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: EBC Rotor Bedding Vs. Opposite of Pad Bedding


jhriss
06-18-2009, 07:59 PM
Ok, so here is the thing.

The bedding process instructions and warnings on my new EBC Slotted Dimpled Black Zinc coated Rotors say one thing that completely contradicts that of the written instructions and warning of my Hawk HPS pads.

Hawk Pads say to go out and do like 4 30mph to 5mph stops, never stop obviously to avoid imprinting the pad to the rotor, then do 60 to 30 3 times, then do 60 to 5 2 times and then some 80 to 10 and smoke is fine, and then drive to cool them for 5 min, do it again, repeat, done!


Ok, the EBC rotors say to avoid all hard braking for up to 300 miles!!!!! It says do not do any hard braking or seating or bedding, which is the opposite of what the HPS pads say.


What the heck do I do? Go smash the brakes like Hawk says? or drive like a freaking Grandma Moses for a couple weeks, I don't drive that much, I work at home most the time. Or do I just drive like normal like I never had new brakes put on.

cmn1
06-18-2009, 08:25 PM
I would follow EBCs recommendation and then bed them after. I just wouldn't wait 300 miles maybe 150.

jhriss
06-18-2009, 08:36 PM
Yeah, but what to go off of? I thought it was the pads that you are suppose to follow the instructions on, as they are the item that needs to be bedded in to glaze the surface of the rotor with the pad material. If not, then there is like barely any braking power. I have never heard of a rotor needing brake in time. I guess I'll just take it easy on them for a bit, do normal braking and drive as I do, and then do some hard core bedding in a couple weeks.

Muellge
06-18-2009, 09:10 PM
Do what the pads say, especially if you get some noise from them.

jhriss
06-18-2009, 09:20 PM
That is what I thought. I have read all over, time and time again, about pad bedding, and now I see some pads say to do no hard braking for 300 miles, but on the rotors, I have not seen. Usually it is all based off the pads!

pnut
06-19-2009, 12:22 PM
Go with what the EBC says first, then after 300 miles, do what Hawk says. I think the reason for EBC's instructions is to properly wear off the black coating. The coating is there to protect parts that aren't contacted by the pads (dimples, slots, and hubs). Once that coating is worn off all of the contacting surfaces, then you can properly break in the pads. With high performance brake parts, sometimes it's necessary to season the disks too. You have to get them up to a certain critical temp to heat treat them and get all metals grain structure in line. The bedding process with the pads helps seats the pads to the disks.

cmn1
06-19-2009, 03:44 PM
Go with what the EBC says first, then after 300 miles, do what Hawk says. I think the reason for EBC's instructions is to properly wear off the black coating. The coating is there to protect parts that aren't contacted by the pads (dimples, slots, and hubs). Once that coating is worn off all of the contacting surfaces, then you can properly break in the pads. With high performance brake parts, sometimes it's necessary to season the disks too. You have to get them up to a certain critical temp to heat treat them and get all metals grain structure in line. The bedding process with the pads helps seats the pads to the disks.

I'm with you. Jason , throw up some pics of those rotors. When my R1s die, I think these are going to be next.

jhriss
06-19-2009, 09:31 PM
Uh, yeah this set up freaking rocks. Hawk HPS in front, Hawk Ceramics in Back, EBC slotted dimpled black zinc, so super sexy, and they are great, no dust, quiet as moth flying, and good stopping.