: Void Warranty?
jps043 06-17-2009, 07:48 AM Ok so I'm sure there has already been a thread like this created in the past, but I didn't see it so I thought I would create "another/new one." Does anyone on here know specifically what modifications will void the warranty on our vehicles? The reason I am asking is because I want to do as much to my jeep as possible without voiding the warranty. Thanks.
wssexorz 06-17-2009, 07:50 AM vortech won't void your warranty :umm:
jps043 06-17-2009, 07:54 AM I assume your regarding the supercharger, hopefully that will come in due time :)
BlackJeepSRT 06-17-2009, 07:56 AM You'll be good with bolt ons. But it really depends on your dealer. They can technically void your warranty on a Mopar CAI and Mopar Exhaust unless it came from the factory or was installed by the dealer. Most won't be petty enough to bother with that. Headers would be a fine line. Just be careful if something down the road happens, they could place the blame on them. Sure, they 'have' to explain it, but are you really going to get a lawyer over it? Probably not. As far as a tune - that is an easy void since your changing parameters, shift points, strain on engine and transmission, and PCM/ECM related. Just swap out the tune before you go to the dealer, and you'll be fine. But be warned that if you have headers on, you might throw a code anyway.
Good luck. :p
jps043 06-17-2009, 08:00 AM Ok lol, so no headers, but still possibly a tune hmmmm....
CentralTexHemi 06-17-2009, 08:23 AM Actually the dealer can only void your warranty if THEY can prove that your aftermarket modification was the sole or contributory reason to why your having a problem with your Jeep. A cold air intake of any brand is not going to cause your struts to leak or your IGIG to go haywire. Lontube headers are not going to cause your transfer case to go out, etc, etc you guys see where I am going with this. I have more than once taken a copy of this with me to a service manager and their attitude changed quickly and the fact that you are a phone call away from complaining to the Federal Trade Comission really gets their attention and for your backup read this:
http://www.sportrider.com/features/146_0404_magnuson_moss_warranty_act/index.html
Rambit 06-17-2009, 08:53 AM Actually the dealer can only void your warranty if THEY can prove that your aftermarket modification was the sole or contributory reason to why your having a problem with your Jeep. A cold air intake of any brand is not going to cause your struts to leak or your IGIG to go haywire. Lontube headers are not going to cause your transfer case to go out, etc, etc you guys see where I am going with this. I have more than once taken a copy of this with me to a service manager and their attitude changed quickly and the fact that you are a phone call away from complaining to the Federal Trade Comission really gets their attention and for your backup read this:
http://www.sportrider.com/features/146_0404_magnuson_moss_warranty_act/index.html
Actually they only have to prove it when it goes to court. Any dealer can tell you your warranty is void, some are worse than others and you're stuck. Your choices are to bite the bullet and accept that or go to court and have them prove it. I guess it all depends on how deep your pockets are compared to those of the corporate lawyers. I can't think of one example of anyone on any forum I'm a member of who's ever persued this. Lot's of talk for sure though.
I guess it's a matter of finding a dealer who's more mod friendly and they apparently do exist. Mine will void brake and suspension warranty claims just for larger wheels. All parts are designed with a 100,000 mile service life, but the thought is by introducing something that adds extra strain on these parts which could shorten their serviceability is where they're coming from.
Bernie
BlackJeepSRT 06-17-2009, 08:54 AM ^+1! Good point.
CentralTexHemi 06-17-2009, 09:00 AM Actually they only have to prove it when it goes to court. Any dealer can tell you your warranty is void, some are worse than others and you're stuck. Your choices are to bite the bullet and accept that or go to court and have them prove it. I guess it all depends on how deep your pockets are compared to those of the corporate lawyers. I can't think of one example of anyone on any forum I'm a member of who's ever persued this. Lot's of talk for sure though.
I guess it's a matter of finding a dealer who's more mod friendly and they apparently do exist. Mine will void brake and suspension warranty claims just for larger wheels. All parts are designed with a 100,000 mile service life, but the thought is by introducing something that adds extra strain on these parts which could shorten their serviceability is where they're coming from.
Bernie
That might be true for some dealers who stand their ground but it has never happened to me here in the states or on the ocassions that they tired to void my warranty for my BWoody and told me my leaking strut was not going to be covered under warranty. It all comes down to your relationship with the service dept. If you open and honest and stay cool most times they will work with you even if you have to educate them on the particulars. If your dishonest and they find out then at that point I feel they have the right to refuse warranty work. My jeep has been at D/C/J for 2 weeks but I was quick to point out I have the Builder Bill Stage 2 valve body in the jeep, would they have ever know probably not, did they try to blame that on my bad rear end of course they did, did I have to provide service records showing when it was installed and that this problem existed before that yes I did so what has happened over the 2 weeks was that the service manager and I were feeling each other out and making sure one was not trying to screw the other now that dance is over we have been able to move forward to actually fix my jeep and no going to court.
Rambit 06-17-2009, 09:18 AM Sounds like you have a great dealer. For sure I'd be sticking with them.
Bernie
jps043 06-17-2009, 11:55 AM Dang, guess I need to be getting tight with my dealer so that I can avoid situations of voiding my warranty :eek:
CentralTexHemi 06-17-2009, 12:06 PM I've found being patient and truthful is the way to go, heck my last service manager I would take to the track with me just out of the blue asked him one day and he was like sure why not. Now there are those service managers who have no business being one and in some cases have no clue about our jeeps and in those cases just move on to another dealer. Obviously if you have a tune return it to stock, but other mods simply divulge those and keep good records of when and where they were installed in my case I have my stage 2 valve body installed by Dodge so they had in their records when the service was done and there were notes about the issues before the install. Reasoning with them helps and not being over arrogant at the fact you may know more about the jeep than they do. It is obvious I have had the same issues for a long time so neither my CAI, Borla S or Stage 2 valve body were the cause but it took some time to get him to understand that and now he feels comfortable about working with me and not being played like a fool after all the work is done. Admitting if one of your mods caused a problem and you will pay for it out of pocket says to the service manager that your not there to get one over on them but you really want your jeep fixed and in an honest manner.
jps043 06-17-2009, 12:21 PM I've found being patient and truthful is the way to go, heck my last service manager I would take to the track with me just out of the blue asked him one day and he was like sure why not. Now there are those service managers who have no business being one and in some cases have no clue about our jeeps and in those cases just move on to another dealer. Obviously if you have a tune return it to stock, but other mods simply divulge those and keep good records of when and where they were installed in my case I have my stage 2 valve body installed by Dodge so they had in their records when the service was done and there were notes about the issues before the install. Reasoning with them helps and not being over arrogant at the fact you may know more about the jeep than they do. It is obvious I have had the same issues for a long time so neither my CAI, Borla S or Stage 2 valve body were the cause but it took some time to get him to understand that and now he feels comfortable about working with me and not being played like a fool after all the work is done. Admitting if one of your mods caused a problem and you will pay for it out of pocket says to the service manager that your not there to get one over on them but you really want your jeep fixed and in an honest manner.
Honesty is key...I will keep this in mind, thanks a lot!
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