Woke up this mornin just to find a text askin if wanted to run an evo 9 tonight after work..here are the specs:

Evo: an intake, exhaust, ported stock turbo and a tune

My GCSRT8: bone stock..

assuming that its gonna be from a dead stop, do i have anything to worry about tonight?

TIA
Moe

w/ the ported turbo & tune, a good driver in the evo will have you by at least a car length.

Depends on the driver but if he can drive you will lose. Bone stock they are a drivers race against the GCSRT8... with said mods he will be flying pending he knows how to launch it.

I DUST evos
Already put 1 in it's place a few days ago.

If ur bone stock, assuming the evo can drive ur going to loose. U need some mods, u know how pissed he would be if he lost to a jeep in his evo :)

Espically with the ported turbo + tune.

I DUST evos
Already put 1 in it's place a few days ago.

If ur bone stock, assuming the evo can drive ur going to loose. U need some mods, u know how pissed he would be if he lost to a jeep in his evo :)

Espically with the ported turbo + tune.

ur DAMN right i do, Borla, Headers, intake, tune should do the trick right?? im calling up a vendor after work lol

Looks like im gonna hold off on this race tonight, havent lost in the jeep yet and dont really want to, id rather keep the streak goin for as loonggg as possible :D

Half the mods ricers yack about don't work for crap, the times they claim and dynonumbers touted rarely account for much more than a sputtering fart can barely making its way down the track.

If he ACTUALLY has a clean and functioning car then it will be a good race. If you can get your jeep in the mid 12's with bolt-ons then I'd say you will beat him.

He'll beat you.....pretty easily

Tune, intake, exhaust, and better tires should help a lot

thanks for all the replies fella'z

see im the type of guy that likes to be worry free when pulling up at the light :D the thought of "barely" beating an evo with the mods stated above has me thinking about a heads and a cam setup, and also has me seriously questioning the price of the borla if it will give the jeep an "all bark and no bite" status :rolleyes:

with around a 4k budget at the moment, im just wondering if i have the right gameplan here guys

thanks for all the replies fella'z

see im the type of guy that likes to be worry free when pulling up at the light :D the thought of "barely" beating an evo with the mods stated above has me thinking about a heads and a cam setup, and also has me seriously questioning the price of the borla if it will give the jeep an "all bark and no bite" status :rolleyes:

with around a 4k budget at the moment, im just wondering if i have the right gameplan here guys

Heads/Cam is a great mod... just realize that an N/A application, the whole rodeo is aimed at just moving more air into and out of the engine. Without headers and exhaust on the backside, and CAI/intake porting/Throttle body, you're not maximizing the benefits of heads/cam. Heads/Cam themselves will run you under $2500, but the supporting mods bust your $4000 budget easily.

s/c it and race him, lol.

Heads/Cam is a great mod... just realize that an N/A application, the whole rodeo is aimed at just moving more air into and out of the engine. Without headers and exhaust on the backside, and CAI/intake porting/Throttle body, you're not maximizing the benefits of heads/cam. Heads/Cam themselves will run you under $2500, but the supporting mods bust your $4000 budget easily.

again thanks for the quick replies

that makes perfect sense, well the bolt ons will have to do, and from what i heard will make a huge difference in the overall feel of the vehicle (which i find already bada$$)

so for now im thinkin CAI, Kooks, BorlaS,Custom tune, and ofcourse medics sick a$$ hood, matchin lows/fogs, and a rear fog harness :D I figure il play with that until next summer after the funds are replenished :D

Heads/Cam is a great mod... just realize that an N/A application, the whole rodeo is aimed at just moving more air into and out of the engine. Without headers and exhaust on the backside, and CAI/intake porting/Throttle body, you're not maximizing the benefits of heads/cam. Heads/Cam themselves will run you under $2500, but the supporting mods bust your $4000 budget easily.

nicely stated....sometimes the best way to get where you want to be with performance and deciding which mods to choose, is to step back and simplify. think about the physics of it all, how and engine works (air/fuel), and then think about how to improve on overall flow and how mods will work together or how they might work against each other...these general guidelines should help you get on your way in choosing which mod frst and which one last, not to mention it will give you a good idea of how much money you will need to save up and when to spend it. ;) get a t-stat, CAI, headers, and a tune for starters...;)

IMO.....

If that EVO can't launch you will beat him

It's all about if he can get out of the hole under boost.

My buddy has a modded EVO, For those of you who were at ZMAX in NC saw it. His car is pretty quick but will do the "bob and wooosh" off the line if you can't drive it correctly.

I say race him with confidence in your Jeep. If he launches hard as Sh!t you'll lose but if he can't drive it's all you!

You gotta 50-50 shot...Gamble a little

how would that evo hold against my new setup I get those guys all the time in those damn things wanting to race.... H/c/h intake, manifold TB, 3000 tc, oh and the NX haha... Im planning on that BB VB too... I just dont want to be bothered with those guys them and the damn TB SuperSLow guys they are everywhere here

Id still run him ****, life is short, sure you may lose, but dont back down unless you are putting something up. This way you can have some fun, maybe still get hi and this way you ca show him a "stock beast" this in turn will get his head big. Then race him in a few more weeks with said mods and well, you catch my drift, hell be poopooing his pants and be on his way to the mod store himself ;) GL, have some fun, dont throw down the slip of course haha (reference to the kid in the mustang story, instant classic)

So with the constantly $hitty Chicagoland weather, we decided to wait out the rain and go at it the next evening..

We line up, with his gf getting ready to throw down the flag, he looks over to her and says "this ones for you baby" :rolleyes:

She throws down and I launch off the line like a bat outta hell instantly gaining about a length and a half on him (kid obviously couldn't drive (launch) for crap).

I kept that distance for a good majority of the run but it wasnt hard to tell had I not shut her down, his lighter F/I evo would have eventually gained the lead, but that doesnt matter to me b/c a wins a win regardless :D

I drove back to the starting point where our friends (and his GF :D) were waiting and told her this: "damn, your man must really care about you to dedicate an entire LOSS to you :D hahaha Goodnight!!" and with the stomp of my right foot, I went home a winner :D:D:D

N-I-C-E W-O-R-K ;) So you didn't wait around to hear the explanation or the excuses from the Evo driver??

WOW nice work man!!...how far did you run before shutting down? MPH/Distance?

Was he catching up quickly or just slowly creeping?

LMAO Nice Kill.

N-I-C-E W-O-R-K ;) So you didn't wait around to hear the explanation or the excuses from the Evo driver??

haha nahh the fact that he lost even with his mods vs my stock beast is bad enough :D

WOW nice work man!!...how far did you run before shutting down? MPH/Distance?

Was he catching up quickly or just slowly creeping?

It was more or less around a 1/4 mile, and he was slowly creeping up so i cut it off while i was still in the lead

It was more or less around a 1/4 mile, and he was slowly creeping up so i cut it off while i was still in the lead

Very nice! and well played. :cool:

Nice win. My mentality is that I will race anything from a dig and even if I lose to a badass car its not a big deal cuz in all actuality "its just a jeep". I guarantee you the guys we beat don't take a loss quite that easy:D

You say your budget is 4K? Save up another grand if you can and grab a vortech. You could race the evo day in and day out and not worry a bit.

The guy was a bad driver. I have evo for years already and still everytime of switching from jeep to the evo, driving it scares me sometimes. I am at 418 WHP or about 500HP at the engine. Stock turbo, engine, etc. I only have, full exhaust, intake and cams running e85 gas. 1/4 11.4 seconds and 122 mph :)

I only have, full exhaust, intake and cams running e85 gas. 1/4 11.4 seconds and 122 mph :)

I call Bullsh!t on this..........

An EVO with exhaust , intake, and cams don't run 11.4's

You must have other mods you're not telling us about

I call Bullsh!t on this..........

An EVO with exhaust , intake, and cams don't run 11.4's

You must have other mods you're not telling us about

He's running E85 too Keoni, That really does help out FI Cars a ton. Very believable with that kind of fuel.

He's running E85 too Keoni, That really does help out FI Cars a ton. Very believable with that kind of fuel.

No way......EVO's don't run low 11's with intake, exhaust, and fuel.

I will not believe it unless I see it with my own 2 eyes at the track

No way......EVO's don't run low 11's with intake, exhaust, and fuel.

I will not believe it unless I see it with my own 2 eyes at the track
It depends on how much boost the stock turbo can make. Guys with Turbo Buicks are running 25# +- of boost on E85 with the stock turbo. I would figure a new Evo could make the same boost. So it should run pretty damned well.

But the OP didn't sat anything about upping the boost

He said exhaust, intake, Cams, and E85......11.4

you are right I missed few things, 1000 cc injectors, larger fuel pump, peak boost 32PSI, 27 till redline. Untill the end of the year planing on starting engine build as i am on the edge with power here.

I am curiuse has anybody tried to get our jeeps to run on e85? The gas is cheaper and you can really lean out the mixture for additional power.?

I call Bullsh!t on this..........

An EVO with exhaust , intake, and cams don't run 11.4's

You must have other mods you're not telling us about

It can be done and I have seen it with the driver mod included in a full weight evo using the stock 16g. Using E85 will obviously require larger injectors, larger flowing fuel pump, and some type of engine management or fuel controller at a bare minimum. The one I watched at the track had an AEM with launch control.

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n213/MurcielagoDago/td05h-16glarge-cfm.gif

Just do it!

I've beat an EVO off the line with really big and pretty stickers, and have had my ass handed to me by an STI with no wing or logos whatsoever. I've raced a Shelby GT500 and lost gracefully, but if you have doubts out the gate you'll beat yourself before he does. If he wins think of it as retribution for all the Civics Mustang GTs you've smoked knowing they did'nt have a chance. :)

some EVO drivers can launch though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKDJFsTjomQ&feature=channel

A guy from work has a stage 2 tune, and an intake on his evo- thats it. Last friday at the track running 1/4's he was beating the jeeps by .60+, and his reaction time was always worse than the jeep. **** he had a .8 vs the jeeps .3 reaction time and still whomped him. Ive yet to lose to an evo, but truth is it is faster if the driver is at all capable.