16 y/o mexican girl slammed into me @ 35mph while i was at a complete stop. she got cited, her insurance accepted liability and they are already tearing it down. im ****ing angry and sad. i took great pains to always park out of the way and **** so i wouldn't get dinged and then this.

they dont think there's frame damage but i dont know if it will ever be the same. body shop is estimating 2-3 weeks.

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i have a purple highlander as a rental. definitely soccer mom mobile. im going to try and get their insurance to cover the fx35 that hertz had on the lot. they are supposedly required to rent me a comparable vehicle. ill fight that battle tomorrow.

also the ebrake was ****ed when they were trying to put it on the tow truck and when we took it off the flat bed it wouldnt go in reverse or park so i dunno if the transmission got ****ed up too

:mad: :(

I feel for you Dave, she got you good. Doesn't look like you'll have frame damage but it might always have new rattles. Best of luck getting her right.

that is a sad sad sight. Very sorry about that and best of luck with the repair. I agree, that likely can be fixed with minimal after-affects and frame is likely ok. Time to order Mopar exhaust.
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16 y/o mexican girl slammed into me @ 35mph while i was at a complete stop.

Is it imperative to state the ethnicity of the girl? Are you insinuating something about Mexican drivers?

Time to order Mopar exhaust.

I'd be trotting done to the body shop and work a deal where I would pay the difference of the stock exhaust upgade to the MOPAR before they order it. Might save you about $500 on the new system and give you something to feel good about this.

Is it imperative to state the ethnicity of the girl? Are you insinuating something about Mexican drivers?
absolutely.

I'd be trotting done to the body shop and work a deal where I would pay the difference of the stock exhaust upgade to the MOPAR before they order it. Might save you about $500 on the new system and give you something to feel good about this.
ill call them on monday, ive actually been thinking about this

got any estimates of the cost difference? if its less than $500 ill do it right away

absolutely.

Unnecessary IMO. A 16 yr old driver is a 16 yr old driver. They pretty much all suck.

But more importantly, sorry to hear about your vehicle and glad no one was hurt.

Alex

Unnecessary IMO. A 16 yr old driver is a 16 yr old driver. They pretty much all suck.

Alex
its a joke

if youre going to take issue with the ethnicity you should take issue with the age and the sex too

otherwise shutup live and let live :)

otherwise shutup live and let live :)

Great motto. :thumbsup:

Good luck with the repair; keep us posted.

Alex

ill call them on monday, ive actually been thinking about this

got any estimates of the cost difference? if its less than $500 ill do it right away
It probably depends how far back they have to replace and what price the shop can get the MOPARS.

Dave,
Sorry to see the crunch...hope it works out and you get a Mopar catback or something for your trouble.

Kinda sickening, being in a crappy rental for a few weeks.
Bill

Damn, that really sucks man. Was the ambulance for you? I would be hot!!! Of course, you could do like everyone else and claim neck and back injuries. I've been on accident calls with no visible damage and the person is claiming neck and back injuries. We like to call it insurance-itis. Good luck with getting it back together.

Glad you're ok. I'm sure they'll get the Jeep back up to par for you.

Sorry to hear about this. I've been in some pretty bad wrecks years ago (none my fault, knock on wood). The most important thing is that you are OK. I love my SRT8, but at the end of the day, it's just a machine/piece of metal. Your accident could have been much worse. Let's all be thankful you are OK. Good luck.

Unnecessary IMO. A 16 yr old driver is a 16 yr old driver. They pretty much all suck.

But more importantly, sorry to hear about your vehicle and glad no one was hurt.

Alex

Exactly. You do not have to tell me about 16 year old drivers with the cell phone growing out of their ear.

If its a good body shop, it will look as good as new....but Carfax and the dealer will get you on a trade. Yes, you may develop rattles...took me 2 weeks to fix 3 of them after an accident. Figured if I went to the dealer, they would blame it on the accident, or make matters worse. Its not the end of the world...

xactly. You do not have to tell me about 16 year old drivers with the cell phone growing out of their ear.

I like Maryland's Rookie driver program (my boys don't, however):

# Under age eighteen (18) are prohibited from using a wireless communication device (including a cell phone) while operating a motor vehicle, except when contacting 911 emergency.
# Under age eighteen (18) are prohibited from transporting any passenger under age eighteen (18) except family members. This prohibition is in effect for 151 days after the provisional license is issued.
# Will be ineligible for a “Probation Before Judgment” (PBJ) ruling from the court if the defendant has previously received a PBJ for a moving violation or criminal offense.
# Must hold the provisional license for eighteen (18) consecutive months with no moving violations. Even a PBJ ruling will mean the eighteen (18) month period has to be restarted.
# Will be ineligible for a full license until at least age seventeen (17) years and nine (9) months.

Alex

Sorry to hear and see what happened. That picture of the exhaust really got to me. Glad you are ok and there was no damage to you!

Good Luck on the insurance - About 4 months ago I had a guy run a red light here in Dallas and clip the front of my wifes car I was driving. Believe it or not I was assigned partial blame because of "failure to yield". The reasoning of the cop that filed the report was that the guy was farther through the intersection than I was - I didnt yeild the right of way(didnt even see him coming) regardless of the red light for him. Then to top things off abount a month later my insurance company let me know that this guy was now saying that he was injured in the accident. Fortunately I havent heard anything since.

Sorry to here about your accident. Dave. If I were you, I'd have them check the entire exhaust system all the way to the exhaust manifold bolts. The pressure it took to bend your cat-back like that could have traveled up your exhaust system.

Good Luck on the insurance - About 4 months ago I had a guy run a red light here in Dallas and clip the front of my wifes car I was driving. Believe it or not I was assigned partial blame because of "failure to yield". The reasoning of the cop that filed the report was that the guy was farther through the intersection than I was - I didnt yeild the right of way(didnt even see him coming) regardless of the red light for him. Then to top things off abount a month later my insurance company let me know that this guy was now saying that he was injured in the accident. Fortunately I havent heard anything since.

That's pretty crappy. Of course he is going to be farther through the intersection since he was most likely moving faster and covering more ground than you trying to run that red light. :rolleyes:

absolutely.

Great! Now you are well educated on the effects of Karma.


if youre going to take issue with the ethnicity you should take issue with the age and the sex too




Age speaks to inexperience, and statistically, female drivers are more likely to be in an accident, making those demographical categories pertinent. Besides exposing your latent racism, mentioning ethnicity adds nothing to the conversation.

Let's drop that part and move on. Plenty of decent discourse going on here. Let's let the perceived negative go.

Well my condolences.

I would have been impressed if you posted this.." As I was sitting at the light I observed a car approaching at a high speed from behind and wasn't going to stop so I punch the the accelerator and took the next lane and just as I did the car just had barely enough time to stop before it hit the car i was previously in front of ...this thing is fast!!!! "

kinda sounds better and has a happy ending..

:)

Too damn bad no one was in the front of you to **** your front up too.

Dude,

That sucks. It could have been much worse and I'm glad that you weren't hurt.

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Great! Now you are well educated on the effects of Karma.




Age speaks to inexperience, and statistically, female drivers are more likely to be in an accident, making those demographical categories pertinent. Besides exposing your latent racism, mentioning ethnicity adds nothing to the conversation.

Why does your screenname have black in it? Why does the color matter?

Dude, I got rear-ended in the UK, similar damage, higher speed impact (50mph). Only the rear section of the exhaust got replaced and the back end bumper of course. That said, no problems since the repair at all. No frame damage...I actually drove the car for a week before handing it over to be repaired. One difference is I was stationary on the freeway (in traffic). When she hit, she pushed me forward a bit - i.e. my brake was not on...this did a lot to prevent more damage. Her car was a written off!!!!

Exactly. You do not have to tell me about 16 year old drivers with the cell phone growing out of their ear.

If its a good body shop, it will look as good as new....but Carfax and the dealer will get you on a trade.


Watch out for that......in most states CarFax is not allowed to report accidents. For the most part.....CarFax is pretty much worthless so dont let any stealership try an tell you different

Why does your screenname have black in it? Why does the color matter?


L O L. seriously though, i see nothing wrong with dave's comments. living in texas, i see a vastly disproportionate number of hispanic drivers being irresponsible behind the wheel than other ethnic groups. if thats what he has observed as well, so be it, he shouldnt have to pretend to view it another way

L O L. seriously though, i see nothing wrong with dave's comments. living in texas, i see a vastly disproportionate number of hispanic drivers being irresponsible behind the wheel than other ethnic groups. if thats what he has observed as well, so be it, he shouldnt have to pretend to view it another way

In my part of the country, driving stupidity isn't limited to any specific ethnicity. We're an equal opportunity crappy driving state.

Alex

Is it possible or at all realistic to sue for the depreciation hit?

Is it possible or at all realistic to sue for the depreciation hit?

I seriously doubt it.

But these days you can sue a ham sandwich, so :dunno:

Alex

Great! Now you are well educated on the effects of Karma.




Age speaks to inexperience, and statistically, female drivers are more likely to be in an accident, making those demographical categories pertinent. Besides exposing your latent racism, mentioning ethnicity adds nothing to the conversation.
Ever consider I threw that comment in there for people like you, bigguy? I'm sure if just as you claim there are statistics claiming there are more accidents caused by females there are statistics that show there more accidents caused by XYZ race so there goes that argument.

now that i think about she was on her cellphone too :lol:

when i helped her out i noticed it was on her floor and had an active call going

Is it possible or at all realistic to sue for the depreciation hit?
I don't know about suing for it, but you can get an estimate on the depreciation and present it to the other person's insurance company. I believe they are then responsible for it.

I used to drive a tow truck. Crummy work, but when you are hungry, you will do most anything.

I picked up a lot of accidents. A LOT of accidents. Be thankful of two things:

1) You are OK.
2) She has insurance.

Sorry for your loss, hope it is fixed well and soon.

I feel for you .............. Get it fixed and continue to enjoy !!! Lucky no one was hurt !!!

Is it imperative to state the ethnicity of the girl? Are you insinuating something about Mexican drivers?

I was standing at a light when I was mauled on the left side by a Ford Expedition driver who obviously didn't have a feel for how wide her truck was. I called 911 to report and tried to explain, with as much detail as possible:

"Hello, I was standing at a red light on such and such intersection when a black woman driving a white expedition with license plate xxxx just crashed into me, please send a unit."

Now, the operator did not ask for location details, whether there were any injuries in my car or the other one, whether anybody else was involved, the circumstances, extent of damage, or any other number of things which would be logical in this situation. Instead, in heavy "ebonics", I hear:

"WHY YOU GOTTA SAY ITS A BLACK WOMAN FOR"

I thought that was just NY..

Is it possible or at all realistic to sue for the depreciation hit?


It is possible to do, but often difficult, and expensive. You need to read your policy carefully, and locate the language as it relates to "dimished value"

Example: you paid $40,000 for a new car one year ago. You went to trade the vehicle last week, and the dealer offered you $32,700. Now your vehicle has been invlved in an accident, and after the repairs are made you suddenly can only get $26,000 upon trade in. The difference is your dimished value.

Once the insurance companies were litigated, exclusions suddenly appeared in most policies. Another exclusion states they are not liable for damage to your car due to "acts of terrorism" and "civil unrest".

Read your policy carefully, then read it two more times.

http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2002/07/23/144245.html

I live in KY and have filed diminished value claims twice. It is very simple....keep records and pics of accident. Have your truck repaired and then take to a wholesaler or dealership and have them write you up the value before the accident and after. Then call the insurance company and tell them you need to file a diminished value claim....but be sure to have the state statutes handy to quote to them or send to them. It is very clear here in KY in the statutes. You may need to talk to the insurance commisioner for your state to get the info needed.

Well they call it an accident for a reason. I'm using these pictures in my drivers education class today, to show my students. They all know what I drive and I'll illustrate the dangers of inexperienced drivers to them, and relay what facts you've told us in the thread.

BTW my girlfriend is mexican and I initially took great offense to your comment, until I realized you were joking. She's one of the best drivers I know and can tear it up on the auto-x courses in my GTI =)

I'm using these pictures in my drivers education class today, to show my students. They all know what I drive and I'll illustrate the dangers of inexperienced drivers to them, and relay what facts you've told us in the thread.

I wish more teachers, of all subjects, were as concerned as you with relating learning with real life!

Alex

I wish more teachers, of all subjects, were as concerned as you with relating learning with real life!

Alex


I try to adapt "real life" situations as much as possible. Especially at the high school level, the students stay engaged and sincerely want to learn when they see images such as those in this thread. We used these pictures as the center for discussion for about 20 minutes today. Hopefully it made an impact. :) Thank you for your kind words!


As a side note, I guess I should try to "contribute" more to this forum (as seen in the Chili's meet thread" ) *rollseyes*

Just got it back. Looks perfect and seems to be driving as it should too. I can't believe the speed and handling after driving a v6 highlander. I've fallen back in love with it all over again and probably appreciate it now more than when I first purchased the vehicle.

The total damage was $9,600. Thanks for the kind words everyone, especially regarding the diminished value. I will research that and take action on Monday if my states laws allow me to. Do they cut you a check?

I used to drive a tow truck. Crummy work, but when you are hungry, you will do most anything.

I picked up a lot of accidents. A LOT of accidents. Be thankful of two things:

1) You are OK.
2) She has insurance.

Sorry for your loss, hope it is fixed well and soon.

Can't agree more on this statement. We got rear ended in one of our company trucks a couple weeks ago. We are parked at a light, with a Murano behind us. Someone plows into the Murano which in turn plows into us. The person who caused the accident has no insurance, so we all lose. Luckily not $9,600 damage, but as the adjuster said, good luck getting any damages from someone who can't even afford to drive with insurance.
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...oh, and glad you got your Jeep back. I get the same feeling everytime I drive anything else I would consider average. Look for power and all you get is a tach going up, a lot of screaming and no go. Get back in the Jeep and everything is right again.
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