before it becomes a royal pain in the brown eye.

The issue with kids, your friend learning the clutch, even 25-30mph is too fast when kids are out, kids are kids, doesn't matter the speed limit.

Either way, I guess I'm stuck on the fence, I've had borderline systems myself when younger, and now being older and "mellower" I've talked with neighbors about. I hope all can be settled without any animosity (spelling) lingering. Keep it slow and low around the neighbors and good luck with a peaceful resolution, quite a bit of good recommendations here so far on that.

thanks for the advice bro, even though we are being careful and doing nothing wrong we will all be extra careful and try and resolve it with no problems. Honestly i dont think its the noise or they are worried about there kids. sadly it almost seems like the ones complaining are jealous. when i first got the beast they didnt say congratulations or any of that, there only question was how can u afford that. and today there was nobody outside at all, it was 36 out. the speed limit is 30. we are all really responsible and respectful, its just getting annoying they are complaining when we feel we are doing everything possible not to make a scene or upset any1.

this is an idea. i dont recommend it but its an idea. pay a ricer 50 bucks to fly thru your neighborhood esp down your street. when he comes thru make sure youre talking to all your neighbors that complain so they see that foolio flying thru and not going to your house and say SEE its not always me or my friends!!! LOLLLL

thanks for the advice bro, even though we are being careful and doing nothing wrong we will all be extra careful and try and resolve it with no problems. Honestly i dont think its the noise or they are worried about there kids. sadly it almost seems like the ones complaining are jealous. when i first got the beast they didnt say congratulations or any of that, there only question was how can u afford that. and today there was nobody outside at all, it was 36 out. the speed limit is 30. we are all really responsible and respectful, its just getting annoying they are complaining when we feel we are doing everything possible not to make a scene or upset any1.

You know, I spent probly 2 hours trying to think how to word my reply, without trying to say without being committed on one side or the other, not good at being vague and indecisive I guess:)

If I have anything possibly becoming an issue or unfolding in a less than desirable manner, I do an absolute confronting face to face, removing all preparation for it to be done to me. Go to the neighbors, locked and loaded, with as much discussion in your head thought out and prepared. Create all questions and answers you can ahead of time, what they're going to say, what you will, you will look very diligent and thought out.

If they find strength in numbers to complain, single them out one by one, explain yourself, the truck, make it known the system is indeed DOT approved, ask them what they would like you to do. You might eat a bit of crow here, but making someone feel important can go a long way. Be the dominate in the discussion, control it, run it fast, make them talk with no group backing, show them you really want the feedback and their concerns mean something, even though they may indeed just be whiny, jealous tea-baggers that couldn't appreciate the sexiest truck ever to pound pavement. Even if they just whine like a bunch of miserable, never had a good shag cat-ladies, at least you look like the community man, willing to work with them, and not just glare through bushes, hoping someone with balls would tell you what they really think. Maybe they are just douche bags:)

That sounds like a great idea, you are right the best way to solve it is to go talk to all of them and tell them my side of the story and see what we can do to resolve it. Hopefully
they understand and we can all get along but if not then I did my part. And I agree with your first post and didn't mean to come across rough if I did. I appreciate the insight and not taking sides. Your right u can never go to slow around kids. It just seems like there is more to it. I got a neighbor that drives down the street like she is running her quarter mile lol and they don't complain to her. So Im going to go talk to the complainers and me and my friends will be even more careful and drive even slower. If that doesn't work then I know we did everything we could to be open and solve it. If they won't comply then they are just douchbags like u said. Wish me luck haha:D

Really all they have to do is have a meeting and have a cop there to place his peg metter outside your jeep and bring it up to 2500 rpm and if it goes over the max then they can have to change your exhaust. If it stays below the max then theres nothing they can do. SIMPLE AND EASY.

Cutouts......2am Launches FTW

Cutouts......2am Launches FTW

I concur. :D

Hoseclamps idea about talking to the complainers individually is an excellent one. I can't tell you how many times after meeting with a group of employees about some concern, individuals would come to me after the meeting to tell me that they didn't agree with the group but were too intimated to speak out. If you meet with the people individually and get them to agree with your position then if you have a future meeting with the association you can challenge the assertion that "everyone" thinks that this is a problem. Good luck and remember to keep your cool. It will show the group that you're a responsible individual that's concerned about the neighborhood and it will diminish the strength of the group by winning more people to your side.

As long as you aren't really speeding and are going extra slow I don't see the problem. However I remember from my HS years I everyone who received complaints always said they didn't speed/fly when in reality they did...All I am saying is be honest with yourself.

With that said, no need to change your mufflers, but I would at least try to be extra courteous at first and see where that gets you. I mean if ya'll are frequently starting your cars up, idling them past 10 on week nights and past 2 on weekends I would get very pissed very quick and I am 27. But if they are *****ing about your cars making noise during the day then **** em. They need to compromise.

I was in the same predicament with one of my neighbors. He's a Dr. and would work the night shift sometimes. Right when he got to bed I'd crank up to take the kids to school. I would also leave it running and warm it up too.:lol: I was running SW headers, no cats, reso delete with a Magnaflow System. It was LOUD! After the cam went in it got WAAAY louder. Actually, too loud for me. Reso's back on.:D What pissed me off about the whole ordeal is he D-Bag went to my neighbor next door and asked him if he heard my truck!! Be a man and come see ME! My cool neighbor said no he couldn't hear it.:lol: Probably b/c the D-Bags bedroom faces my house across the street.:rofl:

Anyway, now that it's a little quieter I think he's happy. I always short shift the hell outta my Jeep in the hood. I'm in 3rd gear at 15mph and 4th gear at 21mph. It's a 25mph zone.

NOW.... the best part about the whole thing is..... my other cool neighbor on the left side.... his 17 year old kid has an 07 Mustang GT. We've been doing little things here and there. The kid orders(without talking to me about it!!:lol:) a Pypes Exhaust system. NO CATS AND NO MUFFLERS!! When this damn car starts it WILL make you jump! Scares the CRAP outta me. So now they have to deal with that thing and not mine!! What REALLY pisses me off is the kid went over to the D-Bags house to ask them if his GT was too loud...... THOSE BASTARDS SAID NO!!!! WTF!??! I'm at the point I don't even wave to them anymore. They're completely written off as neighbors in my book.

Like Wade said.... check the bylaws and crap with the HOA. If there's no provisions in it about loud vehicles.... you're good. Even if they add them you're still "Grandfathered" in. They can't make you change your system out. Just drive like a good boy and tell your friends to do the same. Afterall, it IS a neighborhood not a drag strip.:D

Go buy a Harley..and then you will have something that is loud at 3 am.

Probably just need to get to know your neighbors better. People don't generally complain about someone they know and like. This is all providing you are not a total ****. :D Have a cookout with some beer and invite everyone over.

I'd turn it around on them.
Tell them that you are just trying to drown out thier bastard azz kids. They make entirely to much noise. Always drinking back behind the house, smoking joints, laughing and carring on. And when the husband goes to work the god awful moans and growns comming from his wifes bedroom is hard to take. But the way, who the he!! is Jody. He is obviously bigger and better than you. Tell your old lady to bite a pillow or something while hubby's gone.
That will certainly take the heat off of you.

I was in the same predicament with one of my neighbors. He's a Dr. and would work the night shift sometimes. Right when he got to bed I'd crank up to take the kids to school. I would also leave it running and warm it up too.:lol: I was running SW headers, no cats, reso delete with a Magnaflow System. It was LOUD! After the cam went in it got WAAAY louder. Actually, too loud for me. Reso's back on.:D What pissed me off about the whole ordeal is he D-Bag went to my neighbor next door and asked him if he heard my truck!! Be a man and come see ME! My cool neighbor said no he couldn't hear it.:lol: Probably b/c the D-Bags bedroom faces my house across the street.:rofl:

Anyway, now that it's a little quieter I think he's happy. I always short shift the hell outta my Jeep in the hood. I'm in 3rd gear at 15mph and 4th gear at 21mph. It's a 25mph zone.

NOW.... the best part about the whole thing is..... my other cool neighbor on the left side.... his 17 year old kid has an 07 Mustang GT. We've been doing little things here and there. The kid orders(without talking to me about it!!:lol:) a Pypes Exhaust system. NO CATS AND NO MUFFLERS!! When this damn car starts it WILL make you jump! Scares the CRAP outta me. So now they have to deal with that thing and not mine!! What REALLY pisses me off is the kid went over to the D-Bags house to ask them if his GT was too loud...... THOSE BASTARDS SAID NO!!!! WTF!??! I'm at the point I don't even wave to them anymore. They're completely written off as neighbors in my book.

Like Wade said.... check the bylaws and crap with the HOA. If there's no provisions in it about loud vehicles.... you're good. Even if they add them you're still "Grandfathered" in. They can't make you change your system out. Just drive like a good boy and tell your friends to do the same. Afterall, it IS a neighborhood not a drag strip.:D

thanks Harrison it sounds like we have simular stories, i think my problem started with one lady on my street that didnt like it and everyday I see a bunch of those ladies sitting and talking at the bus stop waiting for there kids to come home. the crazy thing is my dad talked to both of my next door neighbors and the said they dont have a problem at all and said they can barley hear our cars from inside there houses. Its the people that live 7-10 houses away that are giving me the problem.


Thanks for the ideas every1! yall are the best

fook them make it louder and do burnouts and a couple 0-100

fook them make it louder and do burnouts and a couple 0-100

I like the way u think Vinny lol:D

Turbo 426 w/ Open Headers FTW! Then they'll beg you to go back to Borla/Kooks ;)

if i had a turbo 426 i could care less what they said that would be amazing

haha I hope I do lol, but I am also going to extra special attention to every1 of them. The neighbor association is going to be extra busy for a while, because im going to get a copy of the deed restrictions. I am going to look for anything wrong from trash cans not being out of sight to the grass not being cut weekly or a car being parked on the street, to everything. Instead of getting mad about it all, im going to make it fun. I hate complaining about stupid stuff bc life is to short but they started the letter war and im going to finish it:D.

i plan on posting all my lame complaints and pics on here:D

I'm old and want to share my wisdom for what it is worth. I hear you...this sounds like a bunch of pissy neighbors. That is really unfortunate. But, they are your neighbors and you have to 'live together' in relative peace. My 2 cents would be to sincerely do your best to keep it down. Be nice. Do your best to be sure you remain in compliance. I know, sounds like terrible advice, not at all what you wanted to hear.

Now, this tip is worth more than 2 cents....don't finish it or elevate it...right, wrong, or indifferent. If your rig or your friends' cars ever sit outside, trouble just may find your property. What would you do? If you escalate...your neighbors may escalate it right back. Next thing you know, you find yourself in court...either filing suit or defending yourself over NOTHING. The cost is eye popping.

I have a friend in a very nice neighborhood of the SW suburbs of Chicago. Home values range from 600K to 1M+. You would think this might be a reasonable place to live. My friend built the house. The HO association had requirements on the weight of the roof shingle. My friend was approved. A year later, the man who approved the roof got into a tizzy with my friend...they happened to be neighbors. My friend's music by the pool was too loud. The argument escalated...threats were made...my friend was then strangely advised that his roof was not in compliance and must be removed. Ina addition, the neighbor chose to sue over my friend's fence (which was fine until they got into this tizzy and lost control of their emotions). Long story short, my friend paid $48,000 in attorney and court costs over many months. He got to keep his roof and his fence. He is $48K poorer and he still HATES his neighbor. The neighbor hates him back. This game of legal chess cost the neighbor nothing...another board member (attorney) offered his services as a 'friend'...all in the name of screwing my friend. BTW. You can sue for anything...and it costs real money to defend yourself...right, wrong, or indifferent.

As Forest Gump once said, "...and that is all I got to say about that."

Good luck.

Next time they come up to you to b!tch at u just look at them and smile :D. And tell them you are not breaking any laws, therefore nothing will change. If they have any problem with that then tell them to call the police.
They will soon realize you will not make it quieter, and there is nothing they can do about it.

Cutouts FTW! Then they will think there is someone WAAY louder than you :D maybe they will stop bothering you so much if they think there is someone worse in the area. :bigthumb:

Turbo 426 w/ Open Headers FTW! Then they'll beg you to go back to Borla/Kooks ;)

Literally... :)

They will be like :eek:

Get a cordless drill and a hole saw kit. Drill holes in their mufflers. Call police.

I'm old and want to share my wisdom for what it is worth. I hear you...this sounds like a bunch of pissy neighbors. That is really unfortunate. But, they are your neighbors and you have to 'live together' in relative peace. My 2 cents would be to sincerely do your best to keep it down. Be nice. Do your best to be sure you remain in compliance. I know, sounds like terrible advice, not at all what you wanted to hear.

Now, this tip is worth more than 2 cents....don't finish it or elevate it...right, wrong, or indifferent. If your rig or your friends' cars ever sit outside, trouble just may find your property. What would you do? If you escalate...your neighbors may escalate it right back. Next thing you know, you find yourself in court...either filing suit or defending yourself over NOTHING. The cost is eye popping.

I have a friend in a very nice neighborhood of the SW suburbs of Chicago. Home values range from 600K to 1M+. You would think this might be a reasonable place to live. My friend built the house. The HO association had requirements on the weight of the roof shingle. My friend was approved. A year later, the man who approved the roof got into a tizzy with my friend...they happened to be neighbors. My friend's music by the pool was too loud. The argument escalated...threats were made...my friend was then strangely advised that his roof was not in compliance and must be removed. Ina addition, the neighbor chose to sue over my friend's fence (which was fine until they got into this tizzy and lost control of their emotions). Long story short, my friend paid $48,000 in attorney and court costs over many months. He got to keep his roof and his fence. He is $48K poorer and he still HATES his neighbor. The neighbor hates him back. This game of legal chess cost the neighbor nothing...another board member (attorney) offered his services as a 'friend'...all in the name of screwing my friend. BTW. You can sue for anything...and it costs real money to defend yourself...right, wrong, or indifferent.

As Forest Gump once said, "...and that is all I got to say about that."

Good luck.

That would be the worst case scenario.... Im sure the fact that they live in a 600K-1mill neighborhood has something to do with them deciding to use lawyers... The large majority of people dont have that kind of money.

That being said, I must say I am not too bad myself. I have 1 7/8" SW headers to cutouts to the stock catback (w/ magnaflow muffler)... So I can be quiet when im near my home, or a cop, or on a long roadtrip. And when I want to be loud I can SCREAM :D

Get a cordless drill and a hole saw kit. Drill holes in their mufflers. Call police.

LOL :lol: Thats some funny sh!t right there :D

I have a peace in me from being violated by others. Ever had something stolen from you? Could be something as small as your wallet and as big as your car... it doesn't feel right. Call me a flippin' hippy but I for one believe in kharma. Yes... you may feel like you are being singled out because of some jealousy but to be honest who really cares at the end of the day (besides maybe your ego... I mean this only in a respectful way BTW!)

Be respectful, try and find common ground - make a relationship that doesn't exist... the saying goes - keep your friends close and keep your enemies closer. Having them closer finds their soft spot and trust me - everyone has their soft spot. If its jealousy find out what's important to them and appease them. You'll win hearts and minds that way. You also get the ability to bend the rules in the manner you want to bend them.

Living in a very close commnity (Town homes stacked on top of each other in one of the most densely populated areas in North America... False Creek, Vancouver, BC) I have learned a lot... I find out what makes them tick... what's important to them... and trust me - I get my way about 90% of the time. Even with the people I do not like I make friends with. I let them babble and talk and feel self important. This helps me accomplish my goal of living on my terms.

Of course - this is me :) May not work for you... brute force may be a better alternative... CUT OUTS FTW if that's the case! :D

we are all trying our hardest guys and its not helping. Got another letter today. Friday was the latest I got home with was 1130 because I had a business meeting to reach a midnight deadline. We have all gone even slower. Im sick of it, I dont want to stoop to there level but,One of them has weeds by there sidewalk island/cracks of the driveway. One of them had there car parked in the street all day and the other one had there trashcan out before dark last night and left it out all day even though they were home. as i have read on the rules letter i was sent. Should I send them letters lol:D ?

Like others said. Be sure to have all means of back-up if you approach them. You have to choose your battles wisely. Technically, you're probably in violation of a noise ordinance. You dont want police involved. Instead, make comparisons like someone else said in the beginning. A decibel meter by your exhaust and than by a grabage truck when its compacting the load, the lawnmowers of the landscapers, etc. You can't be the ONLY noise in the neighborhood.

Be mature in your neighborhood, then make your noise once you are a half mile out. You may have to live by these people for years to come. If you piss them off too much, they will never forget it. It WILL come back to bite you in the ass one day. They can make you miserable in a place where you should be able to relax and unwind from a crappy day. Anyone can be an *******. It takes a bigger person to take the high road.

I agree with you guys 100%, Since day one me and all of my friends have kept a low profile. We dont speed or play our music loud or come to my house at redicious times. I have always been really friendly by waving everytime i see them and really just trying to get along. Since the first letter we have all slowed down even more and have tried to be as quiet as possible this week but still got another letter.

This is my new plan. Im not going to send them complaints or do anything for revenge or anything like that. Me and my friends are simply going to continue to drive 15-20 eventhough the speed limit is 25 and try and be as respectful and quiet to all of them. If Im just going to ignore the letters and if any of them wanna talk I will very calmly and nicely explain my story and be willing to hear theres. IF that doesnt work then tough **** I live in the neighborhood to and cutouts/heads/cam will be on the way. even after that install I will still drive slow and careful, but the only difference will be i will be going 10mph with the cutouts wide open and the cam a lopin:D
Guys im 20 years old and i feel im really mature for my age and I would love to act like the normal 20yr old but im going to take the high road. I can honestly and truthfully say we are doin nothing wrong. in 4-5 years when there kids are driving with loud cars eventhough I will be moved out by then they will see.

I used to have a muscle car with a loud exhaust and loud stereo. Now I'm married and my neighbors kids have loud rice burners and load stereos. I called the cops once because one neighbor had left town and his kids had a party with burnout contests at 2am, even I was not that disrespectful at that age.

Just be semi respectful, talk to the neighbors about cars they used to own, wave as you cruise by, slow down when their kids are riding bikes, give them a hand if you see them with their hood up, tell them in advance if you are going to have a party, just don't throw empties on their lawn. Simple $hit if you think about it really.

I used to have a muscle car with a loud exhaust and loud stereo. Now I'm married and my neighbors kids have loud rice burners and load stereos. I called the cops once because one neighbor had left town and his kids had a party with burnout contests at 2am, even I was not that disrespectful at that age.

Just be semi respectful, talk to the neighbors about cars they used to own, wave as you cruise by, slow down when their kids are riding bikes, give them a hand if you see them with their hood up, tell them in advance if you are going to have a party, just don't throw empties on their lawn. Simple if you think about it really.

i would pay the rice burners in the neighborhood next to mine to do burnout contests to take the heat off of us haha jk. On a serious note I cant be all bad, i have never had a party at my house, or done burnout contests at 2am. I will give that a shot though and go the extra mile to please them just to keep peace and make every1 happy.