: Where to buy Stainless Steel Brake lines?
jhriss 03-21-2009, 07:13 PM Ok, searched high and low. So far nothing. Google and forums are failing me. Somebody tell me what is up. Should I really trust that mastertech supply guy?
If so, then I guess since he made some already, he should know the measurments and fittings from the stock brembo ones he was sent. Kind of custom though, I'm scared to do it like that, too bad Bwoody dropped em due to low demand.
So please post a direct url link to the site where the ss lines are available if it exists.
Cheers,
Jason
robpp 03-22-2009, 12:01 AM the guy from peru had mastertech make him some, he posted up. they fit no issue.
his id is something like peptizon see if you find his posts, maybe send a PM to him now to check the status.
Despi 03-22-2009, 09:44 AM I just ordered a set from http://www.mastertechsupply.com/ I dealt with Zach (zpollert@mastertechsupply.com). He was always quick to reply to my emails and shows great customer service so far. They should be shipping shortly so can't report on quality or fitment. He needs a stock set to reman the fittings onto stainless lines. I paid $250 shipped for him getting a new set of stock lines from a dealer. If you can find a cheap set of stock lines or can send him your stock it would only be around $100.
Learo2000GT 03-22-2009, 11:36 AM Check with R1 concepts... I got some for my lighting and they were good quality and great customer service
jhriss 03-22-2009, 12:09 PM R1 concepts? What is the link, I'll try to look them up. So about mastertech, I wrote them and told them what I needed and I assume that because they have already done a few sets by now then, that the measurements should for sure be on file and all I should have to do it just tell him what I need right? I mean are the lines different from year to year, mine is a 2007, I think the other 2 sets he did were also 2007. We'll see, I'll post when I find out. Thanks all, and hey Despi, what year is your srt8? He could just base mine off of those, it doesn't take long does it? His site says built brake lines custom within one day or while you wait.
Despi 03-22-2009, 12:17 PM The issue is that the connectors are pretty unique and not something he stocks so he uses the fittings off the stock line to reman onto a new stainelss set. The increased turn around time for me was waiting for the new stock set of lines he ordered from a dealer near him at the end of last week.
jhriss 03-22-2009, 12:38 PM So are you saying that the reason he needs a new set of stock lines is because he has to actually use parts from it, mainly the connectors and re fab those and man them on to the new set of ss lines he makes? Darn, I thought he just needed specs and measurements and that was it. Hopefully he can find a place to get the correct connections soon and I can just order them straight up. If not, $150 for new lines to him and then $100 for ss ones, is only $250 and not bad at all.
So are these all the same for all years? Like does anyone already have ss lines and want to sell me the old stock lines for a good deal for this?? and would the connectors be the same??
Cheers,
Jason
jhriss 03-22-2009, 12:48 PM Hear LearoGT, what is up with that site for R1 concepts man. They have rotors and pads for rear, but nothing for brake lines. Did you get yours from there? Did they custom build them for you? If so how are they?
Here is what hey have online:
http://store.r1concepts.com/store/search.aspx?key=av06607&submit=Search
Learo2000GT 03-22-2009, 02:48 PM I didnt get them for my Jeep, I got them for my Lightning. I was just letting you know it would be worth a look to see if they have them. They had good customer service when I bought all my brake stuff for my lightning from them.
Good Luck.
Doug
jhriss 03-22-2009, 06:14 PM K, cool, well I'll see what I can come up with and post back. Hoping that despi will sell me old lines he replaces, and then send those to mastertech if that is all that can be done. Geeze, for my M3 and 330Xi it was a piece of cake, there are like 5 different brands for each. I guess the fast Jeep concept is still catching on. Either way pretty sweet ride to mod, not bad on the wallet for what you get out. For an ECU TCU software program flash on my ECU for a C63 AMG **** costs $6K just for software, vs. Diablo sport tuner is like $350, so I'm having fun with the new Jeep, it's an 07 with 300 miles on it, picked it up for $30K with all the options as it was from a car show, totally stoked right now. Thanks guys and I'll post back up on this site. I'll see if maybe I can contact brembo and have them done or at least the fitting specs made known so we call can get the ss lines a lot easier without having to go totally custom.
Despi 03-23-2009, 07:20 AM Talked to Zach at mastertechsupply today. He is expecting the stock lines to be in from the dealer today and he will turn them around same day. I went with the smoke grey coating with all fittings painted black. I am really looking forward to getting them in. I will make sure to let everyone know how they turn out. I have been more than happy with the level of customer service from zach and assuming the lines live up to what they sound like I would recommend him to everyone!
Hey jhriss assuming everything works out with the lines I will definitely sell you my stock lines. I just want to hold on to them for a week to make sure there are no problems with the new lines.
jhriss 03-23-2009, 11:10 AM Alright my man, yeah, Zach wrote me back today too and explained it to me. So you said about $100 to make plus the other oem brake lines and shipping, so around $270 right? I'll pm you my info for your lines, and yeah, good idea to hold on to them for the first week you have your new ss ones installed. Zach says though he pressure tests them at 3500 psi for leaks, so the should be totally good.
Despi 03-23-2009, 01:22 PM I wonder how many ppl would be interested in stainless lines. Assuming they prove to be the quality that the sound like we could talk to Zach about becoming a supporting vendor and setting up a core exchange program.
Despi 03-24-2009, 07:35 AM One of the stock break lines are back ordered. . . going to delay things alittle bit =(
maansy 03-24-2009, 05:23 PM sorry but what is the benefit of changing the break lines?
sorry if this a dumb question
06blackbeast 03-24-2009, 06:47 PM Why did bwoody discontinue theirs?
robpp 03-24-2009, 09:35 PM sorry but what is the benefit of changing the break lines?
sorry if this a dumb question
stainless steel brake lines improve pedal feel and reduce the amount of time between applied pedal pressure and actual deceleration by preventing expansion, which stock rubber flex lines allow. This provides a quicker pedal response, and allows the driver to maintain consistent brake pressure and precision brake modulation. from 'stoptech'
maansy 03-24-2009, 09:39 PM stainless steel brake lines improve pedal feel and reduce the amount of time between applied pedal pressure and actual deceleration by preventing expansion, which stock rubber flex lines allow. This provides a quicker pedal response, and allows the driver to maintain consistent brake pressure and precision brake modulation. from 'stoptech'
thank you very much sir :)
jhriss 03-25-2009, 01:18 PM Spoke with bwoody yesterday,they were doing the same thing that mastertech is doing. What they were doing, and the reason for the $350 plus price, is that they were ordering large quantities of the stock brembo OEM lines from Jeep or the vendor and then sending them to a line shop to take off the connectors and brackets and reman them onto the stainless steel lines they had. This way they matched oem perfectly and they pressure tested to 3500 psi. Bwoody said that mastertech is solid and that is a good way to go for a bit cheapers, although it is more work. You will need to either take of your oem lines and send them to him, and for $100 Zach will reman all parts to ss lines and send them to you. If you don't want to lay your Jeep up for 2 weeks, then order some stock oem lines from ************ or the dealership and have them sent to him and he'll do the same. Then install the ss lines, and probably sell your old oem lines to someone here on the forum who wants ss lines as well and make back some of the money. I think new oem lines are like $150.
All the best,
Jason
Despi 03-25-2009, 02:31 PM If we can show that there is enough ppl that want a set we can approach Zach and have him do a core exchange program where everyone lines up, he gets a set of stockers on his own make a set of stainless and ships to first person on list and that person returns their stock lines to him to reman for the next person, by him eating the cost of the first set of stock he can serve a bunch of us one by one, but we would need to have enough ppl to line up for him to prove it profitable
pepetizon 03-25-2009, 03:28 PM Hey there. Im the guy from Peru. Yep I dealt with Zach form Mastertech too! No problems with the fittings at all! They are great quality SS lines and I do recommend them.
GL!
jhriss 03-28-2009, 11:18 AM Sweeeeet! Sounds good man!
jhriss 04-10-2009, 01:19 PM Dang, so I went ahead and ordered these up from the dealer to send out to Zach at Mastertech, and I have 2 of them in, but one will not be in till May 2 and the other May 5, wtf??? So lame!!! Oh, well, guess I have to wait till then. If you are going to do this, order now, cause they are on back order. I guess Mopar or Chrysler make the lines, and Brembo Calipers are just out sourced with pads and rotors, that's all.
So dang! That is why the stupid lines are rubber. If the whole thing was a Brembo set up, it would have SS braided lines, premium rotors, pads, and Calipers.
Does anyone know if:
Jeep SRT8's Stock brakes us just Brembo Calipers? and the rest of the pads, the rotors, etc. are OEM from Mopar? Or are the pads and rotors also Brembo made?? What pieces of the brake components are Brembo and what is not. Obviously the Calipers since it's painted on it, but I need to know about the rest of the quality of the other parts. My ride has about 400 miles on it only, so I have all original parts for the brakes.
Thanks!!
Despi 04-10-2009, 07:21 PM I am not sure exactly who makes each specific component but the good news is that Zach finally was able to get a full set of stock lines for me and should have shipped out the set of SS ones today. Only bad news is that I am going on vacation so it will be a little while before I can install.
jhriss 04-10-2009, 07:35 PM Dang man, such a long wait. So anyone else no about the other brake components I mentioned in my prior post above?
Dang man, such a long wait. So anyone else no about the other brake components I mentioned in my prior post above?
The pads are made by Bendix. http://www.cherokeesrt8.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23221&highlight=bendix
a96bimmerm3 04-10-2009, 08:11 PM I know I'm new around here but I noticed Carbotech (www.ctbrakes.com) makes pads for the jeep. I have their pads for my mini cooper S and they stop GREAT and helped pedal feel a lot. They also dust FAR less than the stock german pads. I don't know how badly the stock pads dust, my truck isn't here yet. It'll be getting carbotech pads when it arrives though.
Enjoy!
Josh
Muellge 04-10-2009, 08:43 PM I've got a set from BWoody I bought a while back, never put them on because the locator/stabilizer tabs on the block brackets were wrong. Sent them back and they modified them by grinding them off, so now no locator tabs. probably not a big deal, but brand new and never put them on.
Muellge 04-10-2009, 08:44 PM I've got a set from BWoody I bought a while back, never put them on because the locator/stabilizer tabs on the block brackets were wrong. Sent them back and they modified them by grinding them off, so now no locator tabs. probably not a big deal, but brand new and never put them on. 329 bucks in the garage collecting dust.
jhriss 04-10-2009, 09:18 PM So are bendix any good. Looks like they are a partner or subsidiary of Honeywell products, which made my house thermostat system and security system. They don't seem like a car company. Any comments or Ideas. See look at the title bar in the very top bar of browser here.
http://www.power-21.com/BendixPower21i/
which is linked from application look up here.
http://www.bendixbrakes.com/products/frictionPremium.php
So are bendix any good. Looks like they are a partner or subsidiary of Honeywell products, which made my house thermostat system and security system. They don't seem like a car company. Any comments or Ideas. See look at the title bar in the very top bar of browser here.
http://www.power-21.com/BendixPower21i/
which is linked from application look up here.
http://www.bendixbrakes.com/products/frictionPremium.php
Who cares that they are owned by Honeywell? They are just a large company with their hands in everything.
a96bimmerm3 04-11-2009, 07:21 AM Who cares that they are owned by Honeywell? They are just a large company with their hands in everything.
I think they're fine pads. I usually go with companies like porterfield, carbotech, pagid, etc that deal with high performance brakes. You generally get a little more stopping power and better pedal feel but they tend to be slightly noisy on light braking. My $.02, take it for what it is.
jhriss 04-11-2009, 03:05 PM Well they are brand new, as my ride only has 500 miles on it now, and they feel great, so we'll see how they wear and when I get to replacement time, we'll see. I was just wondering if it is worth it to change them out for a high performance pad when I install the stainless brake lines cause the system has to be bled front and back. If anyone has some suggestions for pads all around that are better than the bendix/jurad, as in higher stopping power, lower or same dusting amount, and very quiet, just let me know and I'll look into getting a set.
Thanks,
Jason
a96bimmerm3 04-11-2009, 03:07 PM Well they are brand new, as my ride only has 500 miles on it now, and they feel great, so we'll see how they wear and when I get to replacement time, we'll see. I was just wondering if it is worth it to change them out for a high performance pad when I install the stainless brake lines cause the system has to be bled front and back. If anyone has some suggestions for pads all around that are better than the bendix/jurad, as in higher stopping power, lower or same dusting amount, and very quiet, just let me know and I'll look into getting a set.
Thanks,
Jason
On most any higher performing pad you're always going to have a drawback. I think you'll be fine on the bendix pads. My carbotechs make noise on light braking, I'm fine with it but you might not be. A lot of the racier pads do it.
jhriss 04-11-2009, 03:59 PM Alright man, sounds good, I'll just stick with OEM for now. Weird though they are loud, I have some Hawk HPS kevlar/ceramic on my M3 and they are silent and low dust, and very good bite.
a96bimmerm3 04-11-2009, 08:51 PM Alright man, sounds good, I'll just stick with OEM for now. Weird though they are loud, I have some Hawk HPS kevlar/ceramic on my M3 and they are silent and low dust, and very good bite.
The HPS ceramics are a bit less racy than the pads I'm used to now. I'm going to try the carbotechs on the jeep, I'll make sure to report my results on here, but as far as a solid drop in replacement, cant go wrong with bendix or hawk.
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