Here is the scoop I got from STS...

"We would be Interested in doing one of those here in house, Let me know if that sounds like something you would want us to do. The other option is to just sell you our universal kit for $2995 good up to 620Hp. You would have to tune the Computer yourself and Fabricate your Own Pipe but other than that it can be done. I will send you some Pic's from a customer of mine that did one in Puerto Rico that ran a Twin Turbo Setup!! Let me know if you have any questions."

So there you have it, if you have any questions or would like STS to do your truck in house contact Freddy Polo.

freddy@ststurbo.com
1-866-938-8726 Ext-809

Dew it, dew it!!!!!!!

hang on. Ive heard many offbeat things about them. Let me do some research. If theres problems doing the tuning then theyll have the same problem. Where are they located?

Some company has to have someone that can figure out these comp's....

Give me a sec...A lot of blown motors.

Theres no set tune. You have to tune it. Stupid..

http://www.viperalley.com/forum/ram-srt-10-discussions/53631-sts-turbo-over-600-a.html

And this from a previous owner

Here are some of the things I have learned about the turbos and STS:

- If you want more boost than 5psi, you need a motor that is ready for it.
- Long tubes slow your spool time. Keep all the heat in the exhaust that you can.
- Don't pressurize the crankcase (insure proper ventilation, etc.).
- Get a good tune. Do not drive kit at full boost without it.
- Monitor all engine vitals as much as possible.
- You will never spool as quick while at the same time make the same power as the front mount kits. You can make the same power up to a point, but spool will suffer.
- You will keep your AC and all accessories in stock locations as well as alot of heat out of the engine compartment.
- Installation is much easier than a front mount kit, since you don't have to do headers.
- Turbos are tons of fun.


Hope the Jeep isnt your daily driver. Wife will make you sleep on the couch with all the attention the Jeep will need


The biggest problem ive been reading is the spool time. Longer spool time is bad.

i think sleeping on the couch is a bigger problem than the long spool time

if the price is right i want it .

The first question on this page from STS's site supposedly addresses the lag time.
http://www.ststurbo.com/f_a_q

As an alternate source, I wonder if RSI in Houston is interested in producing a kit. RSI is owned by people who used to work for Hennessey and quit because of his shady practices, or so I've heard.

....not trying to steal a vendors thunder but.......

You can buy the "rear" mount specific turbos. buy the oil pump kits....
buy and fabricate the piping....and have it on the truck for less than $2000.
Add in the intercooler, and other associated/needed parts....less than $3000.

The big question lies in the proper tuning.

With the new technology of the rear mount turbos, they are specifically
designed to spool up different and are mapped etc for rear mount situations.

The rear mount kit is the way to go anymore.

To me, Hennesey is on crack to want the money he wants for the turbo setup.

Just like some of the other companies, that want $7500 for a blower deal....
I feel they are just taking advantage of the high dollar people who buy the
SRT8 vehicles, SRT10 trucks, and other $45k+ perfomance vehicles.

Example....how can Vortech and others sell a complete base kit for less than
$3k and with basically the same designs and components companies want $7k+?

just my 2 cents. No flames please....

As posted by GotStroke in another thread:
I think the price has more to do with the limited sales potential of the kit (based on our build numbers alone) than anything else.

........true......

and the fact they had to fabricate it "on" an actual Jeep SRT8.

I bought, on e-bay a do it yourself rear turbo guide. It was awesome for $8.

Anyone interested in a STS turbo should wait to see results from Stage 6. The product is hands down superior, and the numbers will also be without question.

^^ exactly....if anyone can figure out the tuning it will be them! Just be patient. Youll be glad you did!

Anyone interested in a STS turbo should wait to see results from Stage 6. The product is hands down superior, and the numbers will also be without question.

That was my kit/idea, I was the first to call them and offer them 8-12K and my truck. BUt they never got back to me after the initial conversation??? But I know they are working on it. :)

I wait in antisapation for both the ASM & Stage 6.

There is no big secret to tuning the 5.7-6.1 Hemi, STS already has a kit for the the Dodge Ram 5.7 which laid down over 400 RWHP on a stock Ram 1500 4x4 with a 5.7 Hemi.

The bottom line is the STS system works and makes power it also eliminates that hot azz turbo under the hood, I have shown 10,9,8,and 7 second cars using this system so I am quite sure your street driven Jeep at modest boost levels will not pose a problem.

For any of you detractors I have a question: How many turbo cars have you built?, so far I am on my second.

And as of this posting all other turbo kits for the 6.1 Hemi are just vaporware.

STS has a kit made for the SRT10! 557rwhp and 559 torque

http://www.ststurbo.com/srt10

....not trying to steal a vendors thunder but.......

You can buy the "rear" mount specific turbos. buy the oil pump kits....
buy and fabricate the piping....and have it on the truck for less than $2000.
Add in the intercooler, and other associated/needed parts....less than $3000.


As stated in the original post STS offers a basic kit with everything you mentioned for $2995.

So whatusaying?

There is no big secret to tuning the 5.7-6.1 Hemi, STS already has a kit for the the Dodge Ram 5.7 which laid down over 400 RWHP on a stock Ram 1500 4x4 with a 5.7 Hemi.

The bottom line is the STS system works and makes power it also eliminates that hot azz turbo under the hood, I have shown 10,9,8,and 7 second cars using this system so I am quite sure your street driven Jeep at modest boost levels will not pose a problem.

For any of you detractors I have a question: How many turbo cars have you built?, so far I am on my second.

And as of this posting all other turbo kits for the 6.1 Hemi are just vaporware.

Then why is the aftermarket having so much trouble tuning our Jeep? Sure, STS can produce a basic kit, but they can't tune it for us.

So you built two turbo cars, whoop-dee-doodoo. That doesn't make you an expert.

That was my kit/idea, I was the first to call them and offer them 8-12K and my truck. BUt they never got back to me after the initial conversation??? But I know they are working on it. :)

I wait in antisapation for both the ASM & Stage 6.

I think that's because they already have a close relationship with Torrie and he owns a Jeep.

There is no big secret to tuning the 5.7-6.1 Hemi, STS already has a kit for the the Dodge Ram 5.7 which laid down over 400 RWHP on a stock Ram 1500 4x4 with a 5.7 Hemi.

The bottom line is the STS system works and makes power it also eliminates that hot azz turbo under the hood, I have shown 10,9,8,and 7 second cars using this system so I am quite sure your street driven Jeep at modest boost levels will not pose a problem.

For any of you detractors I have a question: How many turbo cars have you built?, so far I am on my second.

And as of this posting all other turbo kits for the 6.1 Hemi are just vaporware.


I'm only going to post this once, but there is absolutely no denying STS produces an inferior kit in all aspects compared to what Stage 6 has done. Lest you forget you need to bend your own pipes for the STS kit to work. While I have access to pipe benders, and maybe you do as well, not everyone does. At this point I'll put my money on vaporware instead of into a rear mount turbo, thanks.

Then why is the aftermarket having so much trouble tuning our Jeep? Sure, STS can produce a basic kit, but they can't tune it for us.

So you built two turbo cars, whoop-dee-doodoo. That doesn't make you an expert.


Actually the better question is did you build it or did you have them built.

This STS thing is getting old. Does the Kit work... Yes. Is it the proper way...IMO no. Does it have benefits ? yes no under hood heat. Does it have cons? Running long lines(oil) multiple LONG plumbing, Water inhalation. And the debate of lag. Its all opinion at this point... I don't like them but if you gave a kit to me i would use it.

.....I agree with the tuning aspect, right now.....options suck!

What I was saying in regard to the STS kit is, you can build it yourself or
a knowledgable mechanic can piece it together for a lot less.

I was thinking about buying an oil kit for $175 off e-bay, a turbo off a
reputable vendor $850?, and the piping myself $200?, and other odds and ends >$400?.

Less than $2k for entire set-up??????? plus or minus.

STS has got the best set-up and honestly is a good price, and the results
speak for themselves. 5-7lbs would set these Grand Cherokees in a fit.

....I was also going to run my old stock Cobra heat exchanger, and bottle,
buy a IC pump and have a good friend help me fabricate a rear mount for
my FX4 F150, because my tuner can tune it almost perfect.

Sorry if you took offense to my post. I am a newbie in the GCSRT8 world,
but have plenty of other Ford related and drag experience in the past 20 years.

.
STS has got the best set-up and honestly is a good price, and the results
speak for themselves. 5-7lbs would set these Grand Cherokees in a fit.



"Only" is not the same as "best", and the results will be subpar comapared to any conventional mount kit.
Which would you rather have had on your Term, an HP Twin kit or STS? Exactly.

So you built two turbo cars, whoop-dee-doodoo. That doesn't make you an expert.

Thats probably 2 more than you, have you even driven a 11 second or quicker car?

I've got a STS kit on my Vette and LOVE IT!!! Lag isn't a huge issue. Customer service is #1!

300 SRT8 vs. 350Z w/STS (http://s62.photobucket.com/albums/h97/koffee_kake/?action=view&current=VIDEO_016.flv)

300 SRT8 vs. 350Z w/STS (http://s62.photobucket.com/albums/h97/koffee_kake/?action=view&current=VIDEO_016.flv)

Zero relevance to anything. You mean a turbo 350Z can beat a N/A stock longblock 300C? Say it ain't so. :rolleyes:

Honestly, just join their marketing team, because all you do is promote their subpar product.

A real turbo setup from Stage 6, the company that's also fabricating one for our Jeeps. 1012rwhp TT Ford GT (it's now pushing 1500rw on turbo alone, 1700rw +75 shot): http://videos.streetfire.net/video/17d69c67-00cb-4035-8422-983c01421e14.htm


STS What???

Zero relevance to anything. You mean a turbo 350Z can beat a N/A stock longblock 300C? Say it ain't so. :rolleyes:

Honestly, just join their marketing team, because all you do is promote their subpar product.

Give it a break, that is a SRT8 300 and a Nissan 350Z, sorry chief but you already lost the argument against STS when you claimed there were no 9,8, and 7 second rear mount turbocars and I proved you wrong.

I started this thread for people who are interested in a system for their SRT, If you are not interested why did you open the thread in the first place?

Cut your losses and go troll another thread.

Thats probably 2 more than you, have you even driven a 11 second or quicker car?
And this is relevant how? Trying to prove yourself to be a badass doesn't have anything to do with this thread.

Give it a break, that is a SRT8 300 and a Nissan 350Z, sorry chief but you already lost the argument against STS when you claimed there were no 9,8, and 7 second rear mount turbocars and I proved you wrong.

I started this thread for people who are interested in a system for their SRT, If you are not interested why did you open the thread in the first place?

Cut your losses and go troll another thread.

What relevance does a STS 350Z have in this a Jeep SRT8 Forum???? Congratulations, we're only four months into '07 and you've already locked up this years Darwin Award. Go buy a clue.


You've yet to prove that STS kits aren't absolute garbage. Conventional mount > STS 8 days a week. Please stop trying to lure people into buying that trash.
Speaking of, can you feel the irony in calling me a troll...Are you ever going to buy a Jeep or just spam our boards with your STS BS?

And this is relevant how? Trying to prove yourself to be a badass doesn't have anything to do with this thread.

Didn't you know that if you've installed or helped to install two turbo kits you're instantly reconized as an automotive god? :rolleyes:

Didn't you know that if you've installed or helped to install two turbo kits you're instantly reconized as an automotive god? :rolleyes:

Stroked.....??? Where have you been, this has alway been the case. Now if you stay at a Holiday Inn Express you can design and install it. ;)

I am not on anyones side here, but what are the pros and cons of conventional mount and the rear mount systems?

Didn't you know that if you've installed or helped to install two turbo kits you're instantly reconized as an automotive god? :rolleyes:
Don't forget that he has a turboed Vette. We must all bow down before his radiance.

I am not on anyones side here, but what are the pros and cons of conventional mount and the rear mount systems?


Here's one large con (Hennessey's system, which was designed with the aid of STS, to boot) to start: http://www.***********/forums/showthread.php?t=8060 That's what happens when your air filter rides the concrete. I remember saying that was going to happen months ago, now maybe some will come to their senses.
Turbos are typically (conventionally) placed as close to the exhaust manifold as possible so exhaust gases stay hot, with high velocity, meaning decreased spool times (lag). Placing the turbos next to the transmission (Hennessey) or even worse, near the rear bumper means said gases have to travel the length of the car, in the process cooling down, which increases lag time.
Here's a dyno graph of a 5.7L LS1 GT0 with STS turbo. The base kit comes with a small turbo, as you can see as the power dies at ~5500 rpm. Smaller turbos also typically mean faster spool time (less lag, more low/midrange) however as you can see by the graph, again not the case with STS (which actually looks more like the curves of a tiny centrifugal blower):

http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=33131&d=1145165474

At 3500rpm it makes a whopping 250rwhp. That car would lift it's leg to piss on the street. Additionally, you'll notice that rear mount turbos hold no records whatsoever in sanctioned racing, and that everyone that knows what they're doing in the turbo business runs conventional mount setups. STS kits are unequivocally referred to by top tier shops as "second rate" or "junk" simply because they are. As for StageFright's argument that he posted info on two cars running single digits with an STS kit, BFD. I can spray a 300 shot on a $5000 Fox Body Mustang with $10,000 engine and run 8s. That doesn't mean it's not a piece of ****, and that there aren't much better ways of doing it.

That car would lift it's leg to piss on the street.

That made me spit my coke all over my computer screen. :D

I am not on anyones side here, but what are the pros and cons of conventional mount and the rear mount systems?

Don't listen to this bull about the STS kits, I have a front mount kit on my vette, but the STS results speak for themselves, we have several guys over at the Corvette forum who use them and love them with the quickest being a 7 second Z06.

But see for yourself, because action speaks louder than words, and remember the 1/4 mile is still the best dyno, only posers live off chassis dyno slips.

STS cars (http://ststurbo.com/fast_customers)

Now ask the detractors are any of them going this fast. http://images.corvetteforum.com/images/smilies/skep.gif

Don't forget that he has a turboed Vette. We must all bow down before his radiance.

LOL, the way you follow "got stroked"" are you sure that is not your picture on your avatar? :D

Are you ever going to buy a Jeep or just spam our boards with your STS BS?

When they get a decent aftermarket I'll be the first in line, because stock sucks.

BTW what do you mean by "our boards", do you help out ge2 with the bills around here?

LOL, the way you follow "got stroked"" are you sure that is not your picture on your avatar? :D
You keep sidestepping the fact that you're an idiot. Just because you've installed two turbo kits doesn't make you an expert on them. And just because GotStroke and I share the same opinion of you doesn't mean we are up on each other's jockstraps. However, you should know the difference between the two since you've buried yourself in STS' cup.

Don't listen to this bull about the STS kits, I have a front mount kit on my vette, but the STS results speak for themselves, we have several guys over at the Corvette forum who use them and love them with the quickest being a 7 second Z06.

But see for yourself, because action speaks louder than words, and remember the 1/4 mile is still the best dyno, only posers live off chassis dyno slips.

STS cars (http://ststurbo.com/fast_customers)

http://images.corvetteforum.com/images/smilies/skep.gif


You can name two single digit cars running STS kits, guess what, every other one of the hundreds maybe even thousands out there (including all the 6 second cars in the world) are running conventional mounts. Like I said before, call ANY top tier shop and mention STS and see how hard the guy on the other end of the phone laughs.

Now ask the detractors are any of them going this fast.

The fact is the preceding comment has absolutely nothing to do with the quality (or lack thereof) of STS kits. Sadly, your logic resembles that of a semi retarded llama, on amphetamines.

When they get a decent aftermarket I'll be the first in line, because stock sucks.

Seeing that you're going to be waiting for a while, why not stick to the Vette boards in the meantime?

BTW what do you mean by "our boards", do you help out ge2 with the bills around here?

Our, as in, boards concerning and/or pertaining to Jeep SRT8s. You don't own one and readily admit that you're not buying one anytime soon. Yet you persistantly ***** about the lack of aftermarket support, talk about how your Vette was forged in the hands of Zeus, and constantly spam for STS.

Honestly, if not to stir up trouble, why are you here?

You keep sidestepping the fact that you're an idiot.

Thats typical, can't state your case without name-calling.

Go tune your snorkel and t-stat mod. :D

Honestly, if not to stir up trouble, why are you here?

Maybe because its a PUBLIC forum.

One question, how many aftermarket turbo cars have you owned?

You can name two single digit cars running STS kits

We are talking street driven vehicles here, I don't think anyone here wants to put their street driven Jeep in the 9's, and since these are street vehicles the STS system is a viable option, I just pointed out some 7,8,9, and 10 second examples to prove the system does work and you can't dispute that.

Just because you have a pet-peeve against the design does not mean that the other members should not see what is out there for the SRT 6.1 Hemi.

Like I said earlier if you don't like STS don't open a STS thread.

Thats typical, can't state your case without name-calling.

Go tune your snorkel and t-stat mod. :D

You're right, I'll admit that name calling is petty (although "idiot" is pretty weak namecalling and silly to whine about it). Yet, you still sidestep the point. Near 30 posts ago, I pointed out that STS could not produce a tune for any kit they could develop for us, yet you chose to ignore that comment and focus on the fact that I challenged your turbo credibility because you claimed to have built two turbo cars.

One question, how many aftermarket turbo cars have you owned?

Again, what does that have to do with anything. Let me guess how this will go, he says no and you claim that he doesn't know anything about turbos because doesn't own an aftermarket set-up. Well, lets turn this around, do you own an SRT-8 Jeep? No? Then what would you know about them? See, my question is just a ridiculous as yours, so quit asking it.

We are talking street driven vehicles here, I don't think anyone here wants to put their street driven Jeep in the 9's, and since these are street vehicles the STS system is a viable option, I just pointed out some 7,8,9, and 10 second examples to prove the system does work and you can't dispute that.

Just because you have a pet-peeve against the design does not mean that the other members should not see what is out there for the SRT 6.1 Hemi.


Other members are working on making their Jeeps faster via power adders, just not using STS.

Finally, I think FastSRT8GC gave a good synopsis of the issue:
This STS thing is getting old. Does the Kit work... Yes. Is it the proper way...IMO no. Does it have benefits ? yes no under hood heat. Does it have cons? Running long lines(oil) multiple LONG plumbing, Water inhalation. And the debate of lag. Its all opinion at this point... I don't like them but if you gave a kit to me i would use it.

Finally, I think Fast SRT8GC gave a good synopsis of the issue:

:) :) :) :) Wow you guys do read my posts. Right on.

I like the way all of those single digit cars all have extensive work done to the block.

Maybe because its a PUBLIC forum.

Actually Einstein, it's a private forum, unless Uncle Sam runs this place? Regardless, I'm not aware of trolls being welcome in any forum, so again, why are you here?

One question, how many aftermarket turbo cars have you owned?

Again, another question with zero relevance from the hopped up llama. Put it this way, I've installed more than two turbo kits, have vastly more knowledge than you pertaining to anything internal combustion, and have been published more times (magazines and book) than you can count. Next?

We are talking street driven vehicles here, I don't think anyone here wants to put their street driven Jeep in the 9's, and since these are street vehicles the STS system is a viable option, I just pointed out some 7,8,9, and 10 second examples to prove the system does work and you can't dispute that.

Precisely my point, STS kits are even worse on the street than at the strip. For the tenth time, look at the GTO dyno graph, can you say LAG?

Just because you have a pet-peeve against the design does not mean that the other members should not see what is out there for the SRT 6.1 Hemi.

What I have against STS is experience and knowledge. I'm not going to pat a ****ty design on the back for the sake of doing it. I know I wouldn't waste my time or money on such crap, so why should I help others make a poor decision as such?

Like I said earlier if you don't like STS don't open a STS thread.

Like I've said a dozen times to this point, leave troll.

You're right, I'll admit that name calling is petty (although "idiot" is pretty weak namecalling and silly to whine about it). Yet, you still sidestep the point. Near 30 posts ago, I pointed out that STS could not produce a tune for any kit they could develop for us, yet you chose to ignore that comment and focus on the fact that I challenged your turbo credibility because you claimed to have built two turbo cars.

I posted a direct quote from the email I received from Freddy Polo at STS where he is offering to do a SRT in house (tuning included), he stated that if you purchased the universal DIY kit you would have to tune it yourself.

My personal turbosystem is a Turbo Technology (http://www.turbotechnologyinc.com) Stage 3, and of course we had to tune it ourselves, it just so happens that I know one of the best Corvette (LS1/LS6) tuners in the country, my cars are tuned with a chassis dyno and also over the road for driveability.

And as far as the Jeep ownership is concerned, I work for DCX and I have always had a interest in the GCSRT, I drove the original test mule for the GCSRT a year before it hit the market.

BTW don't let those dyno numbers fool you, look at the 1/4 mile ET's, the STS is a little softer down low (which would greatly help traction) but it hits hard where you need it.

In all honesty does this GTO look weak to you?
Brent's GTO (http://oi.b5z.net/i/u/1473169/f/Video/brent_gto_10.66_130_mph.wmv)

Bone stock 1999 C5 Corvette w/2800 stall converter and STS system.

Tommy's Vette (http://oi.b5z.net/i/u/1473169/i/C5%20Corvette/11.4.127.wmv)

I am not trying to push anyone to a STS system but as a power adder you can't argue with the results, no dyno numbers, all actual 1/4 mile times.

GotStroke?

I am going to have to agree to disagree with you and call it a day.

I posted a direct quote from the email I received from Freddy Polo at STS where he is offering to do a SRT in house (tuning included), he stated that if you purchased the universal DIY kit you would have to tune it yourself.

In all honesty does this GTO look weak to you?
Brent's GTO (http://oi.b5z.net/i/u/1473169/f/Video/brent_gto_10.66_130_mph.wmv)

Well, he kinda said he could tune it, but with what since no one else has been able to offer a tune? I think your agreeing to disagree is sound advice at this point because neither one of us is getting anywhere.

As for the GTO, no it doesn't look weak, but it's not running just a turbo either.

Bone stock 1999 C5 Corvette w/2800 stall converter and STS system.

Tommy's Vette (http://oi.b5z.net/i/u/1473169/i/C5%20Corvette/11.4.127.wmv)

I am not trying to push anyone to a STS system but as a power adder you can't argue with the results, no dyno numbers, all actual 1/4 mile times.


Where's that yawn icon?

As for the GTO, no it doesn't look weak, but it's not running just a turbo either.

But the 11 second Corvette is.

You have to admit it's pretty easy to run 11s N/A on the stock bottom end.

But the 11 second Corvette is.
Except for the stall and slicks.

Except for the stall and slicks.

Nope, no slicks on Tom's vette, its running on drag radials, he drives it to the track.

The car ran 11.4 @126 mph, 126 is some serious mph for a street car and the ONLY additon to the stock 345 HP LS1 is a STS turbo system.

Nope, no slicks on Tom's vette, its running on drag radials, he drives it to the track.

The car ran 11.4 @126 mph, 126 is some serious mph for a street car and the ONLY additon to the stock 345 HP LS1 is a STS turbo system.
I was thinking DRs, but with the length of the burnout, I bumped my guess to slicks. Oh well.

Ask the Corvette owners about STS. Youll know why you dont see them much.

Besides do you guys really want that toy whistle sound coming from your Jeep?

the whistle of a turbo is one of the sweetest sounds known to man.

my .02

Nope, no slicks on Tom's vette, its running on drag radials, he drives it to the track.

The car ran 11.4 @126 mph, 126 is some serious mph for a street car and the ONLY additon to the stock 345 HP LS1 is a STS turbo system.


You know what's really impressive? Take a stock 215HP 95 Mustang GT and slap an 8psi Incon twin kit on it. Then watch the traps jump from 95mph to 122mph, a 27mph gain from an otherwise unchanged car, with substantially more weight, less displacement, and junk heads by comparison to the LS1 vette cited above.

You know what's really impressive? Take a stock 215HP 95 Mustang GT and slap an 8psi Incon twin kit on it. Then watch the traps jump from 95mph to 122mph, a 27mph gain from an otherwise unchanged car, with substantially more weight, less displacement, and junk heads by comparison to the LS1 vette cited above.

I know Dave Inall (Incon owner) personally and my 1994 Mustang SVT Cobra was the prototype for his SN95 Mustang system.

Incon fabbed up the kit and when it was done it laid down 430 rwhp/495 ft.lbs. at 7psi on a 245HP SVT 5.0 liter, the car never hit 122 mph in the 1/4 mile but ran a consistent 116 mph.

Car went on to be featured in Super Ford magazine (March 1999).

FYI: Incon is no longer in business, and Dave is currently working with Air Power Systems. APS (http://www.airpowersystems.com.au/index.htm)

the whistle of a turbo is one of the sweetest sounds known to man.

Ain't that the truth. :D

I know Dave Inall (Incon owner) personally and my 1994 Mustang SVT Cobra was the prototype for his SN95 Mustang system.

Incon fabbed up the kit and when it was done it laid down 430 rwhp/495 ft.lbs. at 7psi on a 245HP SVT 5.0 liter, the car never hit 122 mph in the 1/4 mile but ran a consistent 116 mph.

Car went on to be featured in Super Ford magazine (March 1999).

FYI: Incon is no longer in business, and Dave is currently working with Air Power Systems. APS (http://www.airpowersystems.com.au/index.htm)


I know the Incon story and Dave Inall as well. I can't speak as to what kind of numbers your car put down, afterall it had different heads/cam, less boost, was undoubtedly tested at a different track, and then there's the question of driveline setup, tires, weather, etc as well. The car that I referred to belonged to a friend of mine; I helped install the kit, and witnessed the before/after runs at NRP.

I can't speak as to what kind of numbers your car put down, afterall it had different heads/cam, less boost, was undoubtedly tested at a different track.

The SVT Cobra had the better flowing GT40 heads/intake with the same T-5 tranny, all runs were at NRP (Norwalk Raceway Park).


The car you speak of sounds like a guy I used to talk to a lot, but I can't remember his name, is this a blue 95 GT?

The SVT Cobra had the better flowing GT40 heads/intake with the same T-5 tranny, all runs were at NRP (Norwalk Raceway Park).
The car you speak of sounds like a guy I used to talk to a lot, but I can't remember his name, is this a blue 95 GT?


94-95 Cobras had iron GT40s, and a different cam (which may not have been beneficial compared to a stock GT stick when paired with a turbo). I had a 94 Cobra previous to my 98.
The car I'm referring to was red and owned by a kid/guy named Aaron from Vermillion, OH. I believe I know of the blue/green 95 GT you may be thinking of, I'm pretty sure it too was an Incon car, and I'm almost positive I saw it at NRP on occassion--it also made huge gains with the kit.
I can't tell by your wording but did you say that you tested your Cobra at NRP as well?

94-95 Cobras had iron GT40s, and a different cam (which may not have been beneficial compared to a stock GT stick when paired with a turbo). I had a 94 Cobra previous to my 98.

I believe the Cobra had the B cam, but I'm not 100% positive. It also had the better flowing intake.

Listen to this STS system. You want the Jeep to sound like that?

http://oi.b5z.net/i/u/1473169/f/Video/c6spool.mpg


I agree the turbo spooling sound is unreal but not theirs....

I can't tell by your wording but did you say that you tested your Cobra at NRP as well?

Yes I ran at Norwalk, I always was there for the Fun Ford Weekend, we used to tune the car at the now defunct Dynotech which was owned by Tim Ellis.

I believe the Cobra had the B cam, but I'm not 100% positive. It also had the better flowing intake.

You are correct they had Cobra intakes as well, but not B cams. I actually had a B cam in my 94, it loped pretty hard, but had to much duration to pass emissions.

Yes I ran at Norwalk, I always was there for the Fun Ford Weekend, we used to tune the car at the now defunct Dynotech which was owned by Tim Ellis.


I was out at Tim's shop a few times back in the day. He was one of the only guys at the time that could tune a KB/turbo stang.

Listen to this STS system. You want the Jeep to sound like that?

If it got me through the 1/4 mile in 11 seconds I could care less if it whistled dixie.

You are correct they had Cobra intakes as well, but not B cams. I actually had a B cam in my 94, it loped pretty hard, but had to much duration to pass emissions.
Maybe the E-cam then.......oh hell, I don't remember.

And emissions....hah. I laugh in the face of emissions. :D

I was out at Tim's shop a few times back in the day. He was one of the only guys at the time that could tune a KB/turbo stang.

Actually Mike Wesley was the brains behind the tuning, Tim just happened to have a Dynojet, I remember many a night with myself, Tim, Dave King, and Mike on the phone tuning that car.

Maybe the E-cam then.......oh hell, I don't remember.

And emissions....hah. I laugh in the face of emissions. :D

I ran off road pipes in all my stangs too. I just meant Ford couldn't use it (E cam isn't emissions legal either) in a production vehicle because of that reason. Believe it or not, the specs of a windsor 5.0 Cobra cam are/were pretty hard to come by. I can't even recall them off hand.

Remember, my non PC quote of the day: Turn the key and kill a tree, stomp the floor and kill some more. :D

Actually Mike Wesley was the brains behind the tuning, Tim just happened to have a Dynojet, I remember many a night with myself, Tim, Dave King, and Mike on the phone tuning that car.

I don't doubt Tim was Mike's understudy but I do remember Tim doing quite a bit of tuning--at least when I was there. So are you in Northern, OH?

If it got me through the 1/4 mile in 11 seconds I could care less if it whistled dixie.
hahaha true!

So are you in Northern, OH?

No, at the time I lived in Michigan.

I want to add some Con's to my list for the STS. I was convinced that this kit was a good alternative for those w/o the money to do it the correct way. Now I am not so sure.

For the first time I saw kit on a vehicle. The kit is very innovative and that is where it stops. Still not much protection for water. They put on a nylon sleeve over the filter and a plate to block the bottom. You have to electrically pump the oil feed so if something goes wrong pump,sensor, line pop off you may find out too late. Seeing that the turbo is either under you or in the back of the car, the oil will just leak out or coat the bottom of your car.

The biggest Con is what the Tell you to do.

To avoid hydro locking your motor you need to drill a hole in the intercooler, and either put a plug in the hole and drain it every so often or just leave it open???

With the piping being so long i guess there is a tendency for lots of condensation build up? I have never seen or heard of this on a Normal setup!!!

Another slow vette with a rear mount turbo. (this was the cars first pass)
Video (http://www.thevettedoctors.com/videos/2007boweryboy/boweryboy-854at164.wmv)

LOL, how do they do it with the turbo mounted the wrong way? :D

Another slow vette with a rear mount turbo. (this was the cars first pass)
Video (http://www.thevettedoctors.com/videos/2007boweryboy/boweryboy-854at164.wmv)

LOL, how do they do it with the turbo mounted the wrong way? :D

LOL
I just noticed mine are installed incorrectly on my vette also :eek:

has any one tried krc turbo kit for our jeep ???????????