Grand Cherokee SRT-8..." - Car and Driver March 2007 Issue in reviewing the $133,285 Porsche Cayenne Turbo S. Gotta Love It :)

Grand Cherokee SRT-8..." - Car and Driver March 2007 Issue in reviewing the $133,285 Porsche Cayenne Turbo S. Gotta Love It :)

Yeah, that was better than the Hennessey test.

Alex

Hahah now this makes me GRIN from ear to ear

Yeah, that was better than the Hennessey test.

Alex


Did it blow up! JH's tests always end with a bang!

Did it blow up! JH's tests always end with a bang!

They fried the torque converter.

Alex

haha ive showed that article to about 30 people this weekend

Grand Cherokee SRT-8..." - Car and Driver March 2007 Issue in reviewing the $133,285 Porsche Cayenne Turbo S. Gotta Love It :)

Can you scan that article and post it here?

Can you scan that article and post it here?

I will when I get home

Yes indeed, Porsche engineers should be embarassed, right along with the designers who came up with the pathetic styling. Toss in pathetic reliability and you have a $133k POS.

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k95/cumadogg/scan0001.jpg

The 2008 CY Turbo (500hp).

http://www.autoweek.nl/images/800/c/79a82ac13a5e2d805a90a2138d38c8dc.jpg

http://www.autoweek.nl/images/800/4/31575de01a72edaee0968be4ebef4854.jpg

Owners of the SRT8, Turbo S, and ML63 all complain about sluggish transmissions. What is the correlation with fast SUV's and slow transmissions?

I must say, however, I am extremely impressed with the new TCM reflash.

All I can say is I love my GCSRT8........................ !!

Classic....King of the hill at less than 1/3rd the cost.

I really hate when people refer to the GC SRT8 as a POS (usually owners of higher end cars and GM products). The Cayenne Turbo S is not a POS. Yes it is super expensive. However, it has an amazing off road capability for such a fast vehicle. Let us not forget the quality of materials used in the interior and throughout the vehicle. Yes... we could probably do a ton of things to our GC SRT8 to make up some of the differences for far cheaper....but it still doesn't make the Turbo S a POS.

Tom

I really hate when people refer to the GC SRT8 as a POS (usually owners of higher end cars and GM products). The Cayenne Turbo S is not a POS. Yes it is super expensive. However, it has an amazing off road capability for such a fast vehicle. Let us not forget the quality of materials used in the interior and throughout the vehicle. Yes... we could probably do a ton of things to our GC SRT8 to make up some of the differences for far cheaper....but it still doesn't make the Turbo S a POS.

Tom
You're right. The CayTT S is an amazing SUV. Interior is absolutely gorgeous & plush. The suspension is a work of art and the engine is pretty awesome for putting out 520hp's.
The rear end, I think, is pretty nice looking, but the front end is just so gay and dainty - like a castrated bull (steer?). Even if I had the $$$ to throw away, I don't think I'd buy one. Its stigma of "got it just to prove a status symbol" make me not want to be seen driving one. For $20k more I'd get the Ford GT:D

I just love the look of the GCSRT-8, and knowing it owns the SUV road is just gravy. I also like the look of the RR sport - classic tough.

I just love the look of the GCSRT-8, and knowing it owns the SUV road is just gravy.

The ML63 is the fastest SUV out there.

The ML63 is the fastest SUV out there.


Were not too far behind... Give us some tuning with our mods and we'll own that ML63.

The ML63 and Cayenne Turbo are gorgeous SUV's in my mind. However, for the price the SRT-8 GC just can't be beat!

The ML63 is the fastest SUV out there.

Not 0-60 or the 1/4 :D

I believe there is a video on YouTube that shows it getting beat from a dig.

EDIT: Here's the video

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ESqKk2tPUX0

The ML63 is the fastest SUV out there.
Do you have any proof to this?

The Motor Trend/Car & Driver specs I'm seeing put the Jeep first:

Jeep HP: 420
MP HP: 503

Jeep TQ: 420
MB TQ: 465

But....

Jeep curb weight: 4819lbs
MB curb weight: 5093lbs

Jeep 0-60: 4.8
MB 0-60: 5.0

Jeep Top Speed: 163 attained by a fellow member
MB Top Speed: 155 electronically limited

Granted these are magazine tests, so all the drivers are equally as bad.

The Jeep SRT's true HP is probably closer to 465.

The ML63 is the fastest SUV out there.

Incorrect.

Mr. Dredd, do you care to chime in?

The Jeep SRT's true HP is probably closer to 465.

I've wondered about that.

The 2008 CY Turbo (500hp).\

http://www.autoweek.nl/images/800/4/31575de01a72edaee0968be4ebef4854.jpg

Is it me or does the front shot of this look like a cross between a Subaru and a Hyundai?

HoustonSRT8:

Not sure where you are getting your test figures from. let's compare apples to apples:

Car & Driver:

ML63:
0-60: 4.6
0-100: 11.6
1/4 mile: 13.2 @ 108mph

GC SRT8:
0-60: 4.5
0-100: 12.0
1/4 mile: 13.2 @ 104mph

Road & Track:

ML63:
0-60: 4.5
0-100: 11.2
1/4 mile: 13.0 @ 108.0mph

GC SRT8:
0-60: 4.6
0-100: 11.9 (published time in Road Test Review, not in article)
1/4 mile: 13.2 @ 104.1mph

Inside line (Edmunds) also tested the Ml63 to be slightly faster than GC SRT8.

I think in a 0-60 race..it is pretty much a dead heat. The ML63 doesn't come into its own until near the end of the 1/4 mile. Obviously when you factor $'s for performance...the GC SRT8 is King.

Tom

HoustonSRT8:

Not sure where you are getting your test figures from.


I think in a 0-60 race..it is pretty much a dead heat. The ML63 doesn't come into its own until near the end of the 1/4 mile. Obviously when you factor $'s for performance...the GC SRT8 is King.

Tom

I know the 0-60 times seemed pretty slow, but I got the figures from Motor Trend & Car & Driver online reviews? I figured they were equally as bad, so comparable.

The ML63 may be starting to pass at the end of the ¼, but the Jeep will fly by again when the ML hits a wall at 155. ;)

Is it me or does the front shot of this look like a cross between a Subaru and a Hyundai?
yeah looks like a new outback raped a sante fe

Look-- our car (the Jeep) and the Porsche and the MB are all fast SUVs, but beyond that, I dont' think they are really comprable to one another. They are different classes all together. All very nice for what they offer. It just so happens that the name Porsche commands a much larger tag than Jeep does. To add to that, the materials, components and craftsmanship are better with MB and Porsche than they are with Jeep. Period.

Yes, we're faster. Yes, we're a 1/3 the price. So what? Does that mean your dingaling is bigger too? LOL

So what? Does that mean your dingaling is bigger too? LOL

Yes it does. :p

Hahaha.... I kinda figured. If spending 40-50K on a fast SUV to minimally compensate, then spending thrice that ammount (I love using 'thrice') must mean their dipsticks are thrice as short?

Exactly. I believe it was Socrates that first pointed out that Porsche owners were poorly endowed. Now mind you, that's not MY opinion. I'm just citing Socrates.

Or as Bill and Ted would call him..... So Crates :)

I will take 3 jeeps for the price of the Porsche Turbo 3...will use 2 of them to box him in, and one just to drive in circles and laugh!

I agree, all are great vehciles, and 2 of them are quite a bit nicer on the inside. Then again, at night time, I really can't tell.

Let's do this from another route. If you were offered the Porsche, the MB, or the Jeep, at NO COST..... just handed the keys, which do you take?

For me, it's a no brainer. The Porsche. I like the styling of it, but I guess that makes me a gay suv-lover.

Let's do this from another route. If you were offered the Porsche, the MB, or the Jeep, at NO COST..... just handed the keys, which do you take?

For me, it's a no brainer. The Porsche. I like the styling of it, but I guess that makes me a gay suv-lover.

I would take the Porsche also, but do I have to be gay?

I dunno-- you gotta ask the guy on an earlier page that said the porsche looked 'gay'. LOL

IMO, the jeep looks most aggressive. in terms of pure looks, the order would be Jeep, MB, then Cayenne. But yes, given the choice among the 3, at no cost, I'd probably cave in and take the Cayenne, for... sorry to say...prestige and more luxurious interior. Come on, lets be truthful. if someone asks you what you're driving, wouldn't it sound a lot better rolling off your tongue when you say, "I drive a Porsche" ?? Sad...but true :). Until I have the $$$ to afford it, I'm still riding the GC SRT8 bandwagon.

... Let us not forget the quality of materials used in the interior and throughout the vehicle...
Cayenne owners will never forget about the quality of materials throughout the vehicle, they are reminded of that as they regularly take their vehicle in for repairs. The Cayenne is one of the most unreliable SUVs on the market, so bad that it alone brought Porsche's overall rankings to the bottom of the list. That, in my opinion is enough to refer to it as a "POS". A vehicle that is so grossly overpriced should not have the issues it has had.

HOW are "components" better if they break all the time? What about all the complaints about driver seat comfort? And how about the driver seat frames that had to be recalled because of bad welds? Did I mention cracked transfer cases or all of the electrical issues that the Cayenne has had? THIS is the "quality" that one gets for over $100K? No thanks.

...I like the styling of it, but I guess that makes me a gay suv-lover.
Not necessarily, but it does make you one of only two people who like its styling - you and the original designer.

Not necessarily, but it does make you one of only two people who like its styling - you and the original designer.

Your post reminds me of one of my favorite quotes: "85.6% of all stats are made up".

Nice going :rolleyes:

The Jeep SRT's true HP is probably closer to 465.

About 336 awhp. :cool:

You guys were talking about the ML63 as being fast. What about the AMG version? I thought it was supposed to be THE fastest SUV.

You guys were talking about the ML63 as being fast. What about the AMG version? I thought it was supposed to be THE fastest SUV.The ML63 IS the AMG version. There is no ML63, "non AMG".

Correct-- the 63 is the AMG.

Let's do this from another route. If you were offered the Porsche, the MB, or the Jeep, at NO COST..... just handed the keys, which do you take?

For me, it's a no brainer. The Porsche. I like the styling of it, but I guess that makes me a gay suv-lover.

No, just a small dip-stick ;)

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:D Gotcha!

LOL-- nice :)

The ML starts at 86k and that doesn't include much. They advertise 0-60 in 4.8 on their site.

Man, all I have is b&b catback and Volant and I wasted My friend Shawns Cayenne Turbo he was so mad he spent like $5k on a re-flash invited me back up to his shop and I banged his ass again...My Business partner has an ML 63 and before I got the catback I would beat him to 100mph by a car or so but after that he would start reeling me in!!! I put on the Volant and the B&B and now his ass is toast all the way to 140mph...He's modding mad now too...he don't know I have a Stall and h/c from Fast Matt coming...Poor Guy!!! I've raced 3 other JGCsrt 8 stock and I kill them...2 06's and one early release 07...They don't like me anymore!!!

hmmm.....

making me think about getting the B&B again.
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Well if I was gonna be given one and had to choose from the three I would take the porsche, sell it get a GC stroke it and turbo it and probably get the interior redone.

I want a Porsche as well.........just not that Porsche. ;)

Let's do this from another route. If you were offered the Porsche, the MB, or the Jeep, at NO COST..... just handed the keys, which do you take?

For me, it's a no brainer. The Porsche. I like the styling of it, but I guess that makes me a gay suv-lover.
the benz

im not hot on the styling of either but i prefer the benzs displacement and speed advantage. cayenne is also notoriously unreliable.

i think if the porsche was offered at ~75k it wouldn't be so ridiculous that its slower than the jeep. that said though, porsche is the sports car manufacturer here so they really should sell a cayenne that is definitively quicker than any other sport suv

I want a Porsche as well.........just not that Porsche. ;)

Yup. I agree.

http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/05/gt3rs07.jpg

Alex

Agreed...time slips are nice, but one of many characteristics that make a vehicle desirable. Personally, I have a relatively very inexpensive heavily modded F body, and mildly modded Gen III viper. At the track, it is splitting hairs, with the edge slightly to the F body. But from the drivers seat they are as different as day and night. I love them both but differently.

Slightly off topic, I can't see spending 90K+ on an SUV. As soon as I hear that number, I start to think Viper, Modded Zo6, etc....not Cayenne (brethren to the VW Tourag and Audi Q7....ummm...yuck comes to mind).

Agreed...time slips are nice, but one of many characteristics that make a vehicle desirable. Personally, I have a relatively very inexpensive heavily modded F body, and mildly modded Gen III viper. At the track, it is splitting hairs, with the edge slightly to the F body. But from the drivers seat they are as different as day and night. I love them both but differently.

Slightly off topic, I can't see spending 90K+ on an SUV. As soon as I hear that number, I start to think Viper, Modded Zo6, etc....not Cayenne (brethren to the VW Tourag and Audi Q7....ummm...yuck comes to mind).

I agree. I want a $133k exotic CAR to play with. The RR Sport S/C is the only SUV I'd probably pay that kind of $$$ for. The ML63/CAYTT are too crossoverishy(??) for me.

BTW, just because someone owns a Caytt, doesn't mean their gay. I want to make that clear. For example, as Dave Chappelle said, if I put on a police uniform it doesn't mean I'm a police office....but I look the part;)

Chappelle is pulling a double entendre' there (his point is that if you look the part, you probably are....but if you aren't, you are even more messed up). That aside, I don't personally think that these vehicles make the owner seem gay...more like a bit stupid when they could have a better vehicle (that's right, I said better, not "as good") for 1/3rd of the price in the form of a GCSRT8.

lol. Interpret as you wish.

Chappelle rocks. Did someone say Doo Doo Butter? lol

His Gary Coleman is my fav.

My friend Shawns Cayenne Turbo he was so mad he spent like $5k on a re-flash invited me back up to his shop and I banged his ass again...

This statement seems to add wieght to the theory that Cayenne owners are gay. I mean sheesh, he let him do it twice at the shop:D :D

LOL-- you may be right.... the tail end (no bun intended) of his statement just doesn't sound right.

You're right cause I told him he was gay when he bought the Cayenne which was the same statement I made to my business partner before he paid all that $ for that ugly ass ML... They both are label whores and are trust a farians (Trust fund kids)...I'm not gay personally...Im in rehab:D Now Get Out There Bang Some Cayenne...ML Ass,It is so stimulating!!!
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This statement seems to add wieght to the theory that Cayenne owners are gay. I mean sheesh, he let him do it twice at the shop:D :D

I wasn't sure if I had read that right :confused:. I was hoping someone would comment there. I just didn't have it in me. Too funny!

I just didn't have it in me.

Apparently, he did. :eek:

Apparently, he did. :eek:

Not once, but TWICE!!

oh my...... what have I started?
:eek:

"CUM a DOGG"y style
The name isnt helping either:D

http://forums.seriouszone.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15421&stc=1&d=1073367453

... trust a farians (Trust fund kids)...

That's now my new favorite thing to call trust funders. Thanks. It replaces "lucky pricks" in my vocabulary.