Hey im thinking about buying a rader detector for my gc srt8 so i dont get cought this summer ....haha ... What is the best one out now, that actually really works and is deff worth getting??? :confused:

The latest from Escort & Bel are good. I own an Escort Passport 850 in my wife's car, use a Bel Vector (855)? in a work vehicle and a pair of Valentine V1's in my rides. All 3 of these are impressive but the V1 has proven to be the most consistent IMO.

Thanks whats a good website i would be able to order one from:confused: ?

Do they detect laser well?
I just got my first SRT induced speeding ticket and was caught at 1046 ft with a laser.

Thanks whats a good website i would be able to order one from:confused: ?
ebay has brand new passport 8500 x50s for ~230$ which is ~100$ cheaper than msrp

Do they detect laser well?

No, for the most part if you detect it you're nailed. Occasionally you'll detect something when someone else is being shot, but a radar detector, IMO is not a good laser countermeasure.

A laser jammer is though.

Alex

how pervasive is laser really?

i havent come across it in my city (reno) and i understand it has some limitations regarding weather and can only be used while stationary

My state (Maryland) uses it all over the damn place.

Alex

I use a Silver Bullet, and absolutely love it. It was cheap (from Best Buy) and this bad boy warns me waaaaaay ahead of time for radar, and in Kansas there is some laser used, and it goes crazy and a few seconds later down the road I will see the fuzz hangin out.

and you can even use it wirelessly with it;s provided batt pack.. I have mine semi hardwired in though. It is nice and small, silver (obviously) and matches the interior. :cool:

how pervasive is laser really?

i havent come across it in my city (reno) and i understand it has some limitations regarding weather and can only be used while stationary

Laser can only be used while stationary but there are by far more restrictions with radar (weatherwise) than with laser.

My "unofficial" test of radar/laser detector from a few months ago:
http://www.cherokeesrt8.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1758

The Valentine One is by far the best in my opinion. The counter and directional arrow are priceless and something no one else has.

As far as laser it's simple; if it goes off you are nailed.

The key to detecting Laser is paying attention. Remember, unlike radar the laser needs to be aimed directly at you from a stationary position with nothing in between (including windows). That means if he can see you; you should be able to see him, hopefully before he shoots at you. It is common practice in most states for the trooper to park purpendicular to the roadway with his window open to shoot. This usually means you can see the entire side of his cruiser which makes him much easier to spot.

Some states like Maryland however allow the troopers to stand in the center median outside of the car shooting laser. A little different but still fairly easy to spot if you are paying attention.

I have the passport escort SR7 Plus shifters. It works awesome, and the stealth mount is killer.

A slight correction to the post above.... if laser is sensed getting another nearby car (which my system does), then you're NOT hosed. The shifters, however, are far more valuable than just 'knowing' that there are lasers. I've done some 'unofficial' testing with mine too. The local LEA has a few friends of mine in it. They said they'd agree to testing my shifters as long as I obeyed the posted speed limit. I made 3 passes, and not once did they get a reading on me.
Those results are more than enough proof for me personally.

http://www.truckblog.com/gallery/ge2/23503.JPG
http://www.truckblog.com/gallery/ge2/23501.JPG

Remember, unlike radar the laser needs to be aimed directly at you from a stationary position with nothing in between (including windows).


Not true. There are lasers out there that will shoot through windshields and windows.

ge2: what are these shifters you're talking about? i use a v1 and am happy with its anti-radar capabilities, however i only rely on my eyes on roads where i know laser to be in use. is there really a way to jam it?

Laser and radar jammers are out there, but I believe they are illegal. Shifters are somehow legal, as they act differently than actually jamming.

I don't know how or why they work.... just that they do.

I have two mounted up front, and one on the rear.

http://www.radarbusters.com/support/product-tests/radar-detector-recommendations.asp

This will help you out (countless times i have recieved the your lucky we did not get a speed on you speech)

The shifters actually absorb the laser beam and pass it back and forth while the system alerts you... which should give you ample time to get on the brakes hard, achieve the posted speed limit and then hit the button to send the shifted beam back to the trooper!!! If you are going too fast and don't have time to slow down and push the button the trooper will simply get a no read but if you appear to be flying he can give you a speed greater than reasonable ticket which is opinionated and can easily be destroyed in court!!! I love my Passport SRX...second one I've had and it is worth every penny for sure!!!

Radar jammers are illegal because the FCC owns frequencys and leases them to the police for thier r-guns but laser jammers or defusers are not illegal thee FCC has not figured out how to own a beam of light.
As far as the radar detectors go the Valentine is the #1 rated but also the most expensive Escort and Bel are the same company so if comes down to dollar amount the bel X65 is the best to get cause it has many more features than the V1 and most other brands, like tech mode. It will give you exact working voltage of your vehicle, And display the frequncy of the radar it is picking up, now after having it for a couple of weeks you will start to learn which are the local PD's freqs and wich are strores around the area you live in. The features that the Bel has is POP, this will tell you if an cop has the radar on in his car but not using the gun, the range on POP is huge I personaly picked cops up from over 2 miles away in city mode. And the last cool feature that the Bel X65 has is City no X, which is it turns of the X band sensors off so it doesn't false with the auto door at the markets wich in turn turns out is 90% of the fasle reads I used to get. And no matter what any one says the police don't use or have use an X band radar since the 70's. Because the X band was causing testicular cancer because, when the cops weren't use the radar gun they would place the gun in their laps while waiting for the speeders to come down the road.

Ge2 can you post pics of the shifter installs as well? I really like the stealth look, but wondering where you put all the other hardware. Also did you install yourself or have it done?
Thanks,
Jerry

Not true. There are lasers out there that will shoot through windshields and windows.

Really? Could you please let me know which ones?

That would be a tremendous leap in technology since glass diffuses light which would tremendously affect the reading.

ge2: which brand did you install? i don't trust the shifter reviews on radarbusters as they're a store.

Really? Could you please let me know which ones?

That would be a tremendous leap in technology since glass diffuses light which would tremendously affect the reading.


If memory serves me correctly (which it rarely does), cumadogg IS a LEO who uses laser regularly.

As for mine, the shifter I use are the ones that came with the SR7 Plus. I did not do the install myself. I don't have any shots of the back, but it is a thin black bar across the top of my rear plate frame.

Here are the fronts:
http://www.truckblog.com/gallery/ge2/27227.JPG
http://www.truckblog.com/gallery/ge2/27228.JPG

can you buy shifters separetly? if not what other laser or radar jammers are available. i need one bad

http://www.radarbusters.com/support/product-tests/radar-detector-recommendations.asp

This will help you out (countless times i have recieved the your lucky we did not get a speed on you speech)

i was under the impression that an officer can technically write you a ticket based on his visual estimation of speed. i would assume if they pulled you over and saw you had a detector they would be all too happy to go down that road.

Thanks for the pics. So the shifters dont' have to be in line with the lasers. Is the laser drawn to them?
Who did your install?

Thanks,
Jerry

If memory serves me correctly (which it rarely does), cumadogg IS a LEO who uses laser regularly.



That's perfect then! Since I am in the business of manufacturing devices like this I was hoping someone could tell me what brand works through glass.

Would make a tremendous difference in enforcement which is why I would like to know.

got mines installed thanks to ge2 for showing your pix got it the same way.

I have the k40 it works great only 2 little lights on the dash

Really? Could you please let me know which ones?

That would be a tremendous leap in technology since glass diffuses light which would tremendously affect the reading.

My department uses two different brands. The Ultra-Lite LTI 20-20 does NOT shoot thru glass very effectively. Vehicles are only about 150-200 ft away before a reading can be made with those thru the glass. I have a Kustom Signals Pro-Laser III (which is the same our State Troopers use) and I average probably about 800-1000 ft on my readings but have gotten 1800+ ft on the freeway before.

i already have a v1 which I like, compared to an older escort, so i would just invest in a laser package. not sure which way to go on this one, will have to do some research.

on a side note, cumadogg, have you ever pulled over someone speeding in one of our trucks before?

the price on active laser jammers is pretty steep, 5-600 to cover front & back on our trucks. i'm not sure mounting these expensive transceivers permanently is a good idea where i live. i wonder if it's possible to mount in a way that the front/rear units can be easily removed.

i was under the impression that an officer can technically write you a ticket based on his visual estimation of speed. i would assume if they pulled you over and saw you had a detector they would be all too happy to go down that road.


They must have a relative estimation on your speed they can not just come up to you and say i think you were speeding so im gonna give you a 300 doller ticket. I would just disagree with there estimation and take it to court im 18 now and ive been in court 2 times myself for tickets and ive had a lawyer get me out of 4 more. In Alberta 80% of the time they dont show up to the case.

laser and /rader

look have a sr7 and has all the bells and whistles..intalled for about 1200.00
I have been by a stateee a frien of mine to see if it works and guess what not **** it works so well money spent!!!!!!!

on a side note, cumadogg, have you ever pulled over someone speeding in one of our trucks before?

Not yet, I have only seen about 4-5 here in the SLC area. But there's no worry, if I stop one, the easy way to get out of any problems is to take me for a ride :)

They must have a relative estimation on your speed they can not just come up to you and say i think you were speeding so im gonna give you a 300 doller ticket. I would just disagree with there estimation and take it to court im 18 now and ive been in court 2 times myself for tickets and ive had a lawyer get me out of 4 more. In Alberta 80% of the time they dont show up to the case.

Dude, 18 YO and already been to court 6X. Easy on the lead foot ;)
Just FYI though, yes, a visual estimation isn't the most ideal ticket to write, but I would be careful with the mindset of "I would just disagree with there estimation and take it to court". I've written close to 4000 speeding tickets in just over 6 years and I am pretty accurate with my estimation - enough to hold up in court if needed (but luckily, I don't have to worry about that, lidar is a beautiful thing!) And in that same time, never missed court once (but I "sell" my tickets, so people to fight them ;) )

Not yet, I have only seen about 4-5 here in the SLC area. But there's no worry, if I stop one, the easy way to get out of any problems is to take me for a ride :)



Dude, 18 YO and already been to court 6X. Easy on the lead foot ;)
Just FYI though, yes, a visual estimation isn't the most ideal ticket to write, but I would be careful with the mindset of "I would just disagree with there estimation and take it to court". I've written close to 4000 speeding tickets in just over 6 years and I am pretty accurate with my estimation - enough to hold up in court if needed (but luckily, I don't have to worry about that, lidar is a beautiful thing!) And in that same time, never missed court once (but I "sell" my tickets, so people to fight them ;) )

Dont you get paid overtime 2x or something like that if you show up to court in SLC? i heard that once and was wondering if its true.
Oh yeah i got my first ticket here in slc, the cop paced me from a ways back, you got any pull in salt lake city police office downtown? i sure could use the help haha. any tickets show up on my record and my insurance goes up alot.

Dont you get paid overtime 2x or something like that if you show up to court in SLC? i heard that once and was wondering if its true.
Oh yeah i got my first ticket here in slc, the cop paced me from a ways back, you got any pull in salt lake city police office downtown? i sure could use the help haha. any tickets show up on my record and my insurance goes up alot.

send me a PM about your ticket. We don't get paid overtime, if we are on duty it's normal pay and off duty it's OT pay with a 2 hour minimum (so if we are only at court for 30 minutes, we still get paid for 2 hours). Does SLC offer traffic school? That would keep it off your record (if I can't help :))

I've written close to 4000 speeding tickets in just over 6 years.

So I take it that you never break traffic laws while you drive your personal vehicle???

So I take it that you never break traffic laws while you drive your personal vehicle???

I'm sure he does, like most humans.

But tickets tend to be written to people who are clueless about their surroundings, and are therefore even greater hazards to the public. My personal lack of traffic citations isn't because I don't speed; I don't get tickets because I know when and when not to do it, and I'm always aware of what/who is around me and ahead of me, as well as what the overall traffic flow is doing.
Plus, I bet many of his tickets are for aggressive driving, something I'll never get "caught" doing.

Having said all that, watch me get nailed on my way home tonight.

Alex

Having said all that, watch me get nailed on my way home tonight.

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So I take it that you never break traffic laws while you drive your personal vehicle???
one of his previous threads mentions blowing a thermostat with his friend in an srt8 gc at 155mph while driving through nevada

i've got the k40 w/ shifters...the only time i got nailed was when i had turned it off for a phone call and forgot to turn it back on. I've got the shifter mounted on the front plate bracket as I understand that, that's where the laser gun is drawn to. 950 installed and has saved me at least 3 to 4x's it's worth.

So I take it that you never break traffic laws while you drive your personal vehicle???


ummmmmm, I don't remember saying that? I write so many because:

#1- In my department we have 2 hr overtime shifts where we conduct speed enforcement on busy roads, and since we don't make a ton to begin with, I gotta save my $$$ somehow to get my SRT. I work A LOT of these.

#2- IT IS PART OF MY JOB

you're shooting the messenger, stage

Let me just say when Cumadogg drives my srt the speedo is always in the 3 digit range and if memory serves me right on one trip we got pulled over. Needless to say after a brief discussion we were on our way without a ticket. Oh the perks of some jobs are great.

Per the internet, the Blinder in the #1 system on the market.

:) also per the internet..... if you forward this email along to 50 people in the next 5 minutes, Bill Gates will send you a check for 100,000.


;)

$5 per email and it does track every email so expect a large deposit automatically in your bank account. I hate it when stupid people email that ****. SUCKERS!!

Escort's ZR3 Shifter and Escort 8500 has saved my bank account from making any withdrawals to tickets. Works great from personal experience and it has saved me a few times and I use what I trust. I can not speak for the blinder as I have not used it.

Greetings all. I'm not an SRT owner, but I hope to be soon. Just have to get rid of this damn fusion... Anyway, I had a Blinder on my Intrepid. It both sucks and blows. I also have a Valentine 1. It's the best thing since sliced ham. I realized how much the blinder sucked when it would not go off, but the V1 would. And there was MDSP on the side of the road. And then it would go off, but the V1 wouldn't. Not a cop for miles. I don't even turn the blinder on anymore. Just my $0.25.

I have had the Escort Passport 8500 BLUE for quite some time and ZERO tickets.....:D

I am not going to use it on the GC...I'm going with the Escort SR7 with laser shifters....only because I want a stealth install......(I own a car stereo shop....this GC will eventually be a "test mule" for our work...:cool: )

Valentine is the best.

Best radar detector overall.Three models co-exist as the top radar detector in reviews. In addition to the Escort Passport 8500 X50, the Bel Pro RX65 and Valentine One also receive the highest scores in reviews. But the Bel Pro is only available in high-end auto electronics stores, and the Valentine One costs $100 more. The Escort radar detector sniffs out X, K and Ka-band radar guns from at least two miles away, and is especially good at tracking Ka-band guns in dangerous POP mode. Although the Valentine One is better at detecting laser guns, reviews say this aspect is of dubious value, since by the time the alarm sounds, it's already too late to avoid a ticket.

Best laser detection.The Valentine One took a lot of criticism in last year's reviews for its inability to detect radar guns in POP mode, which operates in hard-to-detect spurts. But Valentine has now added this feature, and aside from a high rate of false alarms, reviews say it works very well. The Valentine One is also great at detecting beams from laser speed guns, but once a laser has locked onto your vehicle, it's generally too late to avoid a ticket. Although the Valentine One is an excellent all-around radar detector, some reviews say its design and features are behind the times, and that it is too expensive, especially when the Escort Passport 8500 X50 is just as effective.

Go to RadarTest.com

I have owned many detectors since they were on the market. I have also been ticketed for speeding buy every police detection device known to man.I have owned what many consider the top three Passport, Valentine ,Beltronics, plus the cheaper brands. I don't drive without a detector. Passport was top of the line in the 1970's but lost it. The two Valentines that I owned leaked so much that when I followed friends with other high end detectors it sent their detectors into a frenzy. The Valentine has changed very little since they were introduced a long time ago.My best detectors for the past 15 years have been Beltronics. Be careful because detectors become obsolete very quick as new police detection technology comes available .Make sure to upgrade any detector the moment your manufacture offers it. Most high end manufactures have a trade in policy for upgrades. Forget about laser you can't beat it no matter what you buy.. Forget about jammers and diffusers (if it sounds too good to be true,it is. Your first warning should be something like if you get a speeding ticket we will pay for it) your just wasting your money. To effectively jam radar is illegal and is not sold on the market. They are just gimmicks especially any thing sold under the Brand name of Rocky Mountain. I have a police scanner Made by Bearcat that alerts me within 2 miles of police radio. That does what detectors don't do. It alerts me when they are checking speed from aircraft. Just remember they can get get you no matter what technology you have but the the better the technology (no gimmicks please). You may think you are being protected because your detector alerted you but don't' be fooled if it's under $300 I use it as hockey puck and if your high end detector isn't up to date you are just fooling yourself with false protection.

http://www.cherokeesrt8.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3740

Like i tried to explain before. any added gadgets are just that. they are not helping your radar performance. I drive by a known false alarm every day and half the time there is a cop shooting radar because he knows its a false alarm area and he will get you someday when you program your unit as being a false alarm. The way I look at is you bought a $250 radar detector and $200 GPS unit in the same box. While shopping I read on the passport with GPS and it still has lots of glitches. I went with the Beltronics STI Driver. It has no gadgets just pure performance .I have lived with false warnings for so long that they don't bother me and I can easily tell the difference. Unless it's a Valentine detector 2 miles ahead, then I just have to turn the unit off and pass the guy until he can no longer interfere. It's funny because I'm telling everyone they need to stay on top of the technology and you pointed out to me about the laser jammers. Which I knew nothing about. I hope people realize that these are high end units by reputable companies Most reports I read said they were only 50% sufficient but it's better than nothing. I may have to try one. Thanks for your your input.

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[QUOTE=Bandit]Like i tried to explain before. any added gadgets are just that. they are not helping your radar performance. I drive by a known false alarm every day and half the time there is a cop shooting radar because he knows its a false alarm area and he will get you someday when you program your unit as being a false alarm. The way I look at is you bought a $250 radar detector and $200 GPS unit in the same box. While shopping I read on the passport with GPS and it still has lots of glitches. I went with the Beltronics STI Driver. It has no gadgets just pure performance .I have lived with false warnings for so long that they don't bother me and I can easily tell the difference. Unless it's a Valentine detector 2 miles ahead, then I just have to turn the unit off and pass the guy until he can no longer interfere. It's funny because I'm telling everyone they need to stay on top of the technology and you pointed out to me about the laser jammers. Which I knew nothing about. I hope people realize that these are high end units by reputable companies Most reports I read said they were only 50% sufficient but it's better than nothing. I may have to try one. Thanks for your your input.

you might not read well. the new escort can tell the difference between a programmed frequency band and a different one in the same area.
http://www.escortradar.com/9500i.htm click on the demo on the left colum. also i had the bell. my brother and i bought it when it first came out... its junk. BOTH of ours broke with in 3 months. his stopped working because of the subs in the truck! mine fell off the window and it was done. i went and got the previous model passport. i imediatley saw the difference.
for many people they avoid buying a radar detector because of it being annoying in day to day driving. this completely eliminates that.
anyone who has an older modle or none at all might consider looking into this. great product and try it for 30 days free.
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