Ok...maybe it's just me and I am being impatient but I just did EBC RedStuff pads and Stoptech rotors on the rig over this past weekend. I have put about 100 miles on them and I have the loudest ear piercing, edward scissorhands nails on a chalkboard sound coming from the rear pads. Mostly from the drivers side rear. I can't take it and neither can anyone around me when I brake at slow speeds! I know there is a break in period and I used the copper paste and I have the shims but I really want to rip them out and go with another pad. Is it too early to tell or should I just bail on the rear redstuff and go with another pad? Guys with the reds PLEASE give me your input. :couto:

Cadillac CTS-V rears seem to do the trick.

Anyone....?

Anyone....?

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I was leaning toward those but I just wanted to make sure that I am not changing brand new pads for no reason. If I know the squeal will disappear i will put up with it for a little while longer but if this is a common problem with these pads, I need to switch.

My stock pads never squealed but I was doing road courses. I had EBC Yellows on the front and they went away after 65 miles on Road America. These brakes need to be stopped hard. I have posi-quiets on my rear and they haven't made a squeak yet.

so for daily use would you say that the redstuff pads are too aggressive? I am leaning closer to the cts-v pads but again....i want to make sure I am not trashing a brand new set of rear redstuff pads for nothing

so for daily use would you say that the redstuff pads are too aggressive? I am leaning closer to the cts-v pads but again....i want to make sure I am not trashing a brand new set of rear redstuff pads for nothing

My personal experience is the EBC pads need to be heated up. They are probably good on track days, where they get driven hard. Everyday driving just isn't enough for them. Did you try bedding them again?

gonna try again tomorrow.....if i still get the squealing I am going to order the cts-v pads. as far as the cts-v pads any difference between the Akebono and the the Power Stop pads?

gonna try again tomorrow.....if i still get the squealing I am going to order the cts-v pads. as far as the cts-v pads any difference between the Akebono and the the Power Stop pads?

Most on here seem to go with the Akebono.

what about the posi quiets?

what about the posi quiets?

They are working for me so far, but I drive like a maniac.

thats what I needed to hear. I drive like a mad man as well and i figured the redstuff pads would be what i needed but I if I can get away with the cts-v pads in the rear and not have to deal with the noise i will go with those. thanks for all the help

thats what I needed to hear. I drive like a mad man as well and i figured the redstuff pads would be what i needed but I if I can get away with the cts-v pads in the rear and not have to deal with the noise i will go with those. thanks for all the help

That's what I would do. The fronts should be fine. Good Luck.

They take a good 500 miles to get rid of that stuff if you don't abraise the break in coating and get a head start on eliminating it. They work very well, once they are warm.

what do the cts-v pads look like. should I keep my black brembos on the front or go w/ something else on the front.

I have the EBC green sfuff pads on my other car, they squealed like pigs for the first 200 miles, They are now nice and quite.

what do the cts-v pads look like. should I keep my black brembos on the front or go w/ something else on the front.

They look like brake pads.:eek: The Brembos on the front are CALIPERS as are the Brembos on the back and do not need to be changed.
If you don't know the difference between pads and calipers maybe you shouldn't touch anything. You are changing the pads that are located inside the black calipers.

Yeah I just installed the 2006 Cadillac CTS-V Akeboneco pads on the rear with my R1rotors and I get no squeal at all. Plus no more F***n brake dust! As far as the front I installed some Hawk Ceramic pads that have no dust at all but the braking is not the same as stock. So I would try to rebed your brakes if not replace them rears with the CTS-V pads.

i also have green stuff from ebc and they are loud as hell (rear) I only have 20miles on them, but how to drive for 200 or more to let them fit with rotors, guy from ebc told me that new pads have cover surface for about 1,5mm just to fit the rotor

hate them and will buy hawk pads for rear

I got the same god awful screeching **** from low speeds. anyone got a part number for these ctsv pads? Seems like the colder it is out the louder these things scream. Sounds like a ****ing train stopping. I had some people jump for the lawn when I drove past...now that was funny but I need this screeching gone.

I got the same god awful screeching **** from low speeds. anyone got a part number for these ctsv pads? Seems like the colder it is out the louder these things scream. Sounds like a ****ing train stopping. I had some people jump for the lawn when I drove past...now that was funny but I need this screeching gone.

CTS-V pads are not the magic bullet. I put them on about 3 months ago to stop squeal and it came back faster and louder.

I have a theory that the holes on the pads for the pins are too big, causing the pads to vibrate up and down, alternating which end (hole) is up or down. This then causes the pins to vibrate the spring which is the source of the wonderful squeal.

I put cts v pads on with permitex anti seize on one side of the shim and ultra brake disk sound remover and copper paste on the other side of the shim. I will keep everyone posted in the next few months it the squeal comes back.

I put the green EBC stuff on my 95SS back in the days, they sucked, they made noise and made lots of dust, which they were not supposed to, take them off, put them in the trash, and get Hawk HPS (http://marylandspeed.com/hawk-hps-front-rear-brake-pads-2006-charger-challenger-magnum-grand-cherokee-srt8-300-srt8-only-p-1741.html) pads.

I put the green EBC stuff on my 95SS back in the days, they sucked, they made noise and made lots of dust, which they were not supposed to, take them off, put them in the trash, and get Hawk HPS (http://marylandspeed.com/hawk-hps-front-rear-brake-pads-2006-charger-challenger-magnum-grand-cherokee-srt8-300-srt8-only-p-1741.html) pads.


Well compared to the stock pads the HPS pads may dust less but they stop worse.

Will the CTS-V pads work on a 2009 SRT8 stock Brembo system? Its about time for me to change the pads and wondering what to get next since these OEM pads sound REALLY bad. thx guys.

had the same problem with my stop tech rotors and hawk light suv pads.. took them to the dealer had them sand them and went away... only cost 8$ to have the rotors sanded down

Just a Note , EBC Red stuff works great no noise no dust , but the first 1000 miles :eek: Noisy and dusty but don't be scared cuz it's worth the wait as i got 3k on them and love them specially the stopping power .

Just a Note , EBC Red stuff works great no noise no dust , but the first 1000 miles :eek: Noisy and dusty but don't be scared cuz it's worth the wait as i got 3k on them and love them specially the stopping power .

why would you wait 3K miles? lol Everyone! For the last time just get the stock front pads with the cts-v's on the rear and use permitex and ultra disk noise reducer. You can get both at auto zone. Lube up those shims front and back and be done with noise forever. Plus you will stop better than any of these aftermarket pads. Live with the dust!

why would you wait 3K miles? lol Everyone! For the last time just get the stock front pads with the cts-v's on the rear and use permitex and ultra disk noise reducer. You can get both at auto zone. Lube up those shims front and back and be done with noise forever. Plus you will stop better than any of these aftermarket pads. Live with the dust!

I didn't wait 3k , I have 3000 miles on them right now and i love them , But i tried them all , Stock front pads = DUSTY:eek: i don't like that , cts-v's /AKA Akebono pads witch is what i always run on my cars , is very similar to the EBC Pads but i didn't expect the EBC to be noise and dusty at first 1000 miles but after that they doing what i want them to do , quite and almost 0 dust . and stop power is equal to stock pads .

not possible to have less dust with the same stopping power. It just doesn't work that way. It's like the Mercedes AMG's. They dust a ton but they stop on a dime. Aftermarket pads just don't have the stopping power. That's why they are so much cheaper. You get what you pay for. You want performance then go stock. You want a regular toyota camry stopping power then go with aftermarket.

not possible to have less dust with the same stopping power. It just doesn't work that way. It's like the Mercedes AMG's. They dust a ton but they stop on a dime. Aftermarket pads just don't have the stopping power. That's why they are so much cheaper. You get what you pay for. You want performance then go stock. You want a regular toyota camry stopping power then go with aftermarket.

I went from stock pads (Dusty as a Motha ) to EBC Yellow stuff ( Dusty , Noisy and no stopping power ) to EBC Red stuff witch stops as good as stock pads , yes as good as stock as i tried them both and the big plus for me was the 0 noise level and almost 0 dust it provided me after the break in period , and since you calling it cheap Toyota Camry :D after market pads what are you doing with Akebono pads in the back :confused: . Trust me give the EBC Red stuff front pads a try you'll tank me later .

Others on here have said the Red EBC are not even close to the stock pads stopping power. That makes sense. I'm not sure what you are talking about with the CTS-V's? When mine came in they say Brembo on the box. The copper paste is from Brembo. The pads themselves say brembo on them. They are exactly like the Brembo front pads in looks not size. So basically you are saying the front brembos are cheap as well? This is a losing argument. Anyone that is anyone knows the brembo pads dust a lot but they are the best. They stop like a SOB. EBC holds nothing on Brembo. I will not be changing my brembos out for anything. I think they rock big time! They have that extra bite that I love. :)

I went from stock pads (Dusty as a Motha ) to EBC Yellow stuff ( Dusty , Noisy and no stopping power ) to EBC Red stuff witch stops as good as stock pads , yes as good as stock as i tried them both and the big plus for me was the 0 noise level and almost 0 dust it provided me after the break in period , and since you calling it cheap Toyota Camry :D after market pads what are you doing with Akebono pads in the back :confused: . Trust me give the EBC Red stuff front pads a try you'll tank me later .

The Yellowstuff are a track pad. Unless you are willing to really heat them up, they do suck. Once they are heated up though they work great but don't last very long. I went through a set of fronts in 65 miles at Road America.

Liquiddi, just so you know Bendix makes the Brembo pads and if you look up the Bendix # on the stock pads, you will find that they are cheap if you buy them as a Bendix product.

The Yellowstuff are a track pad. Unless you are willing to really heat them up, they do suck. Once they are heated up though they work great but don't last very long. I went through a set of fronts in 65 miles at Road America.

Liquiddi, just so you know Bendix makes the Brembo pads and if you look up the Bendix # on the stock pads, you will find that they are cheap if you buy them as a Bendix product.

Whoever makes the Brembo pads makes a damn good pad! Period :) I've used most everything in the past and the Brembo's rock for stopping power.

Aftermarket pads just don't have the stopping power. That's why they are so much cheaper. You get what you pay for. You want performance then go stock.

Whoever makes the Brembo pads makes a damn good pad! Period :) I've used most everything in the past and the Brembo's rock for stopping power.

I am just pointing out from what your above quote states about "cheaper". A fool and their money are soon parted if they buy pads from a dealer. Bendix pads can be found cheaper than some of the aftermarket pads. That is all.

I agree. What I mean by cheaper is in the quality. Not who sells them. You want the best then go with WHOEVER produces Brembo Brake at the lowest price you can find them for. lol. God you guys are tough.

Ok...maybe it's just me and I am being impatient but I just did EBC RedStuff pads and Stoptech rotors on the rig over this past weekend. I have put about 100 miles on them and I have the loudest ear piercing, edward scissorhands nails on a chalkboard sound coming from the rear pads. Mostly from the drivers side rear. I can't take it and neither can anyone around me when I brake at slow speeds! I know there is a break in period and I used the copper paste and I have the shims but I really want to rip them out and go with another pad. Is it too early to tell or should I just bail on the rear redstuff and go with another pad? Guys with the reds PLEASE give me your input. :couto:


I just had my rear pads replaced with the EBC red stuff and they are doing the worst freight train noise when stopping. The tech told me I needed new rotors badly and they are "out of spec" (I am assuming he menas run-out). He said my pads will get ruined if I drive (does this means because of the run-put they will rub and heat up the pads and ruin them???). I am ordering the EBC rotors on monday
I had the front pads replaced with the same pads and they are not noisy anymore, the weird thing is the front rotors look very grooved, while the rears looked fine!

the reason they make noise is because whoever put them on did not prepare them the right way. The shims need a lot of anti seize and brake noise reducer put on them. If this is done then you will hear no noise out of any pad you put on.

the reason they make noise is because whoever put them on did not prepare them the right way. The shims need a lot of anti seize and brake noise reducer put on them. If this is done then you will hear no noise out of any pad you put on.

I would not be so quick to blame the mechanic... I had the same guy do my fronts (those had no noise) and both times on my receipt it had 2 seperate charges, one for anti-seize and one for anti-squeal (I know this does not mean he actually ut it in or put enough). I also went and put ~100mi on the pads this weekend, as EBC says to do. Then I went and did some driving in the hills here and then did their "bed in" process... Now the pads give almost no noise, I will wait until they cool down and do some more agressive stops...
Still got the EBC rear rotors coming tomorrow!

The fronts will not make noise no matter how you prepare them. The problem is the rear. I will almost guarantee you they just slid the pads in on your rear and did nothing to them. It took me hours to do mine right. All I know is the way I did mine is perfect. No noise from day 1. Stock front pads, rear CTS-V pads, R1 rotors all around, permitex anti seize on the inside of the shim that touches the piston and ultra anti squeal + the brembo paste that comes with the pads on the part that sits against the pad on the shim. That combo = perfect with no noise. P.S. I never bedded my pads in and still have not had any noise from day 1.

The fronts will not make noise no matter how you prepare them. The problem is the rear. I will almost guarantee you they just slid the pads in on your rear and did nothing to them. It took me hours to do mine right. All I know is the way I did mine is perfect. No noise from day 1. Stock front pads, rear CTS-V pads, R1 rotors all around, permitex anti seize on the inside of the shim that touches the piston and ultra anti squeal + the brembo paste that comes with the pads on the part that sits against the pad on the shim. That combo = perfect with no noise. P.S. I never bedded my pads in and still have not had any noise from day 1.

Ok, well I guesse that means I have to take mine off myself and do it! THe pads I got have shims already attached to the backplate (pretty weird), so the only interface is between the 2 pistons and the outside of shim. Should I do anti-seize or the aqueal stuff, or combo of both?

I would do a combo of both. I know what you are saying about the shims being attached. The wagners I had on before were like that. I would just mix up all that crap and put it on the shim lol. It can't hurt. What you are trying to accomplish is to get the pad to where it doesn't freeze against anything.

Whats the part # for the CTS V rear pads for a 2009 SRT8? Im looking for a one stop shop for the pads and all the other stuff I need to dampen the noise.

sure thing #89047744 www.gmpartsdirect.com $74.36 for the rears but their shipping is always a rip like $30. Still dirt cheap for brembo pads. They even come with the brembo copper paste. just type that number in on their search. As far as the stock front pads you will have to search on here. Lots of places to get them cheaper then the dealer.

FYI got the rear EBC rotors installed (didn't touch the pads) and the noise is completely gone!

I cant find my install thread but I can give you the silver bullet to make them quiet. Go to any autoparts store and buy this

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y283/texastourist/SRT8%20Jeep%20GC/breakquiet001.jpg

and do this:

Take the Permatex Ultra Disc Caliper Lube and lather the entire back of the brake pad, the side that comes in contact with the actual caliper piston (dont buy the cheaper version of the Permatex or use the gold stuff from Brembo/GM)

DO USE THE METAL SHIMS and coat the entire side of the shim in the Permatex Anti Seize this is an old tried and true brake squel fix and it will work.

Just ordered the CTS-V pads! I cant wait to try this out. Thx everyone for the input. Ill be sure to report my findings. Ill finally have a car that doesnt sound terrible.

I've put 5,000 on mine with the permitex and ultra disk with no noise yet :) Great fix!

I cant find my install thread but I can give you the silver bullet to make them quiet. Go to any autoparts store and buy this



and do this:

Take the Permatex Ultra Disc Caliper Lube and lather the entire back of the brake pad, the side that comes in contact with the actual caliper piston (dont buy the cheaper version of the Permatex or use the gold stuff from Brembo/GM)

DO USE THE METAL SHIMS and coat the entire side of the shim in the Permatex Anti Seize this is an old tried and true brake squel fix and it will work.

What shim are you talking about?

What shim are you talking about?

Wade is probably talking about the shims that go on the back of the pad. I personally still have the shims on mine and put tons of brake quiet on the back of the pads with the shims installed and I also put brake lube on the 2 pins holding the pads and have not had any brake squeal since I put the pads in 5k miles ago.

What shim are you talking about?

They are thin metal plates on the back of the pad.

Just installed the CTS-V Pads on the rear. They look very much like the stock brembos...almost EXACTLY the same. Whats the diff between the stock pads and these?

The install was amazingly simple aside from having to buy a punch for the pins. On the passenger side, the hard brake line was in the way of the bottom pin so I had to loosen it. That only added a couple more minutes and some tubing to bleed the lines to be absolutely sure there was no air in the line from loosening the line.

I lathered the inner area of the caliper with the ultra quiet brake lube, followed by a healthy does of anti seize on the pins, shims, and retainer clip. So far no noise and the stopping power seems to be near equal.

Ill check back in about 5K!