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mexicanowed
01-17-2009, 02:32 PM
Does anyone have sever panic attacks or do you know someone with it.What is your treatment pills,yoga ect...Did you change live style or are you still dealing with it?:(

kokanee13
01-17-2009, 02:35 PM
My wife has them. She uses lorazepam. Normally when I take the kid sledding, or out to the strip! HA

mexicanowed
01-17-2009, 02:37 PM
All ready tried them,they are a quick fix only.Glad they are helping your wife.

kokanee13
01-17-2009, 02:38 PM
Maybe a life change for you eh?? J/K

mexicanowed
01-17-2009, 02:47 PM
All ready closed 1/2 my buiness and food change.Had then for 4 years now and docters have not found a cure.Going to Doctor on Monday for scatscan,blood ect...Really hard to enjoy life with this problem.

Jpeyatt
01-17-2009, 02:49 PM
Wow... Hope everything works out for you man.

mexicanowed
01-17-2009, 02:54 PM
I never had anything like this before.I was hoping it would go away after 4 years.I still am looking for some help(new Doctor,any other type of methos).Thanks

WBSRT
01-17-2009, 02:55 PM
Hope You get this beat Mex, I really do.

Jpeyatt
01-17-2009, 02:57 PM
Its has to be pretty bad if a man shuts down half his business.. I wish you the best bro!!

kokanee13
01-17-2009, 02:58 PM
Good luck, It's a sh**ty problem to deal with. It's hard to watch someone get them bad.

mexicanowed
01-17-2009, 03:01 PM
Had to be rushed to emerg this morning at 2:15am.This medication im on is not working anymore its called Clonazepam its supposed to relax me.Need to have someone with me all the time ,shoot i even have one of my employees with me and that cost money.Still im trying to find a solution.I know this is a jeep site but you guys have been helpfull other than performance.

Jpeyatt
01-17-2009, 03:10 PM
I know this is a jeep site but you guys have been helpfull other than performance.[/QUOTE]

+1.. This is honestly the best forum i've ever been on.. Everyone here is usually hepful with anything you ask, weather it be about the jeep or talking about investing in stocks... This is one forum i visit on a daily basis. Sure, you have a couple a$$****s on ever forum. But, I've looked past that on this forum thanks to all the good peeps.. Thanks every1 for a great forum..Now that Rick is gone its going back to normal besides all the damn pop-ups:mad:

SoonToBeSRT
01-17-2009, 03:17 PM
Hey Mex, I know what your dealing with, I did a project on it for my psychology course. I made a little powerpoint, figured I could send it to you. IKn reality this seems to all be inside ones head rather than actual sickness, although they do have meds etc and it is classified as a disease. I know you will eventually be able to overcome it, just gotta be strong and stay confident you will one day soon gain back normal life. Just stay positive, keep all the positive thing you wake up for at the front of your mind and try to forget you have it man. Check out the powerpoint I made, just pm me your email and I'd be happy to send it. It just basically is short synopsis of the disease and gives some insight. I figure to overcome it, you should fully understand it, who knows maybe the cure is inside you, maybe has been all the time. Inner strength baby, go find it and may God be with you. :)

my email: af6790@gmail.com

mexicanowed
01-17-2009, 03:26 PM
Hey Mex, I know what your dealing with, I did a project on it for my psychology course. I made a little powerpoint, figured I could send it to you. IKn reality this seems to all be inside ones head rather than actual sickness, although they do have meds etc and it is classified as a disease. I know you will eventually be able to overcome it, just gotta be strong and stay confident you will one day soon gain back normal life. Just stay positive, keep all the positive thing you wake up for at the front of your mind and try to forget you have it man. Check out the powerpoint I made, just pm me your email and I'd be happy to send it. It just basically is short synopsis of the disease and gives some insight. I figure to overcome it, you should fully understand it, who knows maybe the cure is inside you, maybe has been all the time. Inner strength baby, go find it and may God be with you. :)

my email: af6790@gmail.com

My will power is what gets me in this panic attack mod.I love to drive and just get in my car and family and off we go,it doesnt matter where.But all that is taken away.I feel that its in my head not my gut.Anyway i will pm you now.

mexicanowed
01-17-2009, 03:29 PM
[QUOTE=mexicanowed;335751]My will power is what gets me in this panic attack mod.I love to drive and just get in my car and family and off we go,it doesnt matter where.But all that is taken away.I feel that its in my head not my gut.Anyway my e-mail is 060gon@gmail.com:)

SRT-MANA
01-17-2009, 03:49 PM
My oldest brother had it for like 3-4 months....being 40 plus he thought it was a heart attack! & racked up like 15k in medical bills & ambulance ride...thats what made him quit smoking & changing his life style....its like impossiable to get him mad now! hes like the old wise man now...even when I'm pissed @ something & I try to tell him, He's like Mr. anti stress! almost like a severe pot head! but he dont do that stuff...:)

mexicanowed
01-17-2009, 03:58 PM
That so funny because all my family,friends and employees call me Mr.Phil.I know exactly what hes talking about.Hes someone totally different.Can you say that you love him more and respect him.

DESRT8
01-17-2009, 04:06 PM
I know that stress combined with lack of sleep, caffiene or other stimulants such as nicotine and alcohol use (usually the next day) don't help. Hang in there-you have to look for any triggers and realize that you are going to be okay whever an attack starts before you can start to overcome this issue. Good luck-I've been there before.

mexicanowed
01-17-2009, 04:11 PM
I know that stress combined with lack of sleep, caffiene or other stimulants such as nicotine and alcohol use (usually the next day) don't help. Hang in there-you have to look for any triggers and realize that you are going to be okay whever an attack starts before you can start to overcome this issue. Good luck-I've been there before.

We all deal with stress you cant hide from it.The bottom line is that after 4 years with this problem it takes a toll on me.Still looking for some different help.Thanks

Purevl2
01-17-2009, 05:46 PM
I used to get mild ones. I found medications didn't do anything. I needed a lifestyle change. No going out, quit smoking, cut down on caffeine, and learn how to breath. Oh yeah, and surround yourself with people you love and that LOVE YOU.

Looks like you're taking the first step--it's usually hard for guys to admit this, people usually just classify you as a *****, which really sucks.

I'm rooting for ya', man.

BTLFED
01-17-2009, 05:49 PM
D, Im sure you will get it under control. Im not a advocate for drug use but I use to work with a guy who would work have panic attacks. The Doctors prescribed him meds but he didnt like them because he was a zombie and always sleepy. He would instead smoke a little grass and he said he was relaxed and felt better. We always made fun of him for this but he swears it works.

mexicanowed
01-17-2009, 06:21 PM
Im trying accupuncture right now,cant tell if its working,hes also ask me to take Quantum Adrenal Complex.I feel that this pill has given me more reason for panice(energy).I would rather feel like a zombie than wired 24hrs a day.My hole live has changed feelings,anger,being scared ect...The smoking grass issue may be inappropriate,but a few people that i know that have this disorder are useing it and they are functioning.Iv never did drugs or drank (beer ect...)Im 38 years old and feel im losing this battle.The weed smoking will be my last resort,i cant even imagine what that feels like no fun intended.Thank you all for you feed back.

Harrison@Stage6
01-17-2009, 07:07 PM
D, Im sure you will get it under control. Im not a advocate for drug use but I use to work with a guy who would work have panic attacks. The Doctors prescribed him meds but he didnt like them because he was a zombie and always sleepy. He would instead smoke a little grass and he said he was relaxed and felt better. We always made fun of him for this but he swears it works.

You beat me to it. Weed can in some cases, be a great medication. Over the years, I've had 3 friends parents die from cancer. While going through Kemo, it took a tool on them. We gave them some weed and it made their quality of life better. Kinda funny though because these were the parents that used to rage at us for burning and tell every other parent what a bad influence we were. Sadly, they all lost their fight though, but it helped them eat and chill them out. Good luck Mex.... I really hope you get this under control. It sucks living in a "cage" so to speak. Good luck bro.....

1BAMFR
01-17-2009, 07:14 PM
My brother and suffered from panic disorder for almost a year(somewhat mild)......It was weird that we were having the same symptoms at the exact same time. We popped Xanax pretty frequently and all just went away.

Weird question....Do you "work out"? Go to gym? Do alot of Cardio exercise?

QBNKID
01-17-2009, 07:22 PM
Hello Mexicanowed,
This is QBNKID's wife and i am actually writing to you because i think it might help in some way to know that this is a disorder that affects lots of people including myself. I had the most scary episode in 2004 during my internship and was very stressed out, and that actually sent me to the ER thinking i was having a heart attack or something...and i know how scary this is.
You feel like an unrealistic fear is taking over and you are no longer in control..and you try to suppress it or make it go away...but you just don't know how. To make the story short, i was on medication..."NO ILLEGAL DRUGS" :p for awhile...until last October. I was at work and this time while on the internet...i was not looking for a miracle cure or anything like and I happen to see this link on msn "http://www.panicaway.com/index1.htm?hop=mboudet3"...and sent the link to my hubbie to read about that, and he actually read it to my surprise...;) since it was not JEEP SRT8 related!!!!!
Well...he actually bought the book for me and his words..."You got nothing to loose!!!"... after reading the first few pages i felt some sort of relieve and I was determine to give it a try...and try to approach these episodes in a different way now...
I still have had a few after that...but i feel more in control....this is also new to me...but i will give this stubborn disorder a fight....and i know I'll win :cool:
Mario and I really hope this helps you...

fergcougar
01-17-2009, 07:34 PM
I was in the same boat. Emergency room like 10 times. Thought I was dying! I had it for 7 years but it's finallly going away due to lifestyle change. No smoking no drinking and hanging out with people who love you really help. I know it's a terrible feeling but the main thing that helps me is knowing that no one has ever died from a panic attack and it will be ok!

mexicanowed
01-17-2009, 10:17 PM
I actually feel a little relaxed reading all your comments.I definately im interested in all your help.Im glad that you all open up your personal lives with me to try and help,Thank you all very much.

mexicanowed
01-17-2009, 10:24 PM
Hello Mexicanowed,
This is QBNKID's wife and i am actually writing to you because i think it might help in some way to know that this is a disorder that affects lots of people including myself. I had the most scary episode in 2004 during my internship and was very stressed out, and that actually sent me to the ER thinking i was having a heart attack or something...and i know how scary this is.
You feel like an unrealistic fear is taking over and you are no longer in control..and you try to suppress it or make it go away...but you just don't know how. To make the story short, i was on medication..."NO ILLEGAL DRUGS" :p for awhile...until last October. I was at work and this time while on the internet...i was not looking for a miracle cure or anything like and I happen to see this link on msn "http://www.panicaway.com/index1.htm?hop=mboudet3"...and sent the link to my hubbie to read about that, and he actually read it to my surprise...;) since it was not JEEP SRT8 related!!!!!
Well...he actually bought the book for me and his words..."You got nothing to loose!!!"... after reading the first few pages i felt some sort of relieve and I was determine to give it a try...and try to approach these episodes in a different way now...
I still have had a few after that...but i feel more in control....this is also new to me...but i will give this stubborn disorder a fight....and i know I'll win :cool:
Mario and I really hope this helps you...

Its funny how some people are afraid to adment that they have this disorder.Im going to look at this and let you know what i think.Thank you very much and i pray for both of us.

Harrison@Stage6
01-17-2009, 10:26 PM
No problem bro.... we are all Jeep lovers and we take care of each other!:ladysman::cheers::kiss::sex:

mexicanowed
01-17-2009, 10:30 PM
Who ever would off thought that thiers still human beings out thier.

mexicanowed
01-18-2009, 10:33 AM
Well that is actually true,for me its a little differnent i ran our family business which turned into a fiasco.I invested a lot of money to expand the business but everyone wanted to make as much as i was.Well to make that story short i put myself in a position and (said no one is helping financially,they in return said we are the labors)if you can understand it went no where.To make matters worse my wife was diganose with breast cancer at the age of 32 in May of 2004 thats when everything hit the fan.

Str8Srt8
01-18-2009, 11:18 AM
There are anxiety support groups out there. I'm sure there's a lot of tribal knowledge out there that it hard to find on-line or in books.

http://www.anxietypanic.com/supportgroups.html

Good luck.

mortimer
01-18-2009, 11:45 AM
Hey Mex,

I feel what you're going through brother, I myself started having bad panic attacks about a year and a half ago. I would start feeling my heart pounding in my chest, and instantly think I was having a heart attack, next thing you know I would get short of breath, sometimes dizzy, and panicky as hell. The worst part is a EXTREME and UNNATURAL fear that I was about to die RIGHT THAT VERY SECOND. It's awful. I have a rotator cuff problem in my left shoulder that causes numbness/pain in my left arm sometimes, and that pain during a panick attack would only intensify my reasoning that I was having a heart attack. They mostly would happen when I lied in bed at night to sleep, but sometimes when I was sitting at my desk working, or walking through the grocery store. Sometimes I felt like I didn't want to be alone because I was afraid I'd have one, and wanted someone there to call 911.

It was affecting me a great deal because I wouldn't sleep hardly at all at night, it was almost as if lying in bed would trigger the attack. Right before bed I would start thinking about "oh man, I hope that doesn't happen again tonight" and when I lied down, sure as $hit it would. I'd lay there forever it seemed wondering if I should call 911, was this "the big one" that would kill me, oh $hit oh $hit I'm about to die . . . etc. I made a few trips to the ER. At the time I was just starting my business and was inundated with work, sometimes 16-18 hours a day. The docs told me to stop living off of cigarettes, coffee and 2 hours of sleep a night.

I'm nearly over it now, I will still get "anxiety" sometimes but I've learned to realize it was all in my head, I don't have heart problems, and people don't just start having chest pain and die on the spot like I was fearing I would. At first I was convinced I had a heart problem. Why else would I have chest pain, get dizzy at the same time?

For me, what relieved me the most was having some tests done to rule out any physical problem. I went to a cardiologist, ran on a treadmill with all kindsa crap hooked up to me, they did a sonogram of my heart before (at resting heartrate) and after (at 180bpm) and everything looked OK. Also did EKG's and wore a holter (?) monitor for 24 hrs. The cardiologist was a great help as he did alot to convince me that my heart was in GREAT shape and any symptoms I was having were not heart related. That alone was a great relief to me, and anytime I started having "attacks" it helped to convince myself that I was not on death's doorstep, not about to die that second. He told me if these "episodes" were heart-related I'd be dead by now, people don't just have 30 or 40 heart attacks at home and live through it.

Since mine tended to happen more frequently at night I did a sleep study as well. They stuck about 75 wires on me and had me spend the night at the sleep center to monitor my heartrate, breathing, all that jazz while I'm asleep. No problems there, and I did not have a panic attack that night. In fact, it was the best I'd slept in ages. I think all that medical junk hooked up put my mind at ease that if anything happened, someone would know.

But, I was still having chest pain sometimes, and it was REAL, and as you're aware I'm sure, it's easy to say "This is all in my head, I'm in great health" when you're not having a panic attack, but a little harder to convince yourself when it's actually happening. Sometimes the pain would last all day. And the pain in my left arm just did further to intensify my thoughts that I was still having a heart problem (left arm hurts = sure fire sign that you're having a heart attack).

So, I went to an orthopedist and had him look at my shoulder. "Man, your shoulders are really messed up" were his exact words. Arthritis and my rotator cuffs are damaged. He said it's not uncommon for this to cause pain in the sternum. The the clavicle (collar bone) is connected to the shoulder, and if shoulder rotation is rough and clunky that can cause inflammation where the other side of the clavicle connects to your sternum.

I started taking ibuprofin pretty regularly and that helped with the chest pain. Turns out he was right, the chest pain did seem to follow along with anytime I used my arms alot, particularly doing anything that required me putting my arms over my head frequently (like hanging new crown molding in the TV room).

For me, that pretty much put it to bed. The docs were all a GREAT help in putting my mind at east that I didn't have a physical health problem, and gave me the ability to realize that these episodes of panicking fear that I was about to die were all in my head. Especially my family doctor, who suggested all the tests to begin with. It wasn't instantaneous, I still had panic attacks, but I was able to tell myself "This isn't real, I'm just stressed out, I'm not having a heart problem..." and they would subside much faster than before.

It helped alot to keep myself mentally prepared even when I wasn't having a panic attack. Even when I was feeling great, not anxious or panicky at all, I'd keep myself prepared for the next one, reminding myself that my heart is fine, my chest pain is nothing serious, etc.

Anyway, sorry for the long post brother, just thought I would share my story, best of luck to you!

mortimer
01-18-2009, 11:49 AM
Oh, and on a side note, there's some herb that's found in alot of energy drinks that has been linked to causing anxiety attacks, so if you drink alot of Red Bull or Rooster Booster, stop. I'll dig around a bit and see if I can find it. It's called Yohimbe or something.

SRT8IG
01-18-2009, 12:05 PM
Hey there,

Just spoke to my wife, she's an internist. She is suggesting Klonopin Wafers. It is a derivative of Clonazepan, but has immediate release. As PA begins, put the tablet under the tongue and you'll feel relief within few minutes. Start with 0.5mg.
Its controlled substance though, you'll need the prescription. She says it worked very well for her patients

Hope that helps.

Good luck!

a990dna
01-18-2009, 12:15 PM
FYI -
I came across this while looking at Barclay Theater events.

It's free, not sure how close you are to UCI, Irvine...

http://www.thebarclay.org/custom/events/event10.asp?eventID=1191

Hope things get better for you soon.. dealing with health problems and family business issues can be very stressful. I have a good friend that hasn't talked to his elderly mother for 8-10 years. She hired an attorney and evicted him from the family-owned commercial building and then decided to exclude him from the Trust.

This was all over who had the controlling interest in a well-established family business his late father built in the 60s. Shortly after acquiring control, he fired his sister and brother... needless to say his mother was furious and ultimately showed him who had the power since she owned most of the assets.

I'm not sure wanting control was worth it in the end...

Good luck as you work through all this...

mexicanowed
01-18-2009, 02:46 PM
Hey Mex,

I feel what you're going through brother, I myself started having bad panic attacks about a year and a half ago. I would start feeling my heart pounding in my chest, and instantly think I was having a heart attack, next thing you know I would get short of breath, sometimes dizzy, and panicky as hell. The worst part is a EXTREME and UNNATURAL fear that I was about to die RIGHT THAT VERY SECOND. It's awful. I have a rotator cuff problem in my left shoulder that causes numbness/pain in my left arm sometimes, and that pain during a panick attack would only intensify my reasoning that I was having a heart attack. They mostly would happen when I lied in bed at night to sleep, but sometimes when I was sitting at my desk working, or walking through the grocery store. Sometimes I felt like I didn't want to be alone because I was afraid I'd have one, and wanted someone there to call 911.

It was affecting me a great deal because I wouldn't sleep hardly at all at night, it was almost as if lying in bed would trigger the attack. Right before bed I would start thinking about "oh man, I hope that doesn't happen again tonight" and when I lied down, sure as it would. I'd lay there forever it seemed wondering if I should call 911, was this "the big one" that would kill me, oh oh I'm about to die . . . etc. I made a few trips to the ER. At the time I was just starting my business and was inundated with work, sometimes 16-18 hours a day. The docs told me to stop living off of cigarettes, coffee and 2 hours of sleep a night.

I'm nearly over it now, I will still get "anxiety" sometimes but I've learned to realize it was all in my head, I don't have heart problems, and people don't just start having chest pain and die on the spot like I was fearing I would. At first I was convinced I had a heart problem. Why else would I have chest pain, get dizzy at the same time?

For me, what relieved me the most was having some tests done to rule out any physical problem. I went to a cardiologist, ran on a treadmill with all kindsa crap hooked up to me, they did a sonogram of my heart before (at resting heartrate) and after (at 180bpm) and everything looked OK. Also did EKG's and wore a holter (?) monitor for 24 hrs. The cardiologist was a great help as he did alot to convince me that my heart was in GREAT shape and any symptoms I was having were not heart related. That alone was a great relief to me, and anytime I started having "attacks" it helped to convince myself that I was not on death's doorstep, not about to die that second. He told me if these "episodes" were heart-related I'd be dead by now, people don't just have 30 or 40 heart attacks at home and live through it.

Since mine tended to happen more frequently at night I did a sleep study as well. They stuck about 75 wires on me and had me spend the night at the sleep center to monitor my heartrate, breathing, all that jazz while I'm asleep. No problems there, and I did not have a panic attack that night. In fact, it was the best I'd slept in ages. I think all that medical junk hooked up put my mind at ease that if anything happened, someone would know.

But, I was still having chest pain sometimes, and it was REAL, and as you're aware I'm sure, it's easy to say "This is all in my head, I'm in great health" when you're not having a panic attack, but a little harder to convince yourself when it's actually happening. Sometimes the pain would last all day. And the pain in my left arm just did further to intensify my thoughts that I was still having a heart problem (left arm hurts = sure fire sign that you're having a heart attack).

So, I went to an orthopedist and had him look at my shoulder. "Man, your shoulders are really messed up" were his exact words. Arthritis and my rotator cuffs are damaged. He said it's not uncommon for this to cause pain in the sternum. The the clavicle (collar bone) is connected to the shoulder, and if shoulder rotation is rough and clunky that can cause inflammation where the other side of the clavicle connects to your sternum.

I started taking ibuprofin pretty regularly and that helped with the chest pain. Turns out he was right, the chest pain did seem to follow along with anytime I used my arms alot, particularly doing anything that required me putting my arms over my head frequently (like hanging new crown molding in the TV room).

For me, that pretty much put it to bed. The docs were all a GREAT help in putting my mind at east that I didn't have a physical health problem, and gave me the ability to realize that these episodes of panicking fear that I was about to die were all in my head. Especially my family doctor, who suggested all the tests to begin with. It wasn't instantaneous, I still had panic attacks, but I was able to tell myself "This isn't real, I'm just stressed out, I'm not having a heart problem..." and they would subside much faster than before.

It helped alot to keep myself mentally prepared even when I wasn't having a panic attack. Even when I was feeling great, not anxious or panicky at all, I'd keep myself prepared for the next one, reminding myself that my heart is fine, my chest pain is nothing serious, etc.

Anyway, sorry for the long post brother, just thought I would share my story, best of luck to you!

All of your symptoms are exactly what i have.Im very happy for you that you can deal with your panic disorder.Its seems that most of you are convincing yourselfs along with your Doctors that we have the mind control.Its sad to say but the true is it feels reallllllyyyyy good to me when someone that knows more about our or my problem tells me that im not going to DIE.Im going to my Doctor tommorow and do all the testing that they should of done 4 years ago,really pissed.Anyway did a little test on myself this morning,got on the trendmill and ran for 20mins,man that brought on a FULL PANIC ATTACK but my wife said its ok your body needs to ajust.After about 10 mins i started to calm down,but still it was exactly how you described.Anyway it felt good and went away.My wife is telling me to tell you all that since i was a kid im a very active,sport(soccer) physical hands on worker.Regadless i havent play semi pro ball for at least 6 years.Im going to start working out every day running (no weights).Thank you for your story you may not think it helps me but you have no idea.Your storys keep it off my mine.Thank you

mexicanowed
01-18-2009, 02:55 PM
Hey there,

Just spoke to my wife, she's an internist. She is suggesting Klonopin Wafers. It is a derivative of Clonazepan, but has immediate release. As PA begins, put the tablet under the tongue and you'll feel relief within few minutes. Start with 0.5mg.
Its controlled substance though, you'll need the prescription. She says it worked very well for her patients

Hope that helps.

Good luck!

My doctor is very confused and will probably let me take it,thank you.The side affect that im having with the clonazepam is that i cant remember thinks its really bad,even affects my spelling and writing dont laugh:(.

mexicanowed
01-18-2009, 03:02 PM
FYI -
I came across this while looking at Barclay Theater events.

It's free, not sure how close you are to UCI, Irvine...

http://www.thebarclay.org/custom/events/event10.asp?eventID=1191

Hope things get better for you soon.. dealing with health problems and family business issues can be very stressful. I have a good friend that hasn't talked to his elderly mother for 8-10 years. She hired an attorney and evicted him from the family-owned commercial building and then decided to exclude him from the Trust.

This was all over who had the controlling interest in a well-established family business his late father built in the 60s. Shortly after acquiring control, he fired his sister and brother... needless to say his mother was furious and ultimately showed him who had the power since she owned most of the assets.

I'm not sure wanting control was worth it in the end...

Good luck as you work through all this...

I actually left my family buisness and open my own,its been about 1 1/2 years now.That has been the best move i've done for myself and my own family.Money is not as good but it will pick up when i get better.Our Entire family has gon thier own way which was better for all of us,so now we as a family can talk without buisness.

QBNKID
01-18-2009, 03:53 PM
Hey Mex,

I feel what you're going through brother, I myself started having bad panic attacks about a year and a half ago. I would start feeling my heart pounding in my chest, and instantly think I was having a heart attack, next thing you know I would get short of breath, sometimes dizzy, and panicky as hell. The worst part is a EXTREME and UNNATURAL fear that I was about to die RIGHT THAT VERY SECOND. It's awful. I have a rotator cuff problem in my left shoulder that causes numbness/pain in my left arm sometimes, and that pain during a panick attack would only intensify my reasoning that I was having a heart attack. They mostly would happen when I lied in bed at night to sleep, but sometimes when I was sitting at my desk working, or walking through the grocery store. Sometimes I felt like I didn't want to be alone because I was afraid I'd have one, and wanted someone there to call 911.

It was affecting me a great deal because I wouldn't sleep hardly at all at night, it was almost as if lying in bed would trigger the attack. Right before bed I would start thinking about "oh man, I hope that doesn't happen again tonight" and when I lied down, sure as it would. I'd lay there forever it seemed wondering if I should call 911, was this "the big one" that would kill me, oh oh I'm about to die . . . etc. I made a few trips to the ER. At the time I was just starting my business and was inundated with work, sometimes 16-18 hours a day. The docs told me to stop living off of cigarettes, coffee and 2 hours of sleep a night.

I'm nearly over it now, I will still get "anxiety" sometimes but I've learned to realize it was all in my head, I don't have heart problems, and people don't just start having chest pain and die on the spot like I was fearing I would. At first I was convinced I had a heart problem. Why else would I have chest pain, get dizzy at the same time?

For me, what relieved me the most was having some tests done to rule out any physical problem. I went to a cardiologist, ran on a treadmill with all kindsa crap hooked up to me, they did a sonogram of my heart before (at resting heartrate) and after (at 180bpm) and everything looked OK. Also did EKG's and wore a holter (?) monitor for 24 hrs. The cardiologist was a great help as he did alot to convince me that my heart was in GREAT shape and any symptoms I was having were not heart related. That alone was a great relief to me, and anytime I started having "attacks" it helped to convince myself that I was not on death's doorstep, not about to die that second. He told me if these "episodes" were heart-related I'd be dead by now, people don't just have 30 or 40 heart attacks at home and live through it.

Since mine tended to happen more frequently at night I did a sleep study as well. They stuck about 75 wires on me and had me spend the night at the sleep center to monitor my heartrate, breathing, all that jazz while I'm asleep. No problems there, and I did not have a panic attack that night. In fact, it was the best I'd slept in ages. I think all that medical junk hooked up put my mind at ease that if anything happened, someone would know.

But, I was still having chest pain sometimes, and it was REAL, and as you're aware I'm sure, it's easy to say "This is all in my head, I'm in great health" when you're not having a panic attack, but a little harder to convince yourself when it's actually happening. Sometimes the pain would last all day. And the pain in my left arm just did further to intensify my thoughts that I was still having a heart problem (left arm hurts = sure fire sign that you're having a heart attack).

So, I went to an orthopedist and had him look at my shoulder. "Man, your shoulders are really messed up" were his exact words. Arthritis and my rotator cuffs are damaged. He said it's not uncommon for this to cause pain in the sternum. The the clavicle (collar bone) is connected to the shoulder, and if shoulder rotation is rough and clunky that can cause inflammation where the other side of the clavicle connects to your sternum.

I started taking ibuprofin pretty regularly and that helped with the chest pain. Turns out he was right, the chest pain did seem to follow along with anytime I used my arms alot, particularly doing anything that required me putting my arms over my head frequently (like hanging new crown molding in the TV room).

For me, that pretty much put it to bed. The docs were all a GREAT help in putting my mind at east that I didn't have a physical health problem, and gave me the ability to realize that these episodes of panicking fear that I was about to die were all in my head. Especially my family doctor, who suggested all the tests to begin with. It wasn't instantaneous, I still had panic attacks, but I was able to tell myself "This isn't real, I'm just stressed out, I'm not having a heart problem..." and they would subside much faster than before.

It helped alot to keep myself mentally prepared even when I wasn't having a panic attack. Even when I was feeling great, not anxious or panicky at all, I'd keep myself prepared for the next one, reminding myself that my heart is fine, my chest pain is nothing serious, etc.

Anyway, sorry for the long post brother, just thought I would share my story, best of luck to you!

Mortimer, my wife and I just finished reading your story also and she kept telling me "how true!" those were the same exact symptoms she had.
We both laugh reading it, it was really funny the way you wrote it :).

We wish you'll continue controlling it. And yes I believe you can do it without medication as my wife is doing.

BTW, when she went to the ER that one time and I got there a few minutes later, I found her on a stretcher and they were going to do some blood work on her, as they were getting the blood out and I saw that I started feeling dizzy, next thing I remember I was on a stretcher next to her (to make things worst for her), yeah I had fainted :o, and my wife was all worried and the doctors telling her, it's ok he's fine... I was all confused at first when I woke up, I didn't know if I was on the ER for me or for my wife :D. And yes, I smacked my head on the floor when I fell lol.

All of your symptoms are exactly what i have.Im very happy for you that you can deal with your panic disorder.Its seems that most of you are convincing yourselfs along with your Doctors that we have the mind control.Its sad to say but the true is it feels reallllllyyyyy good to me when someone that knows more about our or my problem tells me that im not going to DIE.Im going to my Doctor tommorow and do all the testing that they should of done 4 years ago,really pissed.Anyway did a little test on myself this morning,got on the trendmill and ran for 20mins,man that brought on a FULL PANIC ATTACK but my wife said its ok your body needs to ajust.After about 10 mins i started to calm down,but still it was exactly how you described.Anyway it felt good and went away.My wife is telling me to tell you all that since i was a kid im a very active,sport(soccer) physical hands on worker.Regadless i havent play semi pro ball for at least 6 years.Im going to start working out every day running (no weights).Thank you for your story you may not think it helps me but you have no idea.Your storys keep it off my mine.Thank youBro, I really hope you get it under control as my wife has been doing, I hope her story also helps you out and definitely check out that link she posted.
I can tell you that is incredible the change that my wife has had after she stopped with the medication completely and is following the instructions of that book, night and day bro, she's extremely happy that she doesn't have to take more medication, I'm very happy as well. I can really tell, even thou she has a symptom once in a while she gets rid of it right away, she's learning to deal with that and have control of it on her own.

Trust me you can overcome this with no medication, no yoga, no acupuncture and yes... no weed either :D.
Like I told my wife... you got nothing to loose.

BTW, when I told her about this thread she immediately said "I have to reply on that thread", I was shocked because even thou she reads some of the threads with me at night she has never posted on the forum.

Good luck bro!

mexicanowed
01-18-2009, 04:57 PM
I cant stop laughing and im sorry but that story reminds me when my wife went in for surgery to remove her tumer (cancer) i felt faint because i couldnt do anything to help her and i just wanted to take her pain away.My wife also never reads these threasd but she finds it intersting that thiers so many of you that have this disorder.BTW ive already ordered the book,i will try my best to inform all of you of my progress thank you.By the way my real username is 060gone.Whats really sucks is that being mexican i cant eat any more of the good food.lol

aplatero1984
01-18-2009, 05:14 PM
No problem bro.... we are all Jeep lovers and we take care of each other!:ladysman::cheers::kiss::sex:
even me HArrison?!:D
Who ever would off thought that thiers still human beings out thier.

there are def still good people out there in the world. And about 85% of them are here in this FORUM!:D

mexicanowed
01-18-2009, 05:18 PM
This forum is definatly united.

YoungMedic23
01-18-2009, 05:26 PM
Danny i hope you can find a solution to the attacks soon brother. You know i have your back forever! Let me know if i can do anything to help as you know you can call me ANYTIME!!!

mexicanowed
01-18-2009, 06:05 PM
thanks paul,i didnt tell you because being 24 years old i had doubts,but from the bottom of my heart your a true friend.You are very compationate and very grafeful.Maybe if i can get through this we can hit the track,congraulations you have a one of a kind jeep and dont take it for granted.I still can function its just difficult,remember i only had this four 4 years.When i finish my jeep i will definetly call on you for help,i hope i have helped you in your dream com true.CONGR
AULATIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jstaylor
01-18-2009, 06:37 PM
Look into a low dosage of Lexapro. Worked wonders for me. I only very occasionally have a PA now and the severity is much less when they do occur.

HEMISFEAR
01-18-2009, 07:26 PM
If you check out physically, a vigorous exercise regimen will be tortuous at first but will improve everything over time. Eliminate any stimulants of course including caffeine and there is some evidence to suggest that a drug called Escitalopram (lexapro) does in fact help. My wife's cousin had them bad about 2 years ago. He's a home builder and was always under stress. Drank a lot of coffee and smoked cigarettes alot as well. Overweight by at least 40-50 lbs...changed his lifestyle, and he hasn't had a panic attack in some time. Even look for an online support group in the mean time, because you'll see people out there are waaaaaaaaaaaaaayyy worse than you and, although sad, you'll know that everyone can share their own experiences with you. I hope you get the help you need and it finally works.

mexicanowed
01-18-2009, 08:47 PM
Your right about working out at first it feels like ****,but it will take time for my body and mine to ajust.Already tried lexapro it makes me sleepy.Thanks alot for you input.

SoonToBeSRT
01-18-2009, 09:06 PM
Yea I honestly cant help but say this, it sounds so odd but I think Harrison mentioned it, but smoking a little herb may honestly help in your case. I dont know if you could get a prescription or whatever, but you should definitely try it and see how it works for you and see what you can do. It may relieve symptoms for a little or maybe be a cure for you who knows, not saying you should smoke all day everyday, but it may be a temporary solution until you figure out how to deal with it and/or cure it. Good luck, and hey, a little green never hurt anyone haha ;) I dont promote it though nonetheless GL.

mexicanowed
01-18-2009, 09:42 PM
Its sound funny if you think about it,ive never tried or done drugs.It makes me feel a little aqward.**** if i cant find something it may be an option.

HEMISFEAR
01-19-2009, 06:20 AM
Just a word of warning that is really needed here. Like any other prescription drug with side effects that affect others in different ways, weed may help you but it 'could' also set off a huge panic attack if you've never tried it. It's potency will also come into play, but for many people, weed can make you feel a little paranoid/edgy before it chills you out. Like anything else, be careful with it...I'd hate to see you check in to emerg and have to tell the docs you were smoking some for panic attacks. I have 'absolutely' nothing against it's benefites/uses, but it's something I thought you should consider beforehand.

rumplemenz
01-19-2009, 06:40 AM
Its sound funny if you think about it,ive never tried or done drugs.It makes me feel a little aqward.**** if i cant find something it may be an option.

maybe this is your answer... not being sarcastic either...

being straight 24/7 for your entire life sometimes has negative effects... being sane and in your NORMAL state of mind may get to anyone after awhile... ! loosen up a little and dont feel awkward about it...

hope you the best...i have a family member who has this problem.. wouldnt wish it on my worst enemy... but get help b/c you shouldnt live with this.. there is help out there for this.. glad to hear you are trying to find answers

SRT8 4 J
01-19-2009, 09:04 AM
Just a word of warning that is really needed here. Like any other prescription drug with side effects that affect others in different ways, weed may help you but it 'could' also set off a huge panic attack if you've never tried it. It's potency will also come into play, but for many people, weed can make you feel a little paranoid/edgy before it chills you out. Like anything else, be careful with it...I'd hate to see you check in to emerg and have to tell the docs you were smoking some for panic attacks. I have 'absolutely' nothing against it's benefites/uses, but it's something I thought you should consider beforehand.

Very good point. I know first hand about that effect and that is why I don't do it anymore. Only did it like 3 times in my life. I hope the best for you. The only piece of advice I can give is try the best way to reduce the stress in your life. My girlfriend for a period of about 6 months was having small panic attacks-about one a week. She was under a tremendous amount of stress with her job, her ex, and kids along with some other family issues. If you don't find an outlet to relieve your stress and anxiety, then you have an attack. Try to do something for yourself that relaxes you the most. When I get really stressed, I hop in the JeeP and just go for a drive. I'm close to the countryside setting so I head for a scenic drive thru the hills and woods and then I'm better. All the best.....

jstaylor
01-19-2009, 03:23 PM
How long did you try Lexapro? It made me a zombie for about a week but after my body got used to it all was good. Been on it for a few years now with no problem.

mexicanowed
01-19-2009, 11:57 PM
Lexapro is the first pill that was perscribed to me,my wife and i believe that might of caused my first major panic attack,anyway took it for about 3 days.I was aready working 12 days 7 days a week,and playing soccer twice a week.Not to much resting.

FLACO
01-20-2009, 01:15 AM
Lexapro takes about 3-6 weeks to take effect. I took me at least that long, then we upped the dosage. I feel sooooooo much better now, and my life is getting back to normal. I haven't had coffee or hardly any caffeine in about 4 months. Not sure if that is helping me, but it doesn't hurt either.