http://blogs.edmunds.com/karl/447

compare to playboy's review:

http://www.playboy.com/style/reviews/wheels/jeep-grand-cherokee-srt8/

The guy just looks like a douche bag...oh well, you can't make everyone happy. Especially a douche bag. :eek: He looks like 90% of the guys you see driving subarus.

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/help/about/media/karlbrauer.jpg

Who cares......I'M A FAN!!!!:cool:

I got two words for u there !!!!!!!!!!

And they aren't Thank you..

lol, what a bunch of morons....First of all why dont they tell me what other american car has awd & power ????? NONE ! That was the biggest reason I go this truck - it hauls ass all year round w/out sliding all over the road.

Karl's dream ride.

lol, what a bunch of morons....First of all why dont they tell me what other american car has awd & power ????? NONE ! That was the biggest reason I go this truck - it hauls ass all year round w/out sliding all over the road.
He also said he'd rather have one of many other rapid station wagons. How many of these "rapid station wagons" can be had for the same price?

The guy just looks like a douche bag...oh well, you can't make everyone happy. Especially a douche bag. :eek: He looks like 90% of the guys you see driving subarus.

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/help/about/media/karlbrauer.jpg

He probably drives a Saturn.:rolleyes:

He's an idiot. I'm surprised that someone who holds his position doesn't realize that the appeal of any performance car is both personal and emotional. It is not based on stats, numbers or practical comparisons. To compare a Jeep SRT8 to a station wagon merely because neither can go off-road is absurd. I never heard these ridiculous statements when GMC came out with the Grand National based Cyclone in 1991 or the Typhoon in 1992.

Additionally, Mr. Brauer seems to love the Ford F-150 SVT Lightning. A truck that can't haul or go off-road. He even goes so far as to say "I'd probably go with this truck for my personal use." For God's sake, have some consistency in your opinions man.

Read his comments on the Ford F-150 SVT Lightning here: http://www.edmunds.com/apps/vdpcontainers/do/vdp/articleId=102037/pageNumber=2

Who gives a SH*T what he thinks? That website sucks anyway.

If I felt like taking the time to log in to his review site, I would tell him to pound salt - but in actual fact, I don't care what he thinks. He didn't buy the truck. I did!

Who gives a SH*T what he thinks? That website sucks anyway.

LOL - yeh, what he said.

I was wondering when someone from this site was going to see that blog entry. Karl's a great guy, regardless of what he says about the SRT8. Not everyone has to like it. His opinion certainly didn't dissuade me from my decision, and I sit less than 30 feet from the guy and have worked with him for over 5 years.

We tested the 2006 model and liked it a lot:
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Followup/articleId=108449

We also did a full test on the 2007, and the story should be up in a couple weeks.

Karl drives a Ford GT. So his comments about ground clearance always make me smile. I haven't busted his chops about the cracking half-shafts on the GT yet...I figured I'd keep that one up my sleeve until I really needed it.

I've also received more compliments on how the JGC looks than my E39 M5, and this company is absolutely chock-full of car nuts. So even though he may be the Editor-In-Chief, he doesn't necessarily speak for all of us :)

-Matt

Karl is a prick! He can't even spell his name right. KARL with a K. What a joke.
These Jeeps rock! :mad:




The guy just looks like a douche bag...oh well, you can't make everyone happy. Especially a douche bag. :eek: He looks like 90% of the guys you see driving subarus.

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/help/about/media/karlbrauer.jpg

Who gives a SH*T what he thinks? That website sucks anyway.


Appreciate the comment. Thanks for that.

Appreciate the comment. Thanks for that.

Don't take it to heart - its just territorialism...Is that a word?

Where did he get that picture? Looks like a kid I beat up in middle school!


:D


The guy just looks like a douche bag...oh well, you can't make everyone happy. Especially a douche bag. :eek: He looks like 90% of the guys you see driving subarus.

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/help/about/media/karlbrauer.jpg

You welcome. That site is inundated with advertisements, almost as bad as THIS place. Every time I've gone there looking for something useful, it takes WAY too long to even find simple information. Someone has to go back to web design 101.

Karl's dream ride.

Based on Matt Edmunds correction that Karl in fact drove a Ford GT I was incorrect in my assumption he drove a Smart Car. I stand corrected. Based on his dislike for our brutish stationwagons I weep to think what red line that Ford will never see.

You welcome. That site is inundated with advertisements, almost as bad as THIS place. Every time I've gone there looking for something useful, it takes WAY too long to even find simple information. Someone has to go back to web design 101.


I didn't think people from South Jersey could read, much less use a computer. So I'll be sure to forward your comments along to our web team. :)

From the Edmunds article:

...you can fix almost anything with more power
What was broken?


...trucky ride quality...
"Trucky"??, is that even a word? Karl, what did you expect from a 420-hp vehicle built for racing?


...Obviously, with a lowered ride height and 20-inch wheels, it can't go off-road, so it's basically a rapid station wagon -- and still heavy by station wagon standards. Bottom line, there are plenty of other rapid station wagons out there I'd rather drive, most of them with superior steering feel, handling, ride quality and interior space...
Why reviewers "fault" the Jeep for not being able to go "off-road" is beyond me. Do they not understand that it was NOT designed to go off-road, and that the people buying it are NOT buying it to go off-road?

Hey Karl, you forgot to mention some of the Jeep SRT's other "drawbacks" - it cannot haul 7 (or more) passengers, it's not a hybrid, it doesn't have a convertible top, the engine is not a diesel, it can't tow a motorhome, and it's not Japanese-built.


...This car is really meant for Jeep fanatics who would rather go fast than go off road...
Uhh, DUHH!!!!!!!! DOHHHH!!!!!!!!! DUHHHHHHH!!!!!!

GEE, DO YOU THINK THAT MAYBE, JUST MAYBE, THAT WAS THE REASON IT WAS BUILT?????

Hippie. How well does the GT drive in the snow?

I didn't think people from South Jersey could read, much less use a computer. So I'll be sure to forward your comments along to our web team. :)


http://forums.offtopic.com/images/smilies/gfight.gif

Very nice, I comment about the website and YOU choose to personally attack me. Very professional, Karl would be proud. I didn't think it was possible, yet my opinion of the site and those involved in it are even lower. Your true character shines through.

I didn't think people from South Jersey could read, much less use a computer. So I'll be sure to forward your comments along to our web team. :)



Even though I'm from North Jersey, Your personal attack was uncalled for. And the attack on the State of New Jersey was uncalled for. May you jerks never make another dime for someone in New Jersey. asshat!!!!!!!

Seriously. NOW you guys see what his true colors are. I commented on the site, and how poorly laid out it is. Then he comes out with that. WOW.

I didn't think people from South Jersey could read, much less use a computer. So I'll be sure to forward your comments along to our web team. :)

Usually I stay out of this stuff, and I may be in Fl now, but grew up in South Jersey, and I can read, and even write..... and jeez, I'm all of 65 years old........and guess what? I can navigate this computer a bit too. I guess I slipped through the cracks, huh?

And yeah....I will agree too, that the web site sucks. You do need to pass that on to the web team.

Other than the above.....have a nice day.:)

Even though I'm from North Jersey, Your personal attack was uncalled for. And the attack on the State of New Jersey was uncalled for. May you jerks never make another dime for someone in New Jersey. asshat!!!!!!!


I said it with a smile. I'm from NJ myself, still have family there, and clearly didn't anticipate that it would be seen as a personal attack, so my apologies for that. I didn't think you guys would mind busting chops a bit especially since you were dragging my company through the mud. No offense intended.

Our website is busy, for sure. But it gets millions of hits a day and helps many thousands of people new cars or trucks at a fair price. The editorial articles don't really bring in much money, but they sure generate press, whether bad or good.

The internet is used mainly for two purposes. To obtain information, and to complain. This thread seems to complain about a site meant for information, and since I added fire to that, my apologies.

Nice back pedaling job... IMUS!

I said it with a smile. I'm from NJ myself, still have family there, and clearly didn't anticipate that it would be seen as a personal attack, so my apologies for that. I didn't think you guys would mind busting chops a bit especially since you were dragging my company through the mud. No offense intended.

Our website is busy, for sure. But it gets millions of hits a day and helps many thousands of people new cars or trucks at a fair price. The editorial articles don't really bring in much money, but they sure generate press, whether bad or good.

The internet is used mainly for two purposes. To obtain information, and to complain. This thread seems to complain about a site meant for information, and since I added fire to that, my apologies.

Nice back pedaling job... IMUS!

I'd comment on your screen name, but it's just too easy.

THIS POST HAS REACHED IT LIMIT OF USEFULNESS. :o

you think?

I'd comment on your screen name, but it's just too easy.

The only thing I would like to add, and right on topic of course, is I love that screen name! Laughed my @ss off when I first saw it.

Children......

Yes, you too Teda. I think until you produce your AARP card, I can't believe you're the same age as my dad. ;) You drive too cool of a car.

Serioulsy..... let's lay off the attacks, TIC or not.

Hammer the guy who wrote the article all you want, but leave the other stuff at the door.

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/help/about/media/karlbrauer.jpg

Matt, tell Karl I'll get him a good deal on some hair replacement whether it be nonsurgical or surgical. :D

Where did he get that picture? Looks like a kid I beat up in middle school!


:D

I saw the picture with the article, but it wouldn't let me copy it. So it became my mission for the day to track it down. ;) I wonder when the last time he got laid was???

The guy just looks like a douche bag...oh well, you can't make everyone happy. Especially a douche bag. :eek: He looks like 90% of the guys you see driving subarus.

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/help/about/media/karlbrauer.jpg

Hey, I drive a subaru, for 2 more days. So I take offence. But that is one reason i am getting rid of the suby.

Hey, I drive a subaru, for 2 more days. So I take offence. But that is one reason i am getting rid of the suby.

You are in the other 10%! :D

Typical ahole writer who has never drove one but puts his opinion out there for other douchebags to read and beleive.

I beleive everyone is entitled to there opinion, but drive one before you bury it like he just did, typical writer just like the rest of the media in this country, biased aholes.

That writer just got all of us to visit his website. I guess that's their goal.

Maybe, but because production numbers are so low, he went for a small market if they were going for website hits. Although you might have one of the highest concentrations of car enthusiasts per production numbers with this thing.

On another note, I can't believe this thread is still going. I think what Greg really meant was stick to comments about this guys article more than personal attacks, but hey I guess its free speach...

[stirring the pot]

from http://blogs.edmunds.com/karl/447

itsallmuscle - Aug 7, 2007 8:53 am (#11 Total: 11)


Wow, lots of flame on this one. I think Karl makes some valid points, I guess he underestimated how "fanatical" jeep fans are.

Mango... the reason we read the blog is because we care what Karl thinks...

I think the reason you are getting so much heat is because you are pinning the jeep as obsolete, and not giving it the opportunity as a competitor.

Who cares......I'M A FAN!!!!:cool:

Second that!!

The "Market" has a much louder voice than Karl

Douche Karl doesn't get it. I don't think a single person on this forum bought the GC SRT8 to be practical. I bought it cause it's f*cking BAD ASS!

Touche', jl. These are somehow painfully enjoyable reading. Viva la smak! Now everybody go back to being sane . . . OK?

ps: I never went to the site.:p

Honestly, who wears a white T under a polo? I bet he doesn't even own a car. And I also bet he never drove a GC SRT8. I bet he sat in the passenger seat and whimpered like a bich.

Perhaps Karl needs to see this thread re AutoX
http://www.cherokeesrt8.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6038