I have this buddy at work that has this bmw 335i twin turbo and he wants to race. He keeps telling me that he can beat my jeep with no problem. A couple of people that rode in his car says there no wayi would win it would be close. So I looked up his car and got his stats and it does a 0-60 in 4.8 and a 1/4 in 13.4. I was runinng 13.2's stock and now i just got two basic mods 4" CAI and a IMco muffler. I told him I dont do the roll races, so we going to go from a dead stop. It should be a good race but who do you think is going to win I have a tank of gas on the line for this if I win or when I win:D

If he isn't packing a tune it's all you. With a tune I would lean it back towards him.

With the jeeps ability to leave the line though I doubt he will even bother trying to continue by the time you hit 60mph.

Good luck! Sounds like an easy win to me.

im gunna have to agree with s8er01z...our trucks are incredibly fast off the line, you dont realize it until you are on the sidelines watching. you should pull at least 2 cars on him at start.

i raced one countless times and he lost all the races (to a 300c before vortech)
with tune it would be faster than your jeep, because it almost doubles their boost

agree... they would need AWD to keep up at all...

can you preboost those with the stock computer?

I'm curious. Please let us know WHEN you win. Hell, try to get it on video. I'm sure you're gonna have witnesses. Have one hold a camera. LOL.

eddiefig... that is a ron burgandy quote... not anchorman :)

fyi... auto or 6 speed? i wouldnt doubt their autos beating a 6-speed with a normal driver... you dont lose you boost with an auto... but if you take your foot off the gas when you would shift you have to build again...

when i was racing someone in my shelby z that i knew would be close i would leave the right pedal down and if the motor blew then she blew in style... haha

ACTUALLY...LOL. Paul Rudd's character said it about the black panther cologne but I can't remember his name in the movie so I just made it a movie quote. Lol.

ohh **** your right my bad...

GET into his mind!! When you are lined up against him, rev your engine, trash talk, the trick is to get the other driver to 'tense' up. Make him feel that he needs a near perfect launch to beat you.

From personal experience, every time I do this, the other driver almost always blows their launch!

Good luck

GET into his mind!! When you are lined up against him, rev your engine, trash talk, the trick is to get the other driver to 'tense' up. Make him feel that he needs a near perfect launch to beat you.

From personal experience, every time I do this, the other driver almost always blows their launch!

Good luck

lol thats great right there... I took one of the guys that rode in his car for a little spin after work and he said he almost piss his pants. He also said that my car had him push back in the seat more than the bmw. So will see next week ill try to get someone to video it for yall.

GET into his mind!! When you are lined up against him, rev your engine, trash talk, the trick is to get the other driver to 'tense' up. Make him feel that he needs a near perfect launch to beat you.

From personal experience, every time I do this, the other driver almost always blows their launch!

Good luck

LOL! Funny!

you will win, with the intake alone you'll pull a car or two till 90ish. Plus he has to launch perfect to even hang at 1 cars length with you. By then hell quit and fall off as 90% do because they just assume, "chit hes got mad hp and will pull away all day so i should bail haha." Unless this guy did his hw and knows about out rigs (as 95% do not haha, your good, 100% win bro) Its impossible not to launch these things, just need to react good, otherwise you could blow it too, but im sure your fine there bro, (concentration). So line up mash it on go and stay on it, you will win for sure, GL (if he has tune, nvm then, fall back haha)

OH **** funny you brought this up , this race is all you , I went against the 135i 6sp ECU Tune . 3 Races from 0-60 i smoked him by 1-2 car length all 3 times , Easy task and I'm stock .

I know they are slower than the new M3's
And I raced one twice tonight at the track
Beet him both times on the 1/4
Just make sure its from a dead stop to lets say 90mph
then the gas will be yours !!!!!!

Wouldn't worry about it, even with a tune. They're only seeing 40-50hp gains from basic tunes. And if it doesn't have the Sport package, then it has no oil cooler. If he stays on it he'll cook the oil and seize the turbos.

Been there, smoked that. :)

Wouldn't worry about it, even with a tune. They're only seeing 40-50hp gains from basic tunes. And if it doesn't have the Sport package, then it has no oil cooler. If he stays on it he'll cook the oil and seize the turbos.

Been there, smoked that. :)

They make just under 300rwhp stock...40-50rwhp gains put them very close to what you are making in a lighter package. I wouldn't be so sure of the beast against a tuned one unless I knew the driver didn't know what they were doing.

For example..this is from Juice Box
Stage 1 adds up to 25 horsepower and 35 torque to the wheels (30hp / 40tq crank), Stage 2 adds up to 50 horsepower and 60 torque to the wheels (60hp / 75tq crank), and Stage 3 adds up to 80 horsepower and 80 torque to the wheels (100hp / 100tq crank).

Now the true test is our car versus the 335xi... :)

Now the true test is our car versus the 335xi... :)

How is the driveline holding up on those with some extra ecu power? Anyone know.:confused:

how do you guys think the Jeep SRT8 stacks up against the Mercedes E55 AMG?

Now the true test is our car versus the 335xi... :)

my mom has a 335xi, no contest. its slow off the line.

i raced and beat my friends full exhaust, coilover, and sticky rubber 335 up to 90 multiple times when i was stock at 4500ft altitude. after that he would start pulling. you'll win this race.

the tunes are great but many people are around a 12.8-13 flat with them which is about where you should be too.

how do you guys think the Jeep SRT8 stacks up against the Mercedes E55 AMG?

dont bother, those things are rockets

Yea even stock they are low 12's and have been known to touch 11's with sticky tires.

I traded a guy I work with for his e55 for a night while he put my jl 10w7 in for me. That thing is utterly filthy. That said - off the line we got it just because of AWD. The e55 literally doesn't grip till like 40 mph, and even then if you floor it till you click you are gonna have some shredded tires. from 50+ they are unstoppable. I think road and track gave them the best real world 45-70 passing acceleration rating on any stock car. 70-120 is mind boggling. I should get to trade with my other friend for his c63 over the course of the next month. I'll throw up some pictures of the e55 in my garage and with my jeep soon.

I actually raced a 335xi on the freeway and we were dead even... From what he said he said that i was creeping on him.. I was dead stock too... But from a stop and 1/8 mile i am pretty sure you can get him. 1/4 will be little different... Will be a close race...

I traded a guy I work with for his e55 for a night while he put my jl 10w7 in for me. That thing is utterly filthy. That said - off the line we got it just because of AWD. The e55 literally doesn't grip till like 40 mph, and even then if you floor it till you click you are gonna have some shredded tires. from 50+ they are unstoppable. I think road and track gave them the best real world 45-70 passing acceleration rating on any stock car. 70-120 is mind boggling. I should get to trade with my other friend for his c63 over the course of the next month. I'll throw up some pictures of the e55 in my garage and with my jeep soon.

Welcome to the world of real bests , I had an 04 S55 With a ECU tune and Pulley and that thing was mind blowing fast . The C63 Is retarded Fast and when you star entering the world of the V12TT S600 SL600 (S65 AMG 604HP STOCK) a simple ECU Tune you pumping 700+HP :eek:

Thanks for everyone input on this thread. He does have an oil cooler and he does have some kind of tune. He doesn't know what kind of tune he has. He says he got the car in germany when he was station there and he took it to some german tunning shop and said he wants it faster. He has no number on hp or tq but he says he took it to 172mph. So we'll see tomorrow.

172mph doesn't mean much...slippery car with ~300rwhp and you can hit that number easy. (A stock C5 will go over the 175 mark)

How is the driveline holding up on those with some extra ecu power? Anyone know.:confused:

from what i heard not well at all... like worse then ours way worse

Thanks for everyone input on this thread. He does have an oil cooler and he does have some kind of tune. He doesn't know what kind of tune he has. He says he got the car in germany when he was station there and he took it to some german tunning shop and said he wants it faster. He has no number on hp or tq but he says he took it to 172mph. So we'll see tomorrow.

an omni can do 172 if you are going down hill with a tail wind :)

I've owned both (currently own an 07 335i sedan). Surprisingly, the 335i is easy to launch. Very little wheel spin, but that being said, it launches nothing like the Jeep. Keep it short, up to 90mph or so as everyone is saying.

And, the difference in curb weight (about 300lbs) between the i and x makes a BIG difference. 335i is quicker.

Why is this thread still going, have you raced this guy yet?

I owned a 335i coupe, they're nice cars... small but nice. You'll eat him off the line. With the Vishnu Stage II tune piggyback, more than likely he'll destroy you from a roll. They have an open rear end but the T/C never actually turns completely off, so when people say they're "easy to launch", it means the computer is helping them out.

Go race the guy, enough speculation.

Why is this thread still going, have you raced this guy yet?

I owned a 335i coupe, they're nice cars... small but nice. You'll eat him off the line. With the Vishnu Stage II tune piggyback, more than likely he'll destroy you from a roll. They have an open rear end but the T/C never actually turns completely off, so when people say they're "easy to launch", it means the computer is helping them out.

Go race the guy, enough speculation.

Even when I "fully" disable the T/C (holding the button down for 3 secs or so) it still is quite simple to lunch. It's also quite simple to pull a doughnut with it diabled :) The cars are remarkably balanced weight wise

A dorky guy from work has the e55 amg stock, with 50K on it. Everyone says it will DESTROY the jeep.... they say dude its a jeep, u got no chance....
No 1 knows I have work done either...

What do you guys think? should I push to race from a stop?

As of now were not racing cuz everyone thinks its a waste of time. and the guy isnt all about racing. But if I push the race and talk smack I can get a race.... I just dont want to loose then. The guys at work would never shut up..... And I havent lost to any1 yet ;) ..... I love the confidence

A dorky guy from work has the e55 amg stock, with 50K on it. Everyone says it will DESTROY the jeep.... they say dude its a jeep, u got no chance....
No 1 knows I have work done either...

What do you guys think? should I push to race from a stop?

As of now were not racing cuz everyone thinks its a waste of time. and the guy isnt all about racing. But if I push the race and talk smack I can get a race.... I just dont want to loose then. The guys at work would never shut up..... And I havent lost to any1 yet ;) ..... I love the confidence

tell him to take $100 off of you... tell him easy money since he got that expensive AMG :)

I've owned both, and right now my 335i has a nasty tune in it. That being said if he is stock it's game over from a stop. If he has a tune you're still going to spank him off the line. Don't race from a roll if he is packing. These things just keep pulling.

A dorky guy from work has the e55 amg stock, with 50K on it. Everyone says it will DESTROY the jeep.... they say dude its a jeep, u got no chance....
No 1 knows I have work done either...

What do you guys think? should I push to race from a stop?

As of now were not racing cuz everyone thinks its a waste of time. and the guy isnt all about racing. But if I push the race and talk smack I can get a race.... I just dont want to loose then. The guys at work would never shut up..... And I havent lost to any1 yet ;) ..... I love the confidence

From experience driving both cars you should have him from a stop. You have more stuff done to your car then I have done to mine, and I can honestly say I beat "a dorky guy I work with that drives an E55" from a dig, so its funny you phrased it like that. He will beat you up from a roll, but that thing runs like a 12.5 quarter mile from a stop, so with a little modding you shouldn't be that far off even his 1/4 time.

Sooo. . . with your jeep you should have him up to moderate speeds from a standstill cause he's not gonna be gripping right for some time. My money would be on you, confidently.

Something tells me a stock SRT8 wouldn't have one from a stop unless the guy sits and spins... AWD is nice but a high power RWD car is no slouch launching on newer rubber...even the stock rubber.
1/4 Mile ET: 12.071
1/4 Mile MPH: 116.330
1/8 Mile ET: 7.804
1/8 Mile MPH: 90.940
0-60 Foot ET: 1.818

http://www.dragtimes.com/images_timeslip/7808-2005-Mercedes-Benz-E55%20AMG-Timeslip.jpg

Something tells me a stock SRT8 wouldn't have one from a stop unless the guy sits and spins... AWD is nice but a high power RWD car is no slouch launching on newer rubber...even the stock rubber.
1/4 Mile ET: 12.071
1/4 Mile MPH: 116.330
1/8 Mile ET: 7.804
1/8 Mile MPH: 90.940
0-60 Foot ET: 1.818

http://www.dragtimes.com/images_timeslip/7808-2005-Mercedes-Benz-E55%20AMG-Timeslip.jpg


^ this isnt stock is it?
I thought more like a 12.5.... Im not going to hit 12.0`s.... unless DA WAY negative... If this is stock I dont think we can mess with these... As long as we stay NA

good luck, keep us posted

ACTUALLY...LOL. Paul Rudd's character said it about the black panther cologne but I can't remember his name in the movie so I just made it a movie quote. Lol.


not to thread jack but.................

http://www.collider.com/uploads/imageGallery/Anchorman/anchorman_the_legend_of_ron_burgundy_movie_image__ 11_.jpg

^ this isnt stock is it?
I thought more like a 12.5.... Im not going to hit 12.0`s.... unless DA WAY negative... If this is stock I dont think we can mess with these... As long as we stay NA

I've been reading the MBworld.org forums and there are some stock E55 AMG's that have hit high 11.9xx stock. A lot of review sites list the E55 to do a 12.2 1/4 mile time. Pretty darn impressive for a stock sedan.

I know the decision on the car I'm going to get just got a lot tougher. I really love the way Jeep SRT8's look and perform, but I think the E55 AMG looks bada$$ as well, and the E55 interior is just amazing. hrm....

just an fyi i believe the E55 is a supercharged 5.7L
swapping the pulley and a retune alone make it pretty ridiculous (imo)

^Shu i think they'd compliment each other very well in your garage ;)

The E55 AMG would cost a hell of a lot more to maintain and should it break.... you may need a loan to fix that puppy. My 2 cents

The E55 AMG would cost a hell of a lot more to maintain and should it break.... you may need a loan to fix that puppy. My 2 cents

LOL oh so true

My dad has a 335i and i actually took it to work today and i gotta say its pretty damn fast. Its an auto but if your going like 30 or 40 and hit it those turbos just spool and u take off. Off the line its not bad at all cuz it is twin turbo so its not as laggy as single turbos tend to be. I think my jeep is faster off the line. But I think that the bmw would catch up at higher speeds. If he had the dinan tune and exhaust it suppose to add 84 horsepower then youd be in trouble.

so would the 335's driveline :)

Why is this thread still going, have you raced this guy yet?

I owned a 335i coupe, they're nice cars... small but nice. You'll eat him off the line. With the Vishnu Stage II tune piggyback, more than likely he'll destroy you from a roll. They have an open rear end but the T/C never actually turns completely off, so when people say they're "easy to launch", it means the computer is helping them out.

Go race the guy, enough speculation.

With Vishes tuning he would give a good run from a roll if the motor didnt let go first. Vishnu did my STI back in high school, tuned WAY too lean and blew it up on the dyno. Then told me to pack sand........And I havent been the only one........

Stock JEEP with nothing at all, nothing beside a CMR tune, I have raced and rapped a 335i from a dig till about 100 mph.. everytime i kick him, the only thing i was trying to understand is that why he kept on racing me at each traffic light !! he just doesnt get it :D

i have no clue from a rol. i tried from a dig

I own both, stock GCSRT8 and stock 335i coupe. Hands down, the GCSRT is the winner 0-60. And that assumes he is dropping the clutch and screwing up his clutch in the process. 1/4 mile may be a toss up. What kind of race was he talking about? That being said, the 335 is a great daily driver...and so is the GCSRT8.

I own both, stock GCSRT8 and stock 335i coupe. Hands down, the GCSRT is the winner 0-60. And that assumes he is dropping the clutch and screwing up his clutch in the process. 1/4 mile may be a toss up. What kind of race was he talking about? That being said, the 335 is a great daily driver...and so is the GCSRT8.

Nice choices! I have a 335i sedan auto w/sports package, jb3 tune, and dual cone air intake. I also have a GCSRT8, w/ MHP custom tune and bwoody cai.

I agree the GCSRT8 seems faster 0-60 but anything after that Im pretty sure my 335i has it. From a roll the 335i will probably win too.

As far as a daily driver, the 335i is my choice. Its fun as hell when you turn the dsc off. The GCSRT8 is fun too and it definitely gets more looks.

Just race the guy and get it over with. You should win if it's a street race.
My cousine has a 335i I beat him 3 out of 3 from a dead stop.
So you shouldn't worry about it...If he wins he beat an SUV, that's really nothing to brag about. If you beat him then he'll feel stupid for loosing to an SUV.
It's kind of a win win situation.

BTW an E55 AMG is way too much money, if I can afford one I still will not buy one.
I'll get me a classic MOPAR.

I have this buddy at work that has this bmw 335i twin turbo and he wants to race. He keeps telling me that he can beat my jeep with no problem. A couple of people that rode in his car says there no wayi would win it would be close. So I looked up his car and got his stats and it does a 0-60 in 4.8 and a 1/4 in 13.4. I was runinng 13.2's stock and now i just got two basic mods 4" CAI and a IMco muffler. I told him I dont do the roll races, so we going to go from a dead stop. It should be a good race but who do you think is going to win I have a tank of gas on the line for this if I win or when I win:D

hi there

i also as well as the jeep own a 335i m sport coupe and a 645i conv

the jeep will easily take both cars off the line

335i is a nice car but no match for your monster

well.... wow thats all i have to say about this thread, but i have some bad news. Has been switch to a different unit. Plus I Deploy in like 5 days so i havent really paid any mind to this thread intilll today when i saw it the top. But i guess he google the beast and knew what he was getting in to so he didnt push the race no more... But thanks for all the input on it though..

well.... wow thats all i have to say about this thread, but i have some bad news. Has been switch to a different unit. Plus I Deploy in like 5 days so i havent really paid any mind to this thread intilll today when i saw it the top. But i guess he google the beast and knew what he was getting in to so he didnt push the race no more... But thanks for all the input on it though..

After all I've been waiting , bro are you serious !!!!:boohoo:

well.... wow thats all i have to say about this thread, but i have some bad news. Has been switch to a different unit. Plus I Deploy in like 5 days so i havent really paid any mind to this thread intilll today when i saw it the top. But i guess he google the beast and knew what he was getting in to so he didnt push the race no more... But thanks for all the input on it though..


As much as I love the GCSRT8...Jamal you are 6000+ feet above sea level (Colorado Springs) meaning N/A car blow big balls at this elevation. Add in the fact that he is 1100lbs lighter with Forced Induction i.e. twin turbo's and a tune it would have been fun from a dig but after that I believe he would have caught up and passed you pretty quickly. Most sea level cars that run at bandimere (5800 ft) that are N/A lose about 1.2 seconds in the quarter mile while the F/I cars lose about half of that....atlitude KILLS power especially when you don't have F/I. Just my 2 cents ;)

As much as I love the GCSRT8...Jamal you are 6000+ feet above sea level (Colorado Springs) meaning N/A car blow big balls at this elevation. Add in the fact that he is 1100lbs lighter with Forced Induction i.e. twin turbo's and a tune it would have been fun from a dig but after that I believe he would have caught up and passed you pretty quickly. Most sea level cars that run at bandimere (5800 ft) that are N/A lose about 1.2 seconds in the quarter mile while the F/I cars lose about half of that....atlitude KILLS power especially when you don't have F/I. Just my 2 cents ;)

Excellent point... in fact I would bet that he would have you covered at that altitude from about 100ft off the line until the end. High altitude for the loss... (or just high DA period)

As much as I love the GCSRT8...Jamal you are 6000+ feet above sea level (Colorado Springs) meaning N/A car blow big balls at this elevation. Add in the fact that he is 1100lbs lighter with Forced Induction i.e. twin turbo's and a tune it would have been fun from a dig but after that I believe he would have caught up and passed you pretty quickly. Most sea level cars that run at bandimere (5800 ft) that are N/A lose about 1.2 seconds in the quarter mile while the F/I cars lose about half of that....atlitude KILLS power especially when you don't have F/I. Just my 2 cents ;)

Yeah, not much hope for the Jeep at this altitude.