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: Blower or Stroker?


SRT-King
10-27-2009, 01:46 PM
Yes i know the title sounds bad.... but what do u think will provide the best results on the track?

SCAM
10-27-2009, 02:26 PM
Blower for better track times.

Stroker for all around power. and reliability... IMO

Unless.....
You get stroker for all around power, and introduce a small.... say 175 shot of spray for track times :D
That should get some pretty impressive times for sure!!

rwboring
10-27-2009, 02:39 PM
i think id rather be blown then stroked

Vinnysrt8
10-27-2009, 02:40 PM
Well im gonna be blown really soon

rwboring
10-27-2009, 02:43 PM
Well im gonna be blown really soon

i used to be blown... now i wish everyday i was blown again!

YoungMedic23
10-27-2009, 02:45 PM
Stay stock....it's the bomb!

SCAM
10-27-2009, 02:52 PM
Id rather be strokin than Cummin

No doubt!

jdoc7
10-27-2009, 02:58 PM
From previous posts, it looks like 11.5 is the lowest for both a 426/440 stroker and a Vortech. So the question are, price, ease of maintenance, driveablity, reliability. If I had to choose one or the other, I'd go 426 and call it a day. Before my blower, the 426 was very tractable and reliable around town. Plus, you could always add a blower later as the ground work is already there.

sarge
10-27-2009, 03:12 PM
From previous posts, it looks like 11.5 is the lowest for both a 426/440 stroker and a Vortech. So the question are, price, ease of maintenance, driveablity, reliability. If I had to choose one or the other, I'd go 426 and call it a day. Before my blower, the 426 was very tractable and reliable around town. Plus, you could always add a blower later as the ground work is already there.


"From previous posts, it looks like 11.5 is the lowest for both a 426/440 stroker and a Vortech".

Just to clarify, no one on this forum has installed a Vortech on a 426 and provided results. All current Vortechs are on 6.1stock blocks. All current "other" blowers are on 426 equipped Jeeps. Now put a Vortech on a 426 and you will have a different story.

I do strongly agree with everything else you stated.


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jdoc7
10-27-2009, 03:16 PM
"From previous posts, it looks like 11.5 is the lowest for both a 426/440 stroker and a Vortech".

Just to clarify, no one on this forum has installed a Vortech on a 426 and provided results. All current Vortechs are on 6.1stock blocks. All current "other" blowers are on 426 equipped Jeeps. Now put a Vortech on a 426 and you will have a different story.

I do strongly agree with everything else you stated.


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I never stated a 426 + Vortech combo was ever used. His question was stroker OR blower. I merely stated that the 426's and 440's out there have run 11.5 and that the Vortech has run 11.5 Vortech+stroker would be less but he didn't ask about that combo. Looking at my wording, I can see how you would have read it that way.

Knuckles
10-27-2009, 03:21 PM
Hopefully one of these days we will see a 426 with a Vortech! So who is gonna be the first on here??

SVT_GT500
10-27-2009, 03:26 PM
Well im gonna be blown really soon
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

1BAMFR
10-27-2009, 05:13 PM
I think Sarges 426 and my Vortech 6.1 aren't "typical" results

I think in reality a 426 is more like an 11.9'ish and a Vortech on a stock 6.1 is more like a 12.0'ish

To answer the OP I would do both.....Stroker and a Blower

Andy
10-27-2009, 05:19 PM
I have a vortech going on a 426 Jeep right now.

1BAMFR
10-27-2009, 05:25 PM
I have a vortech going on a 426 Jeep right now.

HHP has one too

Can't wait to see those 1/4 mile times

YoungMedic23
10-27-2009, 05:44 PM
I bet i can hit 7.1's-7.2's with my Vortech in the 1/8th.....:blah:

Give me a few days

jim383
10-27-2009, 05:52 PM
To be honest i think the strocker would be more driveable and last longer than a blower set up on a stock set up. If PAUL is runing a 6.1 and wants to get into the 7.1/7.2s he will need tires or a big wt reduction or NOS and he will need a roll bar if he goes faster than a 7.25 in the 1/8th. PAUL there is a driver in our group that weighs 125 lbs and im sure he could drive your JEEP to them numbers without and more mods. His name is ANDREW (KPRACER ) who drives an 08 SRT-8 JEEP when we race.

hawkman996
10-27-2009, 06:38 PM
I say a blower, and a vortech at that as it has been the best bang for the buck and the one with the least amount of problems. Although the magnuson coming out could be promising.

The strokers are great too but from what I've noticed on this forum is it involves a lot more downtime and if you pick the wrong builder you will have a weak motor and possibly a blown motor after a few thousand miles. Juniors 440 and Sarges 426 are the only N/A strokers I see putting down great times.

Knuckles
10-27-2009, 06:46 PM
I have a vortech going on a 426 Jeep right now.

Nice! I can't wait to see the numbers at the track or on the Dyno on a setup like this. This setup has been on my mind for a while now. Cool!

YoungMedic23
10-27-2009, 06:50 PM
To be honest i think the strocker would be more driveable and last longer than a blower set up on a stock set up. If PAUL is runing a 6.1 and wants to get into the 7.1/7.2s he will need tires or a big wt reduction or NOS and he will need a roll bar if he goes faster than a 7.25 in the 1/8th. PAUL there is a driver in our group that weighs 125 lbs and im sure he could drive your JEEP to them numbers without and more mods. His name is ANDREW (KPRACER ) who drives an 08 SRT-8 JEEP when we race.

What about more power, more cooling, and better tires???

I don't believe in weight reduction of a 4,800 truck....I like to know my around town speed not better numbers

To me it all comes down to making the most of what you have, consistent racing habits, and thinking outside the box on what works best....

How many blown lx's or jeeps have built ice boxes, added dual heat exchangers, and heat wrapped the cooling engine components?

I don't think any have done all those....so I'm sure I will show the full potential of the Vortech when done with efficiency and done safely

Keoni ran a 7.29 I dot see why I can't when I've ran consistent 7.3's

YoungMedic23
10-27-2009, 06:58 PM
But for fun maybe I'll pull the seats, my kicker subs, and let Andrew drive but I won't hide it from the forums or claim it as MY best time

Chris Hull@TTC
10-27-2009, 07:15 PM
I think first you need to decide your longterm plans with the Jeep.

1/ If you are looking to sell it in the future then best value is stock. In that case I would say Vortec. The kit new is reasonable and you could resell it for like 3500 easy, and go back to stock and nobody the wiser.

2/ If you want supercharger power at your foot immediately than a stroker is the way to go. I recommend going with one company that warranty's its product and where the work is done. If something goes wrong you could end up carrying a real expensive bag!!

3/ 440!!!! lol

jdoc7
10-27-2009, 07:30 PM
I recommend going with one company that warranty's its product and where the work is done. If something goes wrong you could end up carrying a real expensive bag!!

Now that is THE BEST advise in this whole thread right there! Heed that advice to the tee whether you go stroker or supercharger!

Knuckles
10-27-2009, 08:30 PM
Now that is THE BEST advise in this whole thread right there! Heed that advice to the tee whether you go stroker or supercharger!

Yeah I agree Jdoc becuase then one vendor can't point the finger at the other when compenonts don't play well with each other.

rwboring
10-28-2009, 06:15 AM
Id rather be strokin than Cummin



actually i think it is "stop strokin and start cummin" or "quit strokin and cummin and take it to the MAX"

I bet i can hit 7.1's-7.2's with my Vortech in the 1/8th.....:blah:

Give me a few days

is that the 11.57 times with the vortech or the new times with the vortech... is that including the other mods (ie sprintbooster) or just a vortech?

YoungMedic23
10-29-2009, 03:35 AM
actually i think it is "stop strokin and start cummin" or "quit strokin and cummin and take it to the MAX"



is that the 11.57 times with the vortech or the new times with the vortech... is that including the other mods (ie sprintbooster) or just a vortech?

That's the time i ran in Jan 09'

Just had Vortech, Toyo tires, and Borla S

I never had a sprint booster that worked for me

I have yet to my Jeep back and run better times...should have it back today

gabe74gt
10-30-2009, 12:48 PM
what about sizzler. still i think blower when on tracks and stroker when on hills

Vinnysrt8
10-30-2009, 02:57 PM
what about sizzler. still i think blower when on tracks and stroker when on hills

huh...............

Panzer69
02-10-2010, 10:15 AM
What about a build up 6.1, head, intake, cam throtle body?
What does that run, must be close to a blower.

hawkman996
02-10-2010, 10:34 AM
Most with heads/cam/ported intake run anywhere between 12.2-12.5 in the 1/4. Keoni did go 11.9 in cold weather but he averaged closer to a 12.2 I believe. I know there is one other guy that went 11.9 w/heads and cam with his own mix of race fuel.

With good tuning you are looking at low 12's in cold to cool weather and mid 12's in warm to hot weather.

TR930
02-10-2010, 12:03 PM
I think first you need to decide your longterm plans with the Jeep.

1/ If you are looking to sell it in the future then best value is stock. In that case I would say Vortec. The kit new is reasonable and you could resell it for like 3500 easy, and go back to stock and nobody the wiser.

2/ If you want supercharger power at your foot immediately than a stroker is the way to go. I recommend going with one company that warranty's its product and where the work is done. If something goes wrong you could end up carrying a real expensive bag!!

3/ 440!!!! lol

BINGO. You all know IF a 6.4 Jeep comes out you will want one. Some of us will need to trade in the rig. #1 sounds best to me to recover most costs, go fast and return the Jeep to stock to trade in or sell private.