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Newfiebullet
10-03-2009, 07:41 PM
Ok so i went to the track today and finaly hit the 12s well a 12.92@108mph and i was spinning bad through 1st, Whatever........... but now when i correct my times its saying 11.88@109.4 theres no way thats possibe, and goes to show why corrected times are B/S:mad:


Newfie.

Grip Grip
10-03-2009, 07:48 PM
You must have did the correction wrong, because on this planet 1 MPH doesn't equate to 1 second, it's one tenth.

YoungMedic23
10-03-2009, 07:52 PM
i NEVER go by corrected times

Newfiebullet
10-03-2009, 08:01 PM
I corrected my times on drag times, its perty stright forward, but i may have done it wrong. Medic i dont either, i ran what i ran but was wondering what it would say.

Newfie.

Grip Grip
10-03-2009, 08:17 PM
There was an error. I believe your corrected numbers should be 12.88@109.4, not 11.88@109.4.

Grip Grip
10-03-2009, 08:18 PM
Typically, a drop of one 1/10th in ET equates to an increase of 1 MPH in the 1/4.

Newfiebullet
10-03-2009, 08:29 PM
I dont know, it said 11.88 is there another site to try?

Newfie.

JJJ93z
10-03-2009, 08:31 PM
^^Nope, just make sure ALL of your data is 100% correct and you selected the right time, date and track. If you post up your slip results, track you went to and time you ran I could give it a try for ya.

Newfiebullet
10-03-2009, 08:41 PM
HAHAHA, Grip you were right, im a dumba$$ i put my MPH in the 1/4 part, it corrects to a12.7 What the hell do i have to do to hit the 11s in Canada LOL

Newfie.


PS. this thread is now pointless.

Grip Grip
10-03-2009, 08:43 PM
HAHAHA, Grip you were right, im a dumba$$ i put my MPH in the 1/4 part, it corrects to a12.7 What the hell do i have to do to hit the 11s in Canada LOL

Newfie.


PS. this thread is now pointless.


Keep in mind, a 1/10th equals one MPH. :) I'm glad you worked it out. If you'd like some 11's, I suggest you buy a used Vortech kit off the forum. :D

JJJ93z
10-03-2009, 08:49 PM
HAHAHA, Grip you were right, im a dumba$$ i put my MPH in the 1/4 part, it corrects to a12.7 What the hell do i have to do to hit the 11s in Canada LOL

Newfie.


PS. this thread is now pointless.


Run when it is -30º F out 11's no prob! Trac. may be an issue. :D

It is not as pointless as the thread posted up this week titled "very important issue", which was def. not worthy of that title.

jim383
10-03-2009, 09:30 PM
You guys have to remember that supercharged and nitrous cars do not corrected times.

Grip Grip
10-03-2009, 09:36 PM
You guys have to remember that supercharged and nitrous cars do not corrected times.

No offense Jim, but what does that have to do with the topic at hand? He's not supercharged nor is he running nitrous.

jim383
10-04-2009, 07:39 AM
No offense Jim, but what does that have to do with the topic at hand? He's not supercharged nor is he running nitrous.
Nothing really just a commit for others that may read this thread that may not no you dont correct s/c or nitrous set ups.

Grip Grip
10-04-2009, 07:48 AM
When I was running a 75 shot of nitrous, it cosistantly shaved .4 off my 1/8 mile ET, regardless of the DA. I know the correction factor for nitrous and boost are much lower than on a stock NA setup, but the DA still affects them. At least that's my experince. :)

jim383
10-04-2009, 08:02 AM
When I was running a 75 shot of nitrous, it cosistantly shaved .4 off my 1/8 mile ET, regardless of the DA. I know the correction factor for nitrous and boost are much lower than on a stock NA setup, but the DA still affects them. At least that's my experince. :)

TO be honest i think all set up should be corrected but NHRA doesnt think so. The fule cars run slower at denver than the do at englishtown so why not correct them also in my opinion.

RaceRat
10-04-2009, 08:05 AM
i NEVER go by corrected times

Agree, IMO, the correct time is the one on my timeslip.

Matt McKenzie
10-04-2009, 08:06 AM
I don't get it...my times I ran weren't wrong, so why would I need them corrected?!?!?!
:confused::confused::confused::confused:

:D:D:D:D:

jim383
10-04-2009, 08:23 AM
I don't get it...my times I ran weren't wrong, so why would I need them corrected?!?!?!
:confused::confused::confused::confused:

:D:D:D:D:

Matt the main reason to correct them is really to compair with others that run at diff DA. Lets say you have 2 cars with same mods and hp and your at englishtown and the DA is minus 250 ft and another guy is in ca at plus 3200 ft and you no they both wont run the same times so its not fair to compare them. Same thing for race wt. As its not fair to compair times with same hp but 1 car wt is 4950 and another 1 is at 5100. Thats why NHRA goes by shiiping wt and advertised hp in stock classes and they all have to run with same mods.

Matt McKenzie
10-04-2009, 08:38 AM
Matt the main reason to correct them is really to compair with others that run at diff DA. Lets say you have 2 cars with same mods and hp and your at englishtown and the DA is minus 250 ft and another guy is in ca at plus 3200 ft and you no they both wont run the same times so its not fair to compare them. Same thing for race wt. As its not fair to compair times with same hp but 1 car wt is 4950 and another 1 is at 5100. Thats why NHRA goes by shiiping wt and advertised hp in stock classes and they all have to run with same mods.

:D:D:D:D:D

Grip Grip
10-04-2009, 09:03 AM
You're terrible Matt! :D

jim383
10-04-2009, 09:13 AM
You're terrible Matt! :D

Matt terible,NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA LOL. Were just all good ole boys in here hehe.

YoungMedic23
10-04-2009, 09:43 AM
You guys have to remember that supercharged and nitrous cars do not corrected times.

If supercharged vehicles are supposedly "EXEMPT" from DA changes......then WHY do i run 11.6's one night and 11.9's the next night??????????????

I disagree that forced induction and nitrous vehicles aren't affected by DA....cuz they are affected 80% as much as N/A vehicles

People keep repeating the same thing but my times are slower on higher DA days...as well as all the other F/I cobras, evos, etc at the track

Matt McKenzie
10-04-2009, 09:50 AM
You're terrible Matt! :D

Matt terible,NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA LOL. Were just all good ole boys in here hehe.

:D:D:D:D:D

Newfiebullet
10-04-2009, 10:06 AM
From my times ive ran at the track, iit still dont make alot of sense because last night the DA was1000 feet above sea level and i ran 12.92@108 and last time i was there i ran 13.045@106.5 and the DA was 4500 feet above sea lever, you would think that i would have ran alot faster last night.

Newfie.

jim383
10-04-2009, 11:21 AM
From my times ive ran at the track, iit still dont make alot of sense because last night the DA was1000 feet above sea level and i ran 12.92@108 and last time i was there i ran 13.045@106.5 and the DA was 4500 feet above sea lever, you would think that i would have ran alot faster last night.

Newfie.

The higher the DA the lower the humidity. That why you ran only 12 hundredths slower as the lower the DA the higher the humidity witch engines cant burn the mosture in the air and you lose hp. I DA all my runs and i watch the humidity a lot more than i do the temp. I have found out that humidity slows me down more that higher temps which may be my tune.

CentralTexHemi
10-04-2009, 11:24 AM
The only thing I use the DA correction forumula for it to make sure my jeep is running cosistant in any weather and DA. If its not running the same then I know something is wrong with the Jeep, the only flaw I can see in DA correction is it does not take into consideration tire spin at the line some tracks hook better than others so I usually use a +/- factor off my 60' times before I really get concerned. To even further prove my point my runs this summer were horrible even my DA corrected times were off almost 2 tenths so I started re-datalogging and sure enough I was getting horrible KR in some RPM ranges most in the 4k-6k range where we basically do the majority of your 1/4 racing, fixed it and as of the past Saturdays track times I'm right back where I was last time this year. So for me DA corrections are just for checks and balances but I never claim them.

jim383
10-04-2009, 11:35 AM
Wade is right but i do use my corrected times as our DA here in ca is so much up and down and also to compare with others only as i dont datalog as mine was done on the dyno but i can always add or change the timing and fuel if i want but never have.

chippy
10-04-2009, 11:40 AM
Holy crap I agree with Medic on something. By the way Newfie great run up here for us great white north guys way to represent. DA does affect huge as my best in higher DA close to 5000ft was 12.9 supercharged and the 440 was a 12.8 the same day. We have all seen how Juniors numbers on his 440 are great. I was pretty impressed how I held with the one here. Like I posted before here we had stock,blown,440,heads cam ect showed how they run together. DA's , Humidity ect ect make alot of difference I know I will never touch an 11.57 here on the best day like medic has done.:D

Andy
10-04-2009, 01:41 PM
What 440 ran 12.8?

also, Forced Induction cars do have a correction factor of 50% that of an NA car.

Newfie, what is your air/fuel ratio?

chippy
10-04-2009, 05:41 PM
The 440 thats here in Calgary what,s your question.

Andy
10-04-2009, 05:52 PM
Just shocked that a 440 would run 12.8 and Newfie also ran a 12.8.

chippy
10-04-2009, 05:59 PM
Not to be rude but that was the point of this discussion. Altitude and DA ect really have an effect on our rigs. Newfies air has to be alot better to run better than a SC or 440. His air was much cooler this weekend. Also the 440's 60 was alot slower due to traction issues its very strong on the bottom end. Not taking anything away from his runs his beast must be real strong,we cant get those numbers here in Calgary. I heard from somewhere that we are supposed to have the 3 worst air in North America?

Andy
10-04-2009, 06:02 PM
Not to be rude but that was the point of this discussion. Altitude and DA ect really have an effect on our rigs. Newfies air has to be alot better to run better than a SC or 440. His air was much cooler this weekend. Also the 440's 60 was alot slower due to traction issues its very strong on the bottom end. Not taking anything away from his runs his beast must be real strong,we cant get those numbers here in Calgary. I heard from somewhere that we are supposed to have the 3 worst air in North America?

Your not being rude, just confusing. The way I was reading it, Newfie and the 440 were racing at the same track and same day. I misunderstood, but I completely understand how DA works.

chippy
10-04-2009, 06:13 PM
kk, Sorry if a little testy its hard to read about all these guys going to new england raceway at like 178 ft with basically stock kicking our butts. Newfie and the guys here will hook up one day im sure he's been trying to get us together a couple of times.:D

BTLFED
10-04-2009, 06:20 PM
I agree with others, correcting is ok to see if your on par with what you did last time but correcting and saying you ran X ET is not a measurement to be bragging about.
Its unfortunate that alot of people on here race dyno numbers and corrected ETs.

Newfiebullet
10-04-2009, 07:46 PM
Hey PW my A/F is sitting on 12.4, but i was spinning bad through 1st. Hey Chippy i cant wait for next year, the playing field will be closer between me and you as ill be boosted aswell, just not sure with what though, and im guessing ill have to switch my cam DAMMIT..................

Newfie.

Andy
10-04-2009, 09:04 PM
Hey PW my A/F is sitting on 12.4, but i was spinning bad through 1st. Hey Chippy i cant wait for next year, the playing field will be closer between me and you as ill be boosted aswell, just not sure with what though, and im guessing ill have to switch my cam DAMMIT..................

Newfie.


Your cam will be fine. It will bleed off some boost, but you can always change the pulley size in order to achieve desired boost levels. If you want to maximize the potential of your blower, you will eventually need a cam with less overlap.

Grip Grip
10-04-2009, 09:10 PM
Your cam will be fine. It will bleed off some boost, but you can always change the pulley size in order to achieve desired boost levels. If you want to maximize the potential of your blower, you will eventually need a cam with less overlap.

While we are picking brains, how's my Comp 268 work with the Vortech? I've got all the other bolt on mods too.

Andy
10-04-2009, 09:19 PM
While we are picking brains, how's my Comp 268 work with the Vortech? I've got all the other bolt on mods too.

216/220 and a 113LSA. Should be OK, the lift is really low, but it will work OK.

Grip Grip
10-04-2009, 09:27 PM
Thanks Andy. :)

jim383
10-04-2009, 09:33 PM
I agree with others, correcting is ok to see if your on par with what you did last time but correcting and saying you ran X ET is not a measurement to be bragging about.
Its unfortunate that alot of people on here race dyno numbers and corrected ETs.

I agree but in my sig i put my uncorrected real times with DA and list my corrected time with DA as what i may have turned at sea level but i never claim it as what i ran just to compair to others in other states.

Chris Hull@TTC
10-04-2009, 09:48 PM
The 440 thats here in Calgary what,s your question.

Just shocked that a 440 would run 12.8 and Newfie also ran a 12.8.

Not to be rude but that was the point of this discussion. Altitude and DA ect really have an effect on our rigs. Newfies air has to be alot better to run better than a SC or 440. His air was much cooler this weekend. Also the 440's 60 was alot slower due to traction issues its very strong on the bottom end. Not taking anything away from his runs his beast must be real strong,we cant get those numbers here in Calgary. I heard from somewhere that we are supposed to have the 3 worst air in North America?

Your not being rude, just confusing. The way I was reading it, Newfie and the 440 were racing at the same track and same day. I misunderstood, but I completely understand how DA works.

Did sombody say 440?? hehe I would love to run with you Newfie, but it would take me 2 days drive!!

Andy
10-04-2009, 09:56 PM
Even more surprising was that is was someone other than you. HAHA.

Chris Hull@TTC
10-04-2009, 10:07 PM
Even more surprising was that is was someone other than you. HAHA.

I have his # in my phone!! Nice guy!! Wish him all the luck I am having!!