I've gotten a few PMs lately asking about the Navigation Hack. Here is what I know and what I did.

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Once you have the disk, the process is super simple. Take out your old Navigation Disk. Insert the new one...you will be prompted to hit "Enter" to install the new software. The install takes about 3 minutes. The main thing to remember is to keep your car running the entire time, if the Navigation console loses power...you just fried your Navigation system. During the install the screen will go blank for up to 30 seconds, don't worry..just don't touch anything until prompted.

Rob

Is there any chance that someone can do this hack to the new "AE" series Nav disks? It would be nice to have the "hack" applied to the latest Nav CD. :D

Is there any chance that someone can do this hack to the new "AE" series Nav disks? It would be nice to have the "hack" applied to the latest Nav CD. :D
The hacked discs mentioned in the first post are "AE".

Advantages of the Nav Hack?

Advantages of the Nav Hack?
Car doesn't have to be stopped to input a destination.

So, if you have the "AD" disk will this disk not work?

Now if there was a hack to make it touch screen....I hate that joy stick.

The nav hack is great. Even if it's just so the passenger can enter a new address it makes the system much more user friendly.

Alex

So, if you have the "AD" disk will this disk not work?
Loading the AE disc, hacked or non-hacked version, will upgrade the system to level "AE". The "AD" disc will then no longer work. The hack is designed around "AE" and not "AD".

Once a hacked "AE" disc is loaded the system firmware is updated to defeat the "in-motion" feature. This is the only function that the hack changes. Once the hack has been implemented the unit will still accept the non-hacked factory original AE disc.

Once the hack has been implemented the unit will still accept the non-hacked factory original AE disc.

Have you confirmed that? The documentation on the hack site seemed to imply that the hack increments the version code by 1, and that you can't go back to the non-hacked version. I haven't tried it, just wondering if you have actually done that.

Alex

Would this allow video input capability for a nintendo Wii on the nav screen?

Would this allow video input capability for a nintendo Wii on the nav screen?

It's deja vu all over again.

We got your message the last time. Really.

Alex

Have you confirmed that? The documentation on the hack site seemed to imply that the hack increments the version code by 1, and that you can't go back to the non-hacked version. I haven't tried it, just wondering if you have actually done that.

Alex
It has been confirmed, I know several people who temporarily loaded the modded disc for the hack and are now running the factory "AE". Loading the factory "AE" does not undo the hack as it is burned into the firmware. The factory "AE" disc would ignore the lower increment number from the hack as it is still within the "AE" parameters which are different from "AD".

One can also undo the in-motion hack by loading a modified incremented disc, and after that the factory "AE" disc can also still be loaded and used.

It has been confirmed, I know several people who temporarily loaded the modded disc for the hack and are now running the factory "AE". Loading the factory "AE" does not undo the hack as it is burned into the firmware. The factory "AE" disc would ignore the lower increment number from the hack as it is still within the "AE" parameters which are different from "AD".

One can also undo the in-motion hack by loading a modified incremented disc, and after that the factory "AE" disc can also still be loaded and used.

Gotcha. Thanks.

Alex

Unless I misunderstood, I've experienced different. My GC will no longer play the original disc. I don't remember exactly what it said, but it was something like the software version you are trying to run is outdated.

Unless I misunderstood, I've experienced different. My GC will no longer play the original disc. I don't remember exactly what it said, but it was something like the software version you are trying to run is outdated.
Your older disc must have been version "AD"...

It has been confirmed, I know several people who temporarily loaded the modded disc for the hack and are now running the factory "AE". Loading the factory "AE" does not undo the hack as it is burned into the firmware. The factory "AE" disc would ignore the lower increment number from the hack as it is still within the "AE" parameters which are different from "AD".

One can also undo the in-motion hack by loading a modified incremented disc, and after that the factory "AE" disc can also still be loaded and used.

I can also confirm this. I also did the hack to my wife's 2005 5.7 Jeep. What I did was put the hack disk in her "AD" system. After I did that I put the original "AE" disk from my SRT8 into her car. Works perfectly. 2 for the price of 1!

No, really, with the motion sensor mounted on the dash, the Wii would function very well I think. What do you think?

No, really, with the motion sensor mounted on the dash, the Wii would function very well I think. What do you think?
I think one must be carefull of breaking a strap and having the Wiimote go through the Nav screen. :(

I have the AD version what do I need to do? Buy the AE version and then get the hack?

I have the AD version what do I need to do? Buy the AE version and then get the hack?


Yea thats what i'm wondering also - so we wont have problems upgrading in the future.

You are right, and I completely forgot about the defective straps. I think they resolved that problem though. So, as long as you have the later version, a recalled/repaired controller, or a foot long piece of strapping tape, you are good to go.

WTF are you talking about?

Sorry about that.....hooking a Nintendo Wii up to the navigation screen.

Sorry about that.....hooking a Nintendo Wii up to the navigation screen.

I'm sure I'm saying this for others as well on other threads.... I'm trying to do a positive thing for this board and help others out. I don't see why you have to be such a douche bag and go jacking other people's threads. I really wish I had the ability to create a thread and ban CERTAIN people from responding. I already have you on my ignore list, but obviously that doesn't help when I create the thread.
I politely ask you to not post up on this thread anymore. You are not helping people who have worthwhile questions.
Thank you.

I'm sure I'm saying this for others as well on other threads.... I'm trying to do a positive thing for this board and help others out. I don't see why you have to be such a douche bag and go jacking other people's threads. I really wish I had the ability to create a thread and ban CERTAIN people from responding. I already have you on my ignore list, but obviously that doesn't help when I create the thread.
I politely ask you to not post up on this thread anymore. You are not helping people who have worthwhile questions.
Thank you.

Couldn't have said it better, and could not agree with you more. I've been quiet for a while now on this one, but want you to know I am in absolute agreement with you. Totally agree also with your polite request. Let's see if he has any class or respect for those asking a legitimate question. For those who are unfamiliar with from where this issue comes, search CC's posts for some interesting reading. Of course I am not flaming, and no disrespect meant. :D

I thought it was fun just to humor him. ;)

What are you guys talking about? Hooking up an entertainment system for the front seat passenger to use is all I am talking about. Others have posted the very same topic, the only difference is what it is that the front seat passenger is doing. What is the difference if they are programming the Nav system, watching a movie, or playing a Wii? Who made you the judge of what a "worthwhile" topic is? You need to chill out.

No need to wish for censorship dude, just relocate to any of the multitude of countries other than the US that enforce such policies with an iron fist.

Your noise is old and annoying.

Maybe you could put all that energy towards posting something worthwhile. Anything.

Alex

The nice things about the Wii are its' small size, so it can easily be mounted in the glove box near the access/wiring for the Nav head unit, it is front loading/feeding like the in dash CD.

I can't remember if the power source is external or internal??? It would be easier if it were internal for space concerns, but cooling could be a problem when temps hit the 90s. The screen resolution is also just right, but I encounter an unforeseen problem with the sensor bar. It is linear and the best spot to mount it is on top of the nav pod which is curved....I am working on a solution to that one. Any thoughts?

The nice things about the Wii are its' small size, so it can easily be mounted in the glove box near the access/wiring for the Nav head unit, it is front loading/feeding like the in dash CD.

I can't remember if the power source is external or internal??? It would be easier if it were internal for space concerns, but cooling could be a problem when temps hit the 90s. The screen resolution is also just right, but I encounter an unforeseen problem with the sensor bar. It is linear and the best spot to mount it is on top of the nav pod which is curved....I am working on a solution to that one. Any thoughts?

There you go, this is helpful.

When you get it all worked out, post pics please.

Alex

That's all I've been saying all along. How about some help? That sensor bar is turning out to be a bear to install with a finished appearance.

Helpful, but a thread hiijack nonetheless. lol. Not interested in the Wii myself. Love my 360Xbox and interested in the PS3. If you really are working on this project, people would probably be interested in pics.

If you really are working on this project, people would probably be interested in pics.

Don't hold your breath.

Alex

I agree, for the home, the PS3, or 360 are far better than the Wii. However they don't lend themselves to this application. The PS3 is way big and runs hot, also the resolution is wasted on the Nav screen. The 360 is also big, has a huge external power supply, a front loading tray, and the same resolution mismatch problem. The Wii is a much better match to this application, IMO.

The Wii will also not work for your application because Nintendo requests that the sensor bar be at least 3 feet away from the Wiimote during use. Sorry to ruin your dream.

That is the suggestion, and performance is not "optimal" at closer range, but, as the convexity of the pod on top of the Nav unit has necessitated rethinking the placement.

Three possibilities....up high at the headliner, far forward at the junction of the dash and windshield, and dead center on the windshield. Any thoughts?

Any thoughts?

Start a new thread to ponder this?

That occured to me for a minute, however, since the final common pathway must follow in the precise footsteps of the Nav hack in question, it seems a logical extension of this existing thread. In other words, the same process leading to somewhat different results.

Hey mods. How come there's no Report a Post functionality on this board?

Alex

That occured to me for a minute, however, since the final common pathway must follow in the precise footsteps of the Nav hack in question, it seems a logical extension of this existing thread. In other words, the same process leading to somewhat different results.
You just refuse to give up, don't you?

AlexT; Try the menu at the bottom right of this page, the first/most leftward option is "contact us". If you click that item, it will take you to a internal email screen from which you can easilt, well, "contact us" to report a post.

Alternately, at the upper right of this page in your welcome box, if you click the "private message" option, this will take you to a screen in which the left sidebar allows you to send new private messages. All you need to do then is address it to the moderator that you would like to contact and send him, or her a message.

Hope that helps. Good luck.

AlexT; Try the menu at the bottom right of this page, the first/most leftward option is "contact us". If you click that item, it will take you to a internal email screen from which you can easilt, well, "contact us" to report a post.

Alternately, at the upper right of this page in your welcome box, if you click the "private message" option, this will take you to a screen in which the left sidebar allows you to send new private messages. All you need to do then is address it to the moderator that you would like to contact and send him, or her a message.

Hope that helps. Good luck.

Not really. Not what I was asking about. But thanks anyway.

Alex

What do you mean by "give up"? If that were my intent, why bother seeking input and offering ideas on a forum?

Anyway, we are straying off topic, so, I had alluded to temperature concerns earlier, and this is a potential problem that someone may have experience with out there. Apart from the recommended operating temperatures from the manufacturer (Nintendo in this case), has anyone had problems with in vehicle electronics that were really not intended or designed for this application? If so, what should I expect in extreme cold (down to -5 F) or hot (120 F in cabin and 100 F outside)? What about humidity? Are there any easy steps to prevent such problems (insulation?? other?).

What do you mean by "give up"? If that were my intent, why bother seeking input and offering ideas on a forum?

Do you really think that any of us believe you really care about putting a Wii in your ride? Your purpose is to create discord, plain & simple. You can lie all you want.

As opposed to trying to read minds (a futile effort), why not respond to what is presented taken at face value, if you so desire, or not if you have no interest or input to offer?

Seriously, what about temperature effects on electronics not designed for in vehicle use?

Read minds? No.

Interpret the truth behind the lie based on past actions? Yes.

You really are batty. Have fun playing with your Wii.

Have fun playing with your Wii.

Did you really mean Wii-Wii?

Alex

CC..... start a new thread about the Wii and let this one get back to the Nav hack, ok?

Thanks,
The Mgmt

Crazy like a fox....reread the posts and examine your own thinking as you contemplate my Wii proposal in context with the Nav hack and similar endeavors....it should be enlightening. Cheers, for now.

Enlightening or not, this thread isn't the place for it. Start a new thread.

Crazy like a fox....reread the posts and examine your own thinking as you contemplate my Wii proposal in context with the Nav hack and similar endeavors....it should be enlightening. Cheers, for now.

I think everyone saw completely through you. At least anyone who has had read your previous worthless bandwidth on this topic.

Alex

Hey mods. How come there's no Report a Post functionality on this board?

AlexAlthough I have just made certain this is a moot point in this particular case, the answer to your question is you've overlooked it. The "Report Post" icon http://www.cherokeesrt8.com/forums/images/buttons/report.gif is found in the upper right hand corner of the red frame around every post. Clicking that icon sends your complaint to every moderator and administrator about the problem. Much more effective, I might add, than feeding the Trolls by replying to them and providing the very attention they seek!

Please do NOT feed the Trolls!

Although I have just made certain this is a moot point in this particular case, the answer to your question is you've overlooked it. The "Report Post" icon http://www.cherokeesrt8.com/forums/images/buttons/report.gif is found in the upper right hand corner of the red frame around every post. Clicking that icon sends your complaint to every moderator and administrator about the problem. Much more effective, I might add, than feeding the Trolls by replying to them and providing the very attention they seek!

Please do NOT feed the Trolls!
Thanks Hemeee.

Alex

never even noticed that icon.

Gentlemen, we've discussed it and this one is getting shut down...

The Service Manual, Owner's Manual, navigation disks, etc. are copyrighted material and the sharing of that material, without express permission from DaimlerChrysler, Alpine, or their respective legal teams, is theft. What members do in private is their business, but we have worked hard to build the special relationship we enjoy with DCX and the SRT Team and don't want to see that jeopardized. Our policy must be to disallow threads/links in this regard.

We don't have formal rules in place here yet, but we've grown to the point that they are due soon.
In the meantime, thank you for understanding our position and respecting it by not posting similar info in the future.

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