: Did the in motion nav hack
dbrisson 01-27-2007, 03:57 PM Completed the in motion nav hack per this thread. Works great. Used imgburn to create the file, a sony dvd burner and hp dl dvds. Tested and it allows you to change the location while moving.
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ccbatson 01-27-2007, 09:49 PM You should be proud...does it work from an ICU bed at the local trauma hospital?
SilverSRT-8 01-27-2007, 10:13 PM it is for the wife to enter destination while you drive. No need for hospital beds. :)
rutiger 01-27-2007, 10:16 PM you should start a campaign and go after all nav equip makers and auto makers that do allow input into their units while in motion. get over it dude.
since hacking mine i have used it while in motion although i try to limit that usage and have only done it a few times. however, i have had the wife and friends use it a lot while i'm driving and it's nice to not have to exit the freeway or pull over on the shoulder to enter an address. i'd rather take my chances using the nav while driving than sit on the freeway shoulder.
Fastest H-Town Realtor 01-27-2007, 10:41 PM You should be proud...does it work from an ICU bed at the local trauma hospital?
Seeing that people usually comment based on personal experience, I feel secure in the fact that you live/drive nowhere near me. Perhaps you could petition to have radios,drinks and phones illegal to have inside a moving vehicle. Of course attractive co-pilots could be next....:rolleyes:
ccbatson 01-27-2007, 10:47 PM Umm, no need to go after the manufacturers and installers, it has already been done, hence the laws prohibiting full input capability while in motion. You can only "go after" law breakers.
If we were dealing with responsible adults with some intelligence and common sense (sadly, you have volunteered to demonstrate that we are not), there would be no need for this discussion at all. Similarly, it is not me bringing up this topic, which, ostensibly, is asking how to break the law (or at least the intent of it).
"Get over it"?? Tell that to the person unecessarily involved in a crash (call them innocent victims) with a severe head injury, or worse. Also explain your position to their loved ones, and the public that has to pay for the care of these unfortunate souls (for the rest of their lives) because of your lack of judgement.
Street WK 01-27-2007, 10:50 PM ^ HAHAHA. I have 4 TV's in the front seat... 2 sunvisor's, 1 rear view mirror and 1 in-dash. No problems here.
Maybe you should learn how to drive?
ccbatson 01-27-2007, 10:56 PM You forgot to brag about how much alcohol you drink while driving, where you store your loaded weapons near young children, and how proud you are of your 3rd grade education....funny guy.
rutiger 01-27-2007, 11:28 PM you can save the speech. i almost lost my wife a few years back to a bad accident when she was riding with a friend. head injury, many broken bones, internal organ damage, ~60 day coma, some permanent things such as memory loss, speech issues, and balance still bother her. guess what no cell phones or nav were in the picture just bad drivers.
do you also post in the performance section berating people for making their vehicles more powerful which in turn means they will speed putting people at risk?
well, it's time for me to go drink and play with firearms because that's what i learned in 3rd grade.
ccbatson 01-27-2007, 11:35 PM Drinking (nonalcoholic beverages, of course), listening to a radio, talking on a telephone (not dialing) and having an atractive person in the passenger seat have one thing in common....they do not require taking your eyes off of the road while you are in motion. Interacting with the Navigation system does require interrupting visual attention and is therefore limited or prohibited while in motion.
Is this a difficult concept for you negative responders? Why can't you get it? You must be older than 16 (if licensed to drive), have some money, and therefore be gainfully employed (unless very lucky/priviledged), and have some rudimentary intelligence (to pass the drivers test, and use a computer)....so what is missing here....JUDGEMENT methinks, get some, please, before you hurt someone.
"People usually comment based on personal experience, etc..." Sorry, that makes no sense at all (and it is not even common sense, which I would give you a pass on, as you are clearly sorely lacking). Although I am very glad not to be driving near the likes of you as well, so there we agree, but for very different reasons.
Come on people, face it, this is a bad idea, let's leave it off of the forums to leave room for the good stuff.
ccbatson 01-27-2007, 11:49 PM I am very sorry to hear of your wifes' misfortune, but glad to know she is recovered a great deal. Sadly, many with severe brain injuries (Rancho 3-5) never regain what was lost, even more so with complete spinal cord injuries.
Your logic is tragically flawed. Many people suffer various diseases for many reasons. For instance, ischemic strokes....We know that there is no guarantee of protection from this possibility, but we also know that there are reversible and nonreversible risk factors. Just because a thin, fit, nonsmoking individual suffers a stroke, doesn't mean that it is a good idea to throw caution to the wind and invite the problem by ignoring the reversible causes. Likewise, just because car crashes (a better word than accident) occur for reasons other than bad judgement on the part of the driver (watching movies, playing with the navigation system, etc), doesn't make it a good idea to do these things.
I can't believe I am having this argument, my 7 year old could understand this stuff better than some of you folks seem to. Wake up, and use your heads people.
ccbatson 01-27-2007, 11:59 PM Oh, and lastly, more powerful vehicles (clearly, we are all interested in this participating on this forum), does not necessarily lead to speeding. In fact, a recent study suggest that drivers of higher performance vehicles have statistically significantly less speeding violations and accidents than average. Why? The theory is that they are better educated, more experienced, and exercise better judgement than the average driver.
Having a few powerful vehicles myself (03 viper, 02 ZO6, 06 GCSRT8, 71 LS5 corvette, 99 Camaro SS...with various mods), as well as many friends with them, I can attest to this phenomenon with a clean driving record, no crashes with injuries (and none at all other than 3 fender benders on icy roads more than 15 years ago...one with another vehicle, 2 with inanimate objects at low speeds). When the rare occasion of exercising the vehicles abilities comes up it is at the track, or within the posted laws.
silversrt 01-28-2007, 12:58 AM Without taking sides on the Nav issue, I think its your "Self-Righteous" delivery that is causing the argument.If you dont agree with the masses, keep it to yourself.We are all adults and you are not going to succeed by forcing your opinion down persons throats, so to speak.You say "get over it".Perhaps you should as well.You may have some valid points, but the internet is not the place to judge others sight unseen.Thanks for your time.:D
HulkSmash 01-28-2007, 01:23 AM I’m curious; you very authoritatively reference "laws prohibiting full input capability while in motion", however I have been unable to locate any evidence that such a law actually exists. Did you make this up? Accusing these people of breaking the law certainly strengthens your argument and reinforces your position of moral superiority. So please, what law regulates this? I would like to read it for myself.
ResumeSpeed 01-28-2007, 04:43 AM ... Come on people, face it, this is a bad idea, let's leave it off of the forums to leave room for the good stuff.
A bad idea?? Maybe they should ban front seat passengers, they can cause a lot of distraction too for drivers.
For me the hack has been great. It's nice to be able to enter a destination in at anytime during a roadtrip, restaurant, hotel, whatever. The co-pilot (wife) does all of the data entry, she now knows the unit better than I do. It was always a pain to have to pull over to the side of the road, and even more dangerous, I was always trying to quickly enter data myself between stoplights. After the hack I taught the wife how to use the nav and as mentioned she now does all of the mapping.
AlexT 01-28-2007, 05:23 AM CC, I'm loving your self-righteous, know-it-all tone.
I'm hoping you can appreciate my choice to exercise my own judgment, without you or someone else telling me what I should or shouldn't do. Because in a way, my freedom to make choices (even choices you don't agree with) helps to protect your own ability to make choices.
You appear smart enough to understand what a slippery slope this is. The same group-think that decides that the masses aren't smart enough to exercise prudent judgment in operating a GPS without an electronic nanny, could also determine that we humans aren't prudent enough to operate cars with more than 200HP or whatever other silliness they choose to come up with. What happens then? You no longer have the personal choice to own the kinds of performance cars you've been lucky enough to have.
One final point. You've made your position redundantly clear. Is your intent to repeat it each and every time someone posts something about the nav hack or video input? If so, maybe you could help me find the ignore feature on this board.
Alex
MatFab 01-28-2007, 06:44 AM i'm gonna be pissed when he tries to ban road-head.....
Z-Love 01-28-2007, 08:07 AM i'm gonna be pissed when he tries to ban road-head.....
:D -- Does anyone know of a hack that's out there to get the co-pilot(wife) to do that more often?
dbrisson 01-28-2007, 08:41 AM You should be proud...does it work from an ICU bed at the local trauma hospital? I' m betting on the airbags and larger truck frame to prevent that.
Silent disagreement would have allowed you to keep your distorted thinking to yourself, statements prove who are in fact incapable of coherence in thought and function.
The most predominate reason for the mod is for the passenger to enter coordinates while on the fly rather than wait. Could you wait a few minutes more in the lot yes, but today we all want instant gratification. I purchased a fast SUV so I can speed, I hacked the nav so I don't have to wait. At least the hands free keeps my eyes on the road but not my thoughts, email will still be hard to handle. ( we want everything today, going to start the cars up now to help get global warming here faster, want summer now)
This is a distraction we can choose to use, whenever the pilot feels it is safe, just having the capability does not mean it will be used at 70mph, in a 55 while it tight quarters with other cars. It is the driver's choices and situation that make that decision.
Since this logic has been missed have fun continuing your crusade against distractions, and don't forget there are many items in your trtuck that can send you to the hospital, use them safely.
Some people should past a test before they speak, since as the comedian said, "you can't fix stupid."
#$%^!@$ &*(*)
Come on people, face it, this is a bad idea, let's leave it off of the forums to leave room for the good stuff.
So what is good stuff, who determines worth? All of the "good stuff" has the possibility of resulting in more speed or mass at impact with less reaction time due to distance covered, so are performace mods good or bad stuff? Appearance mods with the intent of distracting other drivers can lead to secondary accidents as other less focused drivers divert their attention to the flashy GCSRT8, again good or bad. I hope the internet is not filling up too fast, I would hate for something great and viable to be left off because the internet was FULL.
TXBLU 01-28-2007, 11:28 AM Live and let live, I say. I do what I think is best for me and mine. I try to treat poeple as I would like to be treated. If I am wronged, I seek correction. If I have an opinion that is contrary to someone else's, I keep it to myself, unless I am asked what my opinion is. In that case, I state it clearly and without malice (hopefully). Here, I make a notable exception. My opinion:
I just think that we should all be considerate of other peoples' opinions and respectful of other peoples' choices. If it it something that puts them in harm's way, so be it. If it harms someone else, they should have to answer for that. The theory of punishment being a deterent for crimes is what keeps most of us from harm caused by the wreckless, semseless, or malicious behavior of others (think speeding, drunken driving, discharging of firearms within city limits, murder, etc...).
All that being said, my BMW 645Ci has a nav system that I can, and routinely do, program while in motion. So far, I have not caused any harm to any person or any property due to operating the nav system while driving. I use a Garmin 356C on one of my motorcycles for navigation while in motion, and have had no issues there.
Conversely, I have had friends get into accidents while eating McDonald's french fries, ministering to a crying baby in a rear car seat, applying makeup, one while reading a newspaper, and a few because they were simply driving faster than their, and/or their vericles' capabilities.
It's all about choice, and making the right choices for yourself and your abilities. Some people can't master a manual transmission. Some can't parallel park. And others can't chew gum and walk at the same time. Know your personal limits and don't excede them. But, just because someone else can't program a nav unit and drive safely at the same time, does not mean that everyone lacks that ability as well. If we all had equal skills and intelligence, things would be very different.
As Dirty Harry once said; "a man has got to know his limitations". (women, too!! :p )
kramsay1234 01-28-2007, 11:58 AM I wouold have just used 4 letters, but the thread won't let me so here they are:
NICE
cademyster 01-28-2007, 12:12 PM SO... Anyone here who has done the fix want to do it again for a computer illeterate (AKA: Macowner) member? If so, PM me!!!! Thanx
ccbatson 01-28-2007, 12:32 PM Liberty?? Emphatically yes!!! Reckless stupidity endangering others...Absolutely not. Its' called the rule of law, and it is the basis of our free society. If someone is stupid enough to make self destructive decisions...have at it, in fact, by natural selection, I encourage it, that way we will be left with more fit and successful members of our society. You naysayers are just upset that someone has the courage to call you out for your stupidity...sorry if that bruises your fragile egos, but live with it. Freedom of speech allows us all to voice our opinions but doesn't protect you from the consequences of your actions...in this case being made to confront your own ignorance. I am doing you a favor, your just not enlightened enough to understand that, what a shame.
dbrisson 01-28-2007, 12:40 PM You are not doing any favors, you are not protecting anyone.
There are navs that allow changes in motion DCX must have removed it from a liability standpoint.
YOU are not more fit than others becuase you came up with this angle.
The "we" left from natural selection will proably will not include you since common sense is not within you grasp.
This is an internet web forum you have no more courage than anyone else.
ccbatson 01-28-2007, 12:50 PM Yes, they do allow limited one touch navigation inputs while in motion. You hit the nail on the head....liability prohibits the manufacturers from offering full functionality. Well, what does that mean? That there is compelling evidence that people will be injured or killed as a result of it, and they don't want to be reponsible for the potential costs...makes sense, right? You would selfishly bypass this common sense principle by hacking the system (the phrase itself is incriminating, no?). Now who ends up accepting the reponsibility? The insurance buying public and the taxpayers....that means me (and all individuals). What makes you think you have the right to shift the burden of your stupidity on me....That, in a nutshell, is anti liberty and individual choice (not the opposite as you suggest), and why we have laws...to protect individual freedom.
MjrCarNut 01-28-2007, 12:52 PM Back to the subject!! again, Cool mod for those whom want that feature, and as for myself I also would like to do this when I get mined. My wife will also be doing all the mapping and so on, We all no it is dangerous to do it while driving but Nobody on here can say they are the perfect saint when driving and dont break some kind of safety law.
This is one reason why I love where I live and gives people a means of saying what they feel, but If someone chooses to use this Mod/Feature then the more power to them and If you do not choose to use it then More power to you that is your choice....
Its a cool mod for many and not for some so If you dont like the Mod then just move on and let everyone else share..
When I get mine I'll be checking back to get this mod!!! Nice goin!:D
ccbatson 01-28-2007, 01:03 PM Every cheap excuse.....Of course nobody is perfect, but the ideals that we aspire to are. Imperfection is no excuse for a lack of effort and proper intentions.
dbrisson 01-28-2007, 01:09 PM Not all liability shifts are for the public good, why are you not smart enough to understand that.
They benefit the company in protection from frivilous suits.
Laws do not neccessarily benefit the common person in manners of safety or freedoms.
Show us the study that in motion changes are more costly in terms of liabilities or accident involvement.
You are arguing semantics, especially the definition of hacking. Give us a break and go back to the hole where you came from.
The burden of stupidity shifts to you since you do not have the common sense to understand your chastizing of the people performing a mod is argumentative, unwanted, and not based on any real facts or data. Using Lexis Nexus I could not find any exisiting laws prohibiting navigation changes or lawsuits from that standpoint.
You are attempting to use free speech as a manner to provoke, and in a person to person meeting there actually is a law against that.
Again you argument against this modification can be applied to everything else in reference to the vehicles you own.
Do you really need a car that can go that fast?
Are the people in performance cars any more capable than others in slower more mundane autos?
ccbatson 01-28-2007, 01:22 PM Need a car that goes that fast??? Would you like to retract that question? Need?? In order to live, I need to breath, eat, etc....but I don't "need" to live...so that question doesn't warrant answering.
I am provoking what? Did I start this thread/propose this idea? If someone proposes that a crime be committed (let's say murder), is it provocative to rigorously express the opinion that contradicts that?
You just don't know when your beat, so I will tell you...you are beat, give it up, be a man, take your lumps, and stop trying to justify the unjustifiable, you are wasting good air.
dbrisson 01-28-2007, 01:23 PM Do not pride your self on being special since you decided to tell someone its a bad idea.
You have removed all doubt of the ability to interact with people. I am going to stretch to the fact you are not a team player and have had problems with people of of your life
You have not beaten anyone except to death with ludicrous views and angles. If it makes you feel smarter or more educated have fun, I am sure many would be able to match degrees or whatever you propose as an education marker with you.
I may be wasting electrons, but the air is perfectly fine, it will go through an exhaust sooner or later.
AlexT 01-28-2007, 01:35 PM Need a car that goes that fast??? Would you like to retract that question? Need?? In order to live, I need to breath, eat, etc....but I don't "need" to live...so that question doesn't warrant answering.
I am provoking what? Did I start this thread/propose this idea? If someone proposes that a crime be committed (let's say murder), is it provocative to rigorously express the opinion that contradicts that?
You just don't know when your beat, so I will tell you...you are beat, give it up, be a man, take your lumps, and stop trying to justify the unjustifiable, you are wasting good air.
We get your point. Thanks for the feedback. Now, do you intend to repeat this constantly? If so, someone please help me find the Ignore button on this forum.
Alex
dbrisson 01-28-2007, 01:36 PM The real question on both threads is what have you accomplished?
Am I or anyone going to run out and reverse the mod because one person explicitly points out is a bad idea.
Have any of you points actually shown any merit other than to try and prove a mental superiority complex?
If your tax burden actually did get greater because of these mods does anyone really care?
ccbatson 01-28-2007, 05:10 PM You are right...point made. For future, maybe this will give you pause when next considering posting a question on how to endanger peoples lives. Oh...by the way, I use the personal pronoun "I, or me" metaphorically to mean all of us as individuals. Have you looked at your tax burden, and insurance premiums lately? Do you want anything that might make them any higher? and don't forget one minor detail, that is that it could get you killed if you were in the other vehicle getting creamed by the distracted driver in question.
MatFab 01-28-2007, 05:14 PM You are right...point made. For future, maybe this will give you pause when next considering posting a question on how to endanger peoples lives.
does this mean no more top speed threads... damn people can have no fun anymore...
ccbatson 01-28-2007, 05:16 PM Nobody in their right mind is attempting top speed on public roads (G-d, I hope not). But it is a blast on a track.
AlexT 01-28-2007, 05:23 PM You are right...point made. For future, maybe this will give you pause when next considering posting a question on how to endanger peoples lives. Oh...by the way, I use the personal pronoun "I, or me" metaphorically to mean all of us as individuals. Have you looked at your tax burden, and insurance premiums lately? Do you want anything that might make them any higher? and don't forget one minor detail, that is that it could get you killed if you were in the other vehicle getting creamed by the distracted driver in question.
I think EVERYONE understands how you feel. So are you done? Or do we get to listen to your evangelizing every time someone posts something that doesn't fit your definition of what is not safe?
Luckily, our society has allowed you to make choices about the cars you drive (very nice, btw) and the things you do to them. Why not offer the same respect to others, whether you agree or disagree?
On the other hand, if you're going to be some self-appointed hall monitor, I REALLY need to find this forum's ignore button. :p
Alex
ccbatson 01-28-2007, 05:36 PM Point taken and agreed....so long as you don't endanger others, have a blast.
AlexT 01-28-2007, 05:41 PM so long as you don't endanger others, have a blast.
:thumbsup:
I'll tell that to the wifey as she programs the hacked nav from the pax seat. ;)
EDIT - oh, and ccbatson, should you decide you want a hack dvd so your passenger can do the same, shoot me a pm. :p
Alex
ccbatson 01-28-2007, 07:17 PM Just don't hold your breath...unless you really want to, since it would only endanger you, I have no real objection (HaHa). It is not luck that our society allows individuals freedom of choice (of what cars to drive, to use your example), it is the blood of our American forefathers (and mothers) that made this the best country/society the world has ever known (not perfect, but the best..by far).
AlexT 01-28-2007, 07:20 PM Just don't hold your breath...unless you really want to, since it would only endanger you, I have no real objection (HaHa). It is not luck that our society allows individuals freedom of choice (of what cars to drive, to use your example), it is the blood of our American forefathers (and mothers) that made this the best country/society the world has ever known (not perfect, but the best..by far).
The luck I was referring to is our luck to be able to benefit from it the efforts of others.
And I agree 100% with you about the blood of our foreparents. Which is why the big brother attitude got the better of me.
Alex
propedderkustoms 01-28-2007, 07:20 PM I did this and I love it...makes it so nice and easy to change nav in LA traffic.
ccbatson 01-28-2007, 07:33 PM It isn't just black and white when it comes to freedoms....per the constitution, personal freedoms are the foremost concern until, or unless they infringe on others individual freedoms (life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness). It is not big brotherish to call someone out when they cross that line. Otherwise, if it has no impact on anyone but the individual, then it is nobodies' business to intercede...if that were the case, then big brother it is (and needs to be eliminated immediately). Mind you, this is a public venue and anyone should have the right to express their opinion and it is not big brotherish unless it is an entity with ability/authority (improperly exercised in the case of the Orwellian big brother paradigm) to take action monitoring an interceding in matters of individual freedoms.
OurZoo 01-28-2007, 07:41 PM I'm getting one for the GC and one for the Charger. They should be in the mail tomorra!
rutiger 01-28-2007, 07:43 PM I'm getting one for the GC and one for the Charger. They should be in the mail tomorra!
yes they will ;)
btw, i can't believe this thread is still alive. after my few posts i realized i was wasting my time.
Fastest H-Town Realtor 01-28-2007, 08:38 PM yes they will ;)
btw, i can't believe this thread is still alive. after my few posts i realized i was wasting my time.
Yup-We all one of those "Always right, know it all" people. Hence the topic being lost and one poster having to battle the other posters here...Sad part is that i understand his point. It just gets lost in the slegehammer delivery.
ccbatson 01-28-2007, 09:07 PM Seriously, I am very happy if you truly get the point. That makes it all worth it, really.
AlexT 01-28-2007, 09:10 PM Seriously, I am very happy if you truly get the point. That makes it all worth it, really.
Well, awfully magnanimous of you to contribute your time towards making us better people. :rolleyes:
Alex
OurZoo 01-28-2007, 09:22 PM Thanks Ryan!
Krush 01-28-2007, 10:11 PM Note that this is for the AE disc guys (disc ID "05064033AE"), so if you have an old nav disc (like I did) the patch might not work. I'm not going to post a link but there's a torrent floating around for the new disc, you just have to snarf-it out on your own. :)
ccbatson 01-28-2007, 10:18 PM Making someone a better person is a distant second from possibly giving someone pause to consider not doing this and maybe saving someone unnecesary harm. If one crash is averted it is well worth. Nonetheless, in response to your thanks....your very welcome.
Razorecko 01-28-2007, 11:30 PM lol , somebody close this thread down.
HulkSmash 01-29-2007, 02:10 AM CC, I assume from your statements that you never speed, change lanes without signaling, change radio stations or the volume (except via the steering wheel controls). You certainly have never used your cell phone while driving and I'm sure you have your entire phone book programmed into the hands free. You of course would not ever take the wrapper off of a stick of chewing gum while driving. I know that wasn't you drinking a cup of coffee while driving or eating those tasty McDonalds french fries. The sun might come out, so I know you put your glasses on in advance, just so you wouldn’t have to take you hands off the wheel later. Gosh, it’s getting warm in here, but I know you wouldn’t adjust the climate controls until you pull over, because that would involve both looking down and taking a hand off the wheel . Safety first!
This is a slippery slope you’ve started down. All of these activities involve some degree of distraction. At what point does a distraction become too dangerous? All of the things I mentioned involve deciding to place others at some degree of risk. Are you to say with a straight face that you do not engage in any of these activities, or in any of the thousand of other things that will invariably reduce your level of driving concentration below 100%? If so, feel free to remain on your self righteous soap box. Otherwise, maybe you should recognize that it’s more than a little hypocritical to accuse other people of endangering their fellow man when you yourself do that very thing. The simple fact of the matter is that we all make choices every day that may ultimately endanger others. Clearly some of the things I mentioned before do not involve the same level of distraction as programming the navigation while driving, but they are distracting never the less. My point is this, what is reasonably safe for me, may not be safe for you. If you feel that programming the navigation while moving is simply to dangerous for you, then clearly this modification is not something you should install, and I applaud your ability to recognize your limitations. Please however, do not make this decision for me because you feel I’m too morally weak to decide this for myself and it’s up to you to protect society.
AlexT 01-29-2007, 04:16 AM Hulk,
You make great points. Unfortunately, very rarely during 6 pages of posts on this topic has CC actually addressed the issues that you and others raise. Instead, he'll come back and we'll see these preachy responses.
Alex
ResumeSpeed 01-29-2007, 04:26 AM Hulk, outstanding reply, you summed it up perfectly. In addition, CC still fails to reconize that for many who have had the hack done, only the passenger utilizes it, making it a 0% distraction for the driver.
Hulk,
You make great points. Unfortunately, very rarely during 6 pages of posts on this topic has CC actually addressed the issues that you and others raise. Instead, he'll come back and we'll see these preachy responses.
Alex
Well.....was going to stay out of this whole thread, no flaming, no name calling etc.....But.....Alex, Hulk, Resume, you all have made many excellent points.........specific in nature and relevant to real time situations and life in general.......
Been down this road with CC before, and nothing has changed...same old, same old. You know what they say though.......opinions are like ****oles and we all have one.........Just mho, but CC is the biggest opinion I've seen in a long time. Jeez............
omegaman 01-29-2007, 09:07 AM Been down this road with CC before, and nothing has changed...same old, same old. You know what they say though.......opinions are like ****oles and we all have one.........Just mho, but CC is the biggest opinion I've seen in a long time. Jeez............
Exactly - guys, stay out of any type of argument with CCBatson - he's a self-righteous safety freak that claims he doesn't speed or do anything dangerous. The only threads he's posted in have been re: front seat DVD and this nav thread (maybe a few other random posts but those are rare) - and in both of those he's flamed everybody about their opinions. Any sort of logic is lost on him because he's perfect and everybody else is a mass murderer behind the wheel. Seriously, for your own sanity, stay away from him. He adds nothing to the discussion except name calling and accusations.
HoustonSRT-8 01-29-2007, 09:27 AM I really begin to wonder what he hopes to accomplish with his heated arguments. Does he really think he's going to sway anyone with his holier-than-thou attitude? I'm willing to bet that if someone is looking into these mods, they've already thought about the consequences and being yelled at by a self-imposed parent figure isn't going to change someone's mind. Jeez.
Tom C 01-29-2007, 10:34 AM I find it comical that there was an accusation of "breaking the law". I don't believe a Federal law was passed banning in motion navigation and I don't believe anyone has provided evidence of that. Car manufacturers may have gone this route to protect themselves from our litigious society. This is true for car dealerships retro-fitting xenon headlights...they don't want to be liable for misaligned beams blinding another vehicle.
So how is having my co-pilot inputting the Nav selections breaking the law...or endangering people's lives? The self-righteous post predisposes the actions of people who would modify their Nav system. Guess what...my BMW had in motion Nav selections...my soon to be ex-wife's BMW has in motion Nav, my Audi had in motion Nav. I can't believe I didn't end up in the ICU living so dangerously. Could it possibly be that when I did use it while driving...I actually did it when the road was straight and clear....I know difficult for someone to imagine ... responsible in motion Nav use. Then again, I am probably the only one... ever... to practice that sort of reasonable use.:rolleyes:
I personally won't change the Nav system to do in motion....but I think it is annoying and have nothing against anyone who wants to customize it's use.
Tom
omegaman 01-29-2007, 12:07 PM In case anybody wanted any insight into CCBatson's twisted reality (and apparent inability to function in polite society), read on:
http://www.cherokeesrt8.com/forums/showthread.php?t=875
Tom C 01-29-2007, 12:46 PM Wow...that does shed some light. Someone apparently is the ultimate arbiter of what is safe...who is intelligent and how people will use their Nav system.
Tom
OurZoo 01-29-2007, 01:09 PM Can I get that 15 minutes of my life back?
Puhhhhlease!!!!!!!!!!! lol
HEMEEE 01-29-2007, 03:10 PM For those who have asked, the IGNORE feature can be accessed through the target's user profile next to any of his/her posts.
I would highly recommend it to those who cannot resist being baited into an argument at the expense of the original poster's thread topic.
1- click the username
2- select 'view user profile' from the dropdown menu
3- on the red bar just below the username, click 'add (username) to your Ignore List'
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v615/HEMEEE/Forum%20Graphics/thread_direction-1.gif
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