From my knowledge here are the difference of the TWO kits (satin)

An extra $1,465 gives you the following (complete kit):

-Fuel management upgrade includes high-flow fuel injectors, 2 bar Map sensor, fuel pump voltage booster assembly and DiabloSport Predator

-Complete bolt-on system including all necessary belts, pulleys and reusable high-flow air filter

Do these extra components justify a $1,500 price difference? Just curious.

Its a shame the value of the complete kit wasn't what the tuner kit is. Obvious vortech knows better than anyone about balancing out the supply and demand for this unit, but its hard for me to think vortech wouldn't increase revenue 2 fold if they sold their kits for 1500 less. At this price I think the demand would sky rocket.

I am sure the price difference b/t the two benefits the consumer, but than again, maybe they are factoring in not just the extra cost of components but the time the consumer would save instead of shopping for these necessary parts themselves. One thing I do know is if you already have a predator you are 300-400 ahead of the game which justifies it even more for you to go the TUNER KIT route over the COMPLETE KIT route.

Could any motor head members quickly break down the prices of the extra parts necessary to turn the TUNER KIT into a COMPLETE kit on your own? If so let it rip :) I am going to try and break it down myself but I'm not that knowledgeable about 2 bar map sensors etc, since basically ive never heard of a 2 bar map sensor before :)

Thanks guys>>>!!

UPDATE

- High-flow fuel injectors - A little vague IMO.. are they referring to 42lb injectors? If they are think we are talking about $600 bucks, but again, high flow doesn't necessarily mean that
- 2 Bar Map sensor, $49.95
- Predator $375 (but like i said, most people have one so why get another one?)
- Fuel pump voltage booster assembly - $250
- All necessary belts - $50 (guesstimate)
- Pulleys - $250 estimate (correct me if I am wrong)
- Air Filter - $50

From what I see if you already have a predator it will cost you about 1250 extra if you go with a TUNER KIT...

Therefore, if my injector price is about right, its best to go with the COMPLETE KIT and if you already have a predator you can just sell the new one you receive

I think it's about rite

The Injectors are exspensive as well as the Predator is too

I think it's about rite

The Injectors are exspensive as well as the Predator is too

And tune and I thought something with fuel system too, not sure!

well the tune you gotta get with either kit... and the predator is expensive but like i stated if you already have one the COMPLETE KIT may not be necessary.. but in the end after I looked into it further the complete kit i think is the best bet

well the tune you gotta get with either kit... and the predator is expensive but like i stated if you already have one the COMPLETE KIT may not be necessary.. but in the end after I looked into it further the complete kit i think is the best bet

Well you just mapped it out and it looked like $1250ish right? So for them its only $1500, just another $250 profit they would pull in based upon what it would cost the consumer otherwise. This seems fair in that they need to make profit, its all margins anyway so in this case, as you said, they may make more if they sell the complete kit for the tuner kit price but who knows what it costs them and many other #'s. You can trust the guys over there in the financial department are doing their job as Vortech is the real deal, legit business haha, not some random performance shop with motor heads crunching numbers lol. Anyway, the fact that its another $250 extra to know that the kit works and also they save you the time of having to find and optimal package and then having it put together seamlessly. Their package just works so again, Id say their complete component price is very fair and reasonable, I'd be comfortable paying it all day ;) Just my .02

...if you already have a predator you can just sell the new one you receive

I called a vendor about the two kits a few days ago and they mentioned that if you already have the predator, Vortech will take a couple hundred dollars off of the price of the complete kit and still give you their canned tune to load into your predator.

I called a vendor about the two kits a few days ago and they mentioned that if you already have the predator, Vortech will take a couple hundred dollars off of the price of the complete kit and still give you their canned tune to load into your predator.

Now THAT is good info...:bigthumb:

with a vortech v-3 kit on my 2010 sr8, with borla s, kooks long tube headers and a predator tune what kind of results should i be seeing with 0-60mph times and 1/4 mile?

You have awaken the dead LOL .... To answer you question , high 3 seconds is my guess . I ran 2.86 seconds 0-60 with the V2 Vortech Kit , and those are accurate numbers pulled from my actual Log , but i have more supporting Mods .

with a vortech v-3 kit on my 2010 sr8, with borla s, kooks long tube headers and a predator tune what kind of results should i be seeing with 0-60mph times and 1/4 mile?

You should be in the high 11 second range

Thanks heaps :) , because theres so many different results. im really probably looking at mid to early 3's for 0-60. so any suggestions on what i could buy to acomplish that result? :D

chuck jr drop me a line buddy , 95538668 come down see me. 94-100 queen victoria st bexley

knuckles is spot on with his times mid to high 11's it really depends on the tune up the boost the fuel the tyres the track the day ,,, it all comes together on the day ... look at m4X he ran a 10,, speak to him he knows the setups very well.. slightly different blower spec but throw a cam and headers , a good fuel system and its all there,, m4x's truck is one slick peice or vortech gear man check out his pics, ( if i chose to stay vortech id offer to buy a copy of his recipe on paper and start cloning,) but for me , to become a m4x clone, but i need headers, cam , springs, injectors etc etc, between that sum and blower kit (landed in aussie) i can go turbo for a bit extra ,,, so this is what i chose , to run less TOTAL boost but for a broarder power band and acheive faster times, while keeping headers cats springs and cam... see once turbos switch on the gate regulates boost so you can have 6psi for egsample by 3000rpms all the way till 6400 where blower, if you wanna run 6psi at 6400 youd probably only be running 2.8 psi at 3000rpm and it climbs with every revolution the engine increases... look at the jap ricer mobiles,, 2-3 litre engines factory running 12 second passes, still at 1500-1700kilos,, not bad ,,

i ran with v3setup 11.6 at 115 116 mph on stock tyres 245 45 20 almost 20 runs,, put down about 510rwhp..
since then i have done wavetrac diff , shr tranny 3200 (CHIRPS SECOND GEAR LOL) stall converter mtcm and ran a best of still of 11.6 but at 117 mph
0-60 is a reliable 3.4- 3.5 with a best of 3.30
thats with std exhaust system , removed centre muffler. STILL HAS std cats std headers STD PIPES.
i am selling my vortech v3 kit if your interested its no more than 4 months old, if your not gonna go big tranny or do a fuel system i dare say the v3 is as far as you would reliably go , but the wavetrac is the best single mod i ever did.. the blower is the ultimate single mod i did.

mods on mine so far,,,
vortech v3 ....(soon tt creation)
ported intake by me (picked up 18rwkw) from 252rwkw-270rwkw NA
6 percent od balancer ------did nothing lol
deleted centre muffler] -----made it sound meatier
wavetrac ------no more lame take offs and esp blinking
trinity -----best donkey kong game around
shr trannny -----get a neck brace
3200 converter -------mmmm untill i get traction i cant comment lol
sfi flexplate and bolts ------- because i like my feet attached to my ankles
mopar tcm ------- its a must to rev the ass out of her
murdered out badges and wheels ----cuz it looks better.

definately enough to suprise ANY r32 r33 r34 r35 evo 1-10 sti's . even on the street,,,,
they quote spectacular times to sell em , but you never get those times on the street in real life , its done buy a pro , on a track after 200 practice sessions,,

JEEP IS KING.. add a blower = undisputed king ..
in 4 months i have been very ****y ,, c63 amg e63 amg , wrxs , gtr;s even a gsxr 750 didnt know what happened to the first 100m of that day they met me,,
by then its a red light and the class is over
on the street is a verrry different kettle of fish , i dare say the jeep does whatever it does on the track to what it does on the street ,, it burns 4 wheels for a split second then launches, these other cars are fighting traction or toque steering, or missing gear changes or blah blah ,, and you need to do in mash the pedal.

cheers
( i hope this puts some fire in ya belly to do something drastic !!!!!!!!!)

Thanks heaps aussy,
im so keen on modding my jeep but the twin turbosalso sound amazing for the beast, how much horspower will those twin turbo make for your beast? Have to go out to wsid when we have the cars done show people what jeeps are made of. Besides how much would you want for the v-3 system :)

hey bud
well look im currently pushing my setup to 509 rwhp with std bolt on v3 s2 system , stock pulleys , stock setup , as said a few times b4, it has run a best of 11.6@ 117mph its a awsome spectacle at the track im actually getting tired of telling people what i have done ,, minimum of 20 people a night come asking about it... i am selling it yes, because im taking the tt plunge because im building a big engine soon , but im only chasing tens for now,, i want to get kicked out on a std engine, dont think its easy, i have a built tranny to put up with constant bashing you need to go through for testing , i have put in a lsd centre, i have bought US spec wheels ( ours are anorexic)

so as for running tens , if your stock at the moment , be prepared , for big bucks in supporting mods, there is no point in running a 10 then exploding. thinking you should of or would of..
pm me ill run through a costing for my v3 ill do it cheap man , and turnaround time for install , if you want i can have it installed by new years,

BUT.. if you want a rolls royce kit that has ALOT of room to grow when supporting mods permit. then definately let me organise a tt kit for ya ,( i know a good place) :)

allow 5-6 weeks turnaround for delivery ( junior permitting ) lol

Cheers man,
yeah what kind of engine r u going to put in??

Hey junior,
Love your video of the 30mph pull man absolutlly amazing ;)

Cheers man,
yeah what kind of engine r u going to put in??

my own custom setup.. details will be kept underwraps untill unveiling,
no secrecy intended , but i dont like running my mouth before i can bark ,

Completly understood man,
I will definantly drop by your shop sometime :)