Is anyone else having issues with the rotors on the GCSRT8 getting grooves?
I was at the SRT Track Experience (great experience) and a SRT owner pointed out to me the grooves in my rotors on my GC.
When I got home from the track experience I had a ABS recall notice in the mail box, so I took the GC to the dealer to look into the ABS, the squealing brakes (3ed time) and the grooved rotors. The dealer said they would replace the pads to address the squeak but grooves in rotors are normal.

I know other SRT vehicles are getting rotors replaced. I called customer service, they sympathized with me but said they will follow the dealers advice but extend my warranty on the brakes to 3yr/36k miles. Nice but it is a pain to take the vehicle in every month to work on the same issue and be without a car for a day or two.

Has anyone else noticed grooves in their rotors? did you get them serviced? what did your dealer do?
Does anyone know to what extent grooving in a rotor is normal?

I have and have had many performance vehicles in my life, Lightning, 930, typhoon, z28, Camaro SS to name a few, none of the rotors grooved.

from talking with one of my friends that has owned a few cars that have Brembos from the factory and he says they had all squeaked. as for the grooving i dont think that is normal.

Grooving is from pads going metal on metal. Not normal and not covered under warranty.

Grooving is from pads going metal on metal. Not normal and not covered under warranty.Not in this case. The Jurid pads for the SRT8 are unusually aggressive and they cause rotor scoring in as little as 1,000 miles. (I know the pads say "Brembo" on the back, but if you peel off the shim, you'll see "Jurid" stamped into the backing plate. Brembo doesn't make pads.) A TSB was released stating that SRT8 rotors would be replaced under warranty with a new design (slotted) rotor to address this scoring issue. Unfortunately, the TSB was only applied to the Charger, Magnum, and 300C SRT8, even though the Jeep SRT8 suffers from the exact same problem.

Your options are to either keep pestering your dealer and hope enough complaints work their way back to HQ so that they'll finally issue a Jeep-specific TSB. Or you can switch to one of several different aftermarket pads, which will stop further rotor scoring, eliminate most of the brake dust, and typically run quieter than the stock pads.

from talking with one of my friends that has owned a few cars that have Brembos from the factory and he says they had all squeaked.They don't have to squeak. With the proper selection of brake pads and by following the bedding process described here(zeckhausen.com/bedding_in_brakes.htm), there's no reason a Brembo equipped car (SRT8, Volvo V70R, WRX STi, Aston Martin DB9, 350Z Track/G35 6-Speed, etc.) can't brake as quietly as a Honda Accord.

Not in this case. The Jurid pads for the SRT8 are unusually aggressive and they cause rotor scoring in as little as 1,000 miles. (I know the pads say "Brembo" on the back, but if you peel off the shim, you'll see "Jurid" stamped into the backing plate. Brembo doesn't make pads.) A TSB was released stating that SRT8 rotors would be replaced under warranty with a new design (slotted) rotor to address this scoring issue. Unfortunately, the TSB was only applied to the Charger, Magnum, and 300C SRT8, even though the Jeep SRT8 suffers from the exact same problem.

Your options are to either keep pestering your dealer and hope enough complaints work their way back to HQ so that they'll finally issue a Jeep-specific TSB. Or you can switch to one of several different aftermarket pads, which will stop further rotor scoring, eliminate most of the brake dust, and typically run quieter than the stock pads.
I didn't take grooving to be the same as scoring. I was thinking of a much deeper "trench".

I didn't take grooving to be the same as scoring. I was thinking of a much deeper "trench".I was sloppy with my choice of words. My SRT8 had several deep grooves in the rotors after less than 1,000 miles. This was in addition to the shallower grooves ("scoring") that made the surface of the rotors look like phonograph records. And it was all caused by those nasty OEM Jurid pads.

Is anyone else complaining? I have a customer service rep's direct number and the SRT customer reps number that I will be glad to post if people will start calling about the brake problem. I have always heard the squeaky wheel gets the attention, SORRY for my poor humor.

let me know if you want the number and names, I ready to start getting results instead of excuses.

Dave is the brake god he saved my scond pair of rotors, listen to him he knows his sh*t!

My next upgrade is a set of C-tek pads and those beautiful DiscItalia rotors. Then, RaceMesh!

My next upgrade is a set of C-tek pads and those beautiful DiscItalia rotors. Then, RaceMesh!The Centric Posi-Quiet pads have better bite, better pedal feel, and are less prone to squeal than the C-Teks, which come without any shims. C-Tek was first to market with a cure for the crazy dust and rotor scoring problems. But Centric introduced their better pad late last summer and that's what I've been recommending since then. Both are equally low-dust.

The Centric Posi-Quiet pads have better bite, better pedal feel, and are less prone to squeal than the C-Teks, which come without any shims. C-Tek was first to market with a cure for the crazy dust and rotor scoring problems. But Centric introduced their better pad late last summer and that's what I've been recommending since then. Both are equally low-dust.
Dave...I have your Centric Posi-Quiet withe the DiskItalia and love the combination. Very good feel and no fade even when 60mph-10mph 10 times to bed the pads in.

Question: what are the thin metal pieces for that go between the pad and the caliper?
Bill

Dave...I have your Centric Posi-Quiet withe the DiskItalia and love the combination. Very good feel and no fade even when 60mph-10mph 10 times to bed the pads in.

Question: what are the thin metal pieces for that go between the pad and the caliper?
BillBill,

Do you mean the stainless steel shim that's shown on the pad to the left?

http://www.zeckhausen.com/images/Pads/SRT8/C-Tek_pads-3.jpg

The factory Jurid pads have glued-on shims and, for the rear pads, there are also stainless steel clip-on shims. When using the C-Tek pads, which don't come with any shims at all, you should transplant both the glued-on shims and the clip-on shims to the new pads. However, the Centric Posi-Quiet pads have extremely effective composite shims already glued to them. There is no need to use the factory stainless steel clip-on shim with the Posi-Quiet pads.

It won't hurt anything if you've installed those steel shims with the Centric pads. But it won't help either. The key to keeping the Centric pads nose-free (as you've already discovered) is to bed them in properly. http://www.zeckhausen.com/bedding_in_brakes.htm

Bill,

Do you mean the stainless steel shim that's shown on the pad to the left?

http://www.zeckhausen.com/images/Pads/SRT8/C-Tek_pads-3.jpg

The factory Jurid pads have glued-on shims and, for the rear pads, there are also stainless steel clip-on shims. When using the C-Tek pads, which don't come with any shims at all, you should transplant both the glued-on shims and the clip-on shims to the new pads. However, the Centric Posi-Quiet pads have extremely effective composite shims already glued to them. There is no need to use the factory stainless steel clip-on shim with the Posi-Quiet pads.

It won't hurt anything if you've installed those steel shims with the Centric pads. But it won't help either. The key to keeping the Centric pads nose-free (as you've already discovered) is to bed them in properly. http://www.zeckhausen.com/bedding_in_brakes.htm
Perfect Dave, Thanks...great products!
Bill

Hey Dave, when's a group buy coming for those magic pads???. . . I smell a new supporting vendor!

Great news, the SRT customer service rep called today and said they will replace all rotors and pads.

Thread hijack!

Dave what pads for the Jeep SRT would you recommend for weekend autocross events and/or road track events?

Thanks,

Dave, you are a god. Thank you!

Dave, you are a god. Thank you!

Easy now, man, easy.......Don't know if I would go that far, but he is certainly the man to talk to regarding brakes (as well as many other things).

Have certainly learned a lot from him in his posts both here and on the M forums. Just ordered Centric Posi-quiets all the way around for mine today.

Can't wait.:D

Thread hijack!

Dave what pads for the Jeep SRT would you recommend for weekend autocross events and/or road track events?

Thanks,At this point in time, the pads with the best bite and the highest maximum operating temperature (MOT) are the factory pads. If I was going to take the Jeep SRT8 to the track, I would spend the 45 minutes swapping back to OEM for the track, then switch back to a low dust pad for the street.

For autocross, I would stick with the Centric Posi-Quiet pads. Autocross is simply not as demanding on brakes as an open-track day. Kinetic energy converted into heat by the brakes goes up with the square of the velocity. So, simply slowing the SRT8 Jeep from 120mph to 104mph (a 16mph drop) puts as much heat into the brakes as coming to a complete stop from 60mph. Now just imagine turn 1 at Summit Point, slowing from 135mph to 50mph for the right hand hairpin turn!

It would really be great if one of the world-class race pad manufacturers (Hawk, Performance Friction, Raybestos, Ferodo, or Pagid) would make some track pads for the SRT8. The Jeep, Magnum, 300C, and Charger SRT8 models all use the same brake pad shape. I just don't understand what's taking these guys so long!

Dave! I have a quick question:

I have the Centric Posi-Quiets that I bought from you, with my grooved factory rotors. I am putting the DiscItalia drilled/slotted rotors on my truck this week. Should I buy NEW Posi-Quiet pads from you to use with the NEW rotors? The currect factory rotors are grooved as previously mentioned in this thread. Or, will the Posi-Quiets shape themselves to the new drilled/slotted rotors?

Also, would it be safe to apply some of that copper paste to the backs of the posi-quiet pads to help reduce squeal? Will this have any negative effects?

I'm considering this copper paste in the tube.
http://www.goodspeedmotoring.com/?page=subcat&get_category=3&get_subcategory=Anti-Seize%20&PHPSESSID=6622bcaeadaf6ff5d557e5a23b4...

I have the Centric Posi-Quiets that I bought from you, with my grooved factory rotors. I am putting the DiscItalia drilled/slotted rotors on my truck this week. Should I buy NEW Posi-Quiet pads from you to use with the NEW rotors? The currect factory rotors are grooved as previously mentioned in this thread. Or, will the Posi-Quiets shape themselves to the new drilled/slotted rotors? If the pads still have plenty of "meat" left on them, there's no reason to buy new pads. After a week or two of normal driving, the old pads will conform to the new rotors. You should either delay your initial bedding session for a couple weeks, to ensure the pads and rotors are completely mated in order to achieve an even transfer layer. Or you can bed the brakes after installation, then bed them a second time, two weeks later. It's possible you will hear some squealing under light braking, particularly from the rear calipers, until your second bedding session.

Also, would it be safe to apply some of that copper paste to the backs of the posi-quiet pads to help reduce squeal? Will this have any negative effects?Sure - no problem. Just don't get any on the friction surfaces of the pads or on the rotors! ;)

34z28:

Would you be willing to post the rep's number you are dealing/dealt with?

I have dealt w/ a SRT rep named Mike Ferrel and I can't get a call back.

I guess I will have to push the "UP-Button" in the near future to get some results :mad:

Send me the number quick. I am having the exact same issue and getting the run around with the dealer and DaimlerChrysler!!!! Thanks!

Is anyone else complaining? I have a customer service rep's direct number and the SRT customer reps number that I will be glad to post if people will start calling about the brake problem. I have always heard the squeaky wheel gets the attention, SORRY for my poor humor.

let me know if you want the number and names, I ready to start getting results instead of excuses.

So basically I have run into the same problem with Squeeling brakes. I took the GCSRT8 to my local dealer. There going to replace the rotors, and pads. They had to order them, so.... well wait and see. :confused: