Guys and Gals,

I know speculation on Chrysler being sold to someone has been floating on the boards...


Here is confirmation on those rumors. What does this mean for future vehicle line-ups like ours....
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17944679/

I'm guessing the Japs are in talks.

That's good for future realiability.....but BAD for future power IMHO.

less power for sure

barho

I'm guessing the Japs are in talks.

That's good for future realiability.....but BAD for future power IMHO.
38 Minutes Ago 09:05 AM

I hope this scenerio is not true. I'm hoping that the Germans can still help carry this badge.

mike123

less power for sure

How about the rumors of a bigger output in 09-10? I hope that the vehicles dont rewind to the #'s of the 80's....

Is it me or did it sound like mercedes is blaming their quality issues on chrysler -lol, right, as if they had the same perfect running machines of the 80's before chrysler

I will take a VW,Audi,Porshe or BMW purchase. WE should see the same type of power but from more fuel efficient vehicles with very nice interiors. Or maybe we will have a hybrid SRT8.:mad: from the japs. I would prefer a plutonium powered, 1,000 gigawatt unit.

Hell, if they get that flux capacitor dialed in we'll be going back to the future!

We could be driving the stars of the 2037 Barrett-Jackson. The high water mark for factory HP in a Jeep vehicle... EVER.



Let's hope not.

If this does happens here soon, what's the chances the new owners bag the 6.4L HEMI engine all together? :(

If this does happens here soon, what's the chances the new owners bag the 6.4L HEMI engine all together? :(

My thoughts exactly...

If this does happens here soon, what's the chances the new owners bag the 6.4L HEMI engine all together? :(
Perhaps the same chance that the new owners might be performance orientated and replace it with a 6.9 liter instead...

This doesn't sound good for us! :mad: :(

I'm just speechless over the whole thing. So many what-if's....

The new Motor trend has a little write up about what Chysler has to do to become profitable again. So maybe they won't sell, hopefully!!!

I just noticed that the article was written today so that sucks!

I think I'm turning japanese, I think I'm turning japanese, I really think so!!!

I have said that before, not to long ago----right Ge2!!:D

I was never politically correct, so here is how I see it...

"Chrysler has struggled as American buyers have flocked to more fuel-efficient vehicles."

If they sell and the new buyer goes GREEN, I am putting in an order for the new Blue Devil and plan to keep the Jeep/Vette forever! The 80's cars sucked, I lived thru that as a teenager...NOT going to do that it again! As for the future, we may find an answer to refine America's oil reserves that are held captive in shale, wouldn't that shock the hell out of the middle east!

Thats my take...

I believe I heard some where (some podcast science show) that in order for Shale extraction to be profitable oil needs to be @ $84-$87 a barrel or higher, and the prep time to get the oil from shale is about a year long.

MB is having fits over the very high organized labor and legacy costs of the Chrysler unit. When last in talks with the UAW, the unions did not offer the concessions that were given to Ford and GM because Chrysler was not "in the same financial situation" at that time....in other words the DCX book cookers were'nt as fast and effective as those at Ford and GM.

None of the potential suitors remaining are japanese auto companies as I understand it currently. Last I heard it was;

1. Magna, a Canadian supplier, plus some "investors"??
2. GM, with an insult of an offer.
3. An investment group probably interested in cannibalizing the assets more than making cars.
4. A no sale and MB keeps it (very unlikely by most estimates for the reasons stated above).

Nissan-Renault was out of the running as of about 1 month ago (but who knows?).

Regarding the products.....I think, and hope that they will survive, but it very much an unknown.

Add the growing anti CO2 politics with government penalties for gas guzzlers likely to sharply increase. We could well be in real trouble in regards to future performance products. I certainly hope not.

If things are shaky for the GC SRT8, imagine how unlikely future products like the Viper are. Hopefully at least a few of the 600HP 08 Vipers will make it into production before the ax falls.

These are all great questions and answers. One of my own;

What happens to DCX in the meantime. Like what about parts for our vehicles down the road. More expenive or not even available?

How bout future vehicles that are/have been told that production on them will start?

Man this whole ordeal is really freaking me out! Anyone out there that can offer suggestions that will relieve my heartache?

These are all great questions and answers. One of my own;

What happens to DCX in the meantime. Like what about parts for our vehicles down the road. More expenive or not even available?

How bout future vehicles that are/have been told that production on them will start?

Man this whole ordeal is really freaking me out! Anyone out there that can offer suggestions that will relieve my heartache?

A few beers and a margarita or two, usually works for me!:D

[QUOTE=Godiwant1]I believe I heard some where (some podcast science show) that in order for Shale extraction to be profitable oil needs to be @ $84-$87 a barrel or higher, and the prep time to get the oil from shale is about a year long.

I hope that is true...let's wait and see!

Now that i think about it for a second, Chrysler really does not have any vehicles that would call for it to stay alive besides the caravan. Dodge and Jeep should be very strong sub companies. So maybe they will stay alive and focus more on these two brands instead.

Like Oldsmobile.

It's a mess which started sense day one w/the so-called merger. There have been German investers not happy w/being involved w/an American company sense the beginning(& vise versa). One such German invester went as far to say they shouldn't have included the Chrysler name w/Daimler because it's tarnishing the brand. IMO, that's crap. What's really confusing is that GM & Ford lost a lot more than Chrysler in '06, so why are the Germans so worked up? Oh, it's OK for Chrysler to help MB in thier time of need, but not the other way around.

Buy your 08 Challenger as soon as possible. It could be the last:)

I mentioned there were rumors going around during the last Detroit Auto Show. The Big German Shop is bruising itself considering what they paid 25B and what they are being offered which is not even half of that. If they give in, I'm sure the white wash painted on the Chrysler elephant will rinse right off after a year, and we will be charging with the herd with our loud snorts all too soon!


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I believe I heard some where (some podcast science show) that in order for Shale extraction to be profitable oil needs to be @ $84-$87 a barrel or higher, and the prep time to get the oil from shale is about a year long.

Not sure about the prep time, but I believe the process is already profitable at todays current prices, but I could be wrong.

I do know that the oil sands in Canada are definately profitable at todays prices, but it takes a lot less energy/cash to extrude oil from oil sands than it does from our oil shale. However, if it is profitable we have the largest deposits of oil shales in the world, by far, and I have read somewhere before that the amount of oil found within those shales in the western states is greater than the total reserve of Saudi Arabia!!!

I believe that number is about right translated to pump prices of 3.50-4.00 a gallon. I don't know about prep time, but once it is started/after the first year, the supply should remain continuous. It may be slow to increase output though.

The process of oil extraction from shale goes something like this:
First they drill deep deep holes among the shale field (if its ok to call it a field) and insert heating lines. The shale is heated which draws out the oil, and then they pump it out, which is many wells but not different from oil. The biggest concern is the contamination of water (EPA + DNR) around the shale, so what they do is drill more deep deep holes and install coolant lines to thicken the oil so it will seep no further. Now this helps explain the cost verus Dollars per barrel. In the same report I heard it was stated that the amount of oil from shale is greater than the amount of crude in Saudi Arabia and the lot. If I can find the podcast I will relisten and get accurate details.

A few beers and a margarita or two, usually works for me!:D

AAAARRRRRRRR!!!! Great suggestion! :)

Good news guys just in off the press;

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17967790/

Great description Godiwant1!! So much for Al chicken little Gores' doom and gloom about using up all of the fossil fuels in the next 10 years.

[QUOTE=Godiwant1]I believe I heard some where (some podcast science show) that in order for Shale extraction to be profitable oil needs to be @ $84-$87 a barrel or higher, and the prep time to get the oil from shale is about a year long.

I hope that is true...let's wait and see!

One reason why I bought my SRT8 was after reading this article out of the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists. We are probably in the last dozen years of super petrol performance! Live it up while you have it!

http://www.mindfully.org/Energy/2005/Oil-Caveat-Empty1may05.htm

Yes and no. We may be entering a dark age for petrol based performance, but it has nothing to do with science, and everything to do with politics. In particular, socialist and liberal politics aimed at eroding personal freedoms for bigger government. The "science" that they are using as justification for this robbery is pure fiction.

Read Chris Horners' book "Global Warming, a politically Incorrect Guide to Global Warming" to find out a lot more.

BTW, if we/the public speak out and resist, AL Gore and his hysterical fiction can be stopped before it is too late.