check this out...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8C7OZDorUM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMbNJHY8zP0&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpuUd1KUtDo

Would you expect anything less??

ha i second that.

TBSS is a piece, for those of you have have driven one you know what i mean

ha i second that.

TBSS is a piece, for those of you have have driven one you know what i mean

to be honest with you,i wouldnt even drive one!!...but i have seen inside one and it looks like straight rental car!

to be honest with you,i wouldnt even drive one!!...but i have seen inside one and it looks like straight rental car!

omg i know ha. the interior is def my worst favorite feature, next being the sloppy shifting tranny

and the steering wheel :)

Oh guys now stop it I can post vids of me getting my ass spanked by a few TBSS, of course modded, but come on dont stir the pot.

Oh guys now stop it I can post vids of me getting my ass spanked by a few TBSS, of course modded, but come on dont stir the pot.

Ha, I don't see to many around my area, but more than I see SRT's. I would love to race one and see how it goes.

You never know it all depends on each vehicles mods, of course if the TBSS is only slightlly modded your gonna take it but also watch out from a roll they hang pretty well.

http://ui31.gamespot.com/1214/deadhorsebeat_2.gif

http://ui31.gamespot.com/1214/deadhorsebeat_2.gif


Yeah I know I thought we were not going to do this anymore:(
I'm all for posting some grudge matches but not into the bashing that follows along with it, think about how much time and effort some of these TBSS have put into their SUV's to make them run even with ours and for the many that have made some redicously fast ones you gotta respect that.

Jeep > TBSS

The TBSS couldn't even trap 100 mph or break 13s with mods. Haha. :p

What's really embarassing for the TBSS owners is that we only have 25hp more than them!

Jeep > TBSS

The TBSS couldn't even trap 100 mph or break 13s with mods. Haha. :p

WOW you guys are gonna make me go on the defensive for the TBSS but its statements like some of you are making that make US look like total asses and snobs. With only a torque converter change, different wheel/tire setup and tune they can run dead even or faster than a stock SRT Jeep so dont get all butt hurt when one beats you with "JUST A FEW MODS". I can say this because I have raced MANY of them at the track and on the streets and rather than being rude with them I've made some pretty good friends and know what they do to make their rides go fast and they have discovered a way to do it with minimal mods

Did you forget what they named their popular intake? :p

Does this look familiar?

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj130/JJJ93Z/DSC02898-1.jpg

He's a member on here. ;)

I'll be waiting for this so called TBSS that will make me butt hurt with just a few mods.

LOL I could care less if they call it IEATWADESSLOWASSSRT8 intake, post up what track you are close to I'm sure I can find you one-HEHEHE

Just trying to make a point since you're getting "butt hurt" on their behalf. :p But no, we are the asses.

Englishtown.

Just bring it. :)

Just trying to make a point since you're getting "butt hurt" on their behalf. :p But no, we are the asses.

Englishtown.

Just bring it. :)

Hey get your own wording thats mine, in fact I made stickers with it:D:p
Let me see what I can find for ya since your so confident;)

I hope you race better than you pack tail lights-LOL

http://www.cherokeesrt8.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24980&highlight=pinks+zmax

I blame TX. :p

There's 8 tbss's in my town. I personally love them. I'll admit the interior sucks, but I like the way they look on the outside. They only trap a couple of mph's slower than our rigs. I may buy one one of these days when I have the extra money to.

Would that be considered an upgrade or a downgrade from the Slowbalt? :)

A buddy of mine had one a couple years ago and with his options it was pretty nice as far as the interior goes...leather, dvd, nav etc. I looked at a few when I was looking at the JSRT8 and Range Rover Sport together. They have some good potential and Im sure with the engine being that of the corvette platform was, there are many mods available.
I have to give people props for putting their money into something they enjoy, isnt that all that matters....and a little ball breaking now and then:D

I blame TX. :p

LOL we always get blamed:D

Would that be considered an upgrade or a downgrade from the Slowbalt? :)

I don't know...But it's a downgrade from my 1996 toyota corolla for sure :D

WOW you guys are gonna make me go on the defensive for the TBSS but its statements like some of you are making that make US look like total asses and snobs. With only a torque converter change, different wheel/tire setup and tune they can run dead even or faster than a stock SRT Jeep so dont get all butt hurt when one beats you with "JUST A FEW MODS". I can say this because I have raced MANY of them at the track and on the streets and rather than being rude with them I've made some pretty good friends and know what they do to make their rides go fast and they have discovered a way to do it with minimal mods

minimal mods... they DO mod better... but the point you have of "only a torque converter change,..." that pretty much made me stop reading... what i have learned on this forum compared to other car enthusiast sites is that no one does their own work... (or very little)... so if they do the same... that TC is going to cost them over a grand pretty easily... not alone wheel/tires and a tune...

with that you are talking several grand and no warranty :) not that anyone really cares about warranty... but truth be told... they put that stock ****ty converter in there for a reason...

was it:

A. Cost
B. Because it helps lengthen the tranny life
C. Because GM thought "we have the corvette motor so it doesnt matter what we put behind it, it will still be fast"

:)

And your point is?


minimal mods... they DO mod better... but the point you have of "only a torque converter change,..." that pretty much made me stop reading... what i have learned on this forum compared to other car enthusiast sites is that no one does their own work... (or very little)... so if they do the same... that TC is going to cost them over a grand pretty easily... not alone wheel/tires and a tune...

with that you are talking several grand and no warranty :) not that anyone really cares about warranty... but truth be told... they put that stock ****ty converter in there for a reason...

was it:

A. Cost
B. Because it helps lengthen the tranny life
C. Because GM thought "we have the corvette motor so it doesnt matter what we put behind it, it will still be fast"

:)

And your point is?

it is probaby B because of all the trannys they dropping with the AWDs :)

Gotcha just was not sure where you were going with that, your kinda hard to follow sometimes but I get it now.

That or Daniel wanted an 08 set instead. :p

i just think GM limited the tranny though the TC... it might not be like that... but if you spend all that money to get a TC put in and you are putting a death wish on your tranny is it worth it...

when with the jeep you can get those times stock... and the drivetrain is pretty set to handle basic bolt ons...

But then again everything im saying is around the AWD TBSS...

I can tell you from owning both, that I feel the Jeep is a lot better engineered vehicle. The TBSS was great for my wife to drive to work and to pick on imports. GM I feel just dropped the ball in the middle of designing pry cause the knew they were going to cut the trailblazer. I had alot of fun in the TBSS it was awd but like my vette, out of the hole a pooch but when the LS started to pull it was pretty strong. I definately prefer the Jeep over the TBSS in many areas but I feel they are equal when you put cost side by side of what you can pick a awd TBSS up for. I have yet to "pick" on anyone in the Jeep but I am sure the day is comming :)

yeah i think they just threw the motor in and didnt really engineer the rest...

What up GCSRT8ers? I'll be the first TBSSer-only to chime in here. Love your trucks for sure, but couldn't justify the $10k price difference. Slightly bigger engine, MUCH better trans, fatbobs on the back, a few improvements in the interior...there's your $10k. I personally prefer the looks of the TBSS (less is more for me) but also like what they've done with the GCSRT8. I dropped about $6k in my 06 TBSS and she was pretty nasty. Would probably take headers-intake-tune GCSRT8 to hang. Of course there are much faster SRT8s and TBSSs out there.

I'll admit, this thread came off a little pompous, but nothing to get any panties in a bunch. Thanks Wade for sticking up for us lowly TBSS owners.

Race on dudes!

What up GCSRT8ers? I'll be the first TBSSer-only to chime in here. Love your trucks for sure, but couldn't justify the $10k price difference. Slightly bigger engine, MUCH better trans, fatbobs on the back, a few improvements in the interior...there's your $10k. I personally prefer the looks of the TBSS (less is more for me) but also like what they've done with the GCSRT8. I dropped about $6k in my 06 TBSS and she was pretty nasty. Would probably take headers-intake-tune GCSRT8 to hang. Of course there are much faster SRT8s and TBSSs out there.

I'll admit, this thread came off a little pompous, but nothing to get any panties in a bunch. Thanks Wade for sticking up for us lowly TBSS owners.

Race on dudes!

dude i dont get where everyone says 10k difference... i got a brand new jeep 7ish months ago for 39ish with 32 miles on it...

then you have this

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=c&car_id=261312301&dealer_id=100013720&car_year=2008&doors=&systime=&listingCounter=0&model=TRAILBLZ&adModel=TRAILBLZ&search_lang=en&style_flag=1&start_year=2005&keywordsrep=115115&keywordsrep=&keywordsfyc=__c3M,__&keywordsfyc=&highlightFirstMakeModel=&search_type=both&distance=200&min_price=&rdm=1241714408805&drive=&marketZipError=false&advanced=y&fuel=&listingPriority=30&keywords_display=ss&sownerid=9763061&end_year=2010&showZipError=n&make2=&certified=&engine=&adBodyStyle=&page_location=findacar::ispsearchform&body_code=0&transmission=&default_sort=&max_mileage=&address=46544&color=&sort_type=priceDESC&adMake=CHEV&max_price=&awsp=false&adClassSeries=&make=CHEV&seller_type=b&num_records=25&cardist=105

with 10k on it... 7 months later...

explain that one

dude i dont get where everyone says 10k difference... i got a brand new jeep 7ish months ago for 39ish with 32 miles on it...

then you have this

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=c&car_id=261312301&dealer_id=100013720&car_year=2008&doors=&systime=&listingCounter=0&model=TRAILBLZ&adModel=TRAILBLZ&search_lang=en&style_flag=1&start_year=2005&keywordsrep=115115&keywordsrep=&keywordsfyc=__c3M,__&keywordsfyc=&highlightFirstMakeModel=&search_type=both&distance=200&min_price=&rdm=1241714408805&drive=&marketZipError=false&advanced=y&fuel=&listingPriority=30&keywords_display=ss&sownerid=9763061&end_year=2010&showZipError=n&make2=&certified=&engine=&adBodyStyle=&page_location=findacar::ispsearchform&body_code=0&transmission=&default_sort=&max_mileage=&address=46544&color=&sort_type=priceDESC&adMake=CHEV&max_price=&awsp=false&adClassSeries=&make=CHEV&seller_type=b&num_records=25&cardist=105

with 10k on it... 7 months later...

explain that one

I just got an 08 TBSS 3SS in January with everything except NAV and DVD for $28k. That's $11k. Sticker was $39k on mine. What was your sticker?

Can't explain it other than the seller is clueless.

my sticker was 46 but you also got a 2008 when the 09's were out for 4+ months

The only equality on cost of the Jeep vs the TBSS would be the SAAB 97-X basically (from what I know) its a SAAB badged TBSS for the price of a new SRT8 Jeep? Butch is that right or am I way off??

I just got an 08 TBSS 3SS in January with everything except NAV and DVD for $28k. That's $11k. Sticker was $39k on mine. What was your sticker?

Can't explain it other than the seller is clueless.

This is true....Sticker on my 09 was like 51k got it for 38k...I think ~40k is the fully loaded tbss while our rigs have a base msrp of 42k. I chose my GC over the SS because of the interior. Interior was the big selling point for me. The GC has some pretty cool gadgets though that I don't think the SS has. I don't know how the TBSS handles in turns, but my GC feels like a car. It won't handle a corner like my cobalt...but it sure isn't far behind

All I know is that GCSRT8 + TbSS > All haha

eww.... the tbss was running in the 14's? geess..

A buddy of mine had one a couple years ago and with his options it was pretty nice as far as the interior goes...

now your reachin bro... the interior is basically identical as the 2000 monte carlo.. its so outdated... but im not a ss hater at all.. id personally like the body style... if the jeep srt8 didnt exist i probably would have one :)

The only equality on cost of the Jeep vs the TBSS would be the SAAB 97-X basically (from what I know) its a SAAB badged TBSS for the price of a new SRT8 Jeep? Butch is that right or am I way off??

Don't know much about the SAAB other than it shares the engine and rims with the TBSS. I would expect a SAAB to be much nicer on the inside than a Chevy.

Yeah I saw pics of it and it is much nicer, I wonder how many guys that were looking at both the TBSS and SRT8Jeep and chose the jeep over interior quality that did not know about the SAAB 97-X

now your reachin bro... the interior is basically identical as the 2000 monte carlo.. its so outdated... but im not a ss hater at all.. id personally like the body style... if the jeep srt8 didnt exist i probably would have one :)

Its like I said, the TBSS with the nav system is alot nicer than the stock radio system setup. Of course that is the case for most all vehicles right? Now I do not know what package this one was my buddy had but IMO for a comparison to the JSRT8's I was looking at which were pretty much standard with leather, nav, heated seats, VES the TBSS was nice too, not SRT8 nice by no means but nice.
I cant get past the headlights and that piece across the middle of them like a belt.

And bring them to the track, i would love to line up with them and shoot the shat.

Don't know much about the SAAB other than it shares the engine and rims with the TBSS. I would expect a SAAB to be much nicer on the inside than a Chevy.

the saab is the same truck... if you see in the interior it is very similar... but that comes with cost also...

http://www.saabusa.com/saabjsp/97x/index.jsp?model_viewer=1

The TBSS is a nice vehicle. I personally liked the black interior a lot but it felt very truckish in the cabin and in the way it handled. The TBSS still could take a corner but there was a lot of body roll before it would "set". From a dig it felt like a dog....the one the dealer let me take over night would night even chirp the tires with TC off! They look nice but definitely not a head turner like the jeep. The only thing good about it I liked was the black interior and the proven LS2 motor. Although throw too many mods at it and the tranny blows.

In Jan I almost purchased a white 2007 TBSS with 4k miles from Bill Heard in Sanford, FL. I had it overnight and it was nice and I could still have fun with it. When I went back to the dealer I told the salesman I liked it but wanted to drive the jeep to compare. He gave me back the keys and told me to find one (I guess he never drove one!!!). I found an 06' with 14k miles and took it for a spin with a few guys from my shop. WOW!!!! The first words when I slammed the gas were HOLY ****! We couldn't stop smiling. :D I had even talked the salesman down to $23,500 and it was to be sold as new for warr but I would rather buy a used jeep and be happy the a new TBSS and be yearning. Bill heard shut down 2 days later, thank god.

In March I bought my Jeep SRT-8 from Teapz on this forum for 24k with 36k miles on the clock and I have no regrets. I consistently run 12.8's with a best of 12.70....try that in the TB with similar mods. The TBSS is a nice truck but not in the same league as our Jeeps. Yes with enough mod's one can beat us but so can a honda civic!!!!!:eek:

I've owned both.

I purchased a white '06 TBSS new in Dec 2005 and really liked it. It stickered at $40,255 and I paid just over $32,000 for it, and that was at a time when they were just introduced. I put 32,500 miles on my TBSS and didn't have a single issue with it. In stock trim it ran 9.40 at a 1/8 mile track, or the equivalent of 14.50. I upped for a Vector-tuned ECM/TCM and a CAI kit and performance noticeably improved, but I never did make it to the track after. I’d probably still own it today if I hadn’t of found a left-over ’07 SRT8 for $32,900 on a local dealer lot.

Comparing the two, the Jeep is clearly better engineered. The TBSS was “softer” all around. The Jeep is quicker out of the hole, it handles better, it brakes better, aggressive exhaust note. Simply stated, it’s is much like a performance machine in an SUV body. The TBSS obviously didn’t launch as hard, its ride was softer, its brakes weren’t as effective, tamed exhaust note, etc. One thing that bothered me was the sheer number of TBSSs I saw on the street! And I’d estimate that at least half were driven by women! The SRT8 offers a bit of exclusivity. As stated, the Jeep accelerates quicker from a dig, but from a roll, I feel that the SRT8 and TBSS (in tuned form) were equally as quick. It really did run well when punching it at low speed.

Overall, I’m glad I made the move. I’m completely satisfied with the SRT8 GC and hope to keep it for many years! No matter what I can say I’ve owned both and am able to maintain an objective opinion!

We buy cars for what ever reason,but the fact remaines when you give a ass whooping whats wrong with posting it,regardless what it is.Unfortunely the tbss is one of our rivales.Even if some of us own one.

OMG! I cant belive that the tbss lost! even with the jump! why is that??? J/K
LOL...................................

LOL wow this thread blew up!, you guys beat me posting up my own videos! Heres some more

http://www.cherokeesrt8.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28015

and the thread with pics http://www.cherokeesrt8.com/forums/showthread.php?p=400268#post400268

OMG! I cant belive that the tbss lost! even with the jump! why is that??? J/K
LOL...................................

LOL after red lighting a couple times against 10 sec Fbodys (where I couldn't even hear myself think) I played it safe to get official times!

LOL wow this thread blew up!, you guys beat me posting up my own videos! Heres some more

http://www.cherokeesrt8.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28015

and the thread with pics http://www.cherokeesrt8.com/forums/showthread.php?p=400268#post400268


lol...im sorry bro,didnt realize they were for a member here. :)

I have said it before...i was going to get a TBSS but couldnt find an AWD in my area. The main things i liked about the TBSS was the Interior Space and Easy Towing. I wasnt going to get a jeep because i heard it couldnt tow and the gas milage was worse than the TBSS. After i researched i found out the Jeep can tow and the gas milage is comprable (Although the TBSS might be better by a gallon or two average, which is about a gallon per tank which is significant).

After driving the Jeep it only took me 1 mile to realize i wanted it more than the TBSS. The big selling points for me was the interior look/feel and the transmission. I was going to replace the TBSS transmission but it still didnt have "autostick" and it was still a 4spd, both turn offs.

That being said i could have had a Magnacharger, with transmission on a TBSS (my plan) for the price of my jeep and it would have run below 12.5 at over 112.

Now that its over i am really happy with my purchase and am not looking back. I actually see about the same amount of SRTs and TBSS's. About 1 of each every 2-3months. :)

Like Wade said with just a converter they can beat most stock and lightly modded SRT's.

Here is a good example: http://www.performancetrucks.net/forums/showthread.php?t=440299

Like Wade said with just a converter they can beat most stock and lightly modded SRT's.

Here is a good example: http://www.performancetrucks.net/forums/showthread.php?t=440299

Sick TBSS! That Chevy is launching hard, but running a 12.8- in the Jeep for $1500 has got to be more cost effective than all of these mods. I need to get a thermostat stat!

FLT Transmission
Yank 3200 stall
stock tune
275 40 17 drag rads

Do you know if that is a 2wd or 4wd? or what the cost is (installed) for all these goodies?

im sure the tranny isnt cheap...

to me "10,000" is worth it considering the cost of an upgraded tranny :)

http://www.finishlinetrans.com/transmissions/index.htm

http://www.converter.cc/trail_blazer/

so there is right at $3,000 (that TC is 950 alone) without installation

and in my mind if they are running DR's it probably is RWD


put drag radials on a stock 05+ mustang and youll be dipping into 12's also... he is cutting a tenth faster 60' time then a stock jeep... that is huge on the big end... lets see an AWD do that :)

Sick TBSS! That Chevy is launching hard, but running a 12.8- in the Jeep for $1500 has got to be more cost effective than all of these mods. I need to get a thermostat stat!

FLT Transmission
Yank 3200 stall
stock tune
275 40 17 drag rads

Do you know if that is a 2wd or 4wd? or what the cost is (installed) for all these goodies?

That's NORCAL's wife's 2WD TBSS. Converter and built trans + install is about $3,500.

I think the trans and verter are by far the biggest advantage a stock Jeep has over a stock TB. Add 25 horse and .1L displacement and you have your .5-.7 sec advantage in the 1/4.

That's NORCAL's wife's 2WD TBSS. Converter and built trans + install is about $3,500.

I think the trans and verter are by far the biggest advantage a stock Jeep has over a stock TB. Add 25 horse and .1L displacement and you have your .5-.7 sec advantage in the 1/4.

and the fact that truck doesnt have the AWD sucking the life out of it... (and is still getting 1.7 60' :))

Hey if you dont like the TBSS thats fine. If you think we are slow I invite you to our Nationals this labor day weekend in KC. We will be renting KCIR for the day and we can see who is fast and who is slow. If you guys are ever in Illinois you have a lane. As for our trucks not looking good dude, at least I can tow something and I can get in my truck. Your guys truck looks nice but is way way to small. I hope you dont need to any tuck like activity with it also as its not much of a truck now is it? I have 500awhp for less then you paid for your truck. Trans cost me 3250 installed converter cost me 450 used but would be 950 new. Please come talk your **** in our neck of the woods. Also dont worry we will find someone to take the smile off of your face we are looking now!

Hey if you dont like the TBSS thats fine. If you think we are slow I invite you to our Nationals this labor day weekend in KC. We will be renting KCIR for the day and we can see who is fast and who is slow. If you guys are ever in Illinois you have a lane. As for our trucks not looking good dude, at least I can tow something and I can get in my truck. Your guys truck looks nice but is way way to small. I hope you dont need to any tuck like activity with it also as its not much of a truck now is it? I have 500awhp for less then you paid for your truck. Trans cost me 3250 installed converter cost me 450 used but would be 950 new. Please come talk your **** in our neck of the woods. Also dont worry we will find someone to take the smile off of your face we are looking now!

Okay now I have to point out a few things here for the Jeep guys since I did it for the TBSS guys.

1. This whole thing about towing has been exposed, the Jeep can and does tow alot more than what Jeep told us and has been proven heck it can pull a loaded 10' trailer and a full size boat with no problems. There are tow packages available now for this with simply lowering the rear exit exhaust tips. Many members on here tow their 20' plus boats with no issues.

2.Small interior, come on now there are plenty of big guys on here and not once have I heard anyone complain about the small cabin space of the SRT8 Jeep.

The rest of what you posted that is between you and the guy who called you out:D


http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y283/texastourist/JeepSRT8Boat02.jpg

BTW we do like chicken-LOL

Hey if you dont like the TBSS thats fine. If you think we are slow I invite you to our Nationals this labor day weekend in KC. We will be renting KCIR for the day and we can see who is fast and who is slow. If you guys are ever in Illinois you have a lane. As for our trucks not looking good dude, at least I can tow something and I can get in my truck. Your guys truck looks nice but is way way to small. I hope you dont need to any tuck like activity with it also as its not much of a truck now is it? I have 500awhp for less then you paid for your truck. Trans cost me 3250 installed converter cost me 450 used but would be 950 new. Please come talk your **** in our neck of the woods. Also dont worry we will find someone to take the smile off of your face we are looking now!

"as for it not looking good at least i can tow"- well i bet my dad is bigger then your dad... jesus man... some people dont care about towing... as the same with cost...

the fact of the speed matter is... stock the jeep is faster... and we all know if you are talking about a 11-10 second car... the TBSS RWD is better...



and not to be a **** but the real question is... why didn't GM put a better torque converter in it stock?
i have a college friend who works for GM in their hybrid division and from what ive been told their "long term" testing is 36,000mi... so is it a testing problem, cost problem, or giving a fail safe for the tranny?

Just so you know I am being biased:

Interior Specs for SRT8 Jeep:

Front Headroom-39.7 in
Rear Headroom-39.3 in
Front Leg room-41.7 in
Rear Leg room-35.3 in
Front Shoulder-58.5 in
Front Hip-57.6 in
Rear Hip-45.8 in

Passenger Volume 108.9 cu ft

TBSS interior dimensions


Front Headroom- 40.2
Rear Headroom-39.6
Front Leg-46.9
Rear Leg-37
Front Shoulder-58.5
Front Hip-56
Rear Hip-58.2

Passenger Volume- 83.3 cu ft


The big differene is the sport bucket seats the SRT8 have that for some of the bigger guys may make it feel tight.

"as for it not looking good at least i can tow"- well i bet my dad is bigger then your dad... jesus man... some people dont care about towing... as the same with cost...

the fact of the speed matter is... stock the jeep is faster... and we all know if you are talking about a 11-10 second car... the TBSS RWD is better...



and not to be a **** but the real question is... why didn't GM put a better torque converter in it stock?
i have a college friend who works for GM in their hybrid division and from what ive been told their "long term" testing is 36,000mi... so is it a testing problem, cost problem, or giving a fail safe for the tranny?

I am not really trying to take anything away from the truck but to make out like the jeep is all that just kills me. You guys always want to talk about stock this and stock that like it matters. It does not. We mod way better then you guys do because we have real tuning and have the long time support for the LS2. If you guys want to race please feel free to get a lane with us it will not end up like the video for the most part! We can throw any time you want from 8 seconds on up. If you want to say you have a nice truck that is fine (and its also true). If you want to say our trucks suck then you are gonna have to come get some! If you do dont feel bad when you get it handed back to you bruised!

If you guys want to race please feel free to get a lane with us it will not end up like the video for the most part!

"for the most part"

We can throw any time you want from 8 seconds on up.

that is the exact point... 8 and up... the jeep is 13 and down :)

and as of last week the fastest TBSS was a high 9 was it not? (RWD)... we just had that discussion... what is the fastest AWD? if i were going to spend money to make a RWD LS2 fast... it would be in a corvette... so i am still baffled with that


If you want to say our trucks suck then you are gonna have to come get some! If you do dont feel bad when you get it handed back to you bruised!

honestly... if you want to show everyone how fast YOUR truck is then go show them... and not talk **** over the internet like your 15

and i dont think anyone has said its "all that" because honestly (for me) the jeep is not the car of my choice... i needed something AWD... i have two other cars i can have fun with...

so i decided to get rid of a MUSTANG and get something AWD... so what choices are there... (im not going to drive a WRX or EVO)... TBSS and SRT... one of the guys out here has a trailblazer (not a SS) and i dont like the interior and he had tons of trouble with it... so i got a jeep

I just want to make a quick point....this is a Jeep SRT8 forum (we talk **** about TBSS)...lets go check out the TBSS forum, bet they are talking the same **** about us! If you don't like it, go to another forum...just a thought!


I love this place!

^ Well said. :) I was trying to make a point that they made an intake called "IEatSRT" so they must be getting butt hurt when we beat them. :p It's not a big deal and I'm not offended by it. But that just goes to show you.

f-in a cotton

I just want to make a quick point....this is a Jeep SRT8 forum (we talk **** about TBSS)...lets go check out the TBSS forum, bet they are talking the same **** about us! If you don't like it, go to another forum...just a thought!


I love this place!

we really dont talk a bunch of **** about the jeep. As for not liking it what are you saying that I should leave the forum. Is that what you would really like me to do? If it is then I have to say you are kind of a jerk if that is the attitude you are really promoting.

Here is what is being said about this thread on our board please find the ****!

As for the 13 and down we have plenty of bolt on only trucks that are in the 13's and down (and they still cost less then the jeep)!! We also run 13's with just a tune so you points are worthless!!

http://www.tbssowners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27744&highlight=jeep

You guys are really portraying our trucks in a bad light so I tell you what, come get a lane then I will post a video of me beating on your trucks and talk a bunch of crap.

By the way the reason that we dont talk a bunch of crap about your trucks is because they are nice trucks. We also have nice trucks, you may not agree but you do not find a bunch of flames on our board about jeeps!

You know what Matt I think I will take you up on your offer and just leave since you guys offer only one opinion on things. Not the kind of place I want to hang out with that attitude anyways.

rwboring-
I was in the same boat as well. Needed a new AWD DD, and didn't want to drive a juvenile subcompact and couldn't afford the high end AWD Euro sports cars so I grabbed the better looking (and performing) of the two AWD performance SUVs.

Clearly we know that with enough money anything can be faster. But the reason the Snailblazers will always get ripped on is because 90% of the ones on the road are not 9 second track cars. Most of the modded ones have CAI, exhaust and minimal mods because they are daily driven. Not everyone is in the position to mod beyond warranty. I am one of those people. That being said for having the same mods to the white TBSS in those kill videos I think the Jeep comes out on top.

I have a Z28 that will own a lot of the cars at the strip but thats b/c I have a ton of money dumped into it, and it is not a DD. If it blows up I am not worried about getting home or going to work the next day. Since it is a N20 addict it is in a completely different ballpark than mild bolt on cars. I think that it should then be compared against cars that are built to be used as toys, like 9 second RWD SUVs. Not high school kids' GT mustangs.

^ Well said. :) I was trying to make a point that they made an intake called "IEatSRT" so they must be getting butt hurt when we beat them. :p It's not a big deal and I'm not offended by it. But that just goes to show you.

True story, that white one I ran against had one of those. Looked like a quality product, but if I was him I would go after the company for false advertising. :lol:

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Chill back. Just because you're butt hurt doesn't mean you have to be a little cry baby about it. Matt's a very nice guy. :)

True story, that white one I ran against had one of those. Looked like a quality product, but if I was him I would go after the company for false advertising. :lol:

:rofl: Nice! I would have thought he didn't have the infamous "IEatSRT" CAI since you waxed and bussed him. :D

just want to go in here for a second

the vid was my wifes 12.7x tbss with just converter/stall

Im now doing a 50 shot on it should run high 11s ill keep you guys updated.


Do you have 2 brothers named Tony:D

Wow.....talk about a lot of pissing and moaning in this thread!!!

The TBSS is a nice truck that can run pretty fast, take a corner, and stop okay. It's comfortable day to day and comes already hooked up to tow. I like these trucks, hell I almost bought one.

For me I wanted a cobra, challenger, shelby....but a coupe thats fast was all it clicked off on my agenda. I needed something that could tow and haul people but still looked like a "muscle car", had the sound, and most importantly felt closer to the coupe's listed above. I almost got a lightning but only could fit 3 people. I drove a jeep and was stunned at the performance and then I found this forum and saw how well they mod. Yes the LS2 is a great motor as are all the LSX's but the tranny is lacking and suspension was too soft for my taste....if feels like a truck. I know all that could be changed with aftermarket but the jeep was already there.

I've beat some nice cars bmw, mercedes, mustang, camaro, cobra, etc and I've been beat by some nice cars but the jeep puts a huge grin on my face and does what I need it to do just like you TBSS guys....it fits what you need. We all enjoy speed, the sound of the V8, and besting our times at the dragstrip. Relax, have fun.....we all do this for the same reason. The pissing match doesn't solve a damn thing.

When I ran a 12.80 at Gainesville, not my PB but good time, a turbo import drove around me at the end after letting the turbo spool at the line.....I can post the video if the TBSS guys would like to see my jeep beaten....and I gave him kudo's. Yes the competition we have is what spurred Chris's jeep to run 10.5@129.99....we will be in the nines soon enough but use it for positive not to see who's **** is bigger!!!!

For the record everything is bigger in Texas

lol nope.

there was a jeep at the track same day i was there he was stock running 13.40s. I was hoping to race against him. If i hit a 11.99 with just a 50 shot ill be happy.

Good luck, keep us posted. And vids are always good :D

First off, thanks for your no disrespect header, but there is no need my friend...you are coming at my opinion, not what I do, so no worries...but appreciated!
we really dont talk a bunch of **** about the jeep. As for not liking it what are you saying that I should leave the forum. Is that what you would really like me to do? If it is then I have to say you are kind of a jerk if that is the attitude you are really promoting.
I was simply making the point that this is a Jeep forum...so most of us on here own a Jeep, meaning we will talk **** about the TBSS, because basically it is our arch rival. For you to say that no one is talking **** about the GCSRT8 on the TBSS forum is a load of crap, we all know better....but that is the fun of it being on the TBSS forum, you talk **** about your arch rival, do you not!!! As far as me being a jerk...you hit the nail on the head, soI won't comment on that;)
As for the 13 and down we have plenty of bolt on only trucks that are in the 13's and down (and they still cost less then the jeep)!! We also run 13's with just a tune so you points are worthless!!
When something costs less, does that mean it is better....or just cheaper.....:confused:
You guys are really portraying our trucks in a bad light so I tell you what, come get a lane then I will post a video of me beating on your trucks and talk a bunch of crap.
Yes, you might kick my ass all over the track (I would still have fun losing, I just love racing)....but that won't stop me from kicking almost every other TBSS's ass that comes my way....because not everyone mods like you!
By the way the reason that we dont talk a bunch of crap about your trucks is because they are nice trucks. We also have nice trucks, you may not agree but you do not find a bunch of flames on our board about jeeps!
I am glad you like our trucks. Not really a big fan of yours, but do like a lot of the TBSS owners out there...some great people! But I still think I will find plenty of postsbagging on our Jeeps....might have to check em out sometime.

As far as you leaving the forum, sorry if I hurt some feelings, feel free to stay, it's a fun place here!!!!

As for the 13 and down we have plenty of bolt on only trucks that are in the 13's and down (and they still cost less then the jeep)!! We also run 13's with just a tune so you points are worthless!!

a 13.9 is different from a 13.004 that i ran tonight with just an intake... so just go back to your tbss forum and ***** about the jeeps on there

As for the 13 and down we have plenty of bolt on only trucks that are in the 13's and down (and they still cost less then the jeep)!! We also run 13's with just a tune so you points are worthless!!

my point of that was saying there is NO JEEP SRT running 14's... but there are a LOT of TBSS's... anything stock actually...

The slowest I ran was around a 13.8 stock; after driving 2 hours, 30 minutes of stop and go traffic, in 90 degrees heat, with horrible DA, in 2nd gear! /ricer excuses

:p

The slowest I ran was around a 13.8 stock; after driving 2 hours, 30 minutes of stop and go traffic, in 90 degrees heat, with horrible DA, in 2nd gear! /ricer excuses

:p

yep... and i'm sure thats faster then well over half of the SS's out there :)

yep... and i'm sure thats faster then well over half of the SS's out there :)

Im not bashing at all but based on this quote i would think its faster than ALL of the recent american SS's except the Camaro and Maybe the 2wd TBSS.

HHR
Cobalt
SSR
Impala
Silverado
S10

Now i am not really brand loyal, i buy what i like/need and what is fast. But i will say that Chrysler has done A LOT more with the SRT name than GM has done with the SS. It just seems like they dont get as technical/precise about what they are doing. GM just throws parts on the existing car. I have heard that the Cobalt SS with the turbo is actually a pretty decent car in both the handling, braking, and somewhat power department but the rest are all disappointments to me. I think to be an SS it should at least run a 13 sec quarter mile. What has happened to the 60's SS's. The only ones i would even consider right now are the Camaro/Cobalt/TBSS and i think the Neon/Caliber and the GCSRT8 do the job better. Although i will give the camaro credit, i saw one this weekend and have read the articles and i think it will be a MUCH better car for the money than the Charger/Challanger. Camaro 35k pretty much loaded as opposed to 40k base for the others.

^^^ I agree, from the reviews so far it seems the Camaro SS will be a better all around performer than the challenger. Now if dodge or chevy would make them handle as good as the mustang gt with the track package!

i laugh when i hear the well our rigs are $10k more, so what happens then when i got into my 09 fully loaded for less then the tb ss entry level with no nav and such........

apparently then nothing can be said for the price, i was dead set on buying a tb ss myself until my friend got me to go and drive the gcsrt8 first and ended up buying it the same day.

ive raced a bunch of the tb ss and i havent had one thats put up any kind of challenge

^ seems like someone did some research...

i cant help the TBSS guys dont look at what SOME people are getting jeeps for and when they are getting them (during a production year they will be more expensive then after)... they just look at msrp...

agreed, do your research and find a dealer that will work with you, luckily i found a dealer that was only an hour away and due to the volume of vehicles they sell gave me a killer deal.

so if we go by what i paid and what the tb ss was msrp, got mine for less then a bare bones tb ss. with that in mind what vehicle would you buy if they were the same you just had to grab the keys and leave in it?

agreed, do your research and find a dealer that will work with you, luckily i found a dealer that was only an hour away and due to the volume of vehicles they sell gave me a killer deal.

so if we go by what i paid and what the tb ss was msrp, got mine for less then a bare bones tb ss. with that in mind what vehicle would you buy if they were the same you just had to grab the keys and leave in it?

So what did you pay?

paid $50 cdn and change for an 09 fully loaded with nav/rear dvd player, all the protection packages as well as a lengthy extended warranty

Wow you TBSS guys are on something. Your trucks are not at fast, they don't handle as well, they don't stop as fast, and aren't nearly as nice inside. That's why they are cheaper. Sorry guys it's just they way it is. I'm not talking about mods either, so let that go. WHy you guys have to be this way is beyond me. Jealous???

Jeep SRT8 > TBSS ;)

Jeep SRT8 > TBSS ;)

Jeep SRT8 > SAAB... and its 10k more :)

you know ive seen some really fast Neons also... but they dont talk **** on the jeep... i think they have more respect for vehicles and are generally much younger then most of the TBSS owners... actually the same thing goes for honda drivers...

actually, all you have to say is "it is a nice car, but it should be for that price"... there is no reason to get defensive from the get go...

Wow you TBSS guys are on something. Your trucks are not at fast, they don't handle as well, they don't stop as fast, and aren't nearly as nice inside. That's why they are cheaper. Sorry guys it's just they way it is. I'm not talking about mods either, so let that go. WHy you guys have to be this way is beyond me. Jealous???

Jeep guys always want to talk stock vs stock (advantage SRT8...end of discussion).

TBSS guys always want to talk dollar vs dollar (USUALLY advantage TBSS). We both spend $45k on our trucks (purchase price included) and I guarantee your stock vs stock performance advantage disappears.

There are multiple points is this argument/disagreement/discussion and its a pi$$ing match that will never end.

I personally take a little offense at anyone who dogs my vehicle (although the Snailblazer nickname got a good laugh out of me), but what car enthusiast wouldn't take a little offense at someone dogging their ride??

I love your trucks...always have. My father works at GM and employee pricing on the TBSS made the decision for me. Pricing aside, would I drive an SRT8? Absolutely.

My father works at GM and employee pricing on the TBSS made the decision for me. Pricing aside, would I drive an SRT8? Absolutely.

there you go... thats all you have to say...



how about "Super Slow"

actually, all you have to say is "it is a nice car, but it should be for that price"... there is no reason to get defensive from the get go...

did i miss something, was this directed at me or did you mis-read something, all i simply said was the jeep is better than the tbss, didnt say why or how or incorporate price or anything, i made a short, simple belief statement which in fact is a fact, obviously i was talking stock, because thats how you compare vehicles, stock to stock, not potential, or other variables, because variables vary, thats what they are, thats why tbss owners get off hook, they talk about price, or variables, who cares, its like saying a cts-v is better than jeep, well no duhh, its just simple fact, thats what people dont get, its not wrong to make these claims, its just simple facts of matter, no need to get defensive for sure. So as I said before Jeep SRT8 > TBSS ;)

did i miss something, was this directed at me or did you mis-read something, all i simply said was the jeep is better than the tbss, didnt say why or how or incorporate price or anything, i made a short, simple belief statement which in fact is a fact, obviously i was talking stock, because thats how you compare vehicles, stock to stock, not potential, or other variables, because variables vary, thats what they are, thats why tbss owners get off hook, they talk about price, or variables, who cares, its like saying a cts-v is better than jeep, well no duhh, its just simple fact, thats what people dont get, its not wrong to make these claims, its just simple facts of matter, no need to get defensive for sure. So as I said before Jeep SRT8 > TBSS ;)

no not towards you... i was just saying i dont think there is a way to compare what you are getting...

i dunno maybe not, honestly i personally dont care haha, people comparing cars is just a pissing contest, comparing anything for that fact that isnt research is useless, if there is nothing to be gained or lost, you must be comparing for some sort of reason like, insecurity, or to pound your chest and make yourself feel good, like seriously, if you have to go out of your way and compare whips, its sad i guess, we have all done it though be honest haha, so in reality those who are humble win lol, always, now if someone comes asking for it, thats diff, but i have high tolerance so its all good, i buy what i like, i drive what makes me feel good and what i love, my passion, thats this car, no need to compare to a TBSS your right, can you, sure, need to, absolutely not, thats all im saying ha

btw i was referring to you rwboring here at all lol, just whomever

We all know that if you want "cheap" speed, all you need is an LS1 F-body and $10k (this includes buying the car and all the mods).

I like the TBSS better than most SUV's. I also have an LS1 and understand their cult like following.

I prefer the Jeep, it is the best everyday vehicle for the money (if you need AWD).

Some here are trading their Jeep's for the CTS-V or AMG Mercedes. (Which cost $10k+ more than the Jeep.) Now if I just put $ into my Jeep it might be faster than a CTS-V or an E55 AMG? Maybe, but it is not a MB or Cadillac.

I definately would not go on the MB board and state my Jeep is faster and cheaper than your MB, let's go to the track and race. Thats just silly:eek:

I definately would not go on the MB board and state my Jeep is faster and cheaper than your MB, let's go to the track and race. Thats just silly:eek:

Heres another vid from the same night.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtadWC8Qxdo

We ran within under .1 of each other every run. He has ECU upgrade and forged 20"s with fresh tires. His best time was a 12.7x against my buddy's Z.

I never understood all this TB crap anyways. Stock vs stock, mod vs mod..whatever. When I bought my jeep, I put about 500 miles on it to break it in..then I took my STOCK SRT8 up to 164 mph and had more to go. Lets see a Trailblazer do that!!!. 2 weeks ago, I watched a friends totally stock 08 GC SRT8 run a 13.10 @ 103 against a TBSS's 14.28 @ 97 at Sealy. I ran a 12.98 @ 104 with only a CAI and no resonators...

Whiney ass TBSS owners...

JJJ93Z- Nice run, I know are Jeeps are fast and can compete with almost any vehicle in the 1/8th and 1/4 mile.

The MB costs more than our Jeep, so does that make the Jeep better since it is cheaper and just as fast? No, it is different and that is the point I was trying to make.


Even though the Jeep and the TBSS are both fast SUV's, they are in different categories. The Jeep is more like a sports car and the TBSS is closer to a GC 5.7 hemi (a nice and powerful SUV).

My Jeep is faster than the Cayenne Turbo S and with 100K in Mods its even faster! I'd still take the Cayenne over the jeep just like i chose the Jeep over the TBSS. It was the nicer car that gave me more of what i wanted for a similar price.

that nice but they allso have trss beating srt8 to

that nice but they allso have trss beating srt8 to


This pinto runs low 11's.
http://www.fordpinto.com/images/Ypinto/Ypinto88.gif

It all depends on what mods you have. I think the point being, stock vs stock the jeep will win every time.

"If's" are like a-holes; every loser has one.

Seriously, though...you will find this argument on every car site. When I was one of the Blue Oval faithful, I had to constantly listen to this crap between GT and Cobra owners...or Cobra and GT500 owners. It's always "yeah your car is faster stock, but if I had the extra 10k you spent on it, mine would be faster". Whatever...if I dumped 10k in my wifes WRX, it would smoke your TBSS too. Who really cares? Or "but yours came with a supercharger, if mine had one...". Duh, that's why he bought it!

Buy the vehicle you want...be proud of the one you have. Just don't degrade yourself with the "I know somebody who can beat you" or "mine would be faster if.." crap. Save that for the import sites.

:confused: What ??

If you're referring to gas mileage then I think you are making a pretty negligible argument . Both trucks are heavy and get poor mileage anyways. People who buy these things clearly don't care about MPG.

2008 Chevrolet Trailblazer AWD 12 city 16 highway.

2009 Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT8 11 city 14 highway.

http://autos.yahoo.com/2009_jeep_grand_cherokee_srt_8-specs/

Even if I get outdone on MPG, I will meet you in the bar at the final destination 1 hour before you get there, first round is on me, winners buy. :D

yayaya say that at the track and you be buying the drink after you get beat.

I not mad I have all the toys. 2006 tb and 2008 srt jeep for show :) and as a daily drive 2008 HHR trubo not stock.;):p

In the words of the great American philosopher Rodney King - "Can't we all just get along?"

I must say that I really do appreciate performance vehicles of most shapes and sizes...especially those with a nasty American V-8. While we all have a different vision of what the perfect ride is, we can seem to agree that performance is an addiction. Hell, it takes a special breed of idiot to buy a 5000lb, gass-guzzling, performance SUV.

While silly, these "my .... is bigger than your ...." arguments can actually be interesting to a point; perhaps adding a bit of motivation to improve the performance of our rides. So jump in, throw some jabs, have fun...just don't get your panties in a bunch. We're making fun of your truck, not your Mother. Although, the TBSS looks like something SHE should be driving, not you!

Pot respectfully stirred...

srt8 are nice but like to see you on a long trip you be at the gas station and
a tb can pass you by. if you like a f**king srt you get a srt. If you like a f**cking tb you get that.

huh? you have a tbss and a gcsrt8? thats an odd combination

funny how you had the tbss first and than the jeep came into the pic.. now why in the world did you do that? i highly doubt theres a person on this earth that has a gcsrt8 and than a year or 2 later bought a tbss....

so what does that tell ya... ? :)

i drove down to FL in my rig at a constant 80 miles an hr and got 15 miles a gallon... the tbss isnt that much better guy... so please... come up with somethng better than tht :)

All the SRT8 **** HEAD SAY LOT OF WORD and care about how you spell well FU. If you
don't like a TBSS bring the **** jeep to the track and put the $ on the **** jeep. my $ on
the TBSS. Some guy got nothing to do but take **** bring it. Buy the way I got a jeep
and I don't take all that **** so get a life and a TBSS to.

Im not defensive! You just make stupid comments on a public forum!!

I got you 2006 TBSS head cam slp header and tune and trans

I have to put my $0.02 in here.

I have a 5.7L JGC Hemi - I've never taken it to the track, but don't they run in the 14's bone stock?

If that's the case, why are you guys comparing an SUV that runs in the 14's stock (TBSS), with a SUV that runs in the low 13's stock? :confused:

That's like comparing my bone stock JGC 5.7L to a bone stock JGC SRT8... I know for a fact I'd lose. No surprise there... lol

The real question is, why is the TBSS running similar 1/4 mi times compared to the 5.7L JGC when it has around 60 more HP? Is it that much heavier??

Let's skip the literacy, class warfare, sob story crap and keep it about the trucks here. Yes we'll keep making fun of the TB even though we know some heavily modded TBs can run fast. Did anyone already post that link to the Jeep vs. TBSS cartoon link? If not, that's pretty much called for at this point.


I think everyone on the post needs to take that into account. I agree -- keep it to the truck stuff. no more making fun of others.. it's not right.

This back and forth will never end!! To each their own!!! You like your trucks... and I like your trucks too!! You dont have to like mine (TBSS)!! But I'm sure you can respect a SUV that runs the times mine does!!! :D

My goodness, the broad-brushed classist merde is really hitting the ventilateur.... Enough with the social justice and good school crap. You want to go to a good school, then sell your TBSS and friggin apply to one. Subject and verb must still agree.

TBSS, didn't used to have anything against them, or their owners, but with your acts of distinction, you're getting into the Jersey Goat Owner realm of obnoxiousness.

SnailblazerSuperSlow:

I enjoy watching the SRT8 swaffle the TBSS every time. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMbNJHY8zP0

My goodness, the broad-brushed classist merde is really hitting the ventilateur.... Enough with the social justice and good school crap. You want to go to a good school, then sell your TBSS and friggin apply to one. Subject and verb must still agree.

TBSS, didn't used to have anything against them, or their owners, but with your acts of distinction, you're getting into the Jersey Goat Owner realm of obnoxiousness.

social justice isn't crap - as far as i'm concerned - it's a pretty good cause to stick up for. and the TBSS guys on here aren't doing anything wrong (except stating facts that a TBSS CAN and DOES run faster that a 13), i think it's some of the dudes that own SRT8's that are making fun of others. either way, i won't try to get my point through to anyone that's close-minded, cause that's a lost cause in itself. either way, a truck is truck - and i think that anyone that builds a fast truck can have respect for another dude that does the same -- right? right. :)

Enjoy!!!;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bW_aHJGJig

Your TBSS sounds great. Reminds me of my buddies old lightning with the sound the maggie is making on your beast! He had his pushing 16lbs with a steigmeter stage IV port. Thanks for the vid.

You may have stated this already but I don't feel like wading through all the BS but what does your rig run in the 1/4? I'm guessing with your mods low 12's to high 11's?

If Chrysler drops the ball and cancels the next GCSRT8 then we may have a TBSS in the driveway for my fiancee. She loves my jeep but she liked the extra roomy feeling in the TBSS for future additions to the fam.

Try not to get too worked up with these GCSRT8 guys, they really are great guys but they do like to bust balls! :rolleyes: :p

Your TBSS sounds great. Reminds me of my buddies old lightning with the sound the maggie is making on your beast! He had his pushing 16lbs with a steigmeter stage IV port. Thanks for the vid.

You may have stated this already but I don't feel like wading through all the BS but what does your rig run in the 1/4? I'm guessing with your mods low 12's to high 11's?

If Chrysler drops the ball and cancels the next GCSRT8 then we may have a TBSS in the driveway for my fiancee. She loves my jeep but she liked the extra roomy feeling in the TBSS for future additions to the fam.

Try not to get too worked up with these GCSRT8 guys, they really are great guys but they do like to bust balls! :rolleyes: :p

Thanks for all the great complements!! :) I hadnt got a chance to run it at the track this year (just street races) with the new engine after up'n the boost!!! Last year with the factory engine and 8psi of boost I was running 11.7 with my best run of 11.5 at Pinks All Out (Infenion Raceway)!! This year I will be well into the 10's...... I dont get to worked up over the BS!!!! Thanks again for the nice words!! Im sure your fiancee will love her new ride if she gets one!!! :D

Thanks for all the great complements!! :) I hadnt got a chance to run it at the track this year (just street races) with the new engine after up'n the boost!!! Last year with the factory engine and 8psi of boost I was running 11.7 with my best run of 11.5 at Pinks All Out (Infenion Raceway)!! This year I will be well into the 10's...... I dont get to worked up over the BS!!!! Thanks again for the nice words!! Im sure your fiancee will love her new ride if she gets one!!! :D


11.7 is exactly where I want to be right now! Thats not bad on just 8lbs of boost. Good luck on the 10's bud...post the vid up for me when you get there.

I almost bought a white 07 TBSS before the GCSRT8 but I like the little extra stats the jeep held down stock. I know anything with an LS motor can rip, previously being a GM guy. I guess now I am just a plain american muscle guy, I don't care whether its from Chrylser, GM, or Ford, as long as it has a V8 and rips I like it!!! I still love my 97' Camaro Z28 but my jeep spanks it too bad to want to drive it anymore. :( LOL

Another thread gone bad with personal attacks and hijacking leading to complaints. Don't be surprised if some of you hear from me and/or the admin.

Bernie