"which srt8? the jeep hands down slow. the charger i think i can take it. the 300 srt i dont know about, i think its quicker"

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-cts-v-series-forum/84622-charger-srt-8-a.html

Yea, amazing... How much is their CAR? And non of them have raced a Jeep from a dig. I am sure they are fast but this Jeep deserves all the respect in the world. Most of our Jeeps with small bolt ons are in the mid to high 12's impressive!

Yeah, well for the money they shell out they want to feel they got their moneys worth. Fact is, it's still a GM product. http://forums.offtopic.com/images/smilies/greddy.gif

Oh and BTW: I destroyed a CTS-V (stock I assume) in my VW GTI (modded of course). In the end, it's all relative. There is always something faster/cheaper/more expensive.

I absolutely love those things. I have no idea if I'm faster or not, but I sure dig them.

I absolutely love those things. I have no idea if I'm faster or not, but I sure dig them.

They're powerful and handle decently, and available with a MT.

Alex

We are all proud of what we drive. But "they" are clearly ignorant on their facts. The Jeep slow? Ahem, I don't think so fockers. They even think the 300CSRT8 is faster than the Charger SRT8. Wrong again. Whatever.....

Yeah - I just thought it was interest what tough critics those guys are. I mean come on - who doesn't respect an SUV that can move like ours??? I love that they even have to try so hard to defend their cars against a grand cherokee!

I believe they are geared quite low stock compared to the LX's 3.06? What are the '07 CTS-V's times?

Yeah - I just thought it was interest what tough critics those guys are. I mean come on - who doesn't respect an SUV that can move like ours??? I love that they even have to try so hard to defend their cars against a grand cherokee!

That's awesome. I would never dismiss anything that hauls ass.:cool:

Guys, I just traded my CTS-V for an SRT8. The Caddy was a bit faster, I think the quarter was in the high 12's stock. Great car, perfect handling (like an M3 or better). V's are about $50K new.

It's apples to oranges. The SRT8 is a killer sport/ute, the CTS-V is basically a 4 door vette.

Yeah - I just thought it was interest what tough critics those guys are. I mean come on - who doesn't respect an SUV that can move like ours??? I love that they even have to try so hard to defend their cars against a grand cherokee!


Thats what I love about this truck!!

When I hear people say I pulled on him by a car or yea I only lost by a half car but then I pulled on him on the high end blah blah blah

They you realize these guys have either Z05, Z06's or some other sports car and there trying to defend that they just got there asses HANDED TO YOU BY AN SUV!!!!! I LOVE IT!!!!!!

And BTW ive spanked more BMW's and there owners then I can count anymore M3 stands for MAULED X 3!

12.5 on an naturally aspirated motor w/ bolt ons and NO TUNE. LS this LS that but my Bi*ch moves.

I've driven a CTS-V and the wheel-hop on take-off could have dislodged fillings, if I had any. I would never recommend one to anyone.

Cadillacforums.com is one of the most cluttered and disorganized message board sites I have ever seen, I sure hope other sites like ours here do not follow suit. Advertising is everywhere, on the tops of pages, bottoms, sides, flashing ads, how distracting. Nothing is more annoying than in-your-face flashing/moving advertising on a web page. Very little room is left for the message board section. How sad.

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And BTW ive spanked more BMW's and there owners then I can count anymore M3 stands for MAULED X 3!

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Come look me up when ever you're in Chicago. I know of an M3 that can run with ya.

Come look me up when ever you're in Chicago. I know of an M3 that can run with ya.


I dont doubt there is, im not naive enough to think I can beat all M3's or any sports cars for thet matter. I may not beat you but from a dig light to light your mine :D

And after having a 2007 Vette watch my ass for 3/4 of a 1/4 mile at ATCO, I think I have a little room to brag. I mean even though at the 1/8 mile marker he passed me like I was standing still you know the driver was thinking WTF is in that truck for 1/8 of a mile! He ran 11.9 @ 126 mph and I ran 12.5 @ 108 mph.

But see this is what I man about this truck, people say I have this or that that can keep up or outrun you. Im sure you do but I am in an SUV!!! I LOVE THIS TRUCK!!

I have to agree with Inferno - I've raced several people that have said there is nothing more frustrating to get smoked and have to watch my tv in the back as I pull away from a dig!! I mean come on - what other cars you gonna race against where people are gonna say that??? Sure, I know there are a few (Turbo S, ML, etc.) but you get to have two SRT8s for the price of those cars. Sorry, I just cannot stop grinning every time I drive my car.

I love destroying cars on the way home from Home Depot with 4 50lb bags of mulch, fertilizer, and assorted yard items in the back and my GF in the passenger seat.

:) AWESOME!

I love destroying cars on the way home from Home Depot with 4 50lb bags of mulch, fertilizer, and assorted yard items in the back and my GF in the passenger seat.

:) AWESOME!

When I get my SRT8, it will not lag around feritizer...

When I get my SRT8, it will not lag around feritizer...


Uhh ok, good for you? http://forums.offtopic.com/images/smilies/ugh.gif

I live near Capitol Cadillac and raced and drove several CTS-V's and me being an owner of an XLR I know first hand!!! My Jeep will kill the CTS-V from a dig of course and unless you are modded and I usually hold them off...I've only had one instance where I ran into a supercharged one and he pulled me after 60 pretty strongly and by 100 he had a good 6-7 cars on me...that is why I ordered the heads from DR and Stall that night...the guy was a prick!!! I say give them all you got cause most of them can't drive!!!

They you realize these guys have either Z05, Z06's or some other sports car and there trying to defend that they just got there asses HANDED TO YOU BY AN SUV!!!!! I LOVE IT!!!!!!


What is a Z05?

I don't think many Z06 owners are gonna get spanked by any SUV.

What is a Z05?

A Z06 with a misfire?

Alex

What is a Z05?

I don't think many Z06 owners are gonna get spanked by any SUV.

Typo I meant C05, and Im not saying I can spank any vette, but from light to light I will.

I Have A Cadillac Cts-v And A Srt 8. Both Are Unique And Good In Their Own Ways

Typo I meant C05, and Im not saying I can spank any vette, but from light to light I will.

You meant C5, no zero. ;)

I sold my 2004 cts-v a few months ago... i bought my jeep a few weeks ago. both amazing. i do think people should give the ctsv more credit. mine had several bolt ons and it was faster than my jeep... the handling is superb. it has been said a few time but apples to oranges... i love the jeep, but the ctsv is also one of the bigger factory sleepers on the road...

Great car, perfect handling (like an M3 or better

I really disagree. I own an '01 M3 and test drove several CTS-Vs and the wheel hop on the Caddy is terrible. Also, they simply don't feel the road the way the M3 does and you can't drive it nose-first.

I will say it is a big engine and on a dragstrip it is king. But the very few CTS-Vs I have seen on tracks are usually get lapped by M3s; simply because we can get M3s through the corners better than the Caddys. No doubt with some work the Caddy will perform but if I wanted to spend $70K I would have bought a Viper with no traction control.

I would take the 300 SRT-8 over the Caddy CTS-V.

Typo I meant C05, and Im not saying I can spank any vette, but from light to light I will.

So what do you do when the race is longer than 100 ft. :cool:

there is a show in i believe euope called top gear. in that show an e46 m3 races a b6 s4 on a track. the m3 loses. then on another episode a ctsv races a b6 s4 and the ctsv wins... i think if you are able to find these episodes you will agree with me the ctsv will out perform the s4 and m3 hands down. the m3 may absolutely have a better feel in and out of turns... german cars in general do, however that doesnt make it a faster quartermile or track car, because its not.

I love destroying cars on the way home from Home Depot with 4 50lb bags of mulch, fertilizer, and assorted yard items in the back and my GF in the passenger seat.

:) AWESOME!

Or even better, destroying cars with your new 5.5 hp 2 stage snowblower in the back you just picked up from Lowes!!!

Niiicccceeeee.......I like.

I love benchracing!!

I would take the 300 SRT-8 over the Caddy CTS-V.
Me too, seems like common sense. :)

I Have A Cadillac Cts-v And A Srt 8. Both Are Unique And Good In Their Own Ways


Yeah but yours is NOT NORMAL! lol But I LOVE it. You did it right. :D

my brother has a 06 cts-v, and he cant touch me from a dead stop,Im a good 3 or 4 cars in front... from a 20mph roll we are neck and neck,hes a nose ahead till he shifts then I catch up, and so on, on the highway, its all him though, got me by a good car's leanth. plus the jeep just looks so much more impressive, his caddy doesnt even get a second look by most people.

and your right on the money about the wheel hop, poor design to be sure, even with brand new meats, it cant hold the road.

I really disagree. I own an '01 M3 and test drove several CTS-Vs and the wheel hop on the Caddy is terrible. Also, they simply don't feel the road the way the M3 does and you can't drive it nose-first.

I will say it is a big engine and on a dragstrip it is king. But the very few CTS-Vs I have seen on tracks are usually get lapped by M3s; simply because we can get M3s through the corners better than the Caddys.

The wheelhop in CTS-V is truly horrendous. But that really only shows itself when you are trying to do burnouts and maybe around real slow corners in the wet. If there is any lateral force, like in a corner, the car will usually not hop.

I had a 98 M3 and I found the CTS-V to be a better cornering, better stopping car. The V, on the factory tires, could easily pull over 1g on the in-car meter and it stopped better than any other car I've had.

It's all a matter of preference. At any rate both the Jeep and the V are both great performers, similar in outright speed, and at the top of their respective classes. Plus, they are both relatively cheap given the vehicles they compete against. I think we're gonna see a lot of cross-ownership with V people...I would guess the same is true for V people going to other SRT8 vehicles in the line.

well said.

I have had my fair share of issues with my 04 CTS-V, but I love it to death. And you are insane if you think most people don't drool on themselves when I am sitting at a light next to them ;)

With that said, I am hoping to be the proud owner of a Jeep SRT8 ASAP. I test drove it a few weeks back and it blew my mind.

So what do you do when the race is longer than 100 ft. :cool:


Considering the last time I was at the track the only car I lost to was a Vette, ide say after 100' im still doing pretty good.

I was running 12.5, and 12.6's all day.

Don't get me wrong, I respect the CTS-V for what it represents, but I think it could have been done better. I give it an 8.5/10.

i also had problems... 2 rear ends in 30kmi... it had a number of bolt ons, however i thought it should have held up better only have 80hp over stock. the rear end is about half the size of a corvettes, but ithas the same motor? i will post a video of my on black 20's doing dounuts if the admins ever get back to me on how to work this site... with rims and exhaust alone the ctsv wont just turn heads it will break necks when you hear and see a 4 door CADILLAC burn rubber shifting into 3rd gear.

Yeah but yours is NOT NORMAL! lol But I LOVE it. You did it right. :D


LOL Thanks

So I have this thing going with a guy at work who ownes a CTS-V. Kind of like what Boost had with his Ford guy. We raced last fall and was able to get a 13.3 bone stock and he ran 14.3 bone stock. Since then I have added a few goodies, but he was shocked by the beating he has since made some investments. Just curious how these will pay off. He has added a cam, headers, Magnaflow cat back, and a custom tune. He also had a kit installed to eliminate the famous wheel hop. Just curious if I should start making my T-shirt for the spring or is he going to be faster. I have the same goodies as Tony (Inferno) less the tune. I have the Diablo instead. Anyone know how quick the CTS-V's are modded?

Like one guy said apples to oranges. I sold a 730HP 2000 C5 Vert (ahhh memories :)) about 4 years back and I can say that on the street I have much more fun in my Jeep. 2 wheel drive cars with over 400+ HP just smoke the tires on normal roads between most street lights. Having high HP 2 wheel drive cars on the road are just plain useless and dangerous over 100mph anyway. Now on the track with E/T Streets you can't beat them, but for everyday driving on the street, the JEEP IS VERY IMPRESSIVE AND A SUPRISE TO MOST PEOPLE WHICH MAKES IT THAT MUCH MORE ENJOYABLE!

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I'm didn't read all the posts on this thread but I'm an avid motorhead and have driven many many high performance machines. I'm quite impressed with the Jeep for what it is out of the factory. yea, it has some quirks but please tell me..........what car doesn't??? Don't get me wrong my CTS-V was awesome plus I modded it to 500 RWhp which is very easy to do. Kook Jr. who I know well along with the rest of the Kooks had his V running close to 600 RWhp. So considering a modded V against a lightly modded Jeep. The Jeep won't win. We have to compare apples to apples anyway. As far as the other guy saying about his rear being replaced. Well, thats the weak link in the V's but an added note. I never replaced my rear nor did Kook Jr. we both sold our cars with the stock rears and all that extra HP. My conclusion to that fact is: if you know the rear sucks, then don't dump your clutch!! Gm's biggest problem with that car and they knew it going out of the gate but they installed them anyway. What idiots!!!

Paul:cool:

**** it lets all go caddy hunting this week ,theres an abundance of those at least where im at not like the cherokees lets just scalp a few old farts in caddys.................j/j nice cars but not practical for me.

I think they need to do some research before talking about the JEEP...

Guys, I just traded my CTS-V for an SRT8. The Caddy was a bit faster, I think the quarter was in the high 12's stock. Great car, perfect handling (like an M3 or better). V's are about $50K new.

It's apples to oranges. The SRT8 is a killer sport/ute, the CTS-V is basically a 4 door vette.


I disagree, I have an 05 CTS-V with Corsa and my new (stock) 08 SRT-8 GC is faster, certainly from a stand still. From a roll perhaps not but I'd be money my SRT would take my V in the 1/4 mile. Plus, the V is a POS car, pure and utter GM junk. The amount of problems with that $53K car is laughable....or rather embarrasing. I would never buy another.

I have an 05 CTS-V and an 08 SRT-8 GC. Yes, they are different but the V is such a piece of crap. In my 12 months of ownership the following have needed attention (drove it 17k)
- new nave unit
- pealing paint on radio knobs
- center consel broke
- all 4 wheels started pitting at 10K
- in dealer 3 times for drive line slop (that's normal....F you it is).
- Steering pump whine
- warped rotors (front)
- exhaust rattle that they can't find (grrrr)
- etc, etc, etc.

I'ts a nice car to drive but it's far from a BMW, Audi or even Saab. The GM heritage always seems to poke it's ugly head from time to time and the dealer is just OK. That particular cadillac forum is a mess too. Most of the guys are the look at me, I'm the best, I took an F-430 last night blah, blah, blah types.

I really love my new Jeep SRT-8.. Black stock and fast with room for 3 boys and all of their LAX equiptment.
However, I am sure that my modded CTS-V does not hop and will smash this thing on the track or highway while providing a higher 'fun quotient'. (I have replace the diff twice although and transmission fixed twice)
I look forward to joining you all in Mod heaven with the Jeep very soon.

Welcome to the forums and congrats on the beast...she is fun to mod! Keep us posted and post up pics when you can!

I owned a '98 T/A WS6 that was moderately "improved", but still NA. LS2 intake, headers, SLP exhaust, tune, all new adjustable suspension (brakes, etc.). This car chassis dynoed in Springfield, VA at 381 HP. Not bad, but she had nasty torque. It was really a fun car that would eat C5's all day and twice on Sundays. Anyway...

This Caddy pulled behind me at a light near my house one evening and was giving me the usual "look at me" nonsense. It was a V, but I had NO idea what that was at the time. I had NO IDEA what it was packin' nevermind it was AWD!

Of course he launches like a ***** and immediately takes 1.5 -2 lengths. I pulled within 1 before we had to back off but NEVER caught him. It was an impressive car, no doubt. I went home, told the wife I got smoked by a Caddy and made myself mad enough that I got back in the car and went down the street to the local dealer (who sold him that car) and asked them what it was and all the dude said was "how bad did he beat you?" It was a sleeper no doubt. I kind of like the more subtle changes they made. But the SRT8, IMO, is hands down a bad-ass machine. I've never seen a vehicle THAT will dig like they do. I will own one soon enough.:D

The guy that said that the jeep was slow abviously didnt do his home work. If he did, he
would know that the JGCSRT8 is the quickest Chrystler vehicle ever produced with the
exception of the Viper SRT. Not the 300, not the Magnum, and not the Charger...

Not all Caddy owners are uninformed homers. My old man owns a DTS with a sports package upgrade, it's a really nice car for what it is, a sharp-looking cruiser but he's got nothing for love for the Jeep.

I let him drive the Jeep on an errand run one day and he double-parked it, he would never do that with his more expensive ML 500 or DTS.

And last Christmas my bro-in-law moved my Jeep way too close to his basketball pole on a 1/2 foot of hard-packed snow. My old man, snow-plowing says "Nate, I need you to move that beast." I says "Why don't you just move it?" He says "Hell no." I soon found out why, tapping the gas as lightly as possible, I started to drift right towards the pole in question! :eek:

Once I got it moved, unscathed, he says "That's why I wanted no part of that!!" Here's a picture of the Beast, DTS (corner of it) and that damn basketball pole:

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d142/NathanOliver/Jeep/ThatThingGotaHemi2-Crop.jpg

:cool:

I really disagree. I own an '01 M3 and test drove several CTS-Vs and the wheel hop on the Caddy is terrible. Also, they simply don't feel the road the way the M3 does and you can't drive it nose-first.

I will say it is a big engine and on a dragstrip it is king. But the very few CTS-Vs I have seen on tracks are usually get lapped by M3s; simply because we can get M3s through the corners better than the Caddys. No doubt with some work the Caddy will perform but if I wanted to spend $70K I would have bought a Viper with no traction control.

First off I have to say that I have a lot of respect for the Jeep SRT8. Its 0-60 times are really unbelievable for a full-size SUV. I am also looking to buy one in the future and was really impressed with the 2008 that I test drove.

That being said, I also own a 2004 CTS-V (lightly modded) and have to completely disagree that the car is a drag king because of the motor. It was tuned at the Nurburgring and the whole purpose of the car was to have a 3850 lb sedan that handled like a much lighter coupe. It performs very well in all aspects, except the launch, which is hampered by the track-tuned suspension geometry.

I don't have much experience driving in the Jeeps, but I would say that it is a fast vehicle, but the sense of speed with a fine-tuned V on the road course is much greater than you could ever get from a 1/4 mile run. I have tracked (road course) my 2004 twice in my life and would be doing it every weekend if I could afford it and I was closer to some tracks.

Both vehicles are very cool limited sleeper type beasts that are amazing in their own right.

This Caddy pulled behind me at a light near my house one evening and was giving me the usual "look at me" nonsense. It was a V, but I had NO idea what that was at the time. I had NO IDEA what it was packin' nevermind it was AWD!

I don't believe Caddy makes a V model with AWD. :confused:

dude at the Caddy dealer told me. LS2, 400 hp, and AWD with a 6 spd manual. If it wasn't AWD, it certainly didn't waste any time coming off the line!:eek:

dude at the Caddy dealer told me. LS2, 400 hp, and AWD with a 6 spd manual. If it wasn't AWD, it certainly didn't waste any time coming off the line!:eek:

No such thing as an AWD CTS-V, or any V-series for that matter (I think). There is talk of the next gen V (2009) possibly having that as an option, but I don't think that will happen either.

I've driven a CTS-V and the wheel-hop on take-off could have dislodged fillings, if I had any. I would never recommend one to anyone. The 08 No longer wheel hop.

Come look me up when ever you're in Chicago. I know of an M3 that can run with ya.

Yes, but it is still a German ricer that sounds like crap :D

There is no such thing as an M3 that sounds good, unless ofcourse it has a motor swap

Now the new one, that is a different story