: These jeeps are just not that impressive from a roll...
SmartMoney 10-12-2009, 10:38 PM http://s98.photobucket.com/albums/l264/Q817/?action=view¤t=11102009044.flv
its his friends Stage 2 GTI(Atp DP, neuspeed CAI) vs a Jeep SRT-8 with exhaust and throttle body
Mike_Levy 10-12-2009, 10:45 PM Well of course, if the SRT8 is modded to be weak. Guy is stupid and has two mods that do nothing. Put on a CAI and a tune there would be a big difference.
navyavi469 10-12-2009, 10:47 PM electronic throttle body, torque management, heavy as balls, no AWD advantage, geared for 0-60...
if you want to make a brick go fast from a roll get a poweradder, it really wakes these trucks up.
ROADRACINGSRT8 10-12-2009, 10:48 PM Vortech..........
SrtJake 10-12-2009, 10:56 PM Here is indisputable evidence that the Jeep needs to be in the right gear from a roll..
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/WRX-vs-SRT8-Jeep_156227.htm
JJJ93z 10-12-2009, 11:00 PM Very poor mods, not impressed with the video or driver skills.
ROADRACINGSRT8 10-12-2009, 11:06 PM Here is indisputable evidence that the Jeep needs to be in the right gear from a roll..
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/WRX-vs-SRT8-Jeep_156227.htm
Definately helps to down shift and get in the right power range or else...well u saw the first run from a roll...
m4xm1l10n 10-12-2009, 11:23 PM Well of course, if the SRT8 is modded to be weak. Guy is stupid and has two mods that do nothing. Put on a CAI and a tune there would be a big difference.
Agreed !!!
His stupid mods is making him slower , But mentally he thinks he's fast because of the mods . Lol
Chris Hull@TTC 10-12-2009, 11:30 PM You just need a 440, check out me against SL63 AMG from about 60mph roll. And yes , he is racing!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMOSaQ10uxA
oman srt8 10-13-2009, 04:52 AM exhaust and TB only !!!
put some CAI and CMR and see it ..
Vinnysrt8 10-13-2009, 05:47 AM his mods r waste of money he need cai tune and exhaust.
W/ out a cmr all mods are pretty much useless...
Upgraded TB????? I dont even have that! Y would you get this first :confused:
1BAMFR 10-13-2009, 06:41 AM Simple solution..........More Horspower
That POS GTI would have been looking at 2 Borla pipes in 1 second after that 3rd horn beep and would have pulled 15 car lengths on him before I would have felt bad and let out of it
BOYCHIKS 10-13-2009, 07:01 AM Just the driver. It doesn't even look like he floored it... Poor video, I don't agree.
And really from a roll, the jeep still will get up and go.
Joe Las Vegas 10-13-2009, 02:46 PM Just the driver. It doesn't even look like he floored it... Poor video, I don't agree.
And really from a roll, the jeep still will get up and go.
I agree, it looked like 2 old farts trying to race, nothing impressive, that's for sure.
m4xm1l10n 10-13-2009, 02:55 PM Simple solution..........More Horspower
That POS GTI would have been looking at 2 Borla pipes in 1 second after that 3rd horn beep and would have pulled 15 car lengths on him before I would have felt bad and let out of it
Against you HAHAHAHAHAH He wouldn't stand a chance hahaha .
video of me vs a 300+FWH Turbo GTI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYfc3aww2VM&feature=player_embedded
eddiefig 10-13-2009, 02:56 PM You just need a 440, check out me against SL63 AMG from about 60mph roll. And yes , he is racing!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMOSaQ10uxA
Good god, Chris. Yours from a roll takes off better than mine from a dig. Lol. You left that Benz pretty hard. Lol. I have no idea how much money you put into your truck but how much is that Benzy worth. Lol.
CentralTexHemi 10-13-2009, 02:57 PM Driver error for sure but he lost win for the better GTI driver.
jim383 10-13-2009, 03:10 PM GEE i thought drag racing was always from a dead stop? I been drag racing for 49 yrs never ever raced in NHRA from a roll lol. Maybe IHRA races from a roll LOL.
pjs1965 10-13-2009, 05:13 PM So the title of this thread should be "This jeep driver is just not that impressive from a roll..."
Grip Grip 10-13-2009, 05:31 PM Truth be told, our Jeeps aren't made for "roll" racing and shine from a dig, so is it any surprise a stock Jeep isn't killing aerodynamically unchallenged vehicles-NO. :)
By the way, my Jeep's a mother ****er from a roll. :D
miamimac 10-13-2009, 05:47 PM Truth be told, our Jeeps aren't made for "roll" racing and shine from a dig, so is it any surprise a stock Jeep isn't killing aerodynamically unchallenged vehicles-NO. :)
By the way, my Jeep's a mother ****er from a roll. :D
LMAO...so is mine...I'd love to run into on of those GTwhatever from a roll, from a dig, in reverse or sideways...I'll have them choking on the meth fumes in my exhaust.:D
rumplemenz 10-14-2009, 11:28 AM Truth be told, our Jeeps aren't made for "roll" racing and shine from a dig, so is it any surprise a stock Jeep isn't killing aerodynamically unchallenged vehicles-NO. :)
By the way, my Jeep's a mother ****er from a roll. :D
lol.. thats funny... i love it when my iced tea finds its way thru my gd daahamm nostrils.... damit...
BTW... his mods are hysterical.. i guess he doesnt have internet connection b/c he surely didnt take the time to look on this forum for some advice... and i beg to differ as well... im lightly modded and if the rig isnt in a dead zone shes a freak from a roll IMO..... ofcourse its not her point to shine but seriously... its a 5000 lbs suv so give it a break...
ONE MORE THING - i really should make a video of my 330 zhp vs the jeep at a 80 mph roll... you guys would appreciate it... It sure quites the speculation about its so so roll potential..... a stock gti is comparable to a stock zhp and that may be an overstatement b/c ive ran with gti's before in my bimmer and they arent superior at all...
i will try and make a vid soon... boy does the jeep tear the bimmer up :) and the bimmer is no slouch.. 6 sec 0-60 with a 14 to low 14 1/4 is pretty decent
Knuckles 10-14-2009, 11:33 AM You just need a 440, check out me against SL63 AMG from about 60mph roll. And yes , he is racing!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMOSaQ10uxA
LOL! THat video is sick bro!!!
Knuckles 10-14-2009, 11:37 AM Against you HAHAHAHAHAH He wouldn't stand a chance hahaha .
video of me vs a 300+FWH Turbo GTI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYfc3aww2VM&feature=player_embedded
Nice video bro! BTW you have to get them 2006 Cadillac CTS-V pads for the rear bro;)
S8ER01Z 10-14-2009, 12:25 PM Truth be told, our Jeeps aren't made for "roll" racing and shine from a dig, so is it any surprise a stock Jeep isn't killing aerodynamically unchallenged vehicles-NO. :)
x2........
veyronSRT8@TTCreations 10-14-2009, 12:28 PM try from an 80 roll. haha
2002_Viper_GTS_ACR 10-14-2009, 07:37 PM WTF ??!! I wish I could really write what I want to say to some stupid Fck who says these jeeps arent quick even from a roll. That video looked like two douche bags who didnt know how to race (1st off) and second where is this ass-whoopin that makes it look like the srt8 jeep isnt fast? they are neck and neck minus a slight jump the ****-box got , and he only pulls ahead once the jeep backs off.
I own a 10 second viper that traps in the 135+mph range in the 1/4 and it yanks the *****in doors off 99% of the sheet I've bumped into on the streets. (certainly i know I can be beaten). And I tell you what, I can JUMP right into the jeep after just ripping the tires lose in the viper, and it STILL feels quick as sheet to me.
Anyone who says these things aren't quick even from a roll, I say F-YOU ! period.
m4xm1l10n 10-14-2009, 08:33 PM Nice video bro! BTW you have to get them 2006 Cadillac CTS-V pads for the rear bro;)
Lol !!! it's because it's new pads , I had the yellow stuff and it was loud for the firs 1000 miles but i switch to Redstuff for low dust purpose and i had it installed the day before the track that's why , no more brake noise :D ALL GONE and it seams to perform better than yellow stuff .
What you call CTS-V Pads is Akebono pads , I've being using that for years on my 2 Benz , but no luck on a matching set for the Jeep .
rwboring 10-14-2009, 08:54 PM Against you HAHAHAHAHAH He wouldn't stand a chance hahaha .
video of me vs a 300+FWH Turbo GTI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYfc3aww2VM&feature=player_embedded
talk about how horrible the driver is that this thread is based on...
you had to back up at the light and still beat his ass haha... who knows what mods he had... but still funny...
"how do these lights work again?, why is it called a christmas tree" lol just playin man...:D
WTF ??!! I wish I could really write what I want to say to some stupid Fck who says these jeeps arent quick even from a roll. That video looked like two douche bags who didnt know how to race (1st off) and second where is this ass-whoopin that makes it look like the srt8 jeep isnt fast? they are neck and neck minus a slight jump the ****-box got , and he only pulls ahead once the jeep backs off.
I own a 10 second viper that traps in the 135+mph range in the 1/4 and it yanks the *****in doors off 99% of the sheet I've bumped into on the streets. (certainly i know I can be beaten). And I tell you what, I can JUMP right into the jeep after just ripping the tires lose in the viper, and it STILL feels quick as sheet to me.
Anyone who says these things aren't quick even from a roll, I say F-YOU ! period.
^ Agreed brother!
GTI's are no threat to our beasts. Looking at the mods the jeep has... The owner of that truck has no knowledge of what mods it takes to go fast. I'm wondering... I bet that Jeep is slower than when it was stock :p
and smartmoney posts more bull**** about how slow we are, gets called out, and runs back into the hole from whence he came
nice life guy :rolleyes:
m4xm1l10n 10-15-2009, 10:15 PM and smartmoney posts more bull**** about how slow we are, gets called out, and runs back into the hole from whence he came
nice life guy :rolleyes:
No **** hum!!!! :eek:
rwboring 10-16-2009, 06:33 AM and smartmoney posts more bull**** about how slow we are, gets called out, and runs back into the hole from whence he came
nice life guy :rolleyes:
shall we call it envy or jealousy?
rumplemenz 10-16-2009, 09:32 AM WTF ??!! I wish I could really write what I want to say to some stupid Fck who says these jeeps arent quick even from a roll. That video looked like two douche bags who didnt know how to race (1st off) and second where is this ass-whoopin that makes it look like the srt8 jeep isnt fast? they are neck and neck minus a slight jump the ****-box got , and he only pulls ahead once the jeep backs off.
I own a 10 second viper that traps in the 135+mph range in the 1/4 and it yanks the *****in doors off 99% of the sheet I've bumped into on the streets. (certainly i know I can be beaten). And I tell you what, I can JUMP right into the jeep after just ripping the tires lose in the viper, and it STILL feels quick as sheet to me.
Anyone who says these things aren't quick even from a roll, I say F-YOU ! period.
i love this guy.. you sick bastard... lol...
very well said... !!! nice seeing fellas tell ya how it is... sweet
m4xm1l10n 10-16-2009, 09:40 AM ^^^ HAHAHAHAHA smartmoney Come out Come Out wherever you are :eek:
eddiefig 10-16-2009, 09:46 AM http://s98.photobucket.com/albums/l264/Q817/?action=view¤t=11102009044.flv
its his friends Stage 2 GTI(Atp DP, neuspeed CAI) vs a Jeep SRT-8 with exhaust and throttle body
Thats like taking an Enzyte and wondering why you don't have a 13 inch d**k. Lol. Get the right mods and have it in the right gear. (Autostick)
http://i655.photobucket.com/albums/uu274/eddiefig/Misc%20for%20Emailing/Enzyte-tshirt-Swelling.jpg
smartmoney got scared off guys....
I kinda dont blame him... he got flamed as soon as the thread opened.
But lets be honest guys... The jeep really isnt impressive from a roll... In 4th gear! :p
m4xm1l10n 10-16-2009, 10:19 AM smartmoney got scared off guys....
I kinda dont blame him... he got flamed as soon as the thread opened.
But lets be honest guys... The jeep really isnt impressive from a roll... In 4th gear! :p
Well comparing it with super sports cars yes ;)
YoungMedic23 10-16-2009, 10:24 AM I beat a turbo LS1 camaro from a roll! :D
In this video i destroy a $100k+ Maserati on the freeway....with intake and exhaust
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a8Rv1vh27I
m4xm1l10n 10-16-2009, 10:31 AM Paul Was that before the Vortech vs the Cobra ?
eddiefig 10-16-2009, 10:33 AM I beat a turbo LS1 camaro from a roll! :D
In this video i destroy a $100k+ Maserati on the freeway....with intake and exhaust
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a8Rv1vh27I
You beat that blown Avalanche pre-Vortech?
YoungMedic23 10-16-2009, 10:44 AM You beat that blown Avalanche pre-Vortech?
PRE Vortech:D
YoungMedic23 10-16-2009, 10:44 AM Paul Was that before the Vortech vs the Cobra ?
PRE vortech...and he had Nitto 555r's
Knuckles 10-16-2009, 10:53 AM I beat a turbo LS1 camaro from a roll! :D
In this video i destroy a $100k+ Maserati on the freeway....with intake and exhaust
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a8Rv1vh27I
Paul you are such a Bully man!! I love it! It reminds me of ME! hehehehehehe.. Plus you like to listen to Twista from CHI-TWN!! Thats lots of love to CHI-TWN bro! Cool!
SoonToBeSRT 10-16-2009, 04:24 PM Winston summed it up PERFECTLY! Thats all there is too it, few mods (a grand or so worth and the GTI = toast ;)
SrtJake 10-16-2009, 05:12 PM I would have love to seen you run the Maybach Paul..bust his ass in something that cost 1/10th,I can't believe the Cobra launched that well,even with 555r's.,
2002_Viper_GTS_ACR 10-17-2009, 08:26 PM Funny stuff with that Video Paulie. Or should I call you PEEPIN Paulie.
I usually dont find online videos all that much fun, usually close them before 1/2 way through, I watched yours to the end because it was entertaining. You're a smart ass, which I enjoy.
That Maserati is a fat pig though, so I don't consider it much of a high water mark, but then again, this is just a jeep, so maybe I am impressed after all. But it being a 100k+ car, there are certainly FAR better ones in that price range that would be MUCH better performer. Those are 'grand touring' cars, not speedsters. Basically I'm just trying to give them a little respect, thats not what they are made for. (But then again, nor are our jeeps necessarily). So good kill.
Cool video, now that your boosted, head up to Chicago, and lets have some FUN!!
Jon
281cammer 10-20-2009, 06:37 AM WTF ??!! I wish I could really write what I want to say to some stupid Fck who says these jeeps arent quick even from a roll. That video looked like two douche bags who didnt know how to race (1st off) and second where is this ass-whoopin that makes it look like the srt8 jeep isnt fast? they are neck and neck minus a slight jump the ****-box got , and he only pulls ahead once the jeep backs off.
I own a 10 second viper that traps in the 135+mph range in the 1/4 and it yanks the *****in doors off 99% of the sheet I've bumped into on the streets. (certainly i know I can be beaten). And I tell you what, I can JUMP right into the jeep after just ripping the tires lose in the viper, and it STILL feels quick as sheet to me.
Anyone who says these things aren't quick even from a roll, I say F-YOU ! period.
Nice!!!! What mods your GTS have? S/C?
2002_Viper_GTS_ACR 10-22-2009, 05:10 PM Nice!!!! What mods your GTS have? S/C?
Lol. It had various mods throught its life. It was boosted, and the results were less then impressive. I was turning like 11.40's under boost. But all else was pretty close to stock. The AFR was way off, motor popped, but Dodge covered it under warranty, and then on top of it, added better internal goodness (forged pistons, cam, better rods, balanced, blue printed, etc). (all on their dime :) ) And then I added a full exhaust back on, computer, roller rockers, and a few other things. And it put down like i said 480rwhp and like 550 rwtq. It was quick for a car back then (2003 ish), running 11.50's at 125mph. I have since sunset it with a 2006 Viper SRT10 Coupe that used to make 640 rwhp and turned a 10.90@132. Then to make things interesting, I modded her some more and last dyno'd 700+ rwhp, but have NOT been back to the track with her, to see what the new 10s will be :).
I love me some vipers... but this is my last one, I think I'll pick up a porsche Turbo next.. but no rush, I'm not getting rid of the viper for it though. I think vipers are great 'bad boy' cars and respond very well to mods, but I want something a little more 'refined' for my addition to the stable.
Jon
cjg454ss 01-08-2010, 05:51 AM lol 440 with juice or what not, stock with blower, these jeeps are not remotely fast from a roll. the awd does help from a dig but if they line up with any properly setup car..its good bye jeep. just too heavy.
my jeep got waxed by my f350 from a slow roll. jeep was stockish with a tune. f350 dually was tuned with an exhaust.
Chris Hull@TTC 01-08-2010, 06:18 AM lol 440 with juice or what not, stock with blower, these jeeps are not remotely fast from a roll. the awd does help from a dig but if they line up with any properly setup car..its good bye jeep. just too heavy.
my jeep got waxed by my f350 from a slow roll. jeep was stockish with a tune. f350 dually was tuned with an exhaust.
I roll race all the time and that is bs, I raced a 911 turbo from a roll at every speed and pulled away every time. Not to mention a stock zo6, Mustang with 13lbs, saleen mustang, head and cam c5 corvette, the list goes on all from a roll. here is a video, see if I dont pull up top.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMOSaQ10uxA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qcRkm7danA
Chris@LPM 01-08-2010, 06:22 AM lol 440 with juice or what not, stock with blower, these jeeps are not remotely fast from a roll. the awd does help from a dig but if they line up with any properly setup car..its good bye jeep. just too heavy.
my jeep got waxed by my f350 from a slow roll. jeep was stockish with a tune. f350 dually was tuned with an exhaust.
F350 weighs more. So the heavy theory does not work. Must be driver skills.
nyc84 01-08-2010, 06:52 AM GTR is slow from a roll also, does not mean it's slow though lol.
Speaking of a TB mod... I came across this little tidbit.
http://www.rdpstore.com/p-20-85mm-cnc-ported-throttle-body.aspx
Says the same thing for the Arrington 90. 35 rwhp from a throttle body? Even with tuning that sounds like an outlandish claim. In my reading through thousands of threads in the Intake/Exhaust forum I saw one guy that had the Arrington. He said it didn't make that much difference, and probably none on a stock engine.
Any thoughts?
wink
1BAMFR 01-08-2010, 10:05 AM lol 440 with juice or what not, stock with blower, these jeeps are not remotely fast from a roll. the awd does help from a dig but if they line up with any properly setup car..its good bye jeep. just too heavy.
my jeep got waxed by my f350 from a slow roll. jeep was stockish with a tune. f350 dually was tuned with an exhaust.
1) These Jeeps are extremely fast from a roll
2) Maybe your Jeep is not properly built or tuned
3) You got beat by a pick-up truck? Thats embarrassing..I wouldn't admit to something like that
Oh6Srtjeep 01-08-2010, 10:07 AM ^^^ LOL!! My jeep is stock and i havent had much trouble from a roll i dont even know why this thread was made up.
m4xm1l10n 01-08-2010, 10:10 AM 1) These Jeeps are extremely fast from a roll
2) Maybe your Jeep is not properly built or tuned
3) You got beat by a pick-up truck? Thats embarrassing..I wouldn't admit to something like that
So true ;)
cjg454ss 01-08-2010, 10:14 AM I roll race all the time and that is bs, I raced a 911 turbo from a roll at every speed and pulled away every time. Not to mention a stock zo6, Mustang with 13lbs, saleen mustang, head and cam c5 corvette, the list goes on all from a roll. here is a video, see if I dont pull up top.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMOSaQ10uxA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qcRkm7danA
mustang are junk so rule them out.
Stock Z06 C6? bs on that, C5 stock yea i believe you.
Is the time in your sig your best time or do you juice it also? Im not taking anything away from you or your jeep, it is fast, looks great..ect but mid to low 11s is not fast at all for a street CAR. My vette runs high 10s all day with a small h/c.
all in all, mod for mod, or stock for stock, the jeeps are underdogs from a roll. not matter what the setup and hp, an identical setup in a car would be much faster. it is cool though seeing a jeep move out.
cjg454ss 01-08-2010, 10:18 AM 1) These Jeeps are extremely fast from a roll
2) Maybe your Jeep is not properly built or tuned
3) You got beat by a pick-up truck? Thats embarrassing..I wouldn't admit to something like that
i wrote the jeep was stockish.
EXTREMELY FAST...are you smoking, what happend, you had a mid life crisis and bought a jeep and think you have the baddest ride around. the jeep is a 5000lb truck, heavy and not aerodynamic.
Why dont you bring that jeep to South Carolina, Your Jeep and my SS. from a dig and ill take off in 3rd gear. I will show you embarrassing.
m4xm1l10n 01-08-2010, 10:18 AM mustang are junk so rule them out.
Stock Z06 C6? bs on that, C5 stock yea i believe you.
Is the time in your sig your best time or do you juice it also? Im not taking anything away from you or your jeep, it is fast, looks great..ect but mid to low 11s is not fast at all for a street CAR. My vette runs high 10s all day with a small h/c.
all in all, mod for mod, or stock for stock, the jeeps are underdogs from a roll. not matter what the setup and hp, an identical setup in a car would be much faster. it is cool though seeing a jeep move out.
Bro go find out what 440 Cadged beast is first before you talk out of your Ass .
1BAMFR 01-08-2010, 10:23 AM i wrote the jeep was stockish.
EXTREMELY FAST...are you smoking, what happend, you had a mid life crisis and bought a jeep and think you have the baddest ride around. the jeep is a 5000lb truck, heavy and not aerodynamic.
Why dont you bring that jeep to South Carolina, Your Jeep and my SS. from a dig and ill take off in 3rd gear. I will show you embarrassing.
Noone gives a sh!t about your SS Bro........How can you compare your 8 second trailer queen to a full interior 5000 performance SUV....I'll line up against your Jeep anyday. I will be at Zmax this year....I'll spank your Jeep than you can buy me a beer for being such a pr!ck
Also mid-life crisis? I'm not 50 yrs. old......
1BAMFR 01-08-2010, 10:24 AM Bro go find out what 440 Cadged beast is first before you talk out of your Ass .
For Real, Little do you know Junior666 holds the current N/A record
Corvette zo6 for the loss
My tranny slipped out of gear in 2-3 shift... Even on a really bad run I BURNED a zo6.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B66-Wb1qIoY&feature=player_embedded
^^^ Did you see the BUS lengths???
and remember.... My tranny slipped out of gear, thats the ONLY way he even started to catch up with me :lol:
cjg454ss 01-08-2010, 10:29 AM Bro go find out what 440 Cadged beast is first before you talk out of your Ass .
bro..
your saying that a 5k lb non aerodynamic car with 600hp is fast from a roll. do the math and see how much hp.
600hp/5000lb = 0.12 power to weight ratio
400hp/3333.3lb = 0.12 power to weight
Now from a roll, traction not in the equation or aerodynamics. A 400hp car weighing 3333lbs will be even with a 5klb 600hp jeep. My FRC Vette weighs 3200lbs, 3420 with me in it. so i would need roughly 420hp to be a jeep making 600hp.
cjg454ss 01-08-2010, 10:33 AM Noone gives a sh!t about your SS Bro........How can you compare your 8 second trailer queen to a full interior 5000 performance SUV....I'll line up against your Jeep anyday. I will be at Zmax this year....I'll spank your Jeep than you can buy me a beer for being such a pr!ck
Also mid-life crisis? I'm not 50 yrs. old......
1bamfr- when is this event, i will try to attend with a 275 shot on my jeep. if it doesnt go 10.99s of faster..i should probably buy everyone a beer. but for real, maybe you guys find guys that cant drive but my jeep with the vortech ran 7.7s, and i could barely pull my friends c6 vette from a 50 roll. RDP tuned it also. maybe i have a lemon i dont know.
bro..
your saying that a 5k lb non aerodynamic car with 600hp is fast from a roll. do the math and see how much hp.
600hp/5000lb = 0.12 power to weight ratio
400hp/3333.3lb = 0.12 power to weight
Now from a roll, traction not in the equation or aerodynamics. A 400hp car weighing 3333lbs will be even with a 5klb 600hp jeep. My FRC Vette weighs 3200lbs, 3420 with me in it. so i would need roughly 420hp to be a jeep making 600hp.
^ lol.... Y are you trying to compare a 5000lb JEEP with a tiny 3200lb car???
This doesnt sound like a fair contest....
My Jeep w/o an interior or seats would also be VERY fast.... thanks for pointing that out. What we find so impressive is that the Jeep being so heavy is VERY fast... Even with 5 HUGE people in it.... can your vette do that? :D... Oooh and how about snow? can your vette handle that? :lol:
I got an idea.... Lets see you race one of us... from a dig... in the rain/snow :D
Ill buy you a beer if you can beat us in that vette
cjg454ss 01-08-2010, 10:39 AM ^ lol.... Y are you trying to compare a 5000lb JEEP with a tiny 3200lb car???
This doesnt sound like a fair contest....
My Jeep w/o an interior or seats would also be VERY fast.... thanks for pointing that out. What we find so impressive is that the Jeep being so heavy is VERY fast... Even with 5 HUGE people in it.... can your vette do that? :D
well i jus tknow my vette is 3200, yes it is small. my SS is 3400. my jeep is 5200. but for people to say they smoke corvette from a roll, or they never get beat from a roll. i was just putting it into perspective.
I guess my interpretation of VERY FAST is much faster than YOURs.
Im not trying make guys butt hurt over this, but i just see it hard to believe that a low power to weight ratio vehicle can be considered so fast. Its a jeep, looks great, has some good sound with decent power.
moron69_2000 01-08-2010, 10:42 AM 1bamfr- when is this event, i will try to attend with a 275 shot on my jeep. if it doesnt go 10.99s of faster..i should probably buy everyone a beer. but for real, maybe you guys find guys that cant drive but my jeep with the vortech ran 7.7s, and i could barely pull my friends c6 vette from a 50 roll. RDP tuned it also. maybe i have a lemon i dont know.
I REALLY DON'T WANT IN ON THIS ARGUMENT BUT I HAVE TO SAY, MY JEEP WITH BOLT ONS AND NOT ON THE BOTTLE WILL OUTRUN A C6 VETTE.... I AM THINKING YOU MIGHT NEED SOME TUNING MAYBE.... I AM NOT TRYING TO BRAG OR TALK DOWN ON YOUR JEEP. JUST MY THOUGHTS.
m4xm1l10n 01-08-2010, 10:47 AM bro..
your saying that a 5k lb non aerodynamic car with 600hp is fast from a roll. do the math and see how much hp.
600hp/5000lb = 0.12 power to weight ratio
400hp/3333.3lb = 0.12 power to weight
Now from a roll, traction not in the equation or aerodynamics. A 400hp car weighing 3333lbs will be even with a 5klb 600hp jeep. My FRC Vette weighs 3200lbs, 3420 with me in it. so i would need roughly 420hp to be a jeep making 600hp.
That's the hole beauty of it and Hard to believe a heavy SUV Is that impressive uh ? Here is me on a rolling race vs a 13 sec Mustang Mach1 look how easy i walked away from a roll and all i have is a CAI+TUNE , from a dig it wasn't even a fair race .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sV99LokSukw
mandan007 01-08-2010, 10:47 AM All right! I'm in the audience...:popblood:
cjg454ss 01-08-2010, 10:49 AM I REALLY DON'T WANT IN ON THIS ARGUMENT BUT I HAVE TO SAY, MY JEEP WITH BOLT ONS AND NOT ON THE BOTTLE WILL OUTRUN A C6 VETTE.... I AM THINKING YOU MIGHT NEED SOME TUNING MAYBE.... I AM NOT TRYING TO BRAG OR TALK DOWN ON YOUR JEEP. JUST MY THOUGHTS.
well the C6 went 8.2s at 93mph stock with an old guy driving, its a 6 speed auto. 430hp ls3.
my jeep went 7.71 at 91. he would beat me from a roll
Chris Hull@TTC 01-08-2010, 10:51 AM mustang are junk so rule them out.
Stock Z06 C6? bs on that, C5 stock yea i believe you.
Is the time in your sig your best time or do you juice it also? Im not taking anything away from you or your jeep, it is fast, looks great..ect but mid to low 11s is not fast at all for a street CAR. My vette runs high 10s all day with a small h/c.
all in all, mod for mod, or stock for stock, the jeeps are underdogs from a roll. not matter what the setup and hp, an identical setup in a car would be much faster. it is cool though seeing a jeep move out.
The time in my sig is na. Are you calling me a liar? I took a c5 corvette with a 383 stroker running 5 lbs of boost 3 times from a 60 mph roll!! Here is a video of a SScamaro with a Magnacharger 85.lbs barely taking me from a roll.Start at 5 minutes in.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dttIjARpWtI
bcm0018 01-08-2010, 10:57 AM I dont think they are too bad from a roll. I really want to ine my mustang up against one because I think it will be damn close!!
^ Nice vid!
I love the viper :D
He was trying to play the WHOLE time
cjg454ss 01-08-2010, 11:04 AM The time in my sig is na. Are you calling me a liar? I took a c5 corvette with a 383 stroker running 5 lbs of boost 3 times from a 60 mph roll!! Here is a video of a SScamaro with a Magnacharger 85.lbs barely taking me from a roll.Start at 5 minutes in.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dttIjARpWtI
you beat a C6 Z06 = bs
you beat a C5 Z06 = believable
just from past experience, a 383 ls1 with 5 lbs is 450-500rwhp probably. 5psi is nothing. 8.5psi can be run on a stock ls1 so thats roughly 450-500rwhp also.
450-500rwhp is nothing. You got beat by one and beat the other. Your jeep is the fastest!! Your properly setup 440 runs well. but to compare it to two cars with mild mods is nothing great.
if i turn down my boost to 8.5psi in the SS...you will be destroyed.
YoungMedic23 01-08-2010, 11:11 AM cjg i'll make a vid showing you a roll WOT in my Jeep
just leave the forums if you want to just argue with everybody
nobody likes you my man...ur like Rick G
moron69_2000 01-08-2010, 11:14 AM holy cow!!! lets just pull out our $*%#s and compare and see whose is biggest lol...
This thread may be a little out of hand....
cjg454ss 01-08-2010, 11:14 AM cjg i'll make a vid showing you a roll WOT in my Jeep
just leave the forums if you want to just argue with everybody
nobody likes you my man...ur like Rick G
im not arguing, just trying to inform the uninformed. the video is not needed. you have a 500hp 5000lb jeep. thats 0.10 power to weight, nothing impressive. thats 320hp in my 3200 vette. i will beat you.
Rambit 01-08-2010, 11:20 AM http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a10/Rambit/eyeroll.gifhttp://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a10/Rambit/eyeroll.gif
I see problems in two different threads today. It's gotta end.
Bernie
m4xm1l10n 01-08-2010, 11:25 AM I see no problems here Bernie :D
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/3899/eyeroll5088468.gif (http://img694.imageshack.us/i/eyeroll5088468.gif/)
YoungMedic23 01-08-2010, 11:31 AM I see problems with cjg
Chris@LPM 01-08-2010, 11:31 AM For a guy thats not impressed and doesn't care much of the Jeeps, he sure spends a lot of time on this forum running his mouth. You have no merit with us until you can prove yourself.
Rambit 01-08-2010, 11:32 AM I just see love.:D
Bernie
m4xm1l10n 01-08-2010, 11:35 AM For a guy thats not impressed and doesn't care much of the Jeeps, he sure spends a lot of time on this forum running his mouth. You have no merit with us until you can prove yourself.
+1
I got cjg454ss on lock down !!!
Keep it clean man!!!
http://savasplace.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/laughing_kitten.jpg
cjg454ss 01-08-2010, 11:39 AM guy i you said i didnt know anything when i said a 275 shot was on a stock jeep. you called bs all day. a guy is spraying a 300 shot on a stock 6.1 short block. yet you still wont believe it was done.. why do you belive one motor can take it and the other cannot just because i said it was done.
please help me. i do not understand ...seriously
Chris Hull@TTC 01-08-2010, 11:39 AM im not arguing, just trying to inform the uninformed. the video is not needed. you have a 500hp 5000lb jeep. thats 0.10 power to weight, nothing impressive. thats 320hp in my 3200 vette. i will beat you.
I race with a C5 corvette with heads and cam. He dynoed 465 rwhp at the vette doctors. When we race we are neck and neck. I have between 650 -670 crank horsepower. I completely understand the power to weight ratios. But, people actually drive these cars not race on paper. My 60-130 on a racelogic performance box is 10.5 seconds.
All we are asking for here is some proof of what you say, something to back up your statements. You said you made a video, share it, we all do.
cjg454ss 01-08-2010, 11:55 AM I race with a C5 corvette with heads and cam. He dynoed 465 rwhp at the vette doctors. When we race we are neck and neck. I have between 650 -670 crank horsepower. I completely understand the power to weight ratios. But, people actually drive these cars not race on paper. My 60-130 on a racelogic performance box is 10.5 seconds.
All we are asking for here is some proof of what you say, something to back up your statements. You said you made a video, share it, we all do.
ook ok. i did not have proof for the jeep with the 275 shot. but the fact that another guy did a 300 shot on a 6.1 should atleast let you guys know that it is possible and give some creditbility. right?
Chris Hull@TTC 01-08-2010, 12:06 PM ook ok. i did not have proof for the jeep with the 275 shot. but the fact that another guy did a 300 shot on a 6.1 should atleast let you guys know that it is possible and give some creditbility. right?
You have to understand that the SRT8 Jeep is bound by forces inside itself that have not yet been fully explored. The fastest Jeep to date ran 10.5 @ 128with 950 rwhp. Thats 1111 crank hp, which calculates to a 9.66 @ 138 mph. Are Jeeps are limited by forces that other vehicles are not. Guys with 6.1's in other vehicles are running big shots and getting 10's no problem. We havent.
Third Honk 01-08-2010, 12:18 PM In my limited roll experience with the Jeep it's a turd unless you go from a 50 or 80 roll :D I'm sure there's other good spots to go from but those are the two I know the gearing is great for a good start. Go from a 40 roll or 60 roll and stock civics best not be snoozing when the third honk beeps :D
Anything can be impressive, just depends on how much money you want to spend ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORJbaQgR9hQ
:eek:
cjg454ss 01-08-2010, 12:20 PM You have to understand that the SRT8 Jeep is bound by forces inside itself that have not yet been fully explored. The fastest Jeep to date ran 10.5 @ 128with 950 rwhp. Thats 1111 crank hp, which calculates to a 9.66 @ 138 mph. Are Jeeps are limited by forces that other vehicles are not. Guys with 6.1's in other vehicles are running big shots and getting 10's no problem. We havent.
ok now we are getting somewhere.,
1111 crank hp in a 5000lb suv, i dont have a calculator but what does that equate to a 9.66?
Chris@LPM 01-08-2010, 12:34 PM CJG as I explained months ago. There is a problem with running a large shot of NOS on the 6.1 Jeep. No one I know and I have not heard of anyone making it work for a full pass. Also with a stock trans it lasted 2 passes with a 275 shot. Remember when you post, some of us have been around and have tried most things and know what does and what does not work. You will be called out!!
Chris Hull@TTC 01-08-2010, 12:38 PM ok now we are getting somewhere.,
1111 crank hp in a 5000lb suv, i dont have a calculator but what does that equate to a 9.66?
Yes it does. Here is the calculator I have been using.
http://teamcsr.net/Racing%20Calculator.htm
cjg454ss 01-08-2010, 12:56 PM Yes it does. Here is the calculator I have been using.
http://teamcsr.net/Racing%20Calculator.htm
no i wasnt questioning it. could the aerodynamics be causing a slower time? transmission and converter slip?. ect. i know when i run the ss at the track i monitor input/output speeds ect with big stuff 3. also the awd consumes more power loss than a rear wheel. all those i would say could contribute.
to me a 10.5 isnt fast, and it cost a lot run that in a jeep. thats just me. dont hate. i dont hate you because you think it is fast.
flsrt- never said it lasted, just said it was done. your 10.5 twin rear mount doesnt impress me. rear mounts are riced out. a front mount will destroy a rear mount.
cjg454ss 01-08-2010, 12:58 PM CJG as I explained months ago. There is a problem with running a large shot of NOS on the 6.1 Jeep. No one I know and I have not heard of anyone making it work for a full pass. Also with a stock trans it lasted 2 passes with a 275 shot. Remember when you post, some of us have been around and have tried most things and know what does and what does not work. You will be called out!!
called out...lol, you havent tried sh$$, you have a jeep with a rice turbo setup. big deal
no i wasnt questioning it. could the aerodynamics be causing a slower time? transmission and converter slip?. ect. i know when i run the ss at the track i monitor input/output speeds ect with big stuff 3. also the awd consumes more power loss than a rear wheel. all those i would say could contribute.
to me a 10.5 isnt fast, and it cost a lot run that in a jeep. thats just me. dont hate. i dont hate you because you think it is fast.
flsrt- never said it lasted, just said it was done. your 10.5 twin rear mount doesnt impress me. rear mounts are riced out. a front mount will destroy a rear mount.
ummm...I do believe that is hating...
this guys is something else...man oh man...:rolleyes:
cjg454ss 01-08-2010, 01:06 PM ummm...I do believe that is hating...
this guys is something else...man oh man...:rolleyes:
. :boohoo:
lol...whatever homie...
I'm not getting in a internet war with you...
I wish you the best with the SS and Vette. ;)
1BAMFR 01-08-2010, 01:13 PM called out...lol, you havent tried sh$$, you have a jeep with a rice turbo setup. big deal
Bro........He has tried "Sh!T"
Chris has run big shots of Nitrous on his 426 before he did the TT build.
Running 10.5's in a 5000 SUV is very impressive!!! When I was stock and I was running 13.1's, It was impressive too.
You're just stuck up about your 8 second drag car. We're talking about a 4 door Jeep that has Nav., Rear DVD, and back up sensors.
8 second gutted trailered drag cars are dime a dozen at the track. When a Jeep runs mid 10's at the track, you'll clear the benches and they'll all be under your hood!
1BAMFR 01-08-2010, 01:15 PM lol...whatever homie...
I'm not getting in a internet war with you...
I wish you the best with the SS and Vette. ;)
Don't worry, I think Bernie will send him on an all expenses paid vacation very soon
Chris Hull@TTC 01-08-2010, 01:15 PM Why dont you let your wife post you dont even drive the Jeep anymore.
m4xm1l10n 01-08-2010, 01:29 PM Greenville new guy
Just got a black srt8, ive been racing for a while, the jeeps for my wife, i have f350 dually, 400wrhp, 750rwtq. the car i race is a 2002 camaro SS, it has a 88 mm turbo. im just finishing that car. I built it from bottem up. T400 trans, moser 9 inch, cage. I will start on the jeep this fall. im thinking streetfriendly cam, clean up the heads, and a nice 150 shot.
Anyways, thats my background. i also water ski in competitively when i have time. I practice on a Malibu Flightcraft barefooted edition.
Great site. Cant wait to meet some jeep guys. i traded in a 05 hemi jeep.
By your introduction i can tell that you don't give a rats ass about what this forum is all about and what our Heavy ASS SUV Can and can not do as you too busy bragging about your other toys !!! So go about your business elsewhere and do what Junior asked and let your wife share the great and only unique experience witch the JEEP SRT8 Can putt out . My last post in this useless thread :boohoo:
cjg454ss 01-08-2010, 01:44 PM By your introduction i can tell that you don't give a rats ass about what this forum is all about and what our Heavy ASS SUV Can and can not do as you too busy bragging about your other toys !!! So go about your business elsewhere and do what Junior asked and let your wife share the great and only unique experience witch the JEEP SRT8 Can putt out . My last post in this useless thread :boohoo:
sorry man i thought it was a good intro
m4xm1l10n 01-08-2010, 01:48 PM Why not keep what you originally posted :rolleyes:
---Quote (Originally by m4xm1l10n)---
By your introduction i can tell that you don't give a rats ass about what this forum is all about and what our Heavy ASS SUV Can and can not do as you too busy bragging about your other toys !!! So go about your business elsewhere and do what Junior asked and let your wife share the great and only unique experience witch the JEEP SRT8 Can putt out . My last post in this useless thread :boohoo:
---End Quote---
sorry i dont suck **** for jeep cherokee srt8s like you.
Chris@LPM 01-08-2010, 02:30 PM no i wasnt questioning it. could the aerodynamics be causing a slower time? transmission and converter slip?. ect. i know when i run the ss at the track i monitor input/output speeds ect with big stuff 3. also the awd consumes more power loss than a rear wheel. all those i would say could contribute.
to me a 10.5 isnt fast, and it cost a lot run that in a jeep. thats just me. dont hate. i dont hate you because you think it is fast.
flsrt- never said it lasted, just said it was done. your 10.5 twin rear mount doesnt impress me. rear mounts are riced out. a front mount will destroy a rear mount.
Show me one. Once again your showing your back side. Remember who won the street nationals using a rear mount system in a vett on street radials. I thought so!!
Chris@LPM 01-08-2010, 02:33 PM I tell you what, bring your dime a dozen 02 Camaro to Florida's race in Feb and put up or shut up!
1BAMFR 01-08-2010, 02:45 PM I tell you what, bring your dime a dozen 02 Camaro to Florida's race in Feb and put up or shut up!
I got $50 on the Jeep
And I bet you Chris drives his Jeep there with a starbucks in the cupholder using the Nav. to get there:)
cjg454ss 01-08-2010, 03:01 PM I tell you what, bring your dime a dozen 02 Camaro to Florida's race in Feb and put up or shut up!
why dont you bring your dime a dozen rear mount to sc. ive race at bradenton many times and sunshine. ll bring my vette. your jeep vs my vette.
Chris@LPM 01-08-2010, 04:03 PM Bring it, I eat vetts for breakfast.
CentralTexHemi 01-08-2010, 04:10 PM I love the FRC Vettes
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y283/texastourist/SRT8%20Jeep%20GC/th_idk032.jpg (http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y283/texastourist/SRT8%20Jeep%20GC/?action=view¤t=idk032.flv)
Chris@LPM 01-08-2010, 04:18 PM CJG bring your pink slip. It's only a 5200 pound Jeep with 1200 AWD HP. No problem for a stud like you who's not impressed.
navyavi469 01-08-2010, 04:39 PM Chris are you looking for an easy way to start fresh? LMAO
eddiefig 01-08-2010, 05:37 PM 8 second gutted trailered drag cars are dime a dozen at the track. When a Jeep runs mid 10's at the track, you'll clear the benches and they'll all be under your hood!
Amen to THAT!!
http://i655.photobucket.com/albums/uu274/eddiefig/Jeep/IMG_0003-2.jpg
Chris Hull@TTC 01-08-2010, 05:48 PM Let me see that Camaro make 45 passes in one day!! Or 37 or 32!! His tranny would be on the track after the 6th all out pass!!
af_maineiac 01-08-2010, 05:55 PM :popblood:
I totally LOVE this forum! :pinklove:
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jessiethe3rd 01-08-2010, 07:21 PM This conversation is total Bananas :bananahump-slvrathl
I love it!:popblood:
Crookster777 01-08-2010, 07:25 PM Oh my............
Crookster777 01-08-2010, 07:27 PM Bro........He has tried "Sh!T"
Chris has run big shots of Nitrous on his 426 before he did the TT build.
Running 10.5's in a 5000 SUV is very impressive!!! When I was stock and I was running 13.1's, It was impressive too.
You're just stuck up about your 8 second drag car. We're talking about a 4 door Jeep that has Nav., Rear DVD, and back up sensors.
8 second gutted trailered drag cars are dime a dozen at the track. When a Jeep runs mid 10's at the track, you'll clear the benches and they'll all be under your hood!
QFT...............
Grip Grip 01-08-2010, 07:34 PM I tried to pass a school bus the other day and it overtook me. The driver laughed out loud, pointing at me, while the children yelled "slow poke".
If I could of only raced him from a dig. That mother ****er!!!!!! :(
1BAMFR 01-08-2010, 08:02 PM I tried to pass a school bus the other day and it overtook me. The driver laughed out loud, pointing at me, while the children yelled "slow poke".
If I could of only raced him from a dig. That mother ****er!!!!!! :(
Better watch out for that "wanger" on the front bumper, Those things will getcha!
Grip Grip 01-08-2010, 08:45 PM I'm getting an '88 IROC and demanding a rematch!
Crookster777 01-08-2010, 08:49 PM I'm getting an '88 IROC
No wonder you are growing back a mullet. :D
Grip Grip 01-08-2010, 08:51 PM No wonder you are growing back a mullet. :D
Don't be a hater! :D
This video is funny ****! :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdegQmtgFSM
LOL
Is that a young Rick G? :D
hardhat 01-08-2010, 09:14 PM SS or any camaro isnt impressive unless you put a built motor and a big turbo on it gut it and put slicks on it. Well even then its only impressive when the guy driving it isnt a big ole douche. Then its just a douchebag in a fast camaro. By the way do the tee-tops stay on when your going 150mph ?
cjg454ss 01-08-2010, 09:39 PM http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff44/cjg454ss/IMG_0003-2.jpg
Rambit 01-08-2010, 09:48 PM I'd say that was about enough.
Bernie
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